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Title: Middlesbrough Cemeteries
Post by: garethgriffiths on Saturday 30 April 05 22:27 BST (UK)
Does anyone know if there is an electronic database or cd-rom for all or any of the cemeteries in Middlesbough which I could obtain?
Title: Re: Middlesbrough Cemeteries
Post by: sillgen on Friday 06 May 05 16:06 BST (UK)
I am sure there will be some form of transcription if you contact the Cleveland FHS but probably book form.   Worth a try though.   Contacting the cemeteries direct might work too.  They are very helpful - or were when I was visiting them ten years ago.
Andrea
Title: Re: Middlesbrough Cemeteries
Post by: mikeguess on Friday 06 May 05 20:10 BST (UK)
There is an MI for the old Middlesbrough cemetery ( I can look in my copy ) available from CFHS. This cemetery no longer exhists . The main cemetery for Middlesbrough was Linthorpe Cemetery ( over the road from the workhouse ! ) there are no MIs for this as it is quite a big place. This place was opened in 1861 after the old burial ground in Middlesbrough became full.
Title: Re: Middlesbrough Cemeteries
Post by: garethgriffiths on Wednesday 08 June 05 19:43 BST (UK)
Thanks, I suspect our Kemp/Taylor/Bonner/Hawkins families are going to be at rest in the Linthorpe cemetery after 1861 as the Kemp's seem to settle in Middlesbrough circa 1900.  This would be the one I would opt for, I have seen their website and keep revisiting in case they intend to do an MI book at some time.
regards Gareth
Title: Re: Middlesbrough Cemeteries
Post by: MINOR on Wednesday 08 June 05 20:06 BST (UK)
There are 7 Kemp Burials recorded at Linthorpe Cemetery in the NBI 2nd Edition. Do you want them all?
Title: Re: Middlesbrough Cemeteries
Post by: garethgriffiths on Thursday 09 June 05 01:07 BST (UK)
Yes please that would be great and offer me some direction hopefully
thanks again Gareth
Title: Re: Middlesbrough Cemeteries
Post by: MINOR on Thursday 09 June 05 12:51 BST (UK)
NBI 2nd Edition;
Middlebrough New Linthorpe Cemetery

16 Dec 1874 Emma Kemp age 3
29 Mar 1875 Clara Kemp 13 mths
23 Feb 1876 Ann Kemp 8 wks
25 July 1878 Mary Maria Kemp 18 mths

Middlesbrough Linthorpe Cemetery

28 May 1867 Martha Ann Kemp 12 days
1 Nov 1869 George William Kemp 4
24 Feb 1870 Caroline Kemp 36

Let me know if you want other parts of N Yorks, I will look those up too.
Title: Re: Middlesbrough Cemeteries
Post by: garethgriffiths on Saturday 11 June 05 15:52 BST (UK)
Thanks again, none of those seem to fit (yet)
I do have a nucleus of Kemp's in Ainderby Querrnhow and Thirsk areas including Boltby, Kilburn and Sutton under Whitestone Cliffe.
Also Adam and George Kemp in Harrogate too.
Any burials or MIs in these areas of Kemp's would be greatfully appreciated.
Thanks
Gareth
Title: Re: Middlesbrough Cemeteries
Post by: MINOR on Saturday 18 June 05 19:29 BST (UK)
NBI 2 nd Edition

Middlesbrough, Ayresome Cemetery

22 Jan 1860 Ann Kemp aged 72
22 Jan 1860 John Kemp aged 74

Middlesbrough St Hilda
6 Nov 1848 Jeremiah Kemp aged 21

Sorry, no sign of George or Adam in any of those N Yorks parishes recorded in this collection.
If you could give me some dates, I'll give you what is there.
Title: Re: Middlesbrough Cemeteries
Post by: mikeguess on Sunday 19 June 05 10:43 BST (UK)
I've looked at the MIs for Middlesbrough cemetery and there are no Kemps recorded. The recording was done in 1978.
Where the Kemps Quakers ? their burial ground was in place before the Linthorpe cemetery was laid out next to it.

Did your Kemps live in Middlesbrough itself, do you have an address or area for them ?

Title: Re: Middlesbrough Cemeteries
Post by: garethgriffiths on Thursday 30 June 05 17:27 BST (UK)
Many thanks to Mike Guess for his dedication to helping me.

Hi MINOR
Regarding Adam and George Kemp, they tootle off to Harrogate by the 1901 cenus, Adam is 25 and a carpenter and his brother George is 27 and an engine driver.  Both were born in Ainderby Quernhow Yorkshire, both were sons of John Kemp and Jane his wife, formerly Robinson.  I think Adam's full name is Adam Robinson Kemp but if anyone could find any info on them or their descendants that would be great :-*
Gareth
Title: Re: Middlesbrough Cemeteries
Post by: garethgriffiths on Thursday 30 June 05 17:31 BST (UK)
Many thanks Mike for sending me the photo of Robert Henry Kemp's headstone in Linthorpe Cemetery Middlesbrough that certainly has answered a few questions, including the fact that there are two husbands buried together in the grave.

I have 23 addressess for the Kemp/Taylor/Bonner/Orth family in Middlesbrough.
Thanks Gareth
Title: Re: Middlesbrough Cemeteries
Post by: MINOR on Thursday 30 June 05 20:57 BST (UK)
These are all from the PR'S of Kilburn, hope they fit somewhere;

Married 16 Feb 1789 John Kemp of Great Ouseburn & Sarah Horner Wits Geo Horner John Fisher

Baptisms
15 Nov 1789 George son of John Kemp of High Kilb.
18 Mar 1792 John of John Kemp of High Kilb.
12 May 1794 Edward of John Kemp of High Kilb., carpenter
19 Apr 1795 Sarah of John Kemp H.K, carpenter
22 Dec 1799 Thomas son of John & Sarah Kemp of High K, carpenter
Born 14 Apr 1802 bap. 15 Apr 1802 Edward son of John & Sarah Kemp, High Kilburn, joiner
9 Apr 1804 Hannah dau. of John & Sarah Kemp of High Kilburn innkeeper
29 Jun 1806 Mary dau. of John Kemp joiner & Sarah his wife, H. Kil, born 23 Jun 1806
15 Apr 1808 Ann daughter of John Kemp (Wright) of High Kilburn & Sarah his wife
3 Nov 1811 Elizabeth daughter of John Kemp Labourer of High Kilburn & Sarah his wife
17 Jan 1812 Elizabeth daughter of John Kemp  (Wright) of High Kilburn & Sarah his wife

Burial 14 May 1794 Edward (s) of John Kemp, HK, carpenter
Title: Re: Middlesbrough Cemeteries
Post by: garethgriffiths on Friday 01 July 05 08:51 BST (UK)
Outstanding red team leader, get you a case of beer for that one!!!

