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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => West Lothian (Linlithgowshire) => Topic started by: meggy1 on Wednesday 01 June 11 15:08 BST (UK)
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Hi All,
On tidying my Dad's attic, I came across this interesting book. If anyone would like me to look up any names, I'd be happy to do so. It covers the war years of 1939 - 1945 and lists surmames, initials, official numbers , which service, date of joining and addresses.
It also covers Blackness & District, as well as a list of the fallen.
Just thought it might be of interest to some of you out there!
Regards
Meggy1
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Hi Meggy,
could you check for Bells please.
Kris
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Any by the name of Rooney, Stanners or McMeeking?
Thanks!
AG
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Another resource for Bo'ness is The Scottish War Memorials Forum, see: http://warmemscot.s4.bizhat.com/viewtopic.php?t=2822&mforum=warmemscot
The above link should go straight to the Bo'ness page, which is listed under Falkirk District.
For other West Lothian Civic and 'other' memorials, see: http://warmemscot.s4.bizhat.com/viewtopic.php?t=522&mforum=warmemscot.
*Kris47
There are 6 WW1 and 3 WW2 Bells listed on Bo'ness Civic Memorial
*Alan
Rooney - 1 WW1, 0 WW2
Stanners, - 4 WW1, 1 WW2
McMeekin(g) - 0
Anne
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thanks for that Anne
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Hi Anne,
thanks for those links!
Meggy1
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Hi folks,
Thought I had replied to you with lists of names - where has it gone?
What have I done wrong?! ???
Will re do it later!
Meggy1
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Hi, Hope it works this time! Think I lost internet connection earlier.
In the List of the Fallen
BELL,DAVID BOWIE, 3 KINNEIL ROAD. NO.3063614 ROYAL SCOTS
BELL, JAMES, 24 MILLER PIT. NO.1094076 ROYAL ARTILLERY
bELL, ROBERT, 2 GRANGEMOUTH ROAD. NO CH/X108406 ROYAL MARINE COMMANDOS
In the Roll of Honour
There are 25 Bells and 14 Stanners (there's a lot of us!) Do you have any specific names?
Will give you the list if you don't!
There is McMEEKING, THOMAS A., 55 DEANFEILD CRESC., rOYAL MARINE COMMANDOS
NO.PO/X108567 JOINED , DEC. 1941
McMEEKING, WILLIAM (same address) R.E. NO. 1924115 JOINED, JAN. 1940
There are 8 ROONEYS, 5 from the same address 81 Linlithgow Road - BERNARD, GEORGE,HUGH,HUGH,and JAMES.
Let me know if you need all their details!
We have also ROONEY, JAMES, 2 ALEXANDER AVENUE,FALLSIDE. ROYAL SCOTS NO.3062444 JOINED SEP. 1939
ROONEY ROBERT, 1 SNAB LANE. A.C.C. NO.3194569 JOINED mAY1940
ROONEY, THOMAS, 38 DEANFIELD DRIVE. R.N. NO. JX/306314 JOINED DEC. 1941
Hope this is useful to you!
Regards
Meggy
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thanks for that Meggy, I don't have specific Bells at the moment.
Kris
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Anne - thanks very much!
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Meggy,
Fantastic stuff.
Tom McMeeking was my Great Uncle.
I can remember him sitting on the benches at the old Bo'ness Bus Station at Corbiehall smoking his pipe. A quiet unassuming man, my Granny's brother.
I only discovered that he was a Royal Marine Commando at his funeral. A real war hero, he fought on the beaches at Normandy.
I've been after his service number for a while, this is great news.
William was either his brother or his father. No ages mentioned?
Most of the Rooneys you mention are also relations, including my great grandfather Hugh Rooney.
Sorry to be a pain but it would be great to get the details of the rest of them.
It would be also really helpful if you could also transcribe the Stanners entries as well, if you have the time.
Thanks again.
