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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Kent => Topic started by: aakarlhamo on Thursday 07 July 11 16:04 BST (UK)
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Hi
Can anyone help me find out about George Goodbun born abt 1793, Margate.
On his son's marriage banns he is listed as a sailor.
His son, George Blucher Goodbun 1820, married Charlotte Gardiner on 26 May 1842 at All Souls, Langham Place, Westminster.
How can I find out what sort of sailor he was.
Thanks
Carole ;D
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Hi Carole
wonder if this could be the George you are looking for:
In the 1841 census
HO107; Piece 684; Book: 10 Enumeration District: 12; Folio: 15; Page: 24
Wharfs in Augustus Street, Regents Park, St Pancras
George Goodbun, 45, Barge Stearer (sic) wife Sarah 45, Ann 20, Sarah 15, Caroline 14, Emma 8, George 1
Dazey
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Yes, I think that must be them in 1841 as in 1851 his wife, Sarah, is a widowed dressmaker (born Exeter, Devon) living in Mary Street, St Pancras, with daughter Emma, 17, who was born in Margate.
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Hi Dazey
Yes, I saw the 1841 census but I am not sure if it is the same George Goodbun because the one I have born abt 1793 had a son George Blucher Goodbun born 1820, Margate and he and his wife Charlotte in turn had a son George Blucher dob 1843, Pancras London a year after they married.
Also for reasoning's sake, George snr wouldn't have another son called George when his other one is still alive or would he!!! So confusing ha ha. ???
The fact that he is a barge stearer means that he is a man of the water so that fits with being a sailor on the son's marriage banns.
What I would really like to find out is his sailor life when he was living in Margate. Did he work on the steamships and are there records or was he in the navy, which I think is less likely ???
What do you think?
Thanks for your help.
Carole ;D
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The 1 yr old George Goodbun in 1841 might not have been a son - but, rather, a grandson?
There's a marriage in 1859 Camden of a George Goodbun to an Ann Eliza Willis. George age 19 - father Thomas Pickaby/Piching(? - hard to decipher) a porter.
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Yes, I also thoought that maybe it could be a grandson but George Blucher and Charlotte married in 1842 and their son George Blucher 1943 was born after the 1841 census. I have the marriage and birth records so the dates are good.
The only other thought is that it is a sibling's child.
Because I cannot find the census records I have not been able to find the siblings. :(
It is a confusing one ???
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I wonder if maybe he was Ann's son? I can't find them in 1851 either!
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This is a longshot..but a Caroline Goodbun married in 1849 and by a process of elimination it looks like she married Edward John Jobson..in 1851 they were living in the Regents Park area of St Pancras and she was born in Ostend (British Subject). Margate to Ostend - looks like Post Office Steam Packets started running April 1827. :-\
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In 1871 the Jobson's were in Scotland and Caroline's place of birth is given as Kent.
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Hmmmmm, not sure about that one!
Had a look on the 1841 census to see the birth place but it's just 'add'
for middx so not sure aboout the Ostend.
There again like you said the steamships went Holland and Belgium.
I am going to digest this and look at it fresh tomorrow.
If I get a chance have a look on family search as sometimes they have better
records than ancesty.
Do you know anything about where I can look to find margate sailor records for the 1793 George?
Thanks for your help and I'll update tomorrow. ;D
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Because I cannot find the census records I have not been able to find the siblings
Who can't you find on which census?
Do you know anything about where I can look to find margate sailor records for the 1793 George?
How do you know he was born in 1793/what is your source for this information?
Casalguidi :)
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The 'birthplace' for Caroline on the 1841 is 'N' - meaning not born in same County
I'm sorry I can't help with Margate sailor records. Perhaps thiswebsite might be of interest: http://www.margatelocalhistory.co.uk/
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Hi Casalguidi
My tree on ancestry is backed up by records until George Blucher 1820 Margate.
I got the name of George and profession of Sailor for his father from his 1842 marriage banns.
As ancestry wasn't coming up with records I went onto familysearch.org and a found baptism record for George Blucher 1820 Margate giving father's name George and mother Sarah.
Still on family search, I then found a baptism record for George 1793, Margate father Daniel and mother Elizabeth. I also found a baptism for Daniel 1757 Margate, father Daniel and mother Sarah along with a marriage record for Daniel Goodbun and Sarah Sackett dated 21 Jan 1754.
I have printed out records for other Goodbuns which I need to sort through and see if they can be grouped into families.
First census for George Blucher is 1861, St Pancras. Wife Charlotte, sons George Blucher 1843 and Henry 1850.
Thanks Carole ;D
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1851 Bourne End, Wooburn, Buckinghamshire
John E GARDENER head mar 60 warfinger b.Marlow Bucks
Charlotte wife 66 b.Marlow
George GOODBURN grandson 8 b.Pimlico Middlesex
Ellen TIBURN grandau 3 b.Bourne End Bucks
HO107/1719 folio 49 page 5
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1851 Mary Street, St Pancras, Middlesex
Charlotte GOODBURN head mar 32 dressmaker b.Little Marlow Bucks
Henry son 9m b.St Pancras
HO107/1493 folio 770 page 31
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1851 3 Warwick Square, St George Hanover Square, Middlesex
George Blucher GOODBURN unm (sic) 30 footman b.Margate - servant to William Adam LOCK a parliamentary agent
HO107/1478 folio 581 page 19
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I, too, think the GOODBURN family (George and Sarah) in the 1841 census at the Wharfs in Augustus Street are the correct ones. Notice Charlotte is living in Mary Street at the time of the 1851 census - the same street as her mother in law, Sarah GOODBURN.
The baptism records for the children in Margate should give the occupation of their father.
Casalguidi :)