Wow!  I had a couple of those but you have certainly strangthened the family with a couple of new additions like Hannah and Edward's burial date so he must be buried at Kilburn.

The confusing element of Kemp (Wright) must be assoicated with his later job as a Wheelwright which shows on GENUKI's trade directories for Kilburn.

Have you got access to the parish registers through a FHS?  This was the best news I have had for ages, so a BIG THANK YOU.  I have been working on databases gathering in the Kemp's of Kilburn earlier this week from FreeBMD, Ancestry and particularly Family Search putting them into tables in MSWord but I certainly hadnt got as many as these.

Its a useful tip to others this far back to build a table of the same name from www.familysearch.org as they could well link up later.

Many thanks once again Minor, you should get 5 stars for this reasearch.
kind regards, Gareth
Title: Re: Middlesbrough Cemeteries
Post by: marion knez on Wednesday 06 July 05 03:41 BST (UK)
i am looking for thomas ebden who died in middlesborough in 1892. would he be buried in one of the middlesborough cemeteries?
it would be  greta to find out about his family & parents,
Can anyone help me please?
thanks
marion
Title: Re: Middlesbrough Cemeteries
Post by: AnneMc on Wednesday 06 July 05 05:37 BST (UK)
Would you mind checking the burial records for Middlesbrough cemeteries for a Mary Pinkney died 1882 or any other Pinkney's buried there. Also a Emily Foster died after 1891 census she is the daughter or Mary Pinkney.

Thank you very much.

Regards
'Anne
Canada
Title: Re: Middlesbrough Cemeteries
Post by: MINOR on Wednesday 06 July 05 13:55 BST (UK)
Middlesbrough Ayresome Cemetery
27 Feb 1862 William George Pinkney age 3
11 July 1863    (blank)                      Pinkney 5 mths

Middlesbrough Linthorpe Cemetery
12 Mar 1868 Thomas Pinkney age 21
16 Feb 1871 Thomas Pinkney age 2
3 Apr 1871 Elizabeth Pinkney 8 wks

Middlesbrough New Linthorpe Cemetery
11 Nov 1874 Emily A Pinkney 23 mths
7 Mar 1875 (blank) Pinkney
9 Mar 1875 Emanuel Pinkney 3 days
10 Dec 1879 (blank) Pinkney
18 July 1880 John Pinkney  64
18 Aug 1880 Ann Pinkney 76
22 Aug 1880 William Pinkney 36
8 Apr 1882 Margaret Pinkney 1 day

No sign of Mary in 1882, or of Emily Foster, sorry.
Title: Re: Middlesbrough Cemeteries
Post by: AnneMc on Wednesday 06 July 05 17:24 BST (UK)
Hello Minor:
Thank you very much for doing the look up for me, I really appreciate it. I think the John Pinkney buried in 1880 in Linthorpe is the husband to Mary Pinkney as on the 1881 census Mary is a widow and I have both John and Mary on the 1871 census in Linthorpe.

Thanks again

Regards
Anne
Canada
Title: Re: Middlesbrough Cemeteries
Post by: alllegs on Wednesday 06 July 05 17:34 BST (UK)
Hi,

I hope you don't mind me butting in!

I'm pulling my hair out over my great grandma who married and had her children in Middlesbrough/North Ormesby.  She supposedly died there in 1927, would anyone mind having a look for her for me please.

She's called Margaret Hubbard (nee Williams) born approx 1895 and died 1927.

Thank you in desperate anticipation
Love
Legs
xxxxx
Title: Re: Middlesbrough Cemeteries
Post by: MINOR on Wednesday 06 July 05 20:10 BST (UK)
Sorry, I have checked the NBI, and Margaret Hubbard does'nt appear in Middlesbrough. The last entry for Hubbard is in 1882.
Title: Re: Middlesbrough Cemeteries
Post by: alllegs on Wednesday 06 July 05 20:21 BST (UK)
Thank you Minor,

This woman is getting weirder by the minute, as far as I can see she hasn't been born neither has she died, but she did marry and have 3 kids!!

Oh well thank you for your time.
Best wishes
Legs
xxxxx
Title: Re: Middlesbrough Cemeteries
Post by: frankboustead on Monday 05 September 05 00:50 BST (UK)
Hi,

hoping for some help with Bousteads in said cemeteries.

names are Thomas, Charlotte Hannah, Mary Ann and James.  One of the Thomases (there should be at least 2) is hopefully c 1952, ideally with date of death on it!  Mary Ann should be before 1952 and Charlotte Hannah c. 1912. One of the James should be shortly after 1916, the other c.1900, maybe..
Any help, pointers, links gratefull received
Title: Re: Middlesbrough Cemeteries
Post by: Lee31 on Thursday 23 August 07 10:43 BST (UK)
Hi everyone,I`m new here :) I was just wondering if any of you know anything I need to know,What it is - is I live in Hemlington,Middlesbrough and am investigating my home and the area,I have been told by 2 people that the land were we live was a graveyard years and years ago,But I have been told when enquiring in the main library in Middlesbrough & Teeside Archives that there was no graveyard and that it was just farmland and fields.I got a map yesterday of the area in the 1853 time era and there was`nt anything on,but I guess it is possable it could have been before that,maybe even the 1700`s or further back,Do any of you know if there was a graveyard on the Hemlington land,All help and information is greatly appreciate,Thank you.
Lee
Title: Re: Middlesbrough Cemeteries
Post by: mikeguess on Saturday 25 August 07 22:43 BST (UK)
Hi,

