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Title: Grave/burial look up for Grace Winnifred Robinson
Post by: Wightlady13 on Sunday 05 June 11 21:27 BST (UK)
Can any one help please, I am trying to find the last resting place for Grace Winnifred Robinson nee Allwork, her death certificate gives the following information date of death 10 Sept 1945, place of death Lower Broughton Road, Broughton, The death was registered at Salford North, Salford I know for certain that she was buried just not where. Her DOB is Jun 1907, her husband, Frederick Tudor Robinson didn't die until 1970 in Westminster London and he was cremated.

Wightlady
Title: Re: Grave/burial look up for Grace Winnifred Robinson
Post by: Luzzu on Sunday 05 June 11 21:51 BST (UK)
Hi,

Do you know if she was Roman Catholic?  If she was I would start by emailing Salford Diocese and ask them to check if she is in St Joseph's RC Cemetery at Moston:-

cemeteries(at)salforddiocese.org

** replace (at) with @ as per Rootschat rules regarding email addresses

When I have emailed with an exact date of death they have been helpful and checked for me.

She doesn't seem to be on the Manchester Online Burials:-

www.burialrecords.manchester.gov.uk

So that leaves Salford and they charge quite a lot for searches - £16.00 with an accurate date.  I don't know whether that would be for a search across all four cemeteries or whether they would charge £16.00 per cemetery.

www.salford.gov.uk/cemeteries

Hope this helps.

Luzzu
Title: Re: Grave/burial look up for Grace Winnifred Robinson
Post by: Wightlady13 on Sunday 05 June 11 21:56 BST (UK)
Hi Luzzu

No she wasn't Roman Catholic.
Yes I have heard that Salford charge a lot, bit mean really for those of us just researching family trees :( :(

Thanks

Wightlady
Title: Re: Grave/burial look up for Grace Winnifred Robinson
Post by: Luzzu on Sunday 05 June 11 22:26 BST (UK)
Hi,

The only other thing I could suggest is a website called Cemsearch.  They have information on Weaste Cemetery, Salford and they charge £6.00 per surname.  They have 32 Robinson graves on their database with details of 129 people.  Its a bit a long shot I know.

www.cemsearch.co.uk/weaste/weasteR.html

I am not sure which of the Salford cemeteries would be closest to Broughton but I am certain someone on the Lancashire board will know.

Luzzu
Title: Re: Grave/burial look up for Grace Winnifred Robinson
Post by: Wightlady13 on Monday 06 June 11 06:07 BST (UK)
Thanks Luzzu, any suggestions are gratefully received I will give the cemsearch site a look.
Wightlady
Title: Re: Grave/burial look up for Grace Winnifred Robinson
Post by: Cancan on Monday 06 June 11 10:06 BST (UK)
Hi,

I think Agecroft Cemetery is the closest to Broughton, with Weaste not far from that one.

Cancan :)
Title: Re: Grave/burial look up for Grace Winnifred Robinson
Post by: willie bat on Monday 06 June 11 12:23 BST (UK)
I know for certain that she was buried just not where. Her DOB is Jun 1907, her husband, Frederick Tudor Robinson didn't die until 1970 in Westminster London and he was cremated.

Wightlady

Hi, how do you know for certain that she was buried? She could well be cremated and the ashes buried with a family member?
Have you tried looking for an obituary in any of the local papers for that time? Do you know the cause of death and was there an inquest? If so i would check to see if there is a coroners report available?
Are any other family members buried in this area, including Manchester where she might have been laid to rest with?

I was 99.9999% one family of mine would not have been cremated and turned out that there children had them cremated due to the coast of burials
Title: Re: Grave/burial look up for Grace Winnifred Robinson
Post by: uk2003 on Monday 06 June 11 12:49 BST (UK)
A friend of mine needed to locate a grave in Agecroft, he lived in Rochdale at the time and was not going to pay stupid money.

What he did was to get a family member in a distant country, saying they were coming over later in the year and would like to visit the family grave blah blah blah etc.  ;D

Did it work on this occasion it did he got the grave number, not who else was in it.  ;D

They can only say "go away" "here she is" or "she is not here" any of the later would help.

So try emailing agecroft.cemetery[at]salford.gov.uk as you have the date of death.

Regards
Ken
Title: Re: Grave/burial look up for Grace Winnifred Robinson
Post by: Luzzu on Monday 06 June 11 13:09 BST (UK)
Would definitely give Ken's suggestion a try.  You have nothing to lose and you have an exact date of death so it would be an easy search for them.  It does sometimes work to say you live in "a distant land" and I would definitely NOT mention you are researching a family tree.  If you want to PM the details to me, I will give it a try emailing for you from overseas  :D.

Luzzu
Title: Re: Grave/burial look up for Grace Winnifred Robinson
Post by: Luzzu on Monday 06 June 11 13:12 BST (UK)
What I am talking about  ::).  All the details are in your original post.  If you want me to try let me know.

Luzzu
Title: Re: Grave/burial look up for Grace Winnifred Robinson
Post by: Wightlady13 on Monday 06 June 11 16:18 BST (UK)
Willie Bat - I know she was buried because mum remembers there was a lot of bad feeling between her grandfather (Grace's Father) and her dad (Frederick Tudor), mum said there was a big argument at the grave side, I guess even though mum was only 5 at the time its the sort of thing that would stick in your mind. Yes I know the cause of death as I have the death certificate, but there was no inquest, her being buried in Manchester area was part of the cause of the argument as her family all orginate from London and Kent area, as I said when Frederick died in London some years later he was cremated from his death certificate I get the impression that he was living on his own and died a lonely old man!

Wightlady

Title: Re: Grave/burial look up for Grace Winnifred Robinson
Post by: Luzzu on Tuesday 07 June 11 10:58 BST (UK)
Top tip, Mancsman! She is buried in Agecroft Cemetery.

Wightlady13 - I have PM'd the details for you.

Luzzu :D
Title: Re: Grave/burial look up for Grace Winnifred Robinson
Post by: uk2003 on Tuesday 07 June 11 11:09 BST (UK)
Nice one Luzzu  ;)

Wightlady let me know if you want me to check for a headstone? I should be able to get there sometime this week

Regards
Ken
Title: Re: Grave/burial look up for Grace Winnifred Robinson
Post by: Wightlady13 on Tuesday 07 June 11 18:43 BST (UK)
Thank you Luzzu and thank you Ken (MancsMan) I have sent you a pm

Wightlady :D ;D :D
Title: Re: Grave/burial look up for Grace Winnifred Robinson
Post by: uk2003 on Wednesday 08 June 11 15:52 BST (UK)
Wightlady

Should get to Agecroft tomorrow for you.

Regards
Ken   
Title: Re: Grave/burial look up for Grace Winnifred Robinson
Post by: uk2003 on Thursday 09 June 11 13:22 BST (UK)
Found her - photos on the way  ;D
Title: Re: Grave/burial look up for Grace Winnifred Robinson
Post by: Wightlady13 on Thursday 09 June 11 16:18 BST (UK)
thanks but photos in email didn't open :'(, have sent you a reply
Title: Re: Grave/burial look up for Grace Winnifred Robinson
Post by: uk2003 on Friday 10 June 11 14:40 BST (UK)
Glad we got there in the end  ;D