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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => West Lothian (Linlithgowshire) => Topic started by: Helensj on Thursday 09 June 11 23:02 BST (UK)
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Hi everyone,
I have just started tracing my family tree and thought I'd post on here to find out if anyone had any information about these families. Unfortunately my grandparents died long ago so I know very little. I have ancestors in common with Meggy1 through Thomas Stanners and Christina McCallum but I don't have much info on their children and grandchildren.
The info I already have is
Richard Snedden married Janet Williamson Stanners (daughter of Thomas & Christina) in 1896 and had 9 children that I know of.
George, Thomas, Joan or Johan or Johanna, Richard (my grandfather) and Robert. I have a document showing these people were deceased by 1980, the other 4 I haven't listed as I don't know when/if they died.
My ggrandfather Richard Snedden is listed as a stonemason and master builder and was one half of the partnership of Jipps & Snedden in Bo'ness. His parents were George Snaddon and Johanna, possibly Lumsden.
I tried to search for both George Snedden and Joan's death cert (she became Joan Calder) on Scotland's people but had no success.
If anyone has any info or family stories about these people I would be very grateful if you could share them with me.
Thanks,
Helen
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Hi Helen.
Firstly, Welcome to RC. I know folk on here will help you.
I used to be on this forum a lot but haven't been regularly for a long while. Your post made me jump! I have only ever known one family called Stanners. Not relatives, but neighbours.
I've sent an email to (*them*) directing to your post. At this point, I'm not sure whether they will be interested or not but I hope there is some connection.
You WILL get help on Rootschat, (maybe not on THIS thread although I'll do my best).
Good luck.
Dave
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Welcome Helen!
Your first port of call should be Douglas grant's excellent research at:
http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=djgrant&id=I03229 (http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=djgrant&id=I03229)
Click on each name to find out more about the person and also let you see who the parents were.
Douglas has got your Snadden line going back to John Snadden, b.1715.
Check out the index - there are enough Snaddens in there to keep you going for years!
With regard to Stanners - let me know if you need more info going back from Thomas & Christina, as I've got their ancestors on my tree going back to Malcolm Stanners b.1716.
All the best,
AG
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Hi Alan,
I don't think we've crossed paths before.
However, If my Stanners friends are interested, I'll get back in touch... if you don't mind.
Off topic..... I notice you have Rooney. I assume Irish. My Grandmother was a Rooney but I'm struggling with her family. Always a remote chance we're connected or that you've found Rooney's relevant to my family. Do you mind if I send you a PM?
Dave
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Dave,
No bother, got tons of info on both fronts.
Send me a PM.
AG
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Hi Helen, welcome!
Interesting that we have ancestors in common through Thomas and Christina! My Granny was one of their daughters - Margaret Stanners who married James Finlay Stanners Bell.
They went on to have 3 daughters.( only 1 still alive) I've heard the name Sneddon being mentioned, but didn't realise the connection. Sadly, I wish I'd started this when people were still with us.
I've traced back to Christina's parents Neil McCallum and Julia Campbell in Argyllshire. Let me know if you would like the info. I also have a photograph of the Stanners Family.
The names I have to hand Of Thomas and christina's children are Margaret Stanners, Julia C.,
Janet W., Christina McC., , James who emigrated to USA and Gilbert, Neil and Thomas. These last 3 all died in WW!. I have the info if you would like it.
I've had a lot of help from Alan Gow and Carol W on RC.
It would be nice to "pool" our knowledge!
Regards
Meggy1
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Hi, thanks everyone for all your replies.
Thanks for your help Dave.
I'll check out Douglas Grant's tree for the Snaddons, thanks for that Alan.
Meggy, it would be great to pool information. My grandfather died in 1949 so my mum doesn't remember much as she was still a kid. My info has mostly come from an elderly aunt who is in Australia, she started the family tree but isn't online so couldn't go back further than her grandparents. I'm trying to find out what happened to her aunts and uncles and then trace it back while she is still with us so I'd really appreciate your info. If it would be possible to see the photo you have of the Stanners that would be great too. Thanks for your help.
Helen
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Your first port of call should be Douglas grant's excellent research at:
Hey Alan,thanks for that link,I think some of my Snaddons and Gibbs must be related there somewhere,they were lurking around the same area Corbiehall and the names Richard and Euphan in particular crop up in my lot as they do on there.Will have to look into that when I have some time.
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Helen, I haven't heard from my Stanners friends yet. I'm not sure whether that means they are uninterested, but they may be on holiday. I'll let you know if I hear from them.