The nearest churchyard to Hemlington was that of Acklam St Mary's or in the next parish to you in Marton St Cuthbert's but I would think those living around Hemlington would go to St Marys.
Where in Hemlington are you ?
I am not aware of any burial grounds in the Hemlington area as it was mostly farmland. Do you know what makes them believe there was ?
Drop me a line, I might be able to help

Mike
Title: Re: Middlesbrough Cemeteries
Post by: Ecneps on Saturday 06 October 07 09:02 BST (UK)
I'm pulling my hair out over my great grandma who married and had her children in Middlesbrough/North Ormesby.  She supposedly died there in 1927, would anyone mind having a look for her for me please.
She's called Margaret Hubbard (nee Williams) born approx 1895 and died 1927.

Hi Legs

Don't know if you got an answer to this, but the Tees valley index website has a Margaret Hubbard death 1927 Middlesbrough, you can order the cert through the website at
http://www.middlesbrough-indexes.co.uk/search.php

Or if you want to order it from the GRO the ref is
Sept Quarter 1927 Middlesbrough 9d 528
Margaret Hubbard aged 31

Best wishes, Barbara
 :)
Title: Re: Middlesbrough Cemeteries
Post by: alllegs on Saturday 06 October 07 11:21 BST (UK)
Hi Barbara,

Thank you for the info, I did manage to get up to Middlesbrough last year and actually visited the cemetery where Margaret is buried with her Mother and Father.  She died of TB.

Thanks again
Legs
xxxx
Title: Re: Middlesbrough Cemeteries
Post by: Nutty1966 on Saturday 06 October 07 11:25 BST (UK)
 ;D for Legs!!!
Title: Re: Middlesbrough Cemeteries
Post by: alllegs on Saturday 06 October 07 12:05 BST (UK)
:D for Nutty - she was the one who coped with me driving her insane going all over Middlesbrough and traipsing around Eston Cem with the delightful Chicken George.

I'm actually quite surprised she isn't disowning me! LOL

Love ya Nutty!

Legs
xxxx
Title: Re: Middlesbrough Cemeteries
Post by: Ecneps on Saturday 06 October 07 13:00 BST (UK)
Just realised how old your posting was, Legs  ::)

Glad you found her anyway  :D :D

Barbara
Title: Re: Middlesbrough Cemeteries
Post by: snowflake on Tuesday 04 December 07 22:09 GMT (UK)
Hello,  Could I please ask if someone could find any of these in Middlesbrough cemeteries.
Eugene and Eliza/Elizabeth McCabe, both died 1904. Eugene died in the North Riding Infirmary and their last address was Woodhouse Terrace, that is about all I  have on them.
Also have Edward & Elizabeth McCabe, Eugene & Gertrude McCabe, Elizabeth & Charles Vallelly. They were still alive in 1901.

Another family are the McKeone's, John died 1883 in Middlesbrough but no sign of his wife Bridget, she may have gone back to Ireland. Their family was John, Michael and Barnard.

I will be so grateful for any help with these families    :)

Snowflake   
Title: Re: Middlesbrough Cemeteries
Post by: Nutty1966 on Tuesday 11 December 07 17:02 GMT (UK)
Hi Snowflake

If you contact the Acklam Cemetery Office they will be able to help you with which cemetery your relations are buried in.  I am sure after Christmas I will be having a trip to one of them, I will make sure I have a couple of my rootschat friends with me. 

If you find out which cemetery and the grave number and post it here.   :D

The contact for Acklam is

Acklam Cemetery and Crematoruim
Acklam Road
Middlesbrough
TS5 7HE
Phone: 01642 817725

Jane
Title: Re: Middlesbrough Cemeteries
Post by: Ecneps on Tuesday 11 December 07 19:24 GMT (UK)
As it's just up the road I expect that'll be me will it Jane?

 :D
Title: Re: Middlesbrough Cemeteries
Post by: madpants on Tuesday 11 December 07 19:43 GMT (UK)
And me!!!  ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Middlesbrough Cemeteries
Post by: Nutty1966 on Tuesday 11 December 07 19:45 GMT (UK)
Get your flasks ready girls, we off a hunting, we may need some crisp fresh air in the Christmas holidays  ;D  I mean we can't give all family tree up for Christmas  :)

Title: Re: Middlesbrough Cemeteries
Post by: madpants on Tuesday 11 December 07 19:48 GMT (UK)
Woohooo!!   If it snows can we go then, can we huh? can we? can we?

 :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: Middlesbrough Cemeteries
Post by: Nutty1966 on Tuesday 11 December 07 19:50 GMT (UK)
Oh listen to her  ;D I tell you hun, if it snows Neil will want to come out, he loves snow with a passion

 :D ;) :D ;) :D
Title: Re: Middlesbrough Cemeteries
Post by: snowflake on Wednesday 12 December 07 05:38 GMT (UK)
Hi Jane, Thanks for the reply and advice, I  will have to write to them as I live in Australia. Would they have an email address at all.

Snowflake    8)
Title: Re: Middlesbrough Cemeteries
Post by: ike on Monday 11 February 08 15:37 GMT (UK)
hi there
could some please look up the linthorpe cemetey to see if cornelius brown is in there. he was born in1847 and my g/father was born there in1882 but there is no sign of him on the 1891 census and his wife has remarried
thanks fran
Title: Re: Middlesbrough Cemeteries
Post by: Ecneps on Monday 11 February 08 15:56 GMT (UK)
Hi Fran,

Have you looked for a death date for him first? Couldn't see him in Middlesbrough indexes, have you tried the GRO death indexes?

