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William Stoddart born abt 1833 in Fort Augustus and Mary Kennedy born abt 1841 ?Kilmonivaig, had a daughter Sarah Ann Stoddart 1880 - 1967 born in Fort Augustus, Inverness shire.
Does anyone have any relevant information about Sarah's siblings and parents and siblings of William and Mary.
Thanks.
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I have a picture of me taken with my Mum and Dad at a wedding in the Ness Bank Church, Inverness sometime in the late 50s early 60s - on the back is written:
At the wedding of Marjorie Stoddart.
I have childhood memories of going to visit people at either Whitebridge, Errogie or Farr and wonder if these people were part of the Stoddart family.
I also remember a family named Kennedy, who I think may have been connected - one of the Kennedys, a girl, used to play the piano accordian.
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Children of William and Mary (Marriage: 06 JUL 1870 Boleskine, Inverness, Scotland)
JAMES STODDART Male Birth: 12 MAY 1871 Boleskine, Inverness, Scotland
EWEN STODDART Male Birth: 25 AUG 1872 Boleskine, Inverness, Scotland
JESSIE STODDART Female Birth: 13 MAR 1874 Boleskine, Inverness, Scotland
all on the IGI
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No more children on the Family Search site but you might get lucky on SP
http://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/welcome.aspx
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If Ewen was named after his maternal grandfather this could be Mary's birth MARY KENNEDY Female Birth: 07 MAR 1832 Applecross, Ross And Cromarty, Scotland and the family on the census in 1841.
Applecross, Ross & Cromarty
Address: Sand
KENNEDY Ewen M 40 Sheepherd Ross and Cromarty
KENNEDY Isabella F 35 Ross and Cromarty
KENNEDY Ann F 14 Ross and Cromarty
KENNEDY John M 11 Ross and Cromarty
KENNEDY Mary F 9 Ross and Cromarty
KENNEDY William M 7 Ross and Cromarty
KENNEDY Martha F 4 Ross and Cromarty
KENNEDY Grace F 1 Ross and Cromarty
Ewan's marriage to ISABEL GILLENDERS 14 FEB 1826 Applecross, Ross And Cromarty, Scotland
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I can't find them on the 1851. :-[
I'm not finding William Stoddart near there or Inverness either.
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Kilchuiman Cemetery, Fort Augustus
In loving memory of Ewan Stoddart who died on the 25th Dec 1874 aged 2 years. Also Helen Stoddart who died on the 28th Nov 1889 aged 3 years. Also their loving mother Mary Kennedy who departed this life on the 7th Sep 1896 aged 50 years. And their father William Stoddart who died on 2nd Feb 1913 aged 81 years. Also their daughter Catherine who died on 9th Sep 1956 aged 81 years.
Next stone
Sacred to the memory of James Stoddart died at Markethill 1st April 1845 aged 86 years. And his wife Janet Fraser died Dec 1839 aged 66 years. Also their daughter Mary died 23rd March 1832 aged 74 years. Simon and James died in Australia. Erected by their seventh son William.
and next to that
Pray for the souls of Alexander Matheson died at Inchmacardoch 26th Sep 1940 aged 67 years. Also his wife Mary Stoddart died 3rd March 1964 aged 84 years. And their family Letta died 4th Jan 1940 aged 20 years. Hugo died 4th Jan 1940 aged 14 years, ----Kennedy died 4th Jan 1940 aged 15 years.
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This is a possible and also links to Fort Augustus
1851 census
Inverness -Inverness-shire
Address: 47 High Street
FORBES William Welsh Head U M 44 2nd Bailie Inverness -- Sargnt Inverness-shire - Inverness ?occ: Solicitor written later
STODDART William Servnt U M 17 Groom Inverness-shire - Fort Augustus
MURRAY Christina Servnt U F 40 House Servant Ross and Cromarty - Resolis
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Couldn't believe my eyes when I saw this posting. Mary Kennedy is one of my Glengarry Kennedy family. One of their daughters was Mrs Matheson, Lilac Cottage, Fort Augustus - tragic house fire 1940 - three youngsters killed. Another daughter married Roderick Kennedy, Inverness - they lived in "Culzean", Telford Street, Inverness - the family had a butchers shop in Inverness and one of the sons was Canon Alistair Kennedy died about 1975.
Connected to the Kennedy and MacDonell families of Stratherrick and the MacDonald family of Achnaconeran, Glenmoriston. Many relatives around Fort William area.