Alan, I sent you a PM re Rooneys earlier.
Dave
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Ok Dave.
Received the PM.
Yesterday was the Bo'ness Fair over 30s Football Tournament and I've sare legs this morning.
Get back to u soon.
AG
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Hi, thanks everyone for all your replies.
Thanks for your help Dave.
I'll check out Douglas Grant's tree for the Snaddons, thanks for that Alan.
Meggy, it would be great to pool information. My grandfather died in 1949 so my mum doesn't remember much as she was still a kid. My info has mostly come from an elderly aunt who is in Australia, she started the family tree but isn't online so couldn't go back further than her grandparents. I'm trying to find out what happened to her aunts and uncles and then trace it back while she is still with us so I'd really appreciate your info. If it would be possible to see the photo you have of the Stanners that would be great too. Thanks for your help.
Helen
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Hi Helen
Would love to send you the photo - my husband is going to scan it at work as we don't have a scanner at home, so please bear with us!
I have a newspaper cutting that you might be interested in. It's pretty worn but from what I can make out, it's about "Granny Stanners" (Christina McCallum) It tells of how she belonged to the West Highlands and how her father lived to 107! (Neil McCallum)
It goes on to talk about the 9 children and the boys who were lost in WW1. Also mentions one son in the states and one son in Alloa. At that time, she had 22 grandchildren and 22 great grandchildren! She was living with her eldest daughter Mrs Wallace in Glasgow. It also mentions my granny as being another daughter (Margaret) and her daughter in law who lived at Post Office House.
I'm not sure when the article was dated or even why it was deemed newsworthy, but interesting never the less!
I have Thomas Stanners being born 6.5.1848 in Carriden with his parents Gilbert Stanners and Janet Williamson marrying in 1837.
Would love to hear what you have!
Regards
Meggy
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Hi Meggy,
Thank you very much. That all sounds very interesting. Would the daughter in law be Helen Stanners, wife of Gilbert by any chance? She was the only wife I noticed named in the WW1 records.
I haven't got anywhere near as far back as you yet, I am working on Janet Stanners family at the moment but it is very slow. I still haven't managed to trace all her children yet. Five of them show up on Douglas Grant's tree (the link provided by Alan) and I found them on Scotland's People too but I haven't had any success with the rest yet. I now know she had at least 10 children, one died in infancy. Janet married Richard Snedden in 1896. She was a domestic servant and he was a stonemason.
There is a story in the family that there is a swedish connection through Janet so I would like to find out if it is true. I have a copy of a photo of Janet with her husband Richard Snedden and 6 children which must have been taken around 1906, if you would like a copy let me know. At the time her husband was a master builder in partnership with a Mr Charles Jipps in Bo'ness and they built a number of properties which were tenanted. They lost the business, I don't know if they actually went bankrupt or not and then moved to Linlithgow.
My grandfather Richard Snedden was born in 1904 at Hopetown Terrace, Bo'ness, married Margaret Bain in Bridge of Weir, Renfrewshire in 1931 (name became Sneddon) and died in 1949 after a car fell on him (he was a motor mechanic). I believe he would have been your mother's cousin. Two of his sisters moved to Saltcoats in Ayrshire and Janet's husband also moved there to live with his daughters, no mention of Janet though. I'll let you know when I find out more.
Regards,
Helen
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Welcome Helen!
Your first port of call should be Douglas grant's excellent research at:
http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=djgrant&id=I03229 (http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=djgrant&id=I03229)
Click on each name to find out more about the person and also let you see who the parents were.
Douglas has got your Snadden line going back to John Snadden, b.1715.
Check out the index - there are enough Snaddens in there to keep you going for years!
With regard to Stanners - let me know if you need more info going back from Thomas & Christina, as I've got their ancestors on my tree going back to Malcolm Stanners b.1716.
All the best,
AG
Hi Alan,
Wow, there is so much information here, you could be right about keeping me busy for years! Thank you.
I copied the info you posted on Stanners for Meggy last year, following back the paternal line. Do you have Thomas Stanners' siblings names? Which Stanners are you connected to Thomas through?
Regards
Helen
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Helen, I haven't heard from my Stanners friends yet. I'm not sure whether that means they are uninterested, but they may be on holiday. I'll let you know if I hear from them.
Alan, I sent you a PM re Rooneys earlier.
