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Title: Thom's lookup around 1880 please
Post by: dermo on Thursday 09 June 11 20:34 BST (UK)
Hi

Following up on an ancestral marriage cert, I have Patrick Sarsfield McKeon at 21 Lower Liffey Street.  Does the address appear in the directory?

Dermo 
Title: Re: Thom's lookup around 1880 please
Post by: shanew147 on Thursday 09 June 11 20:47 BST (UK)
Thom's 1879

the numbers are listed very strangely - not quite in order, so I nearly missed it...

16 and 21 Lwr Liffey Street
   Richard McKeon, broker

lots of trademen, dealers and brokers of the street


Shane
Title: Re: Thom's lookup around 1880 please
Post by: dermo on Thursday 09 June 11 21:05 BST (UK)
Shane

Thanks very much, that's excellent.  Richard McKeon was father of the groom, Joseph McKeon, but the marriage took place in Liverpool and while I know the bride, Margaret Carey, was Dublin born I thought Joseph had been born in England.  He must have emigrated.  Patrick must be Richard's son and Joseph's brother.  If so, Richard was obviously a patriot - Joseph's middle names were Wolfe Tone!
Is there any indication of what kind of broker Richard was or any way to find that out?

Regards

Dermo
Title: Re: Thom's lookup around 1880 please
Post by: shanew147 on Thursday 09 June 11 21:13 BST (UK)
that's all it has 'broker'

more than half the addresses street on the street are either 'broker' or 'dealer'  Many of the other trades are furniture related - e.g. furniture dealers, cabinet makers, upholsterers, a mattress maker etc



Shane
Title: Re: Thom's lookup around 1880 please
Post by: dermo on Thursday 09 June 11 21:29 BST (UK)
Shane

That fits very well.  I guess Richard was a furniture broker (what does that mean - wholesaler?).  Joseph McKeon was a "house furnisher"  in Liverpool, according to the UK 1901 and 1911 censuses.  In the 1891 census he was an upholsterer but clearly moved up.  He seems to have done ok for himself, leaving an estate worth about £5000 in 1931.  Liffey Street was obviously a centre for the furnishing trade.

Many thanks

Dermo 
Title: Re: Thom's lookup around 1880 please
Post by: shanew147 on Thursday 09 June 11 21:32 BST (UK)
I think a broker would be usually a kind of middleman - so  wholesaler might be an equivalent modern term


Shane
Title: Re: Thom's lookup around 1880 please
Post by: dermo on Thursday 09 June 11 21:40 BST (UK)
Sounds like it.  Thanks a lot Shane.

Dermo
Title: Re: Thom's lookup around 1880 please
Post by: carosh on Wednesday 30 July 14 18:19 BST (UK)
I am looking for family relations. They are the McKeons.
My gt grandfather was Thomas McKeon (of Westmeath) he moved to Dublin. Married and had 12 children. One of which was my grandmother Teresa McKeon of New Street. He is listed as a cattle dealer and his wife as a glove maker in census records. He was also a butcher.
Anyone with any more information would be grateful.
Title: Re: Thom's lookup around 1880 please
Post by: dathai on Wednesday 30 July 14 20:42 BST (UK)
There was a Wolfe Tone McKeon born Marleybone,London 1855 and a Patrick Sarsfield McKeon born 1859 Shoreditch,London in 1859.
Title: Re: Thom's lookup around 1880 please
Post by: dermo on Wednesday 30 July 14 23:15 BST (UK)
Carosh - I have no evidence of a Westmeath connection for "my" McKeons, I'm afraid.

Dathai - thank you for the information. I had found the Wolfe Tone McKeon reference but not the one for Patrick Sarsfield McKeon. Irishgenealogy.ie has a record of him being baptised in the Pro-Cathedral on 10 Sept 1865 but the record image reveals the notation that he was 5 years of age at the time. Your information fills out the picture. On the same day as Patrick was baptised so was his 17 month old brother Robert Emmet Carey McKeon. Clearly the McKeon family spent a number of years in England but, oddly, it looks as if they awaited their return to Ireland before baptising their children.
Title: Re: Thom's lookup around 1880 please
Post by: dathai on Thursday 31 July 14 10:41 BST (UK)
Patrick Sarsfield McKeon married either Mary Ashworth or Mary Ellen Howarth in Rochdale Jan March 1886.
In turn his son Robert age 30 of 7 Elgin St son of the above Upholsterer married Mary De Quincey Bentley at St James,Mosside,Manchester 23 June 1917 one of the witneses was a Harry McKeon.
This marriage certificate viewable on Family Search.
Title: Re: Thom's lookup around 1880 please
Post by: dathai on Thursday 31 July 14 13:43 BST (UK)
For Carosh reply 7 this topic
Thomas M'KEON
Teresa M'GRATH
Marriage Dublin South
Jan March 1889
Vol 2 page 663.
Title: Re: Thom's lookup around 1880 please
Post by: dathai on Thursday 31 July 14 16:54 BST (UK)
Possible McGrath side of family
Edward McGrath and Hannah Mooney( cant locate marriage )
Children
Mary Teresa born 9 Oct 1869 ,64 New St on Irish Genealogy
Teresa and Hannah twins born 28 Oct 1871 ? on Family Search births 1620/1881 (Hannah may have died prior to 1879)
Catherine born 9th Jan 1873 ,31 Nicholas St on I G
Julia born 5th June 1875 ,31 Nicholas St, on I G
Elizabeth born 15 Nov 1877, 9 Marks Alley
Hannah born 29 Sep 1879, 10 Marks Alley
Title: Re: Thom's lookup around 1880 please
Post by: dermo on Monday 04 August 14 18:24 BST (UK)
Dathai
Many thanks for the additional information.
Dermo