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I have a connection to William Stoddart and Mary Kennedy. Their son James married Margaret Moffat, daughter of John Moffat and Marjory MacKay. Does anyone know if Mary Kennedy was the daughter of Martin Kennedy & Ann McDonald? Martin and Ann have a daughter Mary b 1848 and a son Roderick 1846, both born Kilmonivaig.
Ann
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Mary Kennedy who died at Fort Augustus in 1896, was the daughter of Archibald Kennedy and his wife Carherine MacDonell. She was the grand daughter of Ewen Kennedy and his wife Mary Cameron of Balmaglaster, Invergarry.
Mary Kennedy's husband, William Stoddart, who died at Fort Augustus in 1913, was the son of James Stoddart and his wife Jessie Fraser.
I would love to hear more about James Stoddart, son of William and Mary!!
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I only have a little on James as I am connected through the Moffat family. James was a carpenter who married Margaret Moffat. She says she was born in Ireland about 1868. I have only found one daughter Mary born 1899 in Edinburgh. James and Margaret both died after 1901.
Margaret Moffat was the daughter of John Moffat and Margery McKay. He was a labourer and Margery was a midwife. They had another daughter Mary who I haven't tracked past 1881 census. John & Margery are buried in Kilchuiman and have a headstone (number 124 on the CD) . John's parents were James Moffat & Margaret McGregor who lived at Newton, near Aberchalder. John's sister Elizabeth was my great great grandmother.
So I have a fragile link to the Stoddart's but found them while looking for Kennedy's, in particular Catherine Kennedy who married John McDonell. The have a memorial at Auchterawe cemetery. If you spread the circle wide enough, you always seem to come back to someone you know!!
Hope this is of some help.
By the way some of the dates are wrong, no doubt related to the poor state of the headstones. Mary Stoddart can't have died in 1862 as she is with James in the 1871 census, and certainly not 14 years old (she was born about 1822). It looks like James Stoddart died in 1877 aged 86 (not 1845, as listed here on an earlier post).
I'll keep digging.
Ann
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Thanks for the info on James Stoddart.
I made contact earlier this year with the descendants of his brother Simon who live in Australia, also other relatives in Fort Augustus.
abrach1
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HI
I was at school, Inverness Royal Academy, 1955 -1961 with Heather Stoddart from Gorthleck (Dores parish). It is near Errogie mentioned by another person. I am not sure where she went when she left school.Her father most likely worked on one of the estates there.
Hope this helps. irenef
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I have just discovered that my first cousin, once removed, Donaldina Mackay, born 1908 was married to a George Stoddart, born 1901.
Donaldina was the daughter of Donald Mackay and Maggie Ann (Margaret) Kelly / MacGillivary.
George was the son of James Stoddart and Bella (Isabella) Smith.
Donaldina and George married in 1930.
The areas of Petty, Dores, Dunlichity etc are all featured with this family.
I would love to hear from anyone with connections.
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Hiya have just joined up and am researching William Stoddart and Mary Kennedy. Sarah O'Malley immigrated to Australia.
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William Stoddart maried Mary Kennedy on 6th July 1870 at Fort Augustus.
Ten children :-
James bc 1871, Ewen bc 1872 d 1874, Katy bc 1876 d 1956, Jessie bc 1874 d 1947 (married Roderick Kennedy - butcher's business in Inverness, one son was Canon Alastair Kennedy), Archie bc 1877, Mary bc 1879 (married Alexander Matheson0, Sarah bc 1880, Annie bc 1883, Helen bc 1886 d 1889, Simon bc 1884 d 1961 in Australia.
William Stoddart was the son of James Stoddart and Jessie Fraser, Mary Kennedy was the daughter of Archibald Kennedy and Catherine MacDonell, and the grand daughter of Ewen Kennedy and Mary Cameron of Balmaglaster, Invergarry.
I am descended from Angus Kennedy, brother of Archibald Kennedy.
abrach1
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We must be from the same family I have Archibald Kennedy married Catherine McDonald had a daughter Mary Kennedy. Dates seem to be the same. How ever I was told, to make it confusing that their daughter Jessie married a Kennedy. Have u gone beyond James Stoddart b1792 Jessie Frazer b1793.
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MacDonalds and MacDonells became mixed up (nightmare trying to sort them out!)
Glengarry was very much MacDonell country.
I haven't gone any further back on the Stoddart line as it is the Kennedy side I am interested in.
Loads of info on the Kennedy family and their descendants who married into MacDonells.
