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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Wexford => Topic started by: mandypea on Saturday 18 June 11 19:49 BST (UK)
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Does anyone know of a mental institution in Enniscorthy around the 1920's up to maybe the 1960's? What was it called?and whereabouts in Enniscorthy district was it? thanks Mandy
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Under Enniscorthy Workhouse website I found this line- "Enniscorthy was also the home of the Wexford County Lunatic Asylum, situated on the opposite bank of the River Slaney."
http://www.workhouses.org.uk/Enniscorthy/
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I have just received some interesting information from another rootschat member, St SENENS is the 'mental' hospital in Enniscorthy,
thanks
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The Hospital is called St Senan Psychiatic Hospital and its still a Hopsital but it not currently taking any new admissions.
'Enniscorthy District Lunatic Asylum for the Insane Poor of Mind' opened in 1868. Suggestions that the design drawings were originally intended for a colonial army barracks at Pretoria in South Africa
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The Hospital is called St Senan Psychiatic Hospital and its still a Hopsital but it not currently taking any new admissions.
'Enniscorthy District Lunatic Asylum for the Insane Poor of Mind' opened in 1868. Suggestions that the design drawings were originally intended for a colonial army barracks at Pretoria in South Africa
http://static.panoramio.com/photos/original/25406452.jpg
http://www.goreyguardian.ie/multimedia/archive/00613/4eb90234-fedc-4295-_613079c.jpg
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Thanks Tomahurra, Mandy
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Hi,
Ancestry's section 'The Lawrence Collection of Photographs' (1870-1910) has this picture of an Asylum at Enniscorthy - might by the same one you're thinking of? I'm not sure how clear the writing will come out, but at the bottom, it has written on it 'Lunatic Asylum, Enniscorthy'.
Moderator comment: image removed since it is likely to be covered by some restrictions on use by Ancestry and therefore should not be posted here.
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Thank you for this, Tamsin, I appreciate it!
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Tasmin what a great photo
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Similar photos available online without subscription from the National Library at http://catalogue.nli.ie/
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Is there anywhere that I can access records for Enniscorthy mental hospital, please?
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It would most likely depend on the date but as a general rule records less than 100 years old are unlikely to be available.
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http://www.enniscorthyguardian.ie/news/st-senans-142year-history-nears-its-end-2149752.html
PM
The Irish women's history reader
By Alan Hayes, Diane Urquhart
Partially free on google books, says that the records are held at St. Sennan's itself, in some cases. See p.102- 108 for a rather grim account of the hospital. 108 gives the records in a footnote.
PM
"Áine McCarthy has a strong connection with Enniscorthy and surrounds arising out of research she did for an MA dissertation into committal to what was then called Enniscorthy Lunatic Asylum (1916-1925), research that was published in Irishwomen’s History – A Reader. For a year she spent many hours in a little room in St. Senan’s hospital, looking through the old Victorian casebooks and admittance records, exploring why people – especially women were locked away, often for life, and what their lives were like in the asylum. The character Nora in Lovers’ Hollow is based on the case history of one of the inmates. "
http://www.enniscorthyecho.ie/news/mhaucwkfmh/
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Thanks to you both, it makes for interesting reading. I am actually hoping to find records of my gt grandfathers brother Matthew Lyons who apparently was a well known and very good runner. It seems that sometime after he was 'asked' to give up his running he was admitted to St Senens. I do not know Matthews date of birth but my gt grandfather was born in 1886, and I believe that Matthew also died in the asylum.
Mandy
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If he died in the asylum it should say so on his death register. I cant imagine any files are kept in the hospital itself as its a derelict building.
I'm also trying to find information on a peter edwards who worked and died there in the 20s and his mother annie oneill, so if you find any records please come back and let us know.
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They'd be Registered Enniscorty District regardless of what building they were in....
Name Matthew Lyons
Date of Death 1938
Group Registration ID 1780143
SR District/Reg Area Enniscorthy
Deceased Age at Death 54
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1938/04763/4277050.pdf
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/civil-search.jsp
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on tick Marriages etc etc....
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If he died in the asylum it should say so on his death register. I cant imagine any files are kept in the hospital itself as its a derelict building.
I'm also trying to find information on a peter edwards who worked and died there in the 20s and his mother annie oneill, so if you find any records please come back and let us know.
Death results for edwards of Enniscorthy
LINK http://www.rootschat.com/links/01osq/
Death of Peter Edward in 1922
Group Registration ID 3282530
SR District/Reg Area Enniscorthy
Deceased Age at Death 31
might be yours but you can look for siblings etc
or do a search for Births by adjusting criteria as needed.
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All Civil Reg Birth, Marriage and Death results for lyons of Enniscorthy
LINK http://www.rootschat.com/links/01osr/
Any with Returns Page No don't have Images at moment but one can use LINK every few months to look for Updated ones.
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Hallmark, that is the peter in question, im trying to find out how he died and if indeed he was buried at the asylum.
Somebody told me the grave yard was moved but im not sure how true that is.
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He died of TB.
If you click on the LINK you will get all for that Surname....click on his name and you can get Death Cert which is Free.
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Thank you, i didnt notice that before.
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This LINK http://www.rootschat.com/links/01oss/ will get you all Civil Reg Birth, Marriage and Death results for edwards of Enniscorthy
Those with Returns Page No don't have Images at moment but you can use LINK every few months to look for Updated ones.
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Area covered by ENNISCORTY REG DISTRICT
https://www.swilson.info/regdistmap.php?gregdistid=72
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https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/en/civil-records/help/what-civil-records-are-on-line EXPLAINS YEARS ETC
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If you haven't used this website before... https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/civil-search.jsp
it is Irish Govt BDM website, you have to solve security Captcha and one can use Initials to sign in.....no sub or reg required! Certs are Free.
Safe website to use!
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http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Wexford/Edermine/Ballynaslaney/679268/
Annie died at above 1920
45
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1920/05121/4409216.pdf
with such a big family i doubt he was buried at the asylum
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I have used that site hallmark, its very good.
I know annie died in ballynaslaney, its just down the road from me.
I dont want to hijack this thread but ill try explain my situation as i cant figure out how to start a thread of my own.
Im trying to find my father inlaws father.
Annie oneill, was born annie edwards in ballynaslaney, married a british soldier named george william morris, had a child named william morris and george went to the boar war and died. She then married michael oneill and had 3 more kids in ballynaslaney. Family stories say after 1911 she left ballynaslaney as michael claimed one of the children wasnt his. When she returned she had another son who was alfred oneill, annie died soon after and alfred was enrolled in to school as alfred morris, he later had to marry however as alfred oneill but one year after he married he baptized all his children as morris.
To complicate it all further were told alfred was baptized alphonsus oneill.
So basically we dont know his name, dob or where he was born, its assumed to be england. I figure if i can pin point where annie oneill was those few years i might find him.
He was also suppose to be in the raf some time from 1939 onwards and have deserted but again ive no idea what name or anything he used.
Interesting fact, Alphonsus is the saint of redemption and the church in barntown not far from here is the church of alphonsus but im not having any luck getting their records.
So can anybody give me any possible tips or leads to maybe help solve this 40 year search for alfreds birth cert?
Thanks for reading.
Also annie had a sister called mary kate edwards that possibly left for england maybe annie stayed with her or possibly her first husbands family. I found a mary kate from wexford in an english 1911 census but cant confirm if its her.
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Yes, excellent site.
I purposely didn't post any Certs etc which allows you to browse through them all at your leisure, make new discoveries etc etc as it can be very enjoyable discovering new kin.
Did you find anything new??
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If you go to https://www.rootschat.com/forum/wexford/
you should see New Topic allowing you to start your thread.
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A pain in the face but have you tried a Search like this??
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/civil-search.jsp
Just add year range e.g. 1913 to 1914 or whatever
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As you are in 1900's have you tried
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/advanced-civil.jsp
trying a few combinations. Only need to enter a few bits.
e.g.
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Thank you hallmark, i have tried many variations of search names and terms. Ive located the entire edwards family and all of alfred oneills brothers and sisters but no alfred or alphonsus as of yet.
Family stories told by alfreds eldest brother william says they went to london to live and that william worked in the ford factory in dagenham but this cant be true as ford didnt open in dagenham till 1922. William himself is dead now so cant be questioned.
Do you know of any type passenger list between england and ireland between 1911 and 1920?
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1928 sorry, way to late.
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There is a book about Rose Quinn of Enniscorthy and its also
about St Senans. Title Restless Spirit: The Story of Rose Quinn.
It is set around the 1900’s and gave me insight into the culture of the times. I bought it because I had an aunt Rose whose mother was born Quinn and I was trying to find connection. It was through this book that I found my family.
This amazing building (St Senans) will become homes for people down the track as Ive been told they are to be renovated into luxurious apartments.
I finally found my family still living in the same place my Grandmother left from soon after the 1911 Census, to live and work in England.
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Previous comments deleted due to changes in earlier posts.
An interesting IT article on the role of RMSs at Lunatic Asylums in the following.
https://www.irishtimes.com/life-and-style/an-open-secret-ireland-s-lunatic-asylums-and-mental-hospitals-1.4786226 (https://www.irishtimes.com/life-and-style/an-open-secret-ireland-s-lunatic-asylums-and-mental-hospitals-1.4786226)
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I’m so sorry if this has offended you - that was never my intention. I was just quoting what was written about the book. I will edit my post.