Barbara  :)
Title: Re: Middlesbrough Cemeteries
Post by: ike on Monday 11 February 08 16:46 GMT (UK)
cannt find a death cert. it was just a thought as he was last cenused there thanks
ike
Title: Re: Middlesbrough Cemeteries
Post by: Ecneps on Monday 11 February 08 16:57 GMT (UK)
Hi Ike,

Whereabouts in Middlesbrough was he living on 1881 census, I can't seem to find him - do you have the census reference?

Barbara
Title: Re: Middlesbrough Cemeteries
Post by: ike on Monday 11 February 08 17:28 GMT (UK)
hi there
linthorpe  30 spencer street by my g/fathers birth cert this is the last know place for him [cornelius that is] by 1991 his wife had remarried and lived in salford with my g/father and her new hubby. it was just by chance i found this post and thought id ask just to see if hes there. never mind if hes not one day ill find him
thanks
Title: Re: Middlesbrough Cemeteries
Post by: madpants on Monday 11 February 08 17:39 GMT (UK)
Just a thought as there are no obvious Cornelius Brown deaths anywhere in that decade, have you got a findmypast sub Barbara?  There are quite a few Brown divorces in that time frame but I can't see the details as I don't have a sub.
Title: Re: Middlesbrough Cemeteries
Post by: ike on Monday 11 February 08 17:49 GMT (UK)
ok thanks very much for the help
ike
Title: Re: Middlesbrough Cemeteries
Post by: Ecneps on Monday 11 February 08 17:57 GMT (UK)
No sorry, no divorce found.
What is the census ref for 1881 please?

Barbara  :D
Title: Re: Middlesbrough Cemeteries
Post by: madpants on Monday 11 February 08 18:42 GMT (UK)
What was his wife's name, place and date of birth?
Title: Re: Middlesbrough Cemeteries
Post by: Ecneps on Monday 11 February 08 18:48 GMT (UK)
And what was his place of birth?  He's nowhere to be seen in Spencer St, 1881 so maybe he died before then?
1881 30 Spencer St was occupied by John Murphy & family, do you know where Cornelius was in 1871?
Title: Re: Middlesbrough Cemeteries
Post by: Robmarnic on Saturday 08 March 08 11:20 GMT (UK)
I am trying to find any record of my G grandfather John Smith who was a captain in the Yorkshire Hussars. His grave stone was in the Linthorpe cemetery approx 60years ago next to his sister Ann Hollins -neither are there now. Apparently he committed suicide after losing his house and farm gambling. I can find no record of him in Military records (probably because of the shame he brought upon his family and regiment).
Any help appreciated...
Title: Re: Middlesbrough Cemeteries
Post by: Ecneps on Saturday 08 March 08 12:08 GMT (UK)
Hi Robmarnic,

Welcome to rootschat!   :)

Would you like to give full details of your gtgrandfather, date and place of birth, death date, wife, parents, siblings, and what census and other information you already have for him, and we'll see what we can find

Barbara  :)
Title: Re: Middlesbrough Cemeteries
Post by: Robmarnic on Sunday 09 March 08 11:10 GMT (UK)
Thanks for your reply Barbara, but I am very short on details. I will see what else I can dredge up from my cousin who lives in Middlesbrough. I will be away for two weeks but will write again after then.
Title: Re: Middlesbrough Cemeteries
Post by: Ecneps on Sunday 09 March 08 11:46 GMT (UK)
When you find out more details, perhaps it might be as well to post a new topic on another board.  Had a quick look for Ann Hollins death (as thought it would be easier than looking for a John Smith without dates) but couldn't find anything in the Middlesbrough indexes - here's the link if you want to have a search:
http://www.middlesbrough-indexes.co.uk/search.php

Barbara
Title: Re: Middlesbrough Cemeteries
Post by: June Jones on Friday 04 April 08 22:30 BST (UK)
Hi There.
I would love to know if my Grand-Mother & Grand-Father were Buried in any
Middlesbrough Cemeteries.
The only info i have on my Grand-Mother is her name ..Annie Farrell,
( Callaghan was her Maiden name ),  she was born the year 1869/70
in Middlesbrough,  also Married in Middlesbrough in the year 1888 to a
Patrick Farrell..he was born in Ireland.
Look forward to any help,  many thanks to you,   regards..June.
Title: Re: Middlesbrough Cemeteries
Post by: madpants on Saturday 05 April 08 01:13 BST (UK)
Do you have her death cert? 

I think this may be her

Annie Farrell age 66
Dec Q 1936
Middlesbrough 9d 628

or if you contact Middlesbrough direct via

http://www.middlesbrough-indexes.co.uk/index.php

Their ref no. is M-M-5A-0-015

If you get the cert you can ring the very nice ladies in the cemetary office, give them the details from the cert

The contact for Acklam is

Acklam Cemetery and Crematoruim
Acklam Road
Middlesbrough
TS5 7HE
Phone: 01642 817725

and if you don't live in the area the three musketeers will go a looking for you  ;D
Title: Re: Middlesbrough Cemeteries
Post by: June Jones on Saturday 05 April 08 10:16 BST (UK)
I want to say a big Thank you to Madpants.
I will be Phoning Middlesbrough next week to get full details of Annie Farrell,    no we dont have a Death Cert for her
only a Marriage Cert...but the info you sent me sounds very much like her.
Though i was born in Middlesbrough many moons ago,  and now live in Kent..its been hard to find any details on my-gran.
BIG-BIG thank you MADPANTS..June.
Title: Re: Middlesbrough Cemeteries
Post by: madpants on Saturday 05 April 08 15:47 BST (UK)
You're welcome  ;D :-[

If the ladies at Acklam give you a grave ref from the info on the death cert then PM me and I (we) will go have a look see with camera for you.  Your grandparents may be together, fingers crossed  ;D
Title: Re: Middlesbrough Cemeteries
Post by: Nutty1966 on Saturday 05 April 08 17:43 BST (UK)
I want to come but the kids are now on Easter hols for two weeks  :'( so can you wait???


