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Title: Daniel McKay - Bally Castle Birth ca1820
Post by: redbecca on Sunday 03 July 11 05:06 BST (UK)
Searching for my 4X great grandfather Daniel McKay - son of Daniel McKay.

We believe that he was born in Bally Castle based on his muster roll from joining the East India Company in 1843.
He shipped out from Glasgow in 1843 on board the "Bangalore" with notations that his birth place was:
Parish of Derry Keaghan, Town of Bally Castle, County of Antrim.

He was aged 23 in 1843 according to his enlistment papers, however no further details were attached regarding next of kin.

His father's name is listed as Daniel McKay on his 4 marriage certificates found in India Record Office at British Library.

Any assistance on how to trace his birth and confirmation of names of Daniel's parents would be much appreciated.
Title: Re: Daniel McKay - Bally Castle Birth ca1820
Post by: aghadowey on Sunday 03 July 11 09:07 BST (UK)
To find Irish ancestors for such an early period you need to see if church records exist.
Have a look at Introduction to Irish Records (http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,442233.0.html) and My Ancestor came from Ireland - where do I start? (http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,498742.0.html).
Title: Re: Daniel McKay - Bally Castle Birth ca1820
Post by: dwrcrawford on Monday 04 July 11 00:24 BST (UK)
Hi.
I am very interested in knowing any more info about your Daniel McKay. I have a couple in my direct line as well and they were in the same general area of north antrim as Ballycastle.

My McKays/McCays are based in Inshamph and have a burial plot in Clough Cemetery

DC
Title: Re: Daniel McKay - Bally Castle Birth ca1820
Post by: redbecca on Monday 04 June 12 08:54 BST (UK)
Hi,
Long time since I have been in the message board. Still searching for Daniel's family - the info given is literally all I have except for a family story that the family originally came from Scotland (but the McKay name is Scottish, so...).
Sorry I can't help any further.
Title: Re: Daniel McKay - Bally Castle Birth ca1820
Post by: Elwyn Soutter on Monday 04 June 12 10:02 BST (UK)
There is something mysterious about your information because Ballycastle isn’t in Derrykeighan parish. It’s in the parish of Ramoan. Derrykeighan parish is some miles to the south west of Ballycastle, and there is another parish between them.

As far as searching church records is concerned, you don’t say what denomination that your ancestor was. The Scottish origin would suggest Presbyterian, though there can be exceptions. For Derrykeighan there are Presbyterian churches in Benvarden and Dervock. Benvarden’s baptisms don’t start till 1864 and Dervock’s in 1827. The only Presbyterian church with any records for around 1820 is the Reformed Presbyterian Church for Dervock & Ballymoney which has the following records (acc to the PRONI website): Lists of members by society, baptisms, marriages, deaths and removals including emigration, 1804-44; That would include the period you are interested in. The Church of Ireland’s records for that period were destroyed in the 1922 fire.

For Ramoan parish, the Church of Ireland records for that era were also destroyed in the 1922 fire, save for burials 1805 - 1831. Ballycastle Presbyterian Church records start in 1829. There is also a Presbyterian church in Ramoan but it has no records before 1900.
Title: Re: Daniel McKay - Bally Castle Birth ca1820
Post by: redbecca on Thursday 07 June 12 11:49 BST (UK)
Thanks for the great info - I was also wondering about Bally castle and Derry Keigan - but they are listed exactly as noted on Daniel's enrolment records in the Indian Army - copied from the original handwritten ledger.

Sad to hear that most records are non-existent - wonder if I will ever be able to trace back any further...

Won't give up hope yet  :)
Title: Re: Daniel McKay - Bally Castle Birth ca1820
Post by: jimchelsea on Thursday 07 June 12 17:11 BST (UK)
Hi
theres a marriage record on IGI for a Daniel McKay to a Betty Laverty,28th Dec 1845, Ramoan Co Antrim

jim

http://www.rootschat.com/links/0ncc/

Title: Re: Daniel McKay - Bally Castle Birth ca1820
Post by: jimchelsea on Thursday 07 June 12 17:17 BST (UK)
was one of the marriages to an Ann Wilson? Do you know when /where Daniel died?
Title: Re: Daniel McKay - Bally Castle Birth ca1820
Post by: kingskerswell on Thursday 07 June 12 17:56 BST (UK)
Hi,
   The McCAY/Laverty marriage which Jim found took place in Ramoan Church of Ireland. Fathers' names were Daniel McCay and John Laverty.