Dave
Hi Dave
Thanks for trying them anyway. The Grant tree is great. I've been taking a while to trace Snaddons as I first thought they were Sneddons, then found out it was Snedden and now Snaddon. It should be a bit more straightforward now.
Regards,
Helen
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Helen,
Just to confirm for others:
THOMAS STANNERS B.1848 was the son of GILBERT STANNERS & JANET WILLIAMSON.
Backwards from From GILBERT STANNERS Christening: 07 MAY 1815 Carriden, West Lothian
Father: JAMES STANNERS Mother: KATHERINE KENNEDY
We have JAMES STANNERS:
Birth: 12 FEB 1791 Grangepans, Carriden, West Lothian, Scotland
Christening: 17 FEB 1791
Death: 26 SEP 1860 Grangepans, Carriden, West Lothian, Scotland
Burial: Grangepans, Carriden, West Lothian, Scotland
Spouse: Catherine Kennedy and/or McDonald
Marriage: 22 JUL 1810 Grangepans, Carriden, West Lothian, Scotland
http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/igi/individual_record.asp?recid=700123379831&lds=1®ion=2®ionfriendly=&juris1=&juris2=&juris3=&juris4=®ionfriendly=&juris1friendly=All+Countries&juris2friendly=&juris3friendly=&juris4friendly=
Then his father JAMES STANNERS
Birth: 15 Aug 1753 Grangepans, Carriden, West Lothian, Scot.
Marriage: Christian MCNAUGHTON
Marriage: 5 Jun 1778 Grangepans, Carriden, West Lothian, Scotland
http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/af/individual_record.asp?recid=3023966&frompage=0
Then his father MALCOLM STANNERS
Birth: Abt 1716 Scotland
Spouse: Agnes TAYLOR
Marriage: May 1753 Grangepans, Carriden, West Lothian, Scotland
http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/af/family_group_record.asp?familyid=590554&frompage=0
From the family group you will also see that Malcolm and Agnes also had a son called MALCOLM STANNERS b.1755 - one of his descendants Tom Stanners married my Granny's sister Mary, so I'm not personally descended from the Stanners but still interested.
One of Malcolm's other descendants is James Finlay Stanners Bell, who married Margaret Stanners, the one of the daughter of Thomas Stanners & Christina McCallum!!
As well as Margaret I have six other siblings - Julia, Janet, Christina, Gilbert, Neil and Thomas - although Meggy talks in a previous post about there being nine.
I'd also be grateful to have a copy of any photos and press article if possible?
Other Stanners descendants from Malcolm emigrated to the US, changed their name to Stanhouse and took part in the American Civil War.
But that's a story for another day...
AG
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Hi Alan,
Would love to hear about the American Civil War!!
My Auntie used to say that wherever you went in the world, you'd find somebody connected to Bo'ness!!
Meggy
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Hi Helen,
I've sent you a PM.
Just for interest, I have, according to the 1851 census, Neil McCallum and Julia Campbell living on Deer Island (Jura). He was aged 63 and she was 40 also had 2 children,Margaret age 6 and Christina age 2.
Oddly, Margaret doesn't appear on any other records. I've been trying to find out why but not having much luck!
Regards
Meggy
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More on the Stanners worldwide tree:
First port of call should be the extensive research by Cindy Hawkins from Dallas, Texas:
http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/h/a/w/Cindy-A-Hawkins/GENE5-0001.html - click on the links just like the Snadden webpages as before. NB - for some reason going to the index page is making my internet explorer close down.
Malcolm Stanners (b.1781) is the son of Malcolm Stanners b.1755, mentioned in earlier posts, who is the brother of James Stanners b.1753.
For more background info see:
http://genforum.genealogy.com/stanhouse/messages/1.html
And
http://books.google.com/books?id=DXp9Gkkh8Z8C&pg=PA278&lpg=PA278&dq=malcolm+stanners+Bo'ness+Scotland&source=bl&ots=MV7dG3hGqW&sig=sCiOCRrmPVTDQYcoo9cHdMkWXhI&hl=en&ei=A-QmS_GSFYj-nAfzv_ivDQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=3&ved=0CBMQ6AEwAg#v=onepage&q=malcolm%20stanners%20Bo'ness%20Scotland&f=false
Looking through my own info I've also found another Snaddon/Sneddon & Stanners connection.
This time it relates to Nicolas Stanners b.1805 who was also the daughter of Malcolm Stanners b.1781 and Elizabeth Adamson mentioned above.
Nicolas (female) married Richard Sneddon/Snaddon in Bo'ness. Some of the descendants are in New Zealand, although I've lost their contact details.