J
Title: Re: Middlesbrough Cemeteries
Post by: madpants on Saturday 05 April 08 17:55 BST (UK)
I'm sure we can work it out Jane  ;)
Title: Re: Middlesbrough Cemeteries
Post by: June Jones on Saturday 05 April 08 18:59 BST (UK)
BIG  HELLO  TO  MADPANTS.
You are a little darling..i will also cross my fingers & let you know of the
out-come.
Cant thank you enough Madpants,  regards & best wishes..June.
Title: Re: Middlesbrough Cemeteries
Post by: webeyer on Wednesday 23 April 08 21:35 BST (UK)
Hi
I'm looking for the Hopkins, Rafferty and O'Rourke Families, if someone can help it would be great (more than great!)
Owen Hopkins died in 1895 .. I can't find him anywhere.
Thomas Rafferty died 1917, his wife Mary died around 1899, his father was Patrick, his mother
Anything at all would be a huge help,
                       Many Thanks
                               Helga
Title: Re: Middlesbrough Cemeteries
Post by: Ecneps on Wednesday 23 April 08 23:41 BST (UK)
Hi Helga,

Were they all living in Middlesbrough?

Tees valley indexes don't show any of them, although I saw the death reg for Thomas in 1917 Middlesbrough on freebmd.  Have you got his death cert to show his address?

Barbara
Title: Re: Middlesbrough Cemeteries
Post by: webeyer on Wednesday 23 April 08 23:56 BST (UK)
Hi!
No, at least not yet ... its been on order for weeks, i think they have 'improved the system, it now takes five times longer than it did a few months back!!
I have Stokton, Thornaby and middlesbrough for the Families?
Thanks for taking the trouble!
Title: Re: Middlesbrough Cemeteries
Post by: webeyer on Thursday 24 April 08 00:02 BST (UK)
On the 1901 census his address is 9 red row, thornaby ... the family had lived there for years (20 - odd) ...........does that help?
                               helga
Title: Re: Middlesbrough Cemeteries
Post by: Ecneps on Thursday 24 April 08 00:33 BST (UK)
Thornaby would have come under Stockton district, but the freebmd entry says Middlesbrough. 

Maybe he died in Mbro hospital, but could be buried in Thornaby if his family was there.  Will have to wait for the cert...

ps what was his mother's name - missed off your question?  :)
Barbara

Title: Re: Middlesbrough Cemeteries
Post by: webeyer on Thursday 24 April 08 00:40 BST (UK)
Hi again... sorry, I didn't realise!
It was Mary Ann Rafferty nee O'Rourke. This family is really tricky to pin down! Thanks for your help........
                                  Helga
                                 
Title: Re: Middlesbrough Cemeteries
Post by: Ecneps on Thursday 24 April 08 01:31 BST (UK)
so is the only other Middlesbrough connection Thomas & Mary's marriage there in 1892? 

Where did Owen Hopkins live?
Title: Re: Middlesbrough Cemeteries
Post by: webeyer on Thursday 24 April 08 01:47 BST (UK)
Hi,
he lived at 6 Queen Street.Conside and Knitsley .... Lanchester.
           I think I'm going to invest in a map and get their locations 'pinned', the trouble is, it seems like their addresses changed although they didn't move ... if you know what I mean. (very confused here!lol)
Title: Re: Middlesbrough Cemeteries
Post by: Ecneps on Thursday 24 April 08 01:55 BST (UK)
Conside & Knitsley is not really near Middlesbrough  :)

try genuki gazetteer
http://www.rootschat.com/links/03am/

if you move the map around you'll see Middlesbrough and Thornaby

Barbara
Title: Re: Middlesbrough Cemeteries
Post by: webeyer on Thursday 24 April 08 02:18 BST (UK)
Scheesh!! Thanks Barbara, I really need to get a grip, I should have realised!
Thanks for your help,
                              Best Wishes
                                            Helga
Title: Re: Middlesbrough Cemeteries
Post by: Ecneps on Thursday 24 April 08 02:30 BST (UK)
Hi Helga,

You'll need to get the death dates before trying to find where they're buried.  Freebmd isn't complete, so it means checking the full GRO index

Barbara  :)
Title: Re: Middlesbrough Cemeteries
Post by: webeyer on Thursday 24 April 08 09:14 BST (UK)
Thanks again for taking time on this for me, I'll do as you suggest .... assuming the certs ever get here!
                                   Best wishes
                                        Helga
Title: Re: Middlesbrough Cemeteries
Post by: madpants on Thursday 24 April 08 17:03 BST (UK)
Did you order the certs from the GRO or Middlesbrough?

The GRO seem to be taking an age at the moment.  If you need any more from the Middlesbrough area try

http://www.middlesbrough-indexes.co.uk/

and if you need any from the Lanchester area (Durham)

