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Title: DEVLIN family Victoria
Post by: Freya Ellingsen on Wednesday 29 June 11 10:29 BST (UK)
Looking for any information on the Devlin family of Leopold (Kenningston) Victoria. Margaret Devlin (nee Ryan) was b. 1860 d. 1939 her husband was John Devlin b.? d. 1932, their known children were, John, William, Mary,Annie, Edith, Margaret, Elizabeth. Any information on this family would be helpful. ???

Thanks,

Fran
Title: Re: Devlin
Post by: XXXX on Wednesday 29 June 11 10:43 BST (UK)
In 1881 Margaret Ryan (born Victoria) married John Devlin (born Victoria), Reg#421.
Title: Re: Devlin
Post by: Aussie1947 on Wednesday 29 June 11 11:05 BST (UK)
Hi,

John Devlin & Margaret Ryan were married in Victoria in 1881 Reg#421

The ealiest I can see John Devlin in a PO Directory is in 1888 where he is listed as a farmer at Leopold.

Regards
Gerry

Title: Re: Devlin
Post by: XXXX on Wednesday 29 June 11 11:40 BST (UK)
Possibility John Devlin's mother:

Mary Ann Devlin died 1904, age 82, Bellarine, Reg#7512.
Parents listed as Robert Murdough and Elizth unknown.

John's siblings:

(Father John Devlin and Mother Mary Ann Murdoch/Murdock)

Joseph Devlin died 1930, Queenscliffe, age 74, Reg#7147.
Richard Devlin died 1947, Geelong, age 83, Reg#16793.
George Devlin died 1932, Swan Hill, age 88, Reg#3656.
Thomas Devlin died 1934, Queenscliffe, age 73, Reg#18896. (Father recorded as Robert)
William Devlin died 1916, Geelong, age 56, Reg#1831.

Title: Re: Devlin
Post by: Freya Ellingsen on Wednesday 29 June 11 12:06 BST (UK)
Thanks, you all have given me a head start, will go to library again tomorrow and look at BDM for the children of Margaret and John Devlin to see when they married and so on.....

Fram ;D
Title: Re: Devlin
Post by: XXXX on Wednesday 29 June 11 12:12 BST (UK)
Deaths of children of John Devlin and Margaret Ryan:

John Edwin Devlin died 1946, age 58, Geelong West, Reg#20950.
Mary Hockaday died 1950, age 68, Geelong, Reg#20795.
Elizabeth Coles died 1957, age 71, Geelong, Reg#17851.
Edith Davis died 1967, Leopold, age 71, Reg#19777.
Margaret Shelley died 1964, Geelong, age 71, Reg#21734.
Annie Casperdon died 1918, Prahran, age 32, Reg#6397.
Title: Re: Devlin
Post by: Freya Ellingsen on Wednesday 29 June 11 12:15 BST (UK)
Gerry,
  Thanks for that info it has taken me to a article on Trove  in The Melbourne Argus regarding a storm at a farm owned by a John Devlin at Leopold farmer! His son Wallace was injured...unfortunately Geelong Advertiser no indexed :(

Fran
Title: Re: Devlin
Post by: Freya Ellingsen on Wednesday 29 June 11 12:19 BST (UK)
Janet,
  Thanks for that you have given me the married names of all the female line!

Cheers,
 ;D ;D
Fran
Title: Re: Devlin
Post by: XXXX on Wednesday 29 June 11 12:29 BST (UK)
Annie Devlin married John Neilson Casperson 1905, Reg#3410.
Elizth Devlin married Harold Hoddinott Coles 1913, Reg#3923.
Marg Devlin married Richard Edwin Huckaday 1907, Reg#334.
Mary Devlin married Richard Edwin Hockaday 1907, Reg#334R.
Edith Devlin married Clifton Josh Davies 1920, Reg#539.
Edith Devlin married Clifton Josh Davis 1920, Reg#539R.
Margaret Devlin married Bartholomew Shelley 1920, Reg1248R.
Margaret Delvin married Bartholomew Shelley 1920, Reg1248.