Try searching on GenesReunited for Stanners and dates and you may find more info.
Hope this is of interest?
AG
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Wow! Really interesting - thanks for that Alan.
Regards
Meggy
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Thanks Alan, all this is amazing.
Meggy, I sent you a pm.
Helen
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While I have some Sneddon/Snaddons about,does anyone know who these two witnesses are likely to be.Marriage was my great grandmother's brother Samuel McEwan to Agnes Shearer in 1913 at Reddingmuirhead,they were living at Blackbraes Muiravonside.
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I've just checked all the names I have so far on the snedden tree but I don't have them at the right age to be these witnesses. My Janet would only have been 3 years old then. Have you had a look through the link Alan put up for Douglas Grant's tree in a previous post? If you click on the father's name it takes you back a generation and you can see all the siblings names.
Good luck,
Helen
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All you Stanners descendants - you've even got your own registered tartan.
(http://www.tartanregister.gov.uk/imageCreation.aspx?ref=10096&width=350&height=350)
http://www.tartanregister.gov.uk/tartanDetails.aspx?ref=10096
This tartan is for the use of the Stanners family who lived in Grangepans, Bo'ness, West Lothian, for 200 years. It is for family members, relatives and anyone linked to the family by marriage.
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Meggy & Helen,
You mentioned James Stanners, the son of Thomas and Christina Stanners, brother of Janet Williamson Stanners and Margaret Stanners, and that he emigrated to the US.
I think I've more info on that, have sent a PM to both of you.
AG
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Hi,
Does anyone have any information on the stanners/keenan family?
I have researched back until Malcolm Stanners in the 1700's until Jeanie Stanners (born about 1880) who married my great grandfather Hugh Keenan.
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Hi, welcome to Rootschat!
I've had a quick look at my information,but can't find any mention of Keenan. One of Malcolm Stanners's descendents was James Finlay Stanners Bell who was my relative.
I'm sure somebody out there will be able to help you further!
Good Luck
meggy1
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Brydeep,
Need more info - can you tell us the ancestry of Jeanie in more detail - dates, etc.
AG
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Jeanie was born around 1880 in New Monkland, Lanarkshire from what I can find on census.
Jeanie married Hugh Keenan and had 3 children Hugh, William and John (my grandfather) in the early 1900's.
Her parents were William and Isabella Stanners born in Bo'ness, Linlithgowshire.
I've found William Stanner's mother was Janet but can't seem to find his father.
Hope that helps - if you need anymore info please let me know.
Thanks!
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Is this the family:
http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/r/a/v/David-W-Ravie/GENE15-0008.html
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Looks like the family, thank you.
I just can't seem to find anything that links Jeanie to Hugh Keenan.
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Brydeep,
Hugh and Jean's wedding certificate is on Scotlandspeople. They were married in Dunfermline in 1903. Both Hugh and his father John Keenan were bakers btw.
As you correctly say, Jeanie's parents were William Stanners and Isabella Seith. Isabella's ancestry can be traced from the website I gave you in the previous post.
I think both William Stanners and Isabella Seith may be buried in Polmont - see http://www.memento-mori.co.uk/53.pdf.
William and Isabella's marriage cert is also on Scotlandspeople. They were married in 1862 in Carriden, Bo'ness. The cert lists William's parents as Gilbert Stanners and Janet Williamson.
This means that William Stanners was the brother of Thomas Stanners (who married Christina McCallum) the ancestors of Meggy1 and Helensj (see page 1)- you are close relations!
Further - we can positively trace Gilbert back through James Stanners b. 1791, James Stanners b. 1753 to Malcolm Stanners born circa 1716.
Hope this helps.
Let me know if you need further info?
AG
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AG,
Thank you so much, that information has helped me a lot!
That's great to find out I have relatives on here!
Are you related to the Stanners?
Thanks,
Brydee
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Brydeep - Have sent you a personal message.
Any other Bo'ness Stanners out there - we would be delighted to help.
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Hi Alan thanks for the message!
Brydeep, you are certainly related to Helen and myself! If you would like to send me an email address, we can swap notes, although I'm not as knowledgable as Alan!
Regards Meggy1
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Hi Brydeep, welcome to rootschat.
Thomas Stanners was my gggrandfather. His daughter Janet married my ggrandfather Richard Sneddon. I'd be happy to share info with you if you want to pm me with your email address.