http://www.durham.gov.uk/gro/newgro.nsf/search?open&C0932143180418042007$

I order from these and they are soooo much quicker than the GRO, also with the TeesValley indexes you can email queries to make sure it's the right cert before ordering.
Title: Re: Middlesbrough Cemeteries
Post by: webeyer on Thursday 24 April 08 17:21 BST (UK)
Hi
thats great, thanks .... I'm going to do exactly that! The GRO are getting beyond a joke, I've had a couple of certs on 'order' for nearly a month now!!
Last year it  took about 10 days at the very latest! Its driving me nuts!!
 Cheers! Helga
Title: Re: Middlesbrough Cemeteries
Post by: nasty netty on Friday 19 September 08 15:52 BST (UK)
HI
Not sure if this is any help. im researching the middlesbrough  cemetry for sarah hannah Ableson formerly Watson o.n.d quater  1915. no luck yet.
their is 6 cemetry for this area
linthorpe cemetry
thorntree cemetry
north ormbsby cemetry.
saint josephs
then 2 roman catholics not sure where they are in middlesbrough.
i didnt know of the quakers cemetry. i just presumed they were in non catholic  cemetries .
Can i just say i dont live far from thornaby cemetry. if any one would want pics of headstones just let me know. im always muching around their.
my little get away from everything. my hubby calls me the strange one.
not far from the truth. xxxx
Title: Re: Middlesbrough Cemeteries
Post by: kiwichris on Tuesday 24 March 09 01:11 GMT (UK)
Hi I alive in New Zealand and are trying to find a  cemetery  record of one of my Great Grandfathers children that died.
My G/Grandfather was Jonathan Holland his wife was Elizabeth Emily Holland they had a child that died between 1888-1900 and was buried at Linthorpe Middlesbrough at a very young age. Would any one have any cemetery records for that time, I don't have the name of the child.
Any help would be very much appreciated  Chris Holland
Title: Re: Middlesbrough Cemeteries
Post by: webeyer on Tuesday 24 March 09 01:34 GMT (UK)
Hi Chris
I found a Marriage for Johnathan Holland and Elizabeth Emily Claxton listed for the period April/May/June 1889 in Middlesbro'. There are a few children buried for the period you are asking about:
Mary Holland Age 0 December 1889
Harry Holland Age 0 December 1890
Gertrude Holland Age 0 December 1892
Henry Holland Age 3 June 1894
John Holland Age 0 June 1894
Arthur Holland Age 0 March 1899
Unfortunately the listing only gives Middlesbro' as the place, I can't tell you which child was defiantly buried at Linthorpe.
I'm hoping that one of the above names might link in with an oft used family name.
In any event, hope this helps,
Best Wishes
      Helga
Title: Re: Middlesbrough Cemeteries
Post by: webeyer on Tuesday 24 March 09 01:47 GMT (UK)
Hi Chris
just a thought, if you connect to www.teesvalley-indexes.co.uk you will be able to do a search for the child.
They have a great verification system in place  and are very helpful. If you tell them you are looking for the child of Johnathan and Elizabeth Holland (having given them the names etc of the children you suspect he/she could be) they should be able to help locate your child.
All the best
Helga
Title: Re: Middlesbrough Cemeteries
Post by: Peter Kilburn on Monday 30 March 09 09:17 BST (UK)
Morning All

Is there anybody anticipating contacting Acklam cemetery office in the near future or does anybody know if the office has an email address ?

I'm looking for my great-grandparents who died in the early 1930's, they being

George Kilburn died on the 10-3-1930 at Loftus aged 76yrs
Ellen Kilburn     died on the 11-1-1931 at Middlesbrough aged 80yrs

Though George died at Loftus the Register office at Guisborough tell me that they have no record of him.

TiA  Peter
Title: Re: Middlesbrough Cemeteries
Post by: nasty netty on Thursday 02 April 09 23:54 BST (UK)
hi snowflake
do you know if any of the mcabes your looking for. could have been buried in thornaby cemetry. just i was their a couple of days ago. and came across mcabes not far from my nannas name sticks as her name mcgurk if so i can look for you just let me know netty
Title: Re: Middlesbrough Cemeteries
Post by: madpants on Sunday 05 April 09 16:29 BST (UK)
Just to update the thread, I rang Acklam for Peter, Ellen Kilburn is in Linthorpe and I'll be taking Ecneps for a jaunt very soon  ;D ;)  However George is still MIA  no sign from Guisborough, no sign in Middlesbrough....what did they do with him?
Title: Re: Middlesbrough Cemeteries
Post by: Ecneps on Sunday 05 April 09 16:55 BST (UK)
George Kilburn's death ref from the GRO is 1930 March Qu Guisborough 9d 575 - so he certainly died then, and Guisborough or Middlesbrough should have the death cert, but where was he buried??  Have you tried Redcar & Cleveland cemeteries office?  If not will phone them tomorrow.

Barbara
Title: Re: Middlesbrough Cemeteries
Post by: Peter Kilburn on Sunday 05 April 09 21:57 BST (UK)
The Bereavement Services Manager at Guisborough, Iain, was most diligent in his search for George, he suggested George may be in a church yard, but with the family not being particularly religious I wonder, 

Peter
Title: Re: Middlesbrough Cemeteries
Post by: bombergirl on Saturday 06 June 09 05:40 BST (UK)
Hi I am trying to find where my uncle John A O'hara might  be buried in Middlesbrough. He died in 1936 aged 6 and was at the time living in Ernest Street Middlesbrough. I know he had been in hospital at the time of his death but not sure which one. There is a death certificate at the middlesbrough office, so I know this is when he died.....even my mum doesn't know where he was buried. Can anyone help at all ?
Title: Re: Middlesbrough Cemeteries
Post by: diggerman2 on Saturday 06 June 09 18:29 BST (UK)
Bombergirl - this is the cemeteries and cremation page taken from middlesbrough councils website .
as long as you have the name(s) and death date(s) of the person/people in question , they should be able to tell you if the person /people is buried in any of their cemeteries.
if they are , they should be able to tell you which cemetery , and give you a grave number.

http://www.middlesbrough.gov.uk/ccm/content/community-and-living/1life-events/2cemeteries---cremation/contact-us.en
Title: Re: Middlesbrough Cemeteries
Post by: bombergirl on Saturday 06 June 09 23:59 BST (UK)
thanks diggaman. I will check that out.....being in Australia it is hard to find these web sites out so thank you again
Denise
Title: Re: Middlesbrough Cemeteries
Post by: diggerman2 on Sunday 07 June 09 11:31 BST (UK)
no worries bombergirl.
i work in cemeteries (not in middlesbrough) , and i know that our office staff are very obliging .
how we do it - is like i said , the office staff check it out on database , and depending what ppl want - they either send out all the details , plus a plan of the cemetery with directions to find the grave (in case the ppl wanna come while the cemetery staff are not present) , or they arrange for the cemetery staff to meet with them and locate the grave.
if (as in your case) there isn't much chance of a visit , we normally photograph the gravestone (if there is one) and send it on to said ppl.
Title: Re: Middlesbrough Cemeteries
Post by: madpants on Sunday 07 June 09 11:50 BST (UK)
Middlesbrough staff are very obliging and will put out a grave marker if you ask them to but I've not heard of them going with you, they are extremely busy.  They will give you a detailed plan.  It's usually Ecneps, Nutty and me that go to find them for people  ;D
Title: Re: Middlesbrough Cemeteries
Post by: bombergirl on Sunday 07 June 09 13:25 BST (UK)
Thanks again diggaman .I will email the council department and see if they can locate where might be buried.
Title: Re: Middlesbrough Cemeteries
Post by: bombergirl on Sunday 07 June 09 13:27 BST (UK)
thanks for that info Madpants. If I can locate the place where he was buried I might ask for your help with a photo at some stage , if it is not too much trouble :D.