Possibility:
John Edwin Devlin married Magdalene McPherson 1913, Reg#2670.
Title: Re: Devlin
Post by: Freya Ellingsen on Wednesday 29 June 11 12:49 BST (UK)
 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D once more thanks Janet you have set me on the right tram! Set to find more... ;D
Title: Re: Devlin
Post by: Aussie1947 on Wednesday 29 June 11 12:54 BST (UK)
There was a death registration as follows

Wm Thos Devlin.
Age:2
F: Jno
M: Margaret Ryan.
1893 Victoria.
Reg#14298
Est birth: 1891.

Gerry
Title: Re: Devlin
Post by: Freya Ellingsen on Wednesday 29 June 11 13:28 BST (UK)
Thanks Gerry ;)
Title: Re: Devlin
Post by: Freya Ellingsen on Wednesday 29 June 11 13:39 BST (UK)
Janet,
  I can confirm that your ref regarding a possible marriage for John Devlin was correct. as found in the same grave at Western Cemetery Geelong 13886   DEVLIN   MAGDALENE    22 Jan 1962   Geelong Western Public Cemetery   PRS*1***480W    ;D
Title: Re: Devlin
Post by: Aussie1947 on Wednesday 29 June 11 14:07 BST (UK)

Just for interest 3 hotels were owned or managed by Devlins in the1904 Vic PO Directory.

Gerry
Title: Re: Devlin
Post by: Freya Ellingsen on Wednesday 29 June 11 14:17 BST (UK)
Gerry,
  That's interesting as the Brother of Margaret Devlin (nee Ryan) my G Grandfather Michael Ryan owned a hotel in Geelong central!
Does it say the name of the Hotels ???

Fran
Title: Re: Devlin
Post by: Freya Ellingsen on Wednesday 29 June 11 14:29 BST (UK)
Also Janet,
 Annie (nee Devlin) buried
0330
CASPERSON
ANNIE
27 May 1918
Geelong Eastern Cemetery
COE*6***165
where as her husband Josh Casperson looks like he remarried;
5082
CASPERSON
JOHN NEILSON
20 Jul 1972
Geelong Western Public Cemetery
COENEW*1***595
to
13859
CASPERSON
FLORENCE MAY ELIZABETH
04 Dec 1961
Geelong Western Public Cemetery
COENEW*1***595

But I will have to invest in a cert or go to cemetery to confirm

Fran :)
Title: Re: Devlin
Post by: Aussie1947 on Wednesday 29 June 11 14:46 BST (UK)
Fran,

1904 Vic PO Directory

Devlin Edward, Bath & Bristol hotel, 66 Cromwell street, Collingwood
Devlin J. Western Turf hotel, Stawell
Devlin Mrs. M. E. Unicorn hotel, Gordons

Ryan Michael J. Imperial hotel, Avenel
Ryan Michael, Home hotel, Launching Place
Ryan Michael, Council Club hotel, Johnston street.CWood

Ryan Miss Ann, Commercial hotel, Malmesbury
Ryan Miss Annie, Camp hotel, Learmonth
Ryan Daniel, commercial hotel, Traralgon
Ryan Hannah, Warburton hotel, Warburton West
Ryan James, Council Family hotel, 2 Cotham rd. Kew
Ryan James J. Katamatite hotel, Katamatite
Ryan James, Lilydale hotel, Lilydale
Ryan John, Exchange hotel, Pall mall, Bendigo
Ryan John, Imperial hotel, Rushworth
Ryan John, Lalla Rookh hotel, 143 Queensberry st.N.Melb
Ryan John J. Prince of Wales hotel, Happy Valley
Ryan John, Temperance hotel, 546 Lonsdale street, Melb
Ryan John P. Emu hotel, Bouverie street, Carlton
Ryan Mary A. Volunteer Arms htl. 108 Victoria st.N.Melb

Gerry
Title: Re: Devlin
Post by: Freya Ellingsen on Wednesday 29 June 11 14:56 BST (UK)
Looks like they were not from the Geelong area. ::)
Title: Re: Devlin
Post by: Aussie1947 on Wednesday 29 June 11 15:12 BST (UK)

This was just the 1904 PO Directory so he still may have but not in this period.
Title: Re: Devlin
Post by: Freya Ellingsen on Wednesday 29 June 11 15:27 BST (UK)
Ok thanks will now have to visit some of the grave sites to obtain all their children.