Helen
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Link on page 1 needs updating to:
http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=SHOW&db=djgrant&surname=Baird%2C+George
G67
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I posted this in the wrong place at first. My first attempt after signing up. Meggy1, I noticed the names Finlay Stanners. My Grandmother was Helen Finlay Stanners Bell. Her husband was John Thompson Bell. Her sons were Alexander (Band Sandy), John (Old Kirk beadle), James (coop baker) and Walter (Carriden pit). She lived at the Anchorage on Philpingstone Road and died in 1941. Are we related?
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Hi Mucklejock
We are indeed related! My Grandfather was James (the baker) and he married my granny who was Margaret Stanners Bell. I have a picture of your grandparents hanging on the wall! I remember hearing of Band Sandy too. James (Jimmy) and Margaret had three girls - Christine, Helen (twins) and Margaret, my mum. Sadly, only Helen is still alive (93), Christine died in 1996 and my Mum passed away in 1998. Coincidently, it would have been her birthday today.
If you would like, I can email you some pics. Just send me a Private Message, as we are not allowed to post email addresses publicly on the forum.
Kind Regards,
Meggy1
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Alan, We've established that meggy1 and Mucklejock are related through Helen Finlay Stanners and
John Thompson Bell, third cousins. Now, where do you fit into the picture? Are they in your family tree? What branch are you on?
Regards.
John
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Please forgive my late response Mucklejock!
I'm not a Stanners descendant but my Granny's sister Mary Jane Murray McMeeking was married to Thomas (Tom) Hamilton Stanners so I've accumulated a lot of Stanners info through the years.
To summarise the ancestral line:
Tom < Walter < John (bro of Helen Finlay Stanners) < Walter < Malcolm < Malcolm < Malcolm Stanners (b. 1716).
Let me know if I can help in anyway?
All the best,
G67
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Thanks Jock,
That line goes back three generations further than I was able to find. I got as far as Walter Stanners married to Helen Finlay. Can you let me have the rest of that line of Stanners. Did you identify when the Stanners brothers came down from, I believe, Glen Morriston area?
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Alan, Why did I call you Jock?
Going back into the communication thread, I see that you probably have provided some of the information I wanted. Thanks for your help. I am a great grandson of Helen Finlay Stanners.
Keep in touch.
Mucklejock.
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OK John.
If you go back to page 1 of this discussion and work your way through it should all become clearer.
See also https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/2:1:M723-48B (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/2:1:M723-48B)
Malcolm Stanners b. 1781 married Elizabeth Adamson.
They were the parents of Walter Stanners b. 1806 who married Helen Finlay.
I've also sent you a private message.
G67
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Richard Sneddon (b. 1801) was my 2nd great grand uncle! Anyway, I've been researching this branch recently and believe that Richard's parents were John Snaddon and Elisabeth Bouch. They married "clandestinely" 8 June 1794. Richard's sister Jean Sneddon (who married Alexander Brown) was my 2nd great-grandmother. Some folks have Elisabeth Bouch as "Agnes Elisabeth" Bouch and her surname has been recorded in a number of ways. I would love to know her ancestry too. Anyway, other trees that I've seen online do not have my Jean Sneddon and I think that is because 1) she was married before 1841 and cannot be found with the rest of the family as she married in 1838, and 2) I am told that there was a gap in birth records around the time she was born (ca. 1816).
If you'd like to compare notes or share info, you could email me: libertybelle76@comcast.net
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Hi Dagny, do you know who the parents were of the Alexander Brown you mentioned.
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Yes. Alexander Brown's parents were James Brown and Mary Anderson. Alexander Brown (b. 6 Feb. 1803 in New Monkland) married Jean Sneddon 24 Nov. 1838 in Polmont, Stirling. Record says Jean was "in the parish of Bo'ness." I think this could have been Alexander Brown's second marriage as he seems to have had a son George born ca. 1821. Spelling on surnames of Sneddon and Bouch seem to vary. Jean became the widow of Alexander and remarried to a Thomas Smith in 1862. Unfortunately on Jean's death record in 1903 in New Monkland, her mother's maiden name was recorded as "Butch." On her marriage to Thomas Smith (1862) it was recorded as "Budge." Are you related to any of these folks?
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Not to any of these, though I do have Brown and Sneddon ancestors in Bo'ness. I wondered about the Alexander you mentioned but he's not one of mine.
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Just been browsing through the STANNERS posts and wondered if my great grandmothers 2nd husband, JOHN STANNERS, belonged to any of the families mentioned.