Denise
Title: Re: Middlesbrough Cemeteries
Post by: madpants on Sunday 07 June 09 16:38 BST (UK)
No problem at all bombergirl, we like nothing better than a walk around a graveyard  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Middlesbrough Cemeteries
Post by: Ecneps on Sunday 07 June 09 17:11 BST (UK)
Preferably when it's sunny  :D
Title: Re: Middlesbrough Cemeteries
Post by: diggerman2 on Sunday 07 June 09 22:15 BST (UK)
i can relate to that
digging in the rain aint pleasant at all.
Title: Re: Middlesbrough Cemeteries
Post by: Ecneps on Sunday 07 June 09 22:32 BST (UK)
We don't dig 'em up :o :o

Just take pics of their headstones, although on the last couple of outings, sadly we didn't find any, had to make do with pics of the general area  :(
Title: Re: Middlesbrough Cemeteries
Post by: diggerman2 on Sunday 07 June 09 22:57 BST (UK)
just commenting on the difference the weather makes whilst i'm doing a "dig".
i always think thats an anti-climax , locating a grave for somebody (especially if they've travelled from a long way away) only to find it hasn't got a headstone
Title: Re: Middlesbrough Cemeteries
Post by: louib76 on Friday 12 June 09 11:41 BST (UK)
Hi everyone

i am new to this caper and am just looking for a bit of advice or help with my family,   am trying to confirm if a death which is registered is actually that of my GGG grandfather.  His details are John Mckeone
   
Date of burial:    10 Jan 1883
Place of burial:     Middlesbrough
    New Linthorpe Cemetery
How  do i confirm if this is my relative? I live in Australia so am unable to just pop down to the cemetery to check unfortunately. 

thank you for your help
Title: Re: Middlesbrough Cemeteries
Post by: Ecneps on Friday 12 June 09 13:05 BST (UK)
Hi,

Welcome to Rootschat  :)

You could try phoning or emailing Middlesbrough cemeteries department to see if there are any more details about his burial, names of relatives etc
Cemeteries and Crematorium Office,
Teesside Crematorium,
Acklam Road,
Middlesbrough
TS5 7HD
Tel.     01642 817725
E-mail  bereavementservices [at] middlesbrough.gov.uk

I have checked the death details on www.middlesbrough-indexes.co.uk
the reference is M-J-16-0-394  JOHN MCKEONE 1883 
you could ask Middlesbrough Registrar to check for any known details for you
Middlesbrough Register Office
Tel: 01642 729004E
Email: register [at] middlesbrough.gov.uk

If it's the right one, and you get a grave number from the cemeteries office, (hopefully they can tell you if there's a gravestone), some of us will go and take a photo of the grave for you

Kind regards
Barbara
Title: Re: Middlesbrough Cemeteries
Post by: louib76 on Friday 12 June 09 14:07 BST (UK)
Oh barbara you are the best.

I have contacted the middlesbrough register and they have confirmed that it is the death of My relative!!  fantastic.  I have just emailed the cemetery's board and asked them to give me a grave number.

can you let me know how and where i would go to ask someone to visit the grave site when i have a number.

thanks again

Louise
Title: Re: Middlesbrough Cemeteries
Post by: Ecneps on Friday 12 June 09 19:59 BST (UK)
Just post the grave number here, it will be me, madpants and possibly nutty1966, we often go to Linthorpe cemetery (well, any in the local area) to take photos for people, and will do it as soon as we can!


Kind regards
Barbara
 :) :)
Title: Re: Middlesbrough Cemeteries
Post by: louib76 on Monday 15 June 09 14:31 BST (UK)
Hi

I have just received a grave number back from teeside crematorium.The grave number is 2104X in Linthorpe Cemetery.

Hope you can help me with my search next time you visit the cemetery.

Kind regards

louise
Title: Re: Middlesbrough Cemeteries
Post by: Ecneps on Monday 15 June 09 14:34 BST (UK)
Hi Louise

Just looked and found it on my map.  I can get there on Wednesday, it's just a few minutes down the road.  Did they say if there was a headstone or not?

Barbara
Title: Re: Middlesbrough Cemeteries
Post by: louib76 on Monday 15 June 09 14:47 BST (UK)
no they didnt say.  i can re email them and ask again
Title: Re: Middlesbrough Cemeteries
Post by: Ecneps on Monday 15 June 09 15:08 BST (UK)
No it's ok, will call at the office for a detailed plan of X section before we go  :)

Title: Re: Middlesbrough Cemeteries
Post by: Ecneps on Wednesday 17 June 09 15:27 BST (UK)
Hi Louise,

Have been to Linthorpe Cemetery with Madpants this morning.  Unfortunately there wasn't a headstone for your gt.grandad, but I took some photos of the area so you can see where he is at rest.

Will email the photos and cemetery plan

Kind regards
Barbara
 :)
Title: Re: Middlesbrough Cemeteries
Post by: smiffy13 on Monday 22 March 10 17:08 GMT (UK)
this probably sounds like a really stupid question to someone who knows the area, but is the Acklam Rd cemetery an extension of Linthorpe cemetery?  Can you walk between the two?