Cheers
Title: Re: Devlin
Post by: Aussie1947 on Wednesday 29 June 11 21:52 BST (UK)

There was an M. Ryan and L Ryan, hotel licensees in Geelong as far back as 1859.

In 1861 L Ryan was the licensee of the Builder Arms Hotel in Geelong in 1861.

The 1914 Vic PO Directory has a Michael Ryan with a hotel in Geelong.
Ryan Michl, Gardens htl, 190 Malop st, Geelong.

Gerry
Title: Re: DEVLIN family Victoria
Post by: Freya Ellingsen on Thursday 30 June 11 05:59 BST (UK)
Gerry,
  Yes The Garden's Hotel was my GGrandfathers hotel, unfortunately it does not stand any more, was pulled down for the market and now a Office works is on that site!

Fran
Title: Re: DEVLIN family Victoria
Post by: XXXX on Thursday 30 June 11 11:22 BST (UK)
Further to Reply #8:

Bartholomew Shelley born 1883, Kens, Reg#10350.
Bartholomew Shelley died 1955, Geelong, age 72, Reg#16822.
Buried with Margaret (Devlin) at Geelong Eastern Cemetery.
Parents listed as Thomas Shelley and Sarah Wilds/Wyld.
Title: Re: DEVLIN family Victoria
Post by: XXXX on Thursday 30 June 11 11:27 BST (UK)
Further to Reply #8:

Richard Edwin Hockaday born 1884, Kens, Reg#25417.
Richard Edwin Hockaday died 1954, Geelong, age 68, Reg#16708.
Buried with Mary (Devlin) at Geelong Eastern Cemetery.
Parents listed as Richard Hockaday and Mary Ann Eva.
Title: Re: DEVLIN family Victoria
Post by: XXXX on Thursday 30 June 11 11:30 BST (UK)
Further to Reply #8:

Harold Hoddinott Coles born 1885, Geelong, Reg#10176.
Harold Hoddinott Coles died 1972, Newtown, age 88, Reg#16240.
Buried with Elizabeth (Devlin) at Geelong Eastern Cemetery.
Parents are listed as Francis Hoddinott Coles and Mary Ann Payne.
Title: Re: DEVLIN family Victoria
Post by: XXXX on Thursday 30 June 11 11:33 BST (UK)
Further to Reply #8:

Clifton Joseph Davis born 1893, Kens, Reg#14016.
Clifton Joseph Davis died 1966, Geelong, age 73, Reg#26826.
Buried with Edith (Devlin) at Geelong Eastern Cemetery.
Parents listed as James Davis and Mary Ann Twitt.
Title: Re: DEVLIN family Victoria
Post by: Freya Ellingsen on Thursday 30 June 11 11:36 BST (UK)
Thanks Janet,
  Can you see any children born to these family's?
I have found only some for John Edwin, Mary and Edith the others have had not luck.

Cheers,

Fran
Title: Re: DEVLIN family Victoria
Post by: XXXX on Thursday 30 June 11 11:44 BST (UK)
Further to Reply #8

Magdalene MacPherson born 1884, Ondi, Reg#19350.
Magdalene Devlin (McPherson) died 1962, Geelong, age 77, Reg#1732.
Parents listed as Alex McPherson and Magdalene Wallace.
Fran you have Cemetery information.
Title: Re: DEVLIN family Victoria
Post by: Freya Ellingsen on Thursday 30 June 11 11:57 BST (UK)
Thanks Janet
Title: Re: DEVLIN family Victoria
Post by: XXXX on Thursday 30 June 11 11:58 BST (UK)
Fran,

Check you PM in a few minutes for births.

Cheers,

Janet.
Title: Re: DEVLIN family Victoria
Post by: XXXX on Thursday 30 June 11 12:35 BST (UK)
Reply #8

John Neilson Cassperson born 1886, Geelong, Reg#10501.
John Neilson Casperson died 1972, Geelong, age 85, Reg#18693.
Buried Geelong Western Cemetery with Florence May Elizabeth (nee Slade)
Parents listed as Nile/Neil Casperson and Grace Louisa Skepper.

Florene May Elizabeth Casperson died 1961, Geelong, age 66, Reg#22710.
Parents listed as Robert Slade and Sarah Jane Browning.
Title: Re: DEVLIN family Victoria
Post by: Freya Ellingsen on Thursday 30 June 11 13:56 BST (UK)
This family Further to Reply #8:

Bartholomew Shelley born 1883, Kens, Reg#10350.
Bartholomew Shelley died 1955, Geelong, age 72, Reg#16822.
Buried with Margaret (Devlin) at Geelong Eastern Cemetery.
Parents listed as Thomas Shelley and Sarah Wilds/Wyld.
As



No children ???
Title: Re: DEVLIN family Victoria
Post by: XXXX on Friday 01 July 11 10:18 BST (UK)
No,

Victorian Birth Index only released up to 1920.
Title: Re: DEVLIN family Victoria
Post by: Freya Ellingsen on Friday 01 July 11 10:38 BST (UK)
Ok then it's the papers if they could afford it at the time! Geelong Historical society are putting up the Geelong Advertiser sometime soon so they say, it is not on Trove..

Regards,

Fran
Title: Re: Devlin
Post by: Rasindh on Sunday 11 September 11 06:06 BST (UK)
Further to Reply #8:

Clifton Joseph Davis born 1893, Kens, Reg#14016.
Clifton Joseph Davis died 1966, Geelong, age 73, Reg#26826.
Buried with Edith (Devlin) at Geelong Eastern Cemetery.
Parents listed as James Davis and Mary Ann Twitt.

Possibility John Devlin's mother:

Mary Ann Devlin died 1904, age 82, Bellarine, Reg#7512.
Parents listed as Robert Murdough and Elizth unknown.

John's siblings:

(Father John Devlin and Mother Mary Ann Murdoch/Murdock)

Joseph Devlin died 1930, Queenscliffe, age 74, Reg#7147.
Richard Devlin died 1947, Geelong, age 83, Reg#16793.
George Devlin died 1932, Swan Hill, age 88, Reg#3656.
Thomas Devlin died 1934, Queenscliffe, age 73, Reg#18896. (Father recorded as Robert)
William Devlin died 1916, Geelong, age 56, Reg#1831.


Title: Re: DEVLIN family Victoria
Post by: Rasindh on Sunday 11 September 11 06:25 BST (UK)
Joseph Devlin was my great grandfather.  I was brought up in his house in Mercer Street Queenscliff.  He and Mary Anne his wife, built the home and lived there when they retired from their farm in Marcus Hill.  Eunice Devlin (my grandmother) was his daughter, married my grandfather Thomas Thwaites in 1908.  Joseph's only son, George Fraser Devlin was killed in World War 1 - wounded in Belgium and dying a year later in Sidcup.  He is buried in Brookwood Military Cemetery, Surrey, England.  I have his medals on my desk as I type.  He was the brother of my grandmother, Eunice.   Mary Anne Devlin (nee Whiffin) was the Post Mistress for Marcus Hill district.  I was the fourth generation to own the Mercer Street home, which was named "Marcus" after the area on the Bellarine Peninsula where the Devlin family farmed extensively.  I would love to hear from anyone interested in the family.  Joseph is buried in the Point Lonsdale Cemetery, with Mary Anne.  And several other Devlin family members.  Eunice Ida Sybil Thwaites (nee Devlin) is buried at Point Lonsdale Cemetery.  As are her children Clifford and my Mother, Edna Ward (nee Thwaites).  Lesley Thwaites (my uncle), is buried in Geelong General Cemetery whilst the youngest of the siblings is still living, almost 89 years of age - Jack Thwaites - he is in NSW. Other Devlins buried at Point Lonsdale are Amy and Frank.  George Henry and Lillith Edith.  Rose and Mary Ann.  Susan, Bertie and Richard. Thomas and Joan.   When I was small my late Dad used to take me to see the Devlin family at the farm at Marcus Hill - several aging unmarried brothers and sisters lived together in the old homestead and are buried together at Point Lonsdale.  I used to be passed about in great delight by all of them, when I was a small child - kissed and cuddled.  They were just lovely.  They had ancient motor vehicles that chugged up and down the Geelong Road (Bellarine Hwy now) leaving deep tracks in the bitumen, due to the fact they predated pneumatic tyres and were in fact iron wheels with iron rims and rubber around those!!   Memories!!!   The Devlin men were outstanding horsemen and my family has "blamed" this genetic link as causing my own deep love of horses.
Title: Re: DEVLIN family Victoria
Post by: Freya Ellingsen on Sunday 11 September 11 07:22 BST (UK)
Thanks for your reply. My connection to the Devlin's is through marriage of Margaret Ryan who married John Devlin (woodcutter) abt 1881 in Melbourne. Their children were; William, Mary, Annie, John, Elizabeth, Margaret and Edith.
Margaret Ryan was born in Leopold, Geelong her only brother  Michael Ryan, was my G Grandfather. I am gathering all information on his sibs trying to find out where they really came from in Ireland.
I would be interested in talking to you!