Areas of interest - Glengarry, Glenmoriston, Boleskine, Stratherrick.
I would like to hear more from you - especially if you have any photos!
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Hiya
I am not sure if you're in the UK or not. I have been to lilac cottage mentioned in previous conversations. I have been told that James Stoddart had built Lilac Cottage. I do know there was a William Kennedy (willie) and Rhonda lived in Inverness. He died in about 2005. Jessie had 5 sons and 3 daughters. In 1985 1sone and 1 daughter were still living.
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Yes I an in the UK.
I have been to Tomnahurich Cemetery in Inverness and found the Inverness Kennedy family grave. it is quite close to my great grandmother's brother and sister's family graves. Also been to the Fort Augustus cemeteries and found the Stoddarts and Mathesons.
I can't remember how to send a personal message, but if you want to send me one, feel free to do so.
abrach1
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I have an entry in my Great Grandfathers Shoemaking Book, from March 1907 stating he made 1 pair of boots for James Stoddart, Shepherd, Tullich. There are a lot of Strathnairn, Daviot, Dunlichity, family names & croft names listed in the book, which covers 1906-1908. Must try and get it all onto a spreadsheet, it may fill in a gap for some people between census years?
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I have just discovered that my first cousin, once removed, Donaldina Mackay, born 1908 was married to a George Stoddart, born 1901.
Donaldina was the daughter of Donald Mackay and Maggie Ann (Margaret) Kelly / MacGillivary.
George was the son of James Stoddart and Bella (Isabella) Smith.
Donaldina and George married in 1930.
The areas of Petty, Dores, Dunlichity etc are all featured with this family.
I would love to hear from anyone with connections.
There is a burial at Dunlichity Church for James Stoddart, died Dalveallan, Farr 18/01/1959 aged 89, beloved husband of Isabella Smith, died RNI 4/11/1942 aged 63 years. Not sure if this is connected with your post.
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I have just discovered that my first cousin, once removed, Donaldina Mackay, born 1908 was married to a George Stoddart, born 1901.
Donaldina was the daughter of Donald Mackay and Maggie Ann (Margaret) Kelly / MacGillivary.
George was the son of James Stoddart and Bella (Isabella) Smith.
Donaldina and George married in 1930.
The areas of Petty, Dores, Dunlichity etc are all featured with this family.
I would love to hear from anyone with connections.
There is a burial at Dunlichity Church for James Stoddart, died Dalveallan, Farr 18/01/1959 aged 89, beloved husband of Isabella Smith, died RNI 4/11/1942 aged 63 years. Not sure if this is connected with your post.
Thank you Scotsquinne, they would indeed be part of the family - not blood family, but in-law family.
Maggie Ann Kelly / Kellie / McGillivray was my grandfather's sister. They were both the illegitimate children of Catherine McGillivray, who in turn was the illegitimate child of Marjory Grant / McPherson (the family are quite complicated to trace !!!)
Maggie Ann married Donald Mackay and they had a daughter, Donaldina, who married George Stoddart.
The burial you have found, is for George's parents.
I remember, as a little girl, going with my Granny to visit - Aunty Dolly and Uncle Geordie. Of course, I didn't know the family connection until I started tracing my family tree.
Now, it falls into place.
Fortunately, the name Elrig, Daviot and Dunlichity, helps me to connect the names.
Do you have a photograph of the headstone in Dunlichity?
By the way, Donaldina and George (Aunty Dolly and Uncle Geordie) are buried in Daviot Grave Yard.
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I have just discovered that my first cousin, once removed, Donaldina Mackay, born 1908 was married to a George Stoddart, born 1901.
Donaldina was the daughter of Donald Mackay and Maggie Ann (Margaret) Kelly / MacGillivary.
George was the son of James Stoddart and Bella (Isabella) Smith.
Donaldina and George married in 1930.
The areas of Petty, Dores, Dunlichity etc are all featured with this family.
I would love to hear from anyone with connections.
There is a burial at Dunlichity Church for James Stoddart, died Dalveallan, Farr 18/01/1959 aged 89, beloved husband of Isabella Smith, died RNI 4/11/1942 aged 63 years. Not sure if this is connected with your post.
Thank you Scotsquinne, they would indeed be part of the family - not blood family, but in-law family.
Maggie Ann Kelly / Kellie / McGillivray was my grandfather's sister. They were both the illegitimate children of Catherine McGillivray, who in turn was the illegitimate child of Marjory Grant / McPherson (the family are quite complicated to trace !!!)
