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On my gr-grandfathers jottings of the family tree, right at the very top he has "James Wainwright, last of the wain wrights" and a note that he had 15 children.
We have traced the family with certainty to Thomas bn approx 1726 who married in Darfield in 1755
according to the tree, Thomas would be one of the 15 children of James, but i suspect he might be the son of Zacharias of Royston
Has anyone come across a James Wainwright who fathered 15 children (including a Thomas and a William) in the Royston / Darfield / Tankersley areas?
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If they all had the same mother, she needs a medal. :o
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Hi
I have just checked a transcription of baptisms at Royston and there are 2 Thomas' baptised in the period you are researching:
6 Jan 1727 Thomas son of Zacharius from Carleton
19 Jan 1729 Thomas son of Thomas from Carleton
Could find no children baptised with a Father named as James.
Peramar
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Hi
I have just checked a transcription of baptisms at Royston and there are 2 Thomas' baptised in the period you are researching:
6 Jan 1727 Thomas son of Zacharius from Carleton
19 Jan 1729 Thomas son of Thomas from Carleton
Could find no children baptised with a Father named as James.
Peramar
It the name a Zach appears in one of James 15 kids. ' Wills ' of Dads Zacharius or Thomas sr! maybe
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I'm not sure of exactly where the family came from before my Thomas married Anne Taylor in Darfield in 1755. They later moved to Piley and they were buried at Tankersley.
The notes i have suggest that he is one of 15 children of a James
I suspect he had a brother William
checking various on-line sites gave Zacharias of Royston as the father of a Thomas & a William with the correct birthdates, hence my suspicion (and so far no more than that) that they are connected. Zacharias certainly isnt a name that has been passed down -- plenty of Thomases, Johns, Williams tho
So far i havent been able to track down a will of any of them to confirm/reject my suspcions
So i am on the look out for a James, a wagon-builder, with 15 children somewhere in the area
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The 1672 Hearth Tax for Darfield has a Mr Wainwright paying for 9 hearths, obviously a very wealthy man. Have you tried investigating him as a relative of your James?
I have a burial for a Mr Robert Wainwright of Darfield, 11 Sep 1683 so perhaps he was the one mentioned above. Unfortunately I do not have any Darfield baptisms after 1684.
Stu
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sounds like something to follow up
Theres a marr in Royston of Mr Robert Wainwright of Middlewood Hall in the parish of Darfield to (i think) Jane Ashton of Monks Bretton on July 10 1675 who is possibly the same one. Middlewood Hall sounds like it might be big enough to have 9 taxable hearths.
Just need to find the "missing link"
The Darfield registers dont seem to be included in the West Yorkshire collection on Ancestry :(
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CM/972 1744
These documents are held at Sheffield Archives
Contents:
Thomas Wainwright, pltff. v. John Green and Lydia his wife, deforcs. 8 messuages, 4 cottages, 2 shops, 4 gardens, 4 orchards, 200 acres of land, 200 acres of meadow, 200 acres pasture, 10 acres of wood etc. in Thurlstone, Langsett, Midhop and Ecclesfield for Ł600. In 15 days from St. Martin.
Former reference: B7 b31.
CM/971 1 Oct 1744
These documents are held at Sheffield Archives
Contents:
John Green of Smallshaw and Lydia his wife (sister and heir of Emer Rich of Smallshaw), Thomas Wainwright of Royston, George Walker the younger of Hunshelf and Nicholas Stead of Dongworth agree that the fine to be levied of the messuage in Thurlstone called Smallshaw farm, several messuages in Langsett and a messuage at High Green in Ecclesfield shall be to stated uses.
Former reference: B7 b31.
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HIGHAM HILL IS NORTH WEST OF BARNSLEY & ROYSTONE
D37 M/T1058 1764
These documents are held at Derbyshire Record Office
Contents:
Cottages on Ainmoor:
Articles of agreement made between Sarah Wainwright of Higham Hill widow, and relict of James Wainwright, and Samuel Wainwright of the same place, her son, for the sale of the real and personal estate of James, in consideration of Samuel paying his mother 1s 6d weekly for life, and also discharging the expenses of her funeral. Dated 15 May
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http://www.linleyfh.com/oursecondsite-p/p665.htm
quote from link
In 1741 Abbots Birk farm which Lydia had inherited from her father and his father, belonged to John Greene of Smallshaw and was leased to James Wainwright, son of Jeremiah Wainwright.................Thomas Wainwright of Royston, George Walker the younger of Hunshelf and Nicholas Stead of Dongworth agree that the fine to be levied of the messuage in Thurlstone called Smallshaw farm
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Jacobus, Jakub, Jakób, Jakob, Jacob, Zachob, Jaroslaus, Jarosław .... Zacharias, Zacomyah , Zachobus -Jeremiah
= James. Y or Z used Yeremyah- Zeremyah -Z e m /Zacharias= later old english-Zac- Jac -J a m
http://www.remnantofyhwh.com/Backup%20of%20No%20J%20in%20Hebrew.htm
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There's an online digital library and searching for "Yorkshire Registers" brings up three pages of books of old church records. I haven't looked to see which diocese included Darfield and nearby villages but I did search one marriage book for "Wainright" and all I can say is "good luck, you'll need it" - solely because the spelling of the surname are many and varied! :-
http://www.archive.org/search.php?query=Yorkshire%20registers%20AND%20mediatype%3Atexts
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thanks for all your helpfull finds!
Gives me some new directions to pursue :)
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I wonder if anyone has any more on the Wainwrights, please?
I can offer that Thomas Wainwright, gent., of Middlewood, York wrote his will 8th April 1659 and it was proved 11th August 1665. He had a son called Thomas who died within his father's lifetime probably having had, by his wife Ann, Robert Wainwright, gent. of Middlewood Hall, Darfield. This Robert Wainwright married Jane Ashton, daughter of Robert Ashton of Bradway by his wife Dorothy, 6th daughter of Robert Wood of Monk Bretton. Robert died 11/9/1683 and Jane was buried 31/3/1745, aged 99. Robert's will was dated 1st September 1683 and in it he mentions his wife, Jane, his father-in-law Mr. Robert Ashton, his uncle Mr. Henry Wood, his 3 daughters: Dorothy, Jane & Sarah, his sister Ann Usher, his nephew Thomas Ludlam and his heirs, his neice Sarah Law, his sister Olive Rook. Dorothy Wainwright was baptised 16/9/1675, Jane was baptised 26/1/1679 and Sarah 7/6/1681. The youngest daughter, Sarah, married (on 16th April 1711) Rev. William Greenwood, Vicar of Darfield. The eldest daughter, Dorothy, married Will Green (d.1731) of Leversage Hall on 18th July 1695 and was great-grandmother to Thomas Ashton Bulkeley of Hill-Top House in the couty of Derby (see Burke's Commoners) who was christened on 12th July 1744 at Whittington, near Chesterfield, in the presence of the said Dorothy Green and her mother, Mrs. Jane Wainwright, the infant's great-great-grandmother.
It would appear that after the death of Robert Wainwright in 1683, his widow's family moved in with her at Middlewood Hall as Thomas, son of Robert Ashton, was born at Middlewood Hall in 1688, Robert Ashton was designated as of Middlewood Hall when he was buried 12th February 1716.
Middlewood Hall was then sold to the Walker family and then later to Hon. Henry Saville, only surviving brother of the Earl of Mexborough.
I also have a note that says George Wainwright married Agnes Elame on 28/8/1632, but nothing to confirm a family relationship to the above.
I would love to add more to this if anyone can help, please?
Many thanks,
Caspar
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That Wainwright family is certainly in the right area to be connected to mine -- but there is a gap of a couple of generations or so before my earliest confirmed ancestor -- Thomas born c 1726
From what you say, it sounds like Robert only had daughters, not sons so his direct Wainwright line died out with him. Do you know if he had any brothers that could have continued the line downwards to my Thomas?
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I have posted all the info that I have and I am afraid I do not know of any siblings at any of the generations that I have shown
However I am hoping that someone else out there will read these postings and give us all an extra clue.
Or maybe you will strike gold sometime and be able to post back? Have you had any luck with those marriage registers?
Many thanks,
Caspar
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Will of Thomas Wainwrights senior:
8/4/1659 Thomas Wainwright of Middlewood, York, gent – my grandchild Robert W son & heir of my son Thomas dec’d, wife Ann exix, my two grandchildren Ann W & Ann Senier, Sarah W & Olive W my grandchildren, Magdalen S my grandchild, Thomas & John S my grandchildren, son-in-law Thomas Senier, Mr Samuel W of The Haugh [Greasbro], Mr Green of Cawthorpe parish & Mr George Ellis of Brampton my kinsmen supervisors – proved 11/8/1665
Many thanks,
Caspar
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Ref. Thomas Wainwright and his will (1/9/1683)
His sister Ann Usher looks like the lady marrying Stephen Ludlam in Barnsley on 17th May 1667. Stephen was a mercer and was buried in Tankersley on 10/1/1677-8. It looks like Ann remarried John Usher on 6/6/1680 at St Mary's, Barnsley. That provides the link to Thomas Ludlam, the nephew, who, incidentally, died young and was buried 26/1/1689-90 at St Mary's.
The links to other local families are useful. Of interest is the mention of Olive Rook, sister of Thomas. Olive married John Rouke in Darfield on 8/2/1671-2. A Daniel Rooke, gent. of Barnsley, was married to Sarah Ludlam (4/2/1691-2 Worsbrough) but there is a link to the Senior family also. A Daniel Rooke, perhaps the same man, seems to have married a Sarah Senior - marriage record yet to be found - but seemingly sister of Magdalen etc.. He is referred to as 'brother' to John and Thomas Senior in the 1690s. Both Senior and Ludlam are to be found as middle names in Daniel's descendants (John Senior Rooke and Richard Ludlam Rooke).
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Thank you very much for your post - a great help.
I am attaching a (very much) work-in-progress pedigree for this family in the hope that it will produce more comment and contribution. I must emphasise that work-in-progress means subject to confirmation and change, so please don't take it as gospel, just a good guide at the moment.
Also for the Parish Records for Darfield please see http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/WRY/Darfield and scroll down to the bottom.
Many thanks,
Caspar
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Also following on from Rabuser's post, Daniel Rooke had a son Daniel Rooke baptised as St. Mary's Barnsley 18/4/1689. There is another entry for a baptism on 6/3/1712 for another Daniel Rooke, also son of a Daniel Rooke, also at St. Mary's, Barnsley.
I see John Senior Rooke baptised 9/4/1758 at Silkstone, son of William Rooke, and then 13/4/1782 married at York to Mary Walker, and then buried 20/9/1835 at Dronfield, Derbyshire.
I also see a John Senior Rooke married at St. Mary, Lambeth to Eliza Susanna Collins on 26/7/1813 and then died in 1846 at Bethnal Green.
I see Richard Ludlam Rooke baptised 24/3/1823 at St. Peter's, Leeds, son of Edward & Elizabeth Rooke, and then living with his parents at the 1851 census and then with his siblings at Potter Newton at the 1871 census. Confusingly I see a death of a Richard Ludlam Rooke in Leeds in 1838, so I presume the name was used more than once.
Presumably this is all familiar, but I do wonder about how or if Daniel connects to Olive Wainwright who married John Rooke? And to the Olive Wainwright of the previous generation who married Thomas Senier/Senyar/Senior?
I hope there is more to share.
Caspar
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Thanks for the work-in-progress, Caspar.
Have you seen the stemma of part of the Rooke family in Jackson's History of Barnsley (1858)? He has John Rooke, gent. of Barnsley married to Olive (no surname given). He has Olive dying in 1721 aged 70, which fits with your baptism date. Assuming that all or most of Jackson's genealogy of the Rookes is valid, other branches are quite complex to unravel with confidence - more later.
The will of Stephen Ludlam mentions the following key people.
Stephen Ludlam, mercer of Barnsley dated 5/1/1675
Sons Thomas and John
Daughters Sarah and Ann
Brother (in-law) Robert Wainwright, gent. and John Smith
Stephen, son of Nicholas Ludlam, my brother
Wife Ann
You're probably aware of this but there are a number of Wainwright wills held at the Borthwick that are of possible relevance to your research.
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There are several John and Daniel Rookes amongst the Rookes of South Yorkshire. Daniel Rooke, the ancestor of John Senior Rooke and Richard Ludlam, is not listed on Jackson's stemma. He may be a brother of the John that married Olive but I have no way of demonstrating that, at present. As often, wills are useful. The microfilm copy of Daniel's will (Borthwick) is very hard to read in places but provides the following details:
Will of Daniel Rooke Proved 30/5/1699
Son John
Daughters Ann, Elizabeth, [Rebeckah?]
Wife Sarah
Brothers John Rooke & John Senior executors
Witness John Ludlam
The basic line of descent is Daniel - John - William - John Senior & Richard Ludlam and others. A partial family tree of this branch and details on various land transactions can be found via Sheffield Archives.
John Senior Rooke is another interesting subject! An investigation into the heirs of John Senior Rooke took place in the early 1860s. A son, John Senior Rooke, was recorded as a beneficiary in John Senior’s will but his sister Jane had been adamant that only two daughters had been born of his marriage and that he had never married again. He was described as a womaniser who deserted his wife and was disapproved of by Jane.
John Senior Rooke moved to Dronfield around 1832 and managed a public house. He was stated to have lived with a woman, Mrs Waters, whom he considered to be his wife. Despite his sister's disapproval he was her heir and executor when she died.
The investigation identified John Senior Rooke the younger as living on Hackney Road, London, dying on 24th May 1846 and being buried in Bethnal Green. He was said to have died intestate and left a daughter. The investigators believed him to have been an illegitimate child, perhaps of the aforesaid Elizabeth Waters, a servant or housekeeper. The two legitimate daughters were both dead by the time of the investigation. The investigators also sought out one Thomas Rooke, silversmith, in Sheffield but never found him - long dead. They don't seem to have been aware of the connection to Richard Ludlam Rooke (dead in 1838) and his living family in Leeds.
The marriage for John Senior Rooke & Eliza Susannah Collins that is recorded on 26/7/1813 at St Mary’s, Lambeth is presumably for our miscreant. If so, it seems likely to have been bigamous.
The 1841 census reveals John living on Hackney Road with three children, Thomas, Maria and [Robert], aged 8, 6 and 3 respectively. No wife is listed.
Papers on the investigation can be found at Sheffield Archives.
Originally, I was researching the Ludlams of South Yorkshire (I believe I've established a link between the Tankersley / Wortley / Barnsley Ludlams and those in Tetney, Lincs. in the eighteenth century, via Stephen Ludlam - left Hemsworth and found his way to Tetney as vicar d1722) but I've been drawn in by the links between Ludlam, Rooke, Senior and others as I've done more digging. The Barnsley Ludlams were mercers and look to have been quite wealthy: the Rookes seem to have been significant beneficiaries via Ann Ludlam of Pontefract in 1763.
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Abstract of names from two Wainwright wills, held at the Borthwick. There are a few others, often not in great condition on microfilm, that I'll try to have a look at sometime.
Abstracted names from the will of Thomas Wainwright yeoman of Scholes dated 22/11/1663.
Wife Anne
Brother Henry
Children John, Joseph, Henry, Hanna, Sara, Susanna and Elizabeth
William Caxton, nephew
Houses etc. in Bolsover to son John
Will of William Wainwright of Cadeby, husbandman, dated 10/4/1664.
Son George
Katherine Bossevill grandchild
Son-in-law William […]forth and Mary his wife
G[…] wife of Thomas Bossevill
John Pinder upon his marriage with my daughter
Thomas Sykes & William Birkes witnesses