Regards
Title: Re: Daniel McKay - Bally Castle Birth ca1820
Post by: TheRealMcKay on Wednesday 10 April 13 21:35 BST (UK)
Hi

I wonder if your search got any further. I am from a line of Mckays that originated from DerryKeighan area. The spelling changes between McKay/McCay/Mackay frequently but of interest might be

Daniel Mckay b 1774 m Mgt Stewart/?stuart and his father Daniel Mckay 1730 - 1803 m Catherine Houston  who is my Gt. Gt. Gt. Gt Grandfather. Hugh Mckay 1769-1848 of Knockmore Mosside is my Gt. Gt. Gt Grandfather

See also

http://wpamckays.com/comments.htm for more on the Henry Stuart connection
Title: Re: Daniel McKay - Bally Castle Birth ca1820
Post by: atuthill on Thursday 31 October 13 21:41 GMT (UK)
I am also looking for information on Daniel McKay, father to Caroline Irwin Stuart McKay. I tried the link above but it not work. I know Caroline married a James Watson in London in 1843. Her father is listed in the register as Daniel McKay. I do not know where the Stuart name comes in but is has been continued to be a name used in the family.
Title: Re: Daniel McKay - Bally Castle Birth ca1820
Post by: TheRealMcKay on Thursday 31 October 13 23:36 GMT (UK)
The link is down now

Daniel McCay(McKay) Mosside born 1730 died 1803, also his son Daniel Mckay birth/death dates unknown, and also his son Daniel Henry Stuart Mckay born 1801 died 1889

The above was posted by James Wilson Mckay

Hope this helps
Title: Re: Daniel McKay - Bally Castle Birth ca1820
Post by: atuthill on Friday 01 November 13 13:54 GMT (UK)
Yes thank you, that does help.
Title: Re: Daniel McKay - Bally Castle Birth ca1820
Post by: brianwilsonatno6 on Monday 26 February 18 17:28 GMT (UK)
My name is Brian McKay.I was born in the Village of Mosside,Parish of Derrykeighan.My family have been in Mosside since at least 1764 until present.You have been looking for a Daniel McKay from this Parish.A lot of my ancestors were called Daniel and I have (or so I thought) placed all of them
There may be one Daniel who had a son Daniel that I was unaware of.Have you any more details at all-even the least thing like children'names or where your Daniel ended up living.I am quite familiar with this area as my early ancestors were all buried in the old Church at Derrykeighan and I still attend Mosside Presbyterian Church.By the way this branch of the family to which I refer may have spelt the name Mackay.Hope to hear from you,Brian
Title: Re: Daniel McKay - Bally Castle Birth ca1820
Post by: brianwilsonatno6 on Tuesday 27 February 18 17:50 GMT (UK)
hi rebecca,my name is brian mckay.I was born in the parish of derrykeighan,same as your ancestor daniel mckay.I have traced my ancestors back to 1764 and am familiar with the parish and its people.I was born and grew up in the village of mosside,and still go to the presbyterian church there.
please contact me with a little more info.about where your ancestor finally settled and I may be able to help.
Brian Mckay
Title: Re: Daniel McKay - Bally Castle Birth ca1820
Post by: brianwilsonatno6 on Wednesday 28 February 18 17:19 GMT (UK)
Hi,Someone looking info.regarding Caroline Irwin Stuart McKay married to James Watson.I am a direct Ancestor and still have strong connections with the Village in which she was born,MOSSIDE.
Caroline was the daughter of Daniel McKay (McCay) and Margaret Stuart and the granddaughter
of Daniel McCay and Catherine Price,of Mosside,Parish of Derrykeighan,County Antrim.
She was one of nine children,five brothers and three sisters.Three brothers and Caroline  went to America.The old house where Caroline was born still stands albeit semi dillapidated.
The family would have been classified as minor gentry.The Stuart side of the family claimed to
have forbears connected to the Royal House of Stuart,?? Caroline and James Watson went to Baltimore where she remained at least until the 1900 census.James,her husband was killed in the Civil War.He was a Sergeant in "Cole's Cavalry",a Regiment raised in Baltimore.
I have lots of information on my family should anyone be interested.
Title: Re: Daniel McKay - Bally Castle Birth ca1820
Post by: brianwilsonatno6 on Thursday 01 March 18 08:31 GMT (UK)
Someone posted information re: Hugh McKay of Knockmore,Mosside married Catherine Houston.
Would like more information as to this person's connection to this family.I also am connected.
Brian McKay