He was born to parents John and Ann Stanners nee McIntosh, Bo'ness Scotland on the 2nd Feb 1871 and had siblings Agnes, Annie, George, James, Julia, and Jeannie.
He came to Australia around 1909-1911 (best guess) and married my great grandmother Hilda Hickey, (a widow with 4 children) in Victoria in 1912.They had two more children together Jeanne McIntosh Stanners in 1913 and Douglas John Stanners in 1914.These two children were sent to Canada by their paternal Aunt, Jeannie Hastie nee Stanners in the early 1920's when they became orphaned (John died in 1919 and Hilda in 1920). I think that they went to another paternal aunt or uncle to be raised but not really sure.
Do this lot of Stanners fit on anyone's family tree?..I don't know very much else about them, or anything about John before he came to Australia.
Kasden
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Kasden,
Yes - but I think you have John's father's name wrong - should be JAMES Stanners?
If that's right then your John is part of this branch http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=djgrant&id=I2415 (http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=djgrant&id=I2415)
If you click on the links to each ancestor you will end up at Malcolm Stanners and Agnes Taylor (b 1722).
Hope this helps but let us know if you need any further help?
G67
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yes , your right G67, I did mean JAMES not John.. sorry , my error :) thanks for the link.
Kasden
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I stumbled across this site/thread and am so excited! I am a descendant of the Stanners-turned-Stanhouse line. I have researched off and on for years. I have to admit I am still confused. I am even unsure of exact name spellings.
James Stanhouse, born 1840 in Bo'ness, Ann Snaddon, born 1836 in Bo'ness are my great great grandparents. Their daughter, Katie, born in 1864 in Bo'ness (not long before they emigrated to the United States) is my great grandmother.
Any information welcome!
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Hi Jac66,
It is confusing trying to follow the various Stanners! My limited understanding is that possibly one set of Stanners travelled with Brigham Young, of the Mormon Church and the name was changed to Stanhouse because of accent difficulties! I'm guessing you possibly already know this.
They ended up in DuQuoin? As I say, my knowledge of this part of the family is limited. Gow67 is more knowledgable than me I think. Are you on Ancestry at all? There are a few trees on there with Stanners branches, (including mine ) . It might be worth a look.
Meggy
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Meggy,
I had not heard of the Mormom following. I believe they were already established out west by the time my direct line arrived. They were coal-miners in the Randolph/Perry county area and did end up in DuQuoin. I am on Ancestry.
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Hi Jac66,
Nice to hear from you!
If you start at page 1 here and work forward there is a lot of info for you.
The Brigham Young ref comes from https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=DXp9Gkkh8Z8C&pg=PA278&lpg=PA278&dq=malcolm+stanners+Bo%27ness+Scotland&source=bl&ots=MV7dG3hGqW&sig=sCiOCRrmPVTDQYcoo9cHdMkWXhI&hl=en&ei=A-QmS_GSFYj-nAfzv_ivDQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q=malcolm%20stanners%20Bo'ness%20Scotland&f=false (https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=DXp9Gkkh8Z8C&pg=PA278&lpg=PA278&dq=malcolm+stanners+Bo%27ness+Scotland&source=bl&ots=MV7dG3hGqW&sig=sCiOCRrmPVTDQYcoo9cHdMkWXhI&hl=en&ei=A-QmS_GSFYj-nAfzv_ivDQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q=malcolm%20stanners%20Bo'ness%20Scotland&f=false) mentioned earlier.
Not sure about that but it seems to come from a local historical source in Perry County.
What is your user name on Ancestry?
G67
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Hi Jac66,
We may be cousins. I am descended from your James Stanners/Stanhouse's brother Walter.
He came to United States with he was about five with his parents, Malcolm (1817- about 1866) and Christiana (Stanners) Stanhouse (1817- about 1886). Walter married Rebecca Yancey (1857-1934) in 1876 in Perry County, Illinois. My grandmother was their daughter Rachel Stanhouse (1894-1969). My dad grew up in Du Quoin, Illinois.
Malcolm's (1817-) parents were Malcolm Stanners (1781-) and Elisabeth Adamson (1781-).
Christiana's parents were James Stanners (1791-1860) and Catherine Kennedy (1786-1863).
I think, based on a copy of a letter of recollections written about 40 years ago, that the Malcolm Stanhouse who died in Atlanta, Georgia in 1864 was Christiana's brother, not her husband.
My ancestry name is ellen5251 on Neal Family Tree.
Ellen