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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Stirlingshire => Topic started by: Wilton Endeavour on Wednesday 29 June 11 22:46 BST (UK)
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Arthur Abel is buried in the lair of the Ferguson family at Camelon Cemetery. He died in 1912 age 6 months. I cannot find a death of his parents or even a marriage for them. But his parents were Arthur Carnie Abel and Margaret Pettigrew. The surname is spelt Abel on his birth certificate and Able on the lair paperwork. I'm struggling to find out why he would be in the same lair as the Ferguson family. So if anyone can find out anymore on his parents and where they originally came from. Could he have been adopted and his parents died at the same time? All these questions i'm trying to answer.
yours
Wilton Endeavour
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Have you checked the 1911 census for his parents to establish their birthyears and birthplaces
www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk
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From the IGI
ARTHUR CARNEY ABEL Birth: 12 NOV 1854 Christening: 29 DEC 1854 Kintore, Aberdeen Father: JOHN ABEL Mother: MARY CATTO
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Hello,
In all of Scotland 1911 till 2009 there is only one Margaret Abel death - other name Pettigrew.
1938 ABEL MARGARET CUNNINGHAM PETTIGREW F 50 FALKIRK /STIRLING 479/00 0318
and for the same date range - enter Arthur Abel only in Scotlands People and you get
1954 ABEL ARTHUR CARNIE M 74 FALKIRK /STIRLING 479/00 0485
Regards, Steve :)
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Thanks Carole and Steve for the replies so far.
Wilton Endeavour
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There are 2 1901 entries but the second ties in with that 1954 death
1901 for Liff & Benvie - Angus
Arthur C Abel 35 b Kintore Aberdeen - minister
1901 for 1 Torrance Place Stirling
Arthur Abel aged 20 b Kintore Aberdeen - boarder - occ foundry labourer. Head of house was Alexander Abel 27 b Old Meldrum
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MMM to for me to zzzzzz
But with the info provided by CaroleW
Read to the bottom of the atatched link - would possibly appear to the the same Abel family.? mentions a Rev Arthur C Abel as a younger brother in Dundee - the family coming from Kintore.
http://www.scotstext.org/makars/george_abel/author.asp
Regards, Steve
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Carole and Steve,
i've found his parents buried in Camelon cemetery and took a photo of the stone.
Wilton Endeavour
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Arthur Carnie Abel, widower of Margaret Pettigrew. Occupation Fishmonger. Died on 12th October 1954 at Falkirk Royal Infirmary. Parents were Alexander M. Abel who was an agricultural worker and Robina Leslie. Informant was son in law Andrew F. Wilson. Death caused by fracture of the neck and Kidney failure. Wonder if he had a fish shop or mobile van as he resided in Camelon when he died.
Wilton Endeavour
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Hi,
I know it’s a long time since you created a post about Arthur Abel on this website but he was my grandfather so I was interested to see his name here. I never met him because he died before I was born but my parents stayed with him and his youngest daughter Ina when they were first married. I’m trying to find out when he started the fishmonger business because that wasn’t what he always did. He didn’t have a shop or a van. He had horses and carts! My father had to leave school early to help in the family business even although he passed the 11+ and that created a bit of a rift between them. His wife was paralysed down her right side following a stroke. Many of his large family still live in the area.
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Hello Moira,
thanks for the reply on Arthur Abel. I will check out to see if it mentions his occupation on some of the census records. Then we should be able to establish when he started his fishmonger business.
Wilton Endeavour
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I suspect census records won’t help sine they only go back to 1911 and I think he must have started it after that but if you do find out, let me know.
Moira