Cheers,

Fran Nugent ;D
Title: Re: DEVLIN family Victoria
Post by: Rob Devling on Friday 20 November 15 21:49 GMT (UK)
I have a fair bit of knowledge about the extended Devlin family which arrived in Marcus Hill in 1852.  John Devlin and his wife Mary Ann (Murdoch) brought 3 children with them (one of whom died just before arrival) and left two behind in County Armagh, though they later came to the Bellarine Peninsula.
This year I went to Ireland and found the exact location from which they came, the Church in Loughgall where they were married in 1842, 6 miles north of Armagh and the Devlin family who have remained living in that area for the past 160 years.  I am in contact with them by email as they are fascinated to discover about the Australian link to the clan.
My Great Grandfather, Robert, came out of the Marco Polo as a 2 year old and about 1867, after the death of his father John, in 1865 from a tragic accident, Robert added a 'g' to the surname and my line became Devling.
No doubt you are aware of the Devlins who still live in the Geelong area who are direct descendants of Thomas and Richard, the youngest of John and Mary Ann's children.
Title: Re: DEVLIN family Victoria
Post by: Freya Ellingsen on Saturday 21 November 15 12:47 GMT (UK)

Thanks for your reply.
I know little of the Devlin family other than the children born to Margaret (nee Ryan) and John Devlin and the parents of John.
I have had no contact with Devlin's of the Geelong area, but would love to see if they have any info on Margaret and John Devlin, would be greatfull if u have any contacts for me. Margaret's family i have traced back to Sixmilebridge area of Co. Clare, the Ryan's arriving here in Melbourne in Shipping Record show:
The name of the ship that they sailed to Australia, Melbourne;The General Hewett in 1856, arriving October the same year.
Any news would be great, I am also going over to Ireland next year to see if I can further my search on the Ryan's which has been proving difficult as the name is vast, at least I now know the area.

Thanks,

Fran
Title: Re: DEVLIN family Victoria
Post by: lizded on Thursday 17 December 15 11:46 GMT (UK)
Hello Rashind
I am interested in Joseph's son George Fraser Devlin, who passed away in WW1. He was in 5/29th Battn, as was my grandfather James Plumridge Dedman. They sailed on the same ship to Egypt for Overseas Service. I am collecting info about these men as part of my Grandfather's story and hope you might have  a photo you can share of GFD, to include with his dossier.
Am happy to share the information I have with you.
I loved the reminiscences of your family. What a huge blow it must have been re George's tragic death.
I look forward to your reply.
Cheers
Liz
Title: Re: DEVLIN family Victoria
Post by: Lyn warn on Friday 06 March 20 05:08 GMT (UK)
Replying to an old thread my grandmother is Edith Davis. My mothers sister compiled an extesive history on the Devlins and Davis families that farmed all throughout the Bellarine peninsula. I have a wealth of information of those familie and also the Shelleys that have also been mentioned in your thread. This is the 1st time i have looked at roots Lyn warn daughter of marjory irwin nee davis. Daughter of edith devlin
Title: Re: DEVLIN family Victoria
Post by: sarah on Sunday 08 March 20 16:15 GMT (UK)
Hello Lyn, Welcome to RootsChat :)

When you reply to a old topic, all the members will have received an email notification.

Fran I am sorry but the email notification to Rob has bounced back saying that his mailbox is full so all emails have now been stopped, it looks like we are currently unable to make contact with him.

Regards

Sarah