Maggie Ann married Donald Mackay and they had a daughter, Donaldina, who married George Stoddart.
The burial you have found, is for George's parents.
I remember, as a little girl, going with my Granny to visit - Aunty Dolly and Uncle Geordie. Of course, I didn't know the family connection until I started tracing my family tree.
Now, it falls into place.
Fortunately, the name Elrig, Daviot and Dunlichity, helps me to connect the names.
Do you have a photograph of the headstone in Dunlichity?
By the way, Donaldina and George (Aunty Dolly and Uncle Geordie) are buried in Daviot Grave Yard.
Ah i see. Same area as my Family are from. I am heading to Dunlichity next week to take some photos actually, I will get a photo of it for you. The Stoddard name appears in one of my Census Forms from memory, someone marked as a 'visitor'. Think there is also a Stoddard on the War Memorial from WW1. Will have a wee look.
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The Stoddart on the War Memorial, is Gunner John Stoddart M.M. , Elrig. (Son of James Stoddart, Castle Stuart, Dalcross). ...... His name is under my Granda's Uncle, Gunner Angus Shaw, Croachy.
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I have just discovered that my first cousin, once removed, Donaldina Mackay, born 1908 was married to a George Stoddart, born 1901.
Donaldina was the daughter of Donald Mackay and Maggie Ann (Margaret) Kelly / MacGillivary.
George was the son of James Stoddart and Bella (Isabella) Smith.
Donaldina and George married in 1930.
The areas of Petty, Dores, Dunlichity etc are all featured with this family.
I would love to hear from anyone with connections.
There is a burial at Dunlichity Church for James Stoddart, died Dalveallan, Farr 18/01/1959 aged 89, beloved husband of Isabella Smith, died RNI 4/11/1942 aged 63 years. Not sure if this is connected with your post.
Thank you Scotsquinne, they would indeed be part of the family - not blood family, but in-law family.
Maggie Ann Kelly / Kellie / McGillivray was my grandfather's sister. They were both the illegitimate children of Catherine McGillivray, who in turn was the illegitimate child of Marjory Grant / McPherson (the family are quite complicated to trace !!!)
Maggie Ann married Donald Mackay and they had a daughter, Donaldina, who married George Stoddart.
The burial you have found, is for George's parents.
I remember, as a little girl, going with my Granny to visit - Aunty Dolly and Uncle Geordie. Of course, I didn't know the family connection until I started tracing my family tree.
Now, it falls into place.
Fortunately, the name Elrig, Daviot and Dunlichity, helps me to connect the names.
Do you have a photograph of the headstone in Dunlichity?
By the way, Donaldina and George (Aunty Dolly and Uncle Geordie) are buried in Daviot Grave Yard.
Went to Dunlichity today, shall try and upload the photos, cant remember the max jpg size, but will try - or if you drop me a PM with your email address I can send them that way too.
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Photos from Dunlichity Churchyard. Stone lies flat in the ground, just beside the window on the South Side.
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General View of Dunlichity Church :)
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Thank you, Scotsquinne, the photos are amazing.
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You're welcome. The stone is white marble I think, and would probably clean up quite well with some water and a soft brush, however didnt have any water with me. Found my 4x Gt Grandparents stone there too. Some interesting marks on the wall of the enclosure too, apparently where swords/arrows were sharpened in days gone by :-) . Cute wee place.
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Dear Sir/Ms.
My name is Gary in Australia & I am tracing my wife’s forebears including Janet McDonald. She m. James Anderson 30/11/1817 in Caithness but was b.c. 1800 at Stratherrick. Just wondering if you have any records that might identify her parents.
Regards,
Gary.
1841 Census
Lapan, Latheron
John Anderson, 65 Independent, N
James Anderson, 40 Independent, N
Janet Anderson, 40, N
William (15), Elizabeth (15), James (12), Margaret (10), N
Donald (8), Y
Archibald (2), N
Donald Sutherland, 20, Tailor, Y
Janet Sutherland 20, N
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Dear Sir/Ms.
My name is Gary in Australia & I am tracing my wife’s forebears including Janet McDonald. She m. James Anderson 30/11/1817 in Caithness but was b.c. 1800 at Stratherrick. Just wondering if you have any records that might identify her parents.
Regards,
Gary.