I'm asking because the NBI has thrown up a couple of names of rellies buried at Linthorpe (this is late 19th/early 20th century).  I doubt they ever had headstones but one day I'll find out where they are.

I also know I have some 20th century rellies buried somewhere around there...   I remember walking along Acklam Rd to see my gt grandfather's grave when I was very small (this would have been early 1960's...  he died in 1935)  I haven't been back to M'bro since the 1970's & doubt I could find it now.
 
I've emailed M'bro to get my gt grandfather's grave number & hope to visit sometime in the next couple of weeks.  I'd like to see where the older graves are too, if its not going to be too much for one day (200 mile round trip, and I'm hoping to get to the archives too)



Title: Re: Middlesbrough Cemeteries
Post by: Ecneps on Monday 22 March 10 18:04 GMT (UK)
Hi Smiffy

Welcome to Rootschat  :)

The eastern end of Linthorpe cemetery is bounded by the northern end of Acklam Road, if that helps, not to be confused with Acklam Cemetery which is at the southern end of Acklam Road.
The two cemeteries are just over a mile apart

map here: http://www.rootschat.com/links/089b/

Middlesbrough office should be able to email you plans showing where the graves are, if you ask them, they are in the process of marking the plans to show if there are headstones or not.  Some of the older graves don't have headstones, some have been removed and the plots re-used.  With plans, it shouldn't take you too long to find the ones you want.

Barbara  :)
Title: Re: Middlesbrough Cemeteries
Post by: smiffy13 on Monday 22 March 10 18:39 GMT (UK)
Hi Barbara

Many thanks for getting back to me so quickly.  I wasn't sure where Acklam cemetery was, just the address Acklam Rd - and I know its quite a long road but I couldn't see any other cemeteries. 

I think my gt granddad will be in Linthorpe then. I remember walking with my mum & gran along Acklam Rd a few times, from my gran's house on Maldon Rd, into the town centre.  My memory is obviously associating that part of the cemetery with gt grandad's grave, so that's why I think he's in there.  Fairly near the road, at the end of a row.

It will be interesting to see if I've remembered correctly! 

Vicky
Title: Re: Middlesbrough Cemeteries
Post by: Ecneps on Monday 22 March 10 19:06 GMT (UK)
Hi Vicky,

Hopefully all will be clearer when you get the grave numbers from the cemetery office.  When you've made another reply on here, you'll be able to send pms (personal messages) by clicking on the little green scroll under someone's name -  if you do that and send me your email address I will email you a general plan of Linthorpe cemetery showing all the sections, the more detailed section plans you can get from the cemetery office.  You'll need those as it's quite a large cemetery, if you only have the one day to do that plus a visit to the archives in the town centre.

Barbara  :)
Title: Re: Middlesbrough Cemeteries
Post by: kiwichris on Tuesday 23 March 10 06:45 GMT (UK)
Hi Guys
            I Live in New Zealand and are trying to find some information about my great grandparents. In the 1911 census they where living at 17 South Tce Linthorpe Middlesbrough there names were Jonathan and Elizabeth Emily Holland,Its says there were 2 children that have died. The question I wanted to ask is how can I find out there names,date of birth etc, I have looked up Free BMD but there are two many Hollands in that date period and I would just be guessing,any help would really be appreciated. Some facts about them are:
Jonathan and Elizabeth Emily Holland
Married : 1884 Middlesbrough
Living Children:  Charles Holland  Born 1891  (Died in NZ)
                         Ethel Holland     Born 1893
                         Florrie Holland    Born 1896
                         Eva Holland        Born 1900

                              Thank you for any help in finding out the names etc of the two children that died
                                                                    Many Many  Thanks     Chris Holland
                                                                                                   kiwichris2@gmail.com
Title: Re: Middlesbrough Cemeteries
Post by: Ecneps on Tuesday 23 March 10 09:29 GMT (UK)
Hi Chris,

welcome to rootschat  :)


The parents' marriage was in 1889, Jonathan Holland to Elizabeth Emily Claxton

Freebmd shows about 10 infant deaths for the surname Holland in Middlesbrough from 1889 to 1911, the only way to find out if their mother's maiden name was Claxton is by checking with the register office, who only confirm those details if you are going to buy the certificates.

Perhaps you could email Middlesbrough register office to ask if any of those children had a mother Emily with maiden name Claxton
register [at] middlesbrough.gov.uk

or you could email Middlesbrough cemeteries office to ask if they can give you parent information from their burial details
contact details given a few replies earlier on this page

Barbara  :)





Title: Re: Middlesbrough Cemeteries
Post by: Ecneps on Tuesday 23 March 10 09:35 GMT (UK)
Hi Chris,

I see that you asked this same question a year ago, and Helga gave you this reply:

just a thought, if you connect to www.teesvalley-indexes.co.uk you will be able to do a search for the child.
They have a great verification system in place  and are very helpful. If you tell them you are looking for the child of Johnathan and Elizabeth Holland (having given them the names etc of the children you suspect he/she could be) they should be able to help locate your child.
All the best
Helga

Did you get in touch with Middlesbrough register office through the teesvalley website?

Barbara
   
Title: Re: Middlesbrough Cemeteries
Post by: smiffy13 on Tuesday 23 March 10 10:43 GMT (UK)
Good morning Barbara,
I have got a grave number from M'bro - such a quick reply, what super service.
Its in C section, at Linthorpe.  She is sending me a plan - thank you for your offer, however I'll wait & see what she sends out.
Vicky
Title: Re: Middlesbrough Cemeteries
Post by: smiffy13 on Tuesday 23 March 10 10:49 GMT (UK)
Chris,
just to confirm what you have been told by Helga & Barbara...  I have been in touch with the registrars via TeesValley.  I asked them to confirm whether the parents of child xxx [using their reference number] were yyy & zzz.  They were happy to do this & I didn't have to buy any certificates.  They are not (apparently) