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Title: (Sutton) workhouse
Post by: ozdude on Friday 24 June 11 06:38 BST (UK)
Would anyone be able to point me in the right direction, I need information on a workhouse.  :-[

I am trying to find a fella by the name of John Knight b.abt. 1835 he was apparently
In the (Sutton) workhouse in 1841 with his mother Mary b.abt 1811

Any help with this would be most welcome   :)
Title: Re: (Sutton) workhouse
Post by: Ruskie on Friday 24 June 11 07:14 BST (UK)
You may find some information about the workhouse here:
www.workhouses.org.uk

Do you have John and Mary in the workhouse in the 1841 census? If not, would you like me to try to find them? (where were they born?)

Also, in which Sutton is the workhouse located? There are a lot of Mary Knights b 1811 on the 1841 census, so I need a bit more information to narrow her down.
Title: Re: (Sutton) workhouse
Post by: ozdude on Friday 24 June 11 07:45 BST (UK)
Hi Ruskie

Thanks for the offer… :)  I have found them on the 1841 census with about 80 other people
But i'm a bit confused, never came across anyone in a workhouse before.

 I had the information on the Sutton workhouse from another source just don’t know where or what it is…  :( this workhouse business is all new to me

1881 census
Mary Knight
Age:   30
abt 1811
Lancashire, England
Prescot
West Derby   
Lancashire
England



Registration district:   Prescot
Sub-registration district:   St Helen
Neighbors:   View others on page
Piece:   517
Book:   6
Folio:   38
Page Number:   4


Cheers


BTW...thanks for the LInk  :)
Title: Re: (Sutton) workhouse
Post by: Ruskie on Friday 24 June 11 07:49 BST (UK)
OK, I found them in "Workhouse in Sutton". Ref is HO107/517/38/4. The only other thing it tells you is that they were both born in the County of Lancashire.

There is mention of it on the link I provided above - look under Lancashire, then Prescot.
Title: Re: (Sutton) workhouse
Post by: ozdude on Friday 24 June 11 07:59 BST (UK)
Thanks for that Ruskie… :)
I was not sure what a work house was   :-[  thanks for that as well


Cheers
Title: Re: (Sutton) workhouse
Post by: Ruskie on Friday 24 June 11 08:08 BST (UK)
That link should provide you with loads of information about Workhouses.

You might have to do a bit of detective work to find out why they ended up there.

Do you know who Mary married? Have you found them in later censuses?
Title: Re: (Sutton) workhouse
Post by: ozdude on Friday 24 June 11 10:38 BST (UK)

Ruskie,

No I haven’t found any mention of what transpired after ?

and yes i have a long way to go


Cheers

George
Title: Re: (Sutton) workhouse
Post by: Seoras on Friday 24 June 11 11:15 BST (UK)
Might be worth posting on the Lancashire board Ozdude.Someone there may know more about it..You will have to change the title of your post though,

George.
Title: Re: (Sutton) workhouse
Post by: Mark1973 on Friday 24 June 11 14:46 BST (UK)
* Ignore, wrong info, was thinking surrey :)
Title: Re: (Sutton) workhouse
Post by: Ruskie on Saturday 25 June 11 12:35 BST (UK)
I agree with George. Ask a moderator to move this to the Lancs board - there's bound to be someone there who can help you.
Title: Re: (Sutton) workhouse
Post by: BashLad on Saturday 25 June 11 15:19 BST (UK)
Sutton workhouse was at Marshall's Cross where new street crosses the railway line near Lea Green Station.

On the 1851 census (Class: HO107; Piece: 2194; Folio: 111; Page: 20) you've got a John Knight, born at Bold ancestry transcribed it as Wold, who was a tailor's apprentice (or something-quite unclear) living somewhere at Widnes with a boss who is a tailor and a journeyman tailor. So perhaps the boss guy got his apprentices out of the workhouse - very common in the period (cheap labour).

Bold is about a mile from sutton workhouse (as the crow flies).

And on Lanopc there is this entry:

John Knight baptised 2 February 1836 at St Wilfrid, Farnworth near Prescot. Son of Mary Knight (single woman) living at Bold.

So that's where I'd put my money.

(This looks like him in 1861:Class: RG9; Piece: 2598; Folio: 58; Page: 4)