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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Cork => Topic started by: shana1106 on Wednesday 22 June 11 13:14 BST (UK)
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Hi, I am new to Rootschat so please forgive any inexperience!
I am trying to find out any information regarding my husband's grandfather John Lehane and relatives. Apparently born in Kanturk, Co Cork in 1906, travelled to Wales at some point where he married Katherine Daley (b. 1913 Dowlais, Merthyr Tydfil) on 1st Dec 1934. Moved to Corby employed by steelworks, then moved to Kettering. Last heard of in London having left during 1960's. Had a brother called Denny(?) believed to have remained in Cork who had 13 children (?). Also had a sister possibly Molly who married and lived in Kanturk and who used to write to him. He was unable to read. Any information gratefully received. My father-in-law has assumed for some time that his father is no longer on this earth plane but would like to have closure on what actually happened to him and maybe get in touch with his family in Cork.
Best wishes Julie
The picture is of John Lehane with a next door neighbour and my father-in-law sitting on the step.
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Hi Julie welcome to rootschat.
The 1911 Ireland Census is free on line
http://www.census.nationalarchives.IE/search/
There is a few possibilities for your John Lehane in the Kanturk area.
Do you have his marriage record? This would be the best place to start, the Civil Registration Record would list his father. And the parish church record might list his mother and father.
Regards
Castlemcauliffe
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Hi many many thanks for that :) - I need to double check the certificate when I get home but my notes says that John's father was James and a farmer. There was one James who was a farmer on the census (I put Cork as the county) which seems pretty hopeful, but not sure how I can check further as the possible brother and sisters names aren't there which was a bit disappointing. Should I contact Merthyr for any possible extra details on the marriage record?
Any help gratefully appreciated.
J :)
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This is one possible family near Kanturk.
Molly usually a nickname for Mary.
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Cork/Coolclough/Dromalour/415448/
Perhaps Denis was not born by 1911.
Castlemcauliffe
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Dramalour is quiet near Kanturk
Castlemcauliffe
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James Lehane married Mary Sweeney in 1889 in Kanturk RC
They had a son Denis in 1890 in Kanturk RC
This is probably Denis with his father James in 1901 for some reason not with the mother but she was still alive
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Cork/Greenane/Ballintober/1148165/
This looks like Denis in 1911
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Cork/Greenane/Clash/416647/
The family had a daughter Margaret Lehane in 1893 Kanturk RC
This is the marriage of James Lehane and Mary Sweeney
Kanturk 30th Jan 1889 James Lehane Full Age Bachelor Labourer Kanturk son of Charles Lehane Labourer married Mary Sweeney Full Age Spinster Kanturk daughter of Denis Sweeney (deceased) Labourer witnesses: Daniel Drew and Hanora Shine Cel. D O'Mahony
Castlemcauliffe
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wow! thank you so much - so it is the right family! ;D Can I ask how/where you got the details of the marriage? So I guess from here I need to find members of the rest of the family to see whether anyone can remember him coming back to Ireland in the 60's -although I guess that is a shot in the dark. Are there any indexed records of deaths in Ireland? One school of thought is that he went to London for a while before returning to Ireland when he left the family in the 60's. Or is there any other avenue I could try?
Again, any help is gratefully received - I can't believe I didn't know about this site before! :)
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Its looks likely that this is correct family. I would advice you try confirm that John parents were James Lehane and Mary Sweeney from his marriage in UK.
There is a index of deaths in Ireland up to 1957 online.
As for the marriage I had that in my files I grew up in this area and have thousands of records collected over the years.
Castlemcauliffe
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Hello, I have just discovered this site and your posts by pure accident.
The John lehane you refer to is/was my father. He had 2 sons and 1 daughter
I hve been trying to trace his movements from when he left Corby in the late 60's I think. I have not really given it the time it obviously needs, but now I am retired and am now making a proper effort to find out what happened to him.
I fyou would be willing to give me any information I would be very gratefull and any information I can give you, you are welcome to have it
many thanks
jim lehane
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Re Lehan (Lehane, Leehan, Lyons) - My g-g-grandmother JULIA LEHAN was b. in County Cork circa 1825, city or parish unknown. Parents' names unknown. I'm sure she was catholic; on Sept. 15, 1849, she married JOHN CHINNERY, probably in County Cork. They went to Wales, where their four children were b. in the 1850s. The youngest, MICHAEL CHINNERY (b. 1858) would become my g-grandfather. JOHN CHINNERY d. in Wales circa 1858 and Julia subsequently emigrated to NYC with the four children, probably by 1865. She lived in Yonkers, Westchester County, NY, with the children. All of them worked in factories. I believe Julia died sometime between 1870 (when she appeared in the Yonkers, NY census) and 1876, when the City of Yonkers began keeping death records. She is buried in St. Mary's Cemetery, Yonkers, with her two children John and Catherine Chinnery. Does anyone have info on JULIA LEHAN CHINNERY's parents or siblings?
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My g-g-grandmother was Julia Lehane, born somewhere in County Cork, Ireland, ca. 1825. She married John Chinnery Sept. 15, 1849, place unknown, probably in a Catholic church in Cork. John Chinnery may have been Catholic OR Church of Ireland (Anglican). Julia was Catholic. Couple went to Wales, where their four children were born in the 1850s: James, Catherine, John and Michael (my g-grandfather). John died in Wales in 1858 and Julia subsequently emigrated to New York with her four children. There she lived in Yonkers, close to NYC. I found her in the 1870 census of Yonkers with the children but not in the 1880. I believe she died 1870 and 1876, when Yonkers began keeping death records. She is buried in St. Mary RC Cemetery, Yonkers, with her children John and Catherine. I have been unable to learn the names of the parents of John or Julia Lehane Chinnery nor whether they had siblings. Been searching for years. Please help if you can.
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in 1901 daniel drew the witness at the marriage is james next door neighbour age 64 in 1911 he is a visitor aged 74.
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witness no 2 hanora shine. just a possible connection ,1901 census gortateeboy boherboy cork ,
michael age 60 honora age 50 shine with a possible mother mary sweeney age 68 wrongly transcribed as daughter yet she's older than them all, then theres this baptism on irish genealogy but in kerry with a combination of all the names.
john shine bapt 28 jan 1872 son of michael shine and hanora sweeney, sponsors denis sweeney and margaret down.
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the name chinnery is not too common in cork those that appear on the 1901 census are mainly church of ireland. there are a few chinnery's on the irish prison register at family search.org around the right time period for yours wether this would be any help in nailing down an area of residence i'm not sure.
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this might be john lehane's brother charlie.from family search.
birth kanturk apr june 1901 charles lehane vol 5 page 201
marriage kanturk jan march 1925 vol 5 page 141
death kanturk 1949 age 48.
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his sister?
birth kanturk july sep 1898 hanora lehane vol 5 page 202
marriage kanturk oct dec 1919 nora lehane vol5 page 169.
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possables for denis lehane
birth kanturk oct dec 1890 vol 5 page 198
marriage kanturk apr june 1923 vol 5 page 168.