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I am trying to find information on Catherine McKechnie who married John Grant or Ferguson.
I know they went by the name Grant. However their son John did not change his name from Ferguson to Grant until 1937.
Catherine and John had the following children that I know of. John, William, Donald and Margaret.
John(their son) was born in 1879. He married Margaret Stella Mundell in July 1906.
I do not know the reason for the name change.
Thanks for any help
Abydos
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Place?
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Sorry I forgot to say where :-[
Inverness Scotland I believe.
Thanks
Abydos
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Hi Abydos
Do you have Catherine and John on any of the censuses and where did you get the Ferguson name change from?
On son John's marriage cert in 1906 (Glasgow), they are all down as Grant (Catherine m.s. McKechnie). John Snr was a distillery worker.
The only family that I've found that fits this in 1891 is in Glasgow:
486 N Keppoch Hill road, Barony, Glasgow
District 644/6 ED 76 Page 7
John Grant, 46, Distillery Labourer, b. Kilchoan, Argyll
Catherine, 35, b. Bowmore, Argyll
Maggie, 14,
John, 12
Catherine, 10
Donald, 6
Mary, 4
Ann, 2
Alexander Campbell, lodger, 20, distillery labourer, b. Bowmore
Norman Campbell, lodger,17 -do-, b. -do-
Elspie Campbell, lodger, 13, b. -do-
Grant children all born Glasgow
and in 1901
33 Bardowie Street, Maryhill, Glasgow
District 622/1 ED 29 Page 3
John Grant, 60, labourer in Distillery, b. Islay, Argyll
Catherine, 48, b. -do-
John, 22, stillman in Distillery
Kate, 20, cotton weaver
Donald, 16, labourer in distillery
Mary, 14, cotton weaver
Annie, 12
Willie, 9
All children b,. Glasgow
I can't find a marriage between a Grant or Ferguson and McKechnie at the moment.
gnu :-\
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I'm just trying to get closer to John and Catherine - no marriage found so far and with children b. Glasgow, it's difficult to pinpoint births. I don't see variations of Catherine McKechnie b. circa 1855 Islay or Bowmore or Argyll on any of the pre-1881 censuses
When/where did John , junior, die? I'm wondering if the mother's maiden surname on his marriage cert was wrong.
I'm having difficulties finding any sib who might be a guide.
1881
530 New Keppoch Hill Road, Barony, Glasgow
District 644/6 ED 74 Page 13
John Grant, 37, labourer, b. Isay, Argyll
Catherine, 27, b. -do-
Maggie, 4
John, 2
Catherine, 2 months
Robert Foye, lodger, 19, steam crane driver, b. Ireland
Children b. Glasgow.
1871
104 Craighall Rd, Maryhill, Glasgow
District 622/1 ED 1a page 34
William Grant, 49, labourer (distillery), b. Rossshire
John, 25, -do- , b. Islay
Ann, 23, dressmaker, b. -do-
Mary, 20, mill worker, b. -do-
Hector, 17, saw doctor, b. -do-
Williamina, 11, b. -do-
Archd, 6, b.-do-
Catherine, 4, b. Glasgow
1861
Port Charlotte, Kilchoman, Islay, Argyll
District 540 ED 6 page 22
William Grant, 41, ag lab, b. Gairloch, Rossshire
Catherine, 37, b. Bowmore (Islay)
John, 19, Ag lab. b. -do-
Mary, 10, b. Kilchoman
Hector, 8, b. -do-
Wlina, 3, b. -do-
William, 4 months. b. do-
gnu
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Hi gnu
I have tried to find them in the census. I ones I found match yours.
District 644/6 Ed 74 page 13 and District 622/1 ED 29 page 3
I am not sure if it is right I only know of john, William, Donald and Margaret.
My mom remembers seeing Johns birth cert and it read Ferguson but she was young and never asked about it.
My grandfather (John) didn't change his name until 1937. At this point all his children are born. Some even married. John passed away July 19, 1964 in Belleville, Ontario Canada
I am attaching wedding cert. birth cert. and the leagal papers for the name change.
Thanks again for any help you can give.
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abydos
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Hi gnu
I am having trouble sending the rest. My son is coming tomorrow and said he would try it for me.
abydos
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Hi gnu
I am having trouble sending the rest. My son is coming tomorrow and said he would try it for me.
abydos
You are only allowed to post a small portion of a certificate for deciphering purposes and I suspect the copyright editor will remove the above certificate.
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Hi abydos
Just started to relook at your problem and I've found something that might be of interest re the Ferguson change.
I note that one of the witnesses on John Grant's and Margaret Mundell's marriage cert in 1906 was a Janet Ferguson Mundell. I presume she might have been Margaret's sister and John's brother Donald Grant was the other witness.
Just wondering if that's where the Ferguson came from :-\
From what you've sent me it would appear that John went by Ferguson in Ontario but Grant on his marriage cert and daughter's birth cert :-\
When did Donald and John emmigrate to Canada?
gnu
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Hi again
I was going to just send you this by e-mail but thought that I'd put it up for others who might be trying to help or who may come later ~
I still don't see how John took the name Furguson prior to 1937. On everything that I've found so far, in Scotland and Ontario, he is down as Grant. Are you sure that the John on the name change document was him?
The Ferguson that I've mentioned comes from Margaret Mundell's mother's mother who was a Janet Ferguson when she married.
On Catherine's death cert, 1924, Belleville, her parents are given as John McCaterane and Mary (DoB 8 July 1856) and John's as John Grant and Catherine McEacheron (DoB Nov 14 1846, Inverness) I think that their son, William, John jnr's brother, might have got the info a bit mixed up!
John's marriage 1906 - Catherine's maiden surname is McKechnie
Donald's marriage cert 1913 - Catherine's maiden surname looks like McKetherian
William's marriage cert 1915 - Catherine's maiden surname looks like McEatherian
Hector, the nephew, who is with John and Catherine in Thurlow in 1911 ((Thurlow, Hastings East, Ontario - Dist 79, Sub-D 19, Page 8, Family 80) is with his parents in Glasgow in 1901
1901
144 Graeme Street, Glasgow
644/5 27 14
Hector Grant, 46, saw maker, b. Islay, Argyll
Annie, 43, b. Tollcross, Lanarkshire
Jeanie, 22, blouse maker (?), b. Tollcross
William, 20, saw maker, b. England
Kate, 16, blouse finisher(?), b. Tollcross
Hector, 16, saw maker, b. England
Thomas, 4, b. Glasgow
(This family in Barrow in Furness in 1881 RG11/4289/22/42. Some info is slightly out but it certainly looks like them with Jeanie down as Ganey)
Hector, snr, matches the Hector who is on the 1861 and 1871 (previously mentioned - Reply # 4) in Kilchoman and then Maryhill, Glasgow.
I'll keep trying to find anything else but the trail is look a bit 'bricky' for Catherine at the moment. Do you have details of John's sisters' marriages - Maggie, Kate, Mary, Annie ?
gnu
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Hector Grant left Glasgow for Montreal (en route for Belleville) on 14 July 1910 on bard the Ionian. He is down as a saw maker, aged 25, single.
On his marriage cert 1914 (wrongly indexed as aged 22 but actually 32 in the body of the entry) he is down as born Barrow in Furness, England (as the 1881 census) but religion is Roman Catholic - cf. Prebyterian on the 1911.
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:D
Just found this:
The surname of McKECHNIE is MacEacharna in Scottish Gaelic
http://www.4crests.com/mckechnie-coat-of-arms.html
So we now have to look for this surname :) :) :)
gnu
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:D
Found a marriage on the OPRs that might well fit for Catherine's parents:
4 March 1830 - Bowmore, Argyll
John Maceachern and Mary MacArthur
gnu
Added - John from Bowmore and Mary from Kilchattan
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According to Hector Grant snr's marriage cert in 1877, Shettleston, Hector's mother was Catherine, maiden surname, Ferguson. Father was William Grant, This is confirmed by the birth entry for William Grant (14 Nov 1860, Kilchoman)
I think that William got the info really wrong on John and Catherine's death entries in 1924, Belleville!
Also, given that William said his father was b. Inverness when all info points to Islay, maybe this thread is really a bit too far North ;D
gnu
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Hello! Catherine McKechnie & John Grant (aka Ferguson) are my Great-Grandparents.
Would like to make contact with those researching Catherine McKechnie & John Grant.
Haven't been able to find a birth/baptism for Catherine due to the spelling of her surname. Apparently, there are over 200 name variations of the surname MacEACHARNA.
Cheers.
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Hi! Catherine Ferguson & John Grant are my Great-Grandparents.
Can you please tell me if/how you are related?
Are you a descendent of John their son?
Their daughter Margaret is my Grandmother.
Great-Grandfather used the surname FERGUSON back in Scotland but I don't know why. Sorry I can't help with that.
Cheers
I am trying to find information on Catherine McKechnie who married John Grant or Ferguson.
I know they went by the name Grant. However their son John did not change his name from Ferguson to Grant until 1937.
Catherine and John had the following children that I know of. John, William, Donald and Margaret.
John(their son) was born in 1879. He married Margaret Stella Mundell in July 1906.
I do not know the reason for the name change.
Thanks for any help
Abydos
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:D
Found a marriage on the OPRs that might well fit for Catherine's parents:
4 March 1830 - Bowmore, Argyll
John Maceachern and Mary MacArthur
gnu
Added - John from Bowmore and Mary from Kilchattan
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Maggie Grant, age 14 on the 1891 census is my Grandmother.
Hi Abydos
Do you have Catherine and John on any of the censuses and where did you get the Ferguson name change from?
On son John's marriage cert in 1906 (Glasgow), they are all down as Grant (Catherine m.s. McKechnie). John Snr was a distillery worker.
The only family that I've found that fits this in 1891 is in Glasgow:
486 N Keppoch Hill road, Barony, Glasgow
District 644/6 ED 76 Page 7
John Grant, 46, Distillery Labourer, b. Kilchoan, Argyll
Catherine, 35, b. Bowmore, Argyll
Maggie, 14,
John, 12
Catherine, 10
Donald, 6
Mary, 4
Ann, 2
Alexander Campbell, lodger, 20, distillery labourer, b. Bowmore
Norman Campbell, lodger,17 -do-, b. -do-
Elspie Campbell, lodger, 13, b. -do-
Grant children all born Glasgow
and in 1901
33 Bardowie Street, Maryhill, Glasgow
District 622/1 ED 29 Page 3
John Grant, 60, labourer in Distillery, b. Islay, Argyll
Catherine, 48, b. -do-
John, 22, stillman in Distillery
Kate, 20, cotton weaver
Donald, 16, labourer in distillery
Mary, 14, cotton weaver
Annie, 12
Willie, 9
All children b,. Glasgow
I can't find a marriage between a Grant or Ferguson and McKechnie at the moment.
gnu :-\
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Hi gnu
Sorry. Some how I think I missed this message.
John Grant(Ferguson) and Catherine McKechnie married under the name of Ferguson.
The census you have are the sameones I am using.
I have a copy of John and Catherine's weddding cert.
I also have a copy of the legal papers for the name change from Ferguson to Grant.
I also have birth cert. for some of the siblings.
I also have a copy of John and catherine's death cert.
I am so sorry it has taking me so long to get back to you.
abydos
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Hi :)
I know you have these docs because you sent me them last summer.
I think that it's CanuckinCanada who's trying to contact you and has quoted some of my older postings that you'd already seen, so it looks as if I've reposted!!
gnu
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My name is Melissa and I am from Belleville, Ontario where Donald, John and William lived. I am the great granddaughter of Donald Grant.
I would love to have the information outlined below as I too am trying to trace back the family. Are you able to email them to me? Thanks!
Hi gnu
Sorry. Some how I think I missed this message.
John Grant(Ferguson) and Catherine McKechnie married under the name of Ferguson.
The census you have are the sameones I am using.
I have a copy of John and Catherine's weddding cert.
I also have a copy of the legal papers for the name change from Ferguson to Grant.
I also have birth cert. for some of the siblings.
I also have a copy of John and catherine's death cert.
I am so sorry it has taking me so long to get back to you.
abydos