AG
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Hi Alan,
Delighted to be able to help! The rest of the Rooneys (from 81 Linlithgow Road) are
BERNARD, 39TH L.A.A., R.A. NO.3052363 JOINED, JULY 1938
GEORGE McG., 5TH R.A.O.C. NO.10552405 JOINED JULY 1939
HUGH, Jun., 61ST A./T.K. Regt. NO. 1509729 JOINED JULY1939
HUGH, ROYAL SCOTS NO.3239724 JONED SEP. 1939
JAMES, ROYAL SCOTS NO.3054110 JOINED OCT. 1940
That's all the ROONEYS. No ages given unfortunately.
Can I send you the Stanners details through the week sometime? I'm not the fastest typist in the world, so need to allow time!!
Regards.
Meggy
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thanks for that Meggy, I don't have specific Bells at the moment.
Kris
Would you like the list anyway?
Meggy
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Yes please Meggy.
Kris
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Magic Meggy.
No rush with the Stanners.
Thanks again for doing this.
AG
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Yes please Meggy.
Kris
Here are the Bells. Both Bell and Stanners family are related to me, so this is really interesting!
BELL, A.G., BRIDGENESS CRES., R.N. NO P/JX252464 JOINED MARCH1941
BELL, ALEXANDER 51 PHILPINGSTONE LANE. R.A.M.C. NO. 7397695 JOINED AUG. 1941
BELL, ALEXANDER, 34 SOUTH PHILPINGSTONE LANE. R.E. NO.1986700 JOINED, APRIL 1939
BELL, CHARLES, 68 STEWART AVE., R.N. NO.C/KX597149 JOINED JULY 1943
BELL, CHARLES S., 72 PHILPINGSTONE RD., R.N. NO.P/KX178552 JONED MARCH 1943
BELL, DAVID, 2 GRANGEMOUTH ROAD. GENERAL SERVICE CORPS. NO. 14967145 JOINED APRIL 1945
BELL, FREDERICK, 15 DRYSDALE BUILDINGS. ROYAL TANK CORPS. NO.7905623 JOINED DEC. 1939
BELL, GEORGE, 15 DRYSDALE BUILDINGS. POINEER CORPS. NO. 3064369 JOINED SEP. 1940
BELL, GEORGE L., 10 RICHMOND TERR., R.A. NO.1430604 JOINED DEC. 1938
BELL, GRACE, 68 STEWART AVE., A.T.S. W/156474
BELL,GRACE L., 26 MARCHLANDS AVE. A.T.S. NO W/181725 JOINED AUGUST 1942
BELL, HELEN, 21 HOPETOUN TERR., A.T.S NO.W/156880 JOINED MAY 1942 (this is my relative - there are no doubt others!)
BELL, JAMES, 3 MAIN STREET. A.C.C. NO.14025561 JOINED APRIL 1945
BELL, JAMES, 47 CASTLELOAN. H.L.I. NO. 3059806 JOINED JAN. 1940
BELL, JAMES, 2 SNAB LANE. R.N. NO. C/SSX33388 JOINED MARCH 1940
BELL, J.I., 256 PARK VIEW. R.A.F. NO.1823618 JOINED JUNE 1943
BELL, J. M., 12 NEWTOWN R.A. NO.1547095 JOINED JAN. 1940
BELL, JOHN, 34 NEWTOWN STREET, BLACK WATCH, NO. 2761982 JOINED AUG. 1940
BELL, JOHN, 3 NEWTOWN STREET, ROYAL SCOTS. NO. 3062697 JOINED AUG. 1939
BELL, JOHN I., 31 DEVON STREET G/MOUTH. 657 A.O.P. SQUADRON NO. 1078513 JOINED SEP. 1940
BELL, JOHN T., 54 HARBOUR ROAD,R.A.S.C. NO S/93113 JOINED SEP. 1939
BELL, ROBERT, 34 SOUTH PHILPINGSTONE LANE. R.N. NO JX641677 JOINED DEC.1943
BELL, STEWART T., 76,ENTWHISTLE ROAD, ROCHDALE. R.A.F. NO. 1349287 JOINED JUNE 1941
BELL WILLIAM, 44 AVON PLACE. R.A.F. NO. 1550467 JOINED MAY 1941
BELL WILLIAM M., MALDEN LODGE, 23 BARNETTWOOD LANE, ASHTEAD, SURREY. R.A.F. NO. 1492652 JOINED OCT. 1941
That's all the Bells! Hope you find the people you're looking for. I can trace my line of Bells to 1835 at the moment, but it's difficult with such a common name!
Regards,
Meggy
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Here are the Stanners - haven't managed to work out yet which are mine!!
STANNERS, ARCHIBALD, 23a GLADSTONE TERR., R.A.F NO.1346074 JOINED MARCH 1941
STANNERS, ARCHIBALD, DRYSDALES BUILDINGS. SEAFORTH HIGHLANDERS. NO. 2987019 JOINED FEB., 1940
STANNERS, D., 16 NEWTOWN STREET. CAMERONIANS. NO. 14621156 JOINED JUNE 1943
STANNERS, GEORGE, 15 DEANFIELD CRESC., CAMERONIANS NO. 3251095 JOINED MARCH 1940
STANNERS, JAMES, 45 NEWTOWN. R.A.F. NO.1574101 JOINED NOV.1942
STANNERS, JAMES, F., "ETNA COTTAGE". R.N. NO.P/MX71178 JOINED SEP. 1940
STANNERS, JEAN, 45 NEWTOWN. A.T.S. NO. 313364 JOINED DEC. 1944
STANNERS, JOHN. 54b BRIDGENESS ROAD. R.G.H. NO.14825014 JOINED AUG. 1944
STANNERS, N.B., 11 DRYSDALES'S BUILDINGS. R.A.F. NO. 1368605 JOINED FEB. 1941
STANNERS, THOMAS, 16 NEWTOWN STREET, R.A. NO. 1634256 JOINED SEP. 1940
STANNERS, THOMAS, 54c BRIDGENESS ROAD. R.N. NO. LT/JX529934 JOINED DEC.1943
STANNERS, WALTER, 45 NEWTOWN. R.A. NO.1140542 JOINED FEB. 1942
STANNERS, WILLIAM S., "ETNA COTTAGE". 53rd WELSH SIGNALS. NO.14365247 JOINED DEC. 1942
STANNERS, "EAST BONHARD COTTAGE" (no other name given) R.A.F. NO. 1344083 JOINED MARCH 1941
That's it for the Stanners!
Hope you find this of interest!
Regards
Meggy
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thank you very much Meggy for taking the time to do this. I have sent you a personal message.
kris
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Thanks again Meggy for your efforts!
Very useful info.
Let me know what Stanners branch you are connected to?
AG
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Thanks again Meggy for your efforts!
Very useful info.
Let me know what Stanners branch you are connected to?
AG
Hi Alan,
My Stanners family is a bit complicated in that Margaret Stanners married James Finlay Stanners Bell.
The Stanners line that I know most about Is Margaret's parents, Thomas Stanners and Christina McCallum.They had 7 children and lost 3 sons in WW1. Another son emigrated to America. They originally lived around the Carriden/ Grangepans area I think.
Thomas's parents were Gilbert and Janet williamson.
It becomes quite difficult to separate the 2 Stanners families when looking at the records!
Also not sure if they were all in fact distantly related!
Would be interested if you have any information!
Regards,
Meggy
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Let's concentrate on one area at a time.
I have a number of "(name) Finlay Stanners" in my tree with ancestors Walter Stanners (1806-1874) and Margaret Finlay (1816-?).
Do you have James Finlay Stanners Bell's parents?
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Hang on Meggy!
We've already done this:
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,488121.msg3464416.html
LOL
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Hang on Meggy!
We've already done this:
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,488121.msg3464416.html
LOL
Oops! Sorry ::) Have been working on another side of the family recently and had completely forgotten!
Meggy
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Hi Meggy
I can see there has not been any posts for some years but, if you still have the book to hand, could you check out by late father-in-law who served in WW2. His name was Richmond Picken Sellar and dependent on which year he enlisted, his address would have been either Main St., Castle Loan or Birkhill Crescent, all Bo'ness.
There is a link with one of the Bell families - he married Henrietta Ramsay Bell in 1941.
Regards
Alan C
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I've got the book handy.
The entry reads:
SELLARS, RICHMOND P., 32 Castleloan. King's Own Royal Regt. No. 5260156. Joined, November 1941.
Was he related to Richmond Picken, Merchant Navy, who was killed in WW2 and appears on the Bo'ness War Memorial?
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Hi Jock
Thanks for the prompt reply, even though I addressed you as Meggy! Dick (Richmond) never really spoke about his time in the army during WW2 so that fills in a gap in the family tree. Interesting that even official documents wrongly spell his name as Sellars rather than Sellar. He was regularly called Dick Sellars in Bo'ness.
The Richmond Picken on the War Memorial would have been Dick's uncle, whose ship was torpedoed in 1942. All other records relating to him call him Richard Picken but that is common in my wife's family tree. For example his father, Richmond Picken, (1869 - 1944), is variously called Richard and Richmond on official records throughout his life. Richmond is a common Christian name on that side of the family dating back to 1800.
Thanks again for the info.
Regards
Alan C
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Just re-read previous posts and see I have wrongly called you Jock - Apologies, Alan C
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No bother Alan.
I don't know if you are aware that I'm the co-author of the book "Without Fear - WW1 Stories of the Men on the Bo'ness War Memorial"?
Likely we are are going to move onto the WW2 names at some point in the future, and perhaps include other interesting stories and photos. Do you have any photos of Dick or his uncle Richmond Picken you could send us? Or any other info that we may include?
All the best,
Alan
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Hi, sorry I haven’t replied sooner. Unfortunately I can’t get the Roll of Honour book just at the moment, so thanks Alan for supplying the information.
Alan I wonder if you could tell me where I can get hold of a copy of Without Fear? I live in Yorkshire and have tried Waterstones but they couldn’t help. I have Stanners relatives on the memorial.
Many Thanks
Meggy
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Hi Meggy - we can send you a copy. If you PM me I will let you know how we can go about that.
G67
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Hi, my name is Kelly Picken, my father was Richmond Picken born 1924 in Bo’ness and his Uncle Richmond Picken died in WW2. I’m wondering if these are the One’s you are referring to. There is a monument in Bo’ness with my Uncles name on it. I have pictures of my Dad sitting on a Sunderland. He was a mechanic.
Kelly
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Hi Kelly,
Your Dad's Uncle Richmond Picken is indeed on the Bo'ness War Memorial WW2 Merchant Navy Plaque.Do you have any photos of him you could share?
I'd also love to see that photo of your Dad sitting on the Sunderland.His name appears n the Bo'ness & Carriden Parishes Roll of Honour as follows:
PICKEN, RICHMOND, 6 Newtown Cottages. R.A.F. No. 1573692. Joined, October 1942.
There is an entry also for:
PICKEN, MARY K. -same address-. WAAF No. 489283. Joined, September 1943.
Do you know who she was in relation to you?
All the best,
G67
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Dad’s sister, we called her Aunt May. I will have to ask my Mom if there any pictures of Uncle Dick. If I’m correct he would have been the one that lived close to my Grandparents but my Dad didn’t really know him. I can also ask a cousin who lives in Scotland. I am at Mom’s tomorrow night. Will ask to see old photos, take pics and upload by Friday. She might have one of Aunt May in uniform as well.
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Thanks for the reply Kelly - I will send you a PM.