1841 Census
Lapan, Latheron
John Anderson, 65 Independent, N
James Anderson, 40 Independent, N
Janet Anderson, 40, N
William (15), Elizabeth (15), James (12), Margaret (10), N
Donald (8), Y
Archibald (2), N
Donald Sutherland, 20, Tailor, Y
Janet Sutherland 20, N
Hi Gary, Have you traced her Death via Scotlands people website? If she died in Scotland after 1855 theres a good chance her parents names will be on the Death Cert..... I take it the census is referring to Latheron in Caithness?
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Thanks very much for replying. No luck I'm afraid.
Cheers,
Gary.
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Thanks very much for replying. No luck I'm afraid.
Cheers,
Gary.
Maybe 'ghostwhisperer' who has commented on the thread earlier may be able to help, I know she has many records of Cemetery Inscritpions of various Inverness-shire places. Stratherrick as a birthplace covers a few wee village type places, inc Errogie/Foyers I think, possibly part of Dores too...
http://southlochnessheritage.co.uk/ might be worth a look too.
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Hi, I just found this post and immediately registered on rootschat. I can offer no help on the Stoddard quest, however, I recently learned that my great-grandmother Sarah Kennedy was the daughter of Archibald and Catherine (McDonald) Kennedy. Any additional information that anyone can provide on the Kennedy and/or McDonald families would be most welcome. As stated, I am new to this site so I will begin looking through the posts myself, but I'm quite sure that I can use a bit of help. Thanks much.
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Gary,
James Anderson & Janet McDonald are on the 1851 census at Knockinnan, Latheron; then in 1861 they are at 48 North Frederick St, Glasgow. By this time, James is 63, a tailor, and Janet is 62. In 1971, Janet, 75, is head of the house at 7 Ronald St, Glasgow. Apparently James has died.
Janet died in 1876, aged 84. Her parents were William McDonald, a Mason, & Janet Fraser.
The thread is really about Wm & Mary Stoddart. I could give you fuller details about the above if you contacted me privately.
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It would seem that we are related!
I am descended from Archie's brother Angus Kennedy.
I have a volume of info on the Kennedy family.
I knew of your Sarah but didn't know if she married.
Send me a PM and we can exchange information.
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Gary,
Janet McDonald Anderson's parents were William McDonald & Janet Fraser. ...There is a marriage of a William McDonald to a Janet Fraser at Inverness 29th May 1764. As Janet McDonald was born in 1792 (she was 84 on her death in 1876, Glasgow), this would mean that Janet Fraser
would be quite old when Janet McDonald was born. I have my doubts about this being the true marriage because of this.
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I finally found a way to get back to you. Apparently i cannot send a PM until I have made 3 posts, so I guess this is number 2! I really would appreciate sharing info with you, although I recognize the fact that I may have little of value to offer. Most of my info concerns Sarah and Donald's descendants, but I'm happy to share what I have. While the Kennedy name occupies one side of my dad's lineage, the McKinnon name shows up on both. Please reply at your earliest convenience....I like the idea of locating a new relative
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Hi Willow7,
Could you tell me where Lilac Cottage is located in Fort Augustus, I am a grand-daughter of Archibald Stoddart - son of William & Mary. (Archibald immigrated to Australia not long after his brother Simon approx.1910)
I visited Fort Augustus last year but did not have any details on Lilac Cottage or where to find it.
Thank you, Debra (Australia)
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Hi Debra send me a pm
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Hi Willow7,
My connection to William Stoddart & Mary Kennedy is through my mother who's father was
Archibald Stoddart - son of William & Mary of Fort Augustus married 1870.
I cannot use the PM function yet as I need to make 3 posts first.
Regards, Deb
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Hiya where are you in Australia? Hopefully this will be your 3 post. Was talking to the last member of Archibald's children.
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My mother is a kennedy from Northern Ireland. Her kennedys are from Stewartstown county Tyrone N.ireland. Interestingly , her DNA story on Ancestry shows direct emigration from Fort Agustus , Scotland to Stewartstown. I was amazed at this , as ancestry managed to pinpoint the exact village in northern Ireland my kennedys where from.
Now I know , the DNA story may be telling me about other ancestry that emigrated from fort agustus , but I have a very good feeling that it is my kennedy line. Maybe I am a descendant of the Archibald Kennedy you speak off. Did any of your kennedys moved to northern Ireland? Have any of you done your Ancestry DNA to see if we have any similar DNA?
Ive only managed to trace back my direct ancestor - John Kennedy born circa 1843. I would love to be able to trace my kennedys back to scotland , even if there is no paper trail.
Hope to here back from any of you!
regards
john