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Title: Robert DAVEY & Elizabeth CREEDON
Post by: 31jane on Friday 03 June 11 07:56 BST (UK)
Trying to find information on the family of Robert Davey DOB 1801 St Ewe & wife Elizabeth Creedon DOB 1811.

The couple had 9 children Stephen DOB 1830, John 1830, Edwin 1830, Samuel 1837, Elizabeth Ann 1839, Philip 1840, William 1844, Robert 1847 & James 1850. The family comes from St Austell & later Pentewan region Cornwall.

I am connected to Philip who immigrated to Australia 1878 and settled in the Charters Towers region 1880. Have had a lot of trouble finding any family links of Philip including his sibling or parents family background. Any help would be much appreciated.

Graham
Title: Re: Robert Davey & Elizabeth Creedon
Post by: sillgen on Friday 03 June 11 08:56 BST (UK)
Hi
It might be worth your looking more closely at the 1851 census as that will correct some of the dates of birth you have given and might help find the baptisms.   
HO107 1907 190 6     living at Pentewan
Robert DAVEY, 53  Letter Carrier b St Ewe
Elizabeth  45 b  Probus
John Son unm 22  Blacksmith b St Austell
Edwin Son unm 16  Agl Labourer b St Austell
Samuel Son  14  Agl Labourer b St Austell
Eliz Ann Dau  12 b  St Austell
Philip Son   9  Scholar b St Austell
William Son   7  Scholar b St Austell 
Robert Son   5  Scholar b St Austell
James Son   1  b St Austell

Regards
Andrea
Title: Re: Robert Davey & Elizabeth Creedon
Post by: KGarrad on Friday 03 June 11 09:50 BST (UK)
Cornwall OPC (www <dot> cornwall-opc-database <dot> org) has these baptisms to Robert & Elizabeth:

2nd May 1830, St Austell, Stephen Davey
17 June 1832, St Austell, Edwin Davey
26 December 1833, St Austell, Elizabeth Ann Davey
1st January 1837, St Austell, Samuel Davey
6th January 1839, St Austell, Elizabeth Ann Davey
7th May 1843, Mevagissey, Mary Jane Davey
12th April 1846, Mevagissey, Harriett Ann Davey
6th April 1851, Mevagissey, Henry Davey

Residence is always Pentewan

There is also this burial:
12th January 1834, St Ewe, Elizabeth Anne Davey, age 9 weeks


Title: Re: Robert Davey & Elizabeth Creedon
Post by: osprey on Saturday 04 June 11 20:01 BST (UK)
likely baptism for Robert

http://www.cornwall-opc-database.org/search-database/more-info/?t=baptisms&id=1471484

& possible marriage given Elizabeth's place of birth

http://www.cornwall-opc-database.org/search-database/more-info/?t=marriages&id=543780

John's baptism

http://www.cornwall-opc-database.org/search-database/more-info/?t=baptisms&id=970630

There's an extracted baptism in IGI batch C053011 for Probus for Elizabeth aged 1, dau of William Creeba & Philipa Grose, 13/7/1806
Title: Re: Robert Davey & Elizabeth Creedon
Post by: osprey on Sunday 05 June 11 10:41 BST (UK)
in reply to your question received by pm, Elizabeth's surname is Creeba on the marriage & baptism. Creedon doesn't occur very often in bmds in Cornwal - one marriage in 1861, a birth in 1951 & nothing on the IGI, whereas Creeba & variants does occur.
From "A Handbook of Cornish Surnames"
"Crebo/Creba - from crybow: crests, ridges..found in West Cornwall"

Where did the surname for Elizabeth come from? 

Burial for Elizabeth's possible father in 1837

http://www.cornwall-opc-database.org/search-database/more-info/?t=burials&id=901284
Title: Re: Robert Davey & Elizabeth Creedon
Post by: 31jane on Monday 06 June 11 02:00 BST (UK)
Australian Death certificate of Philip Davey (son) of Robert and Elizabeth shows Elizabeth's surname as Creedon, Philip was born in St Austell Cornwall. When Philip was born his father Robert worked as a Civil Servant
Title: Re: Robert Davey & Elizabeth Creedon
Post by: sillgen on Monday 06 June 11 08:07 BST (UK)
Spellings changed frequently in those days so Creeba is well worth looking at.  No doubt a letter carrier was a civil servant - and it does sound much more prestigious!
Did you check the ages I gave you in the 1851 census?
Andrea
Title: Re: Robert DAVEY & Elizabeth CREEDON
Post by: trish1120 on Monday 06 June 11 14:07 BST (UK)
Hi Graham,
Just a few questions/suggestions.

The Aust. Death Cert info is only as good as the informants knowledge of the deceased.
(I have one with Mothers name as nee Cooper, Cooper was his Fathers occp! and she was a Haigh after further research and Certs purchased)

Do you actually have Philips English Birth Cert?
Is that how you got the info his Father was a Civil Servant?
What is the info on Philips Marriage Cert?

Was Philip an Apprentice Blacksmith 1861 Census? If so he was born c 1842, St Austell which matches 1851 Census Andrea found.

Mistakes are made. Eleanor Augusta Davy (no e) christened 28 Jan 1866 is down as Helena A in 1871 Census.

I agree that Elizabeth is a Creeba.

Trish :)
Title: Re: Robert DAVEY & Elizabeth CREEDON
Post by: osprey on Tuesday 07 June 11 10:00 BST (UK)
birth registrations for some of the children born after the start of civil registration

Elizabeth Ann Davey dec qtr 1838 St Austell vol 9 pg 9
Philip Davy dec qtr 1840 St Austell vol 9 pg 5
Robert Davy june qtr 1845 St Austell vol 9 pg 3
James Davey sept qtr 1849 St Austell vol 9 pg 9

Philip is on the 1841 census enumerated as 8 months old, so 1851 census not entirely correct.

 ;)
Title: Re: Robert DAVEY & Elizabeth CREEDON
Post by: David Stephenson on Saturday 28 December 19 00:14 GMT (UK)
I wonder if there might be link to my family here. My grandfather, Donald Ashley Davey (1908-1980) and his sister, Pearl, were the son of a Robert in the St Austell area. I guess it's unlikely to be Philip's brother Robert as he would have been in his 60s when Donald was born, but first-names carry through generations so there's a good chance of a connection, I hope.
Sadly my mother never knew her grandparents (they died a while before she was born, so before 1943) but I'm hoping to find some kind of connection in the sporadic records.
Title: Re: Robert DAVEY & Elizabeth CREEDON
Post by: 31treehouse on Saturday 28 December 19 21:26 GMT (UK)
Robert Davey was the son of Robert Davey and Elizabeth Creba. The information I have is Robert Davey 1844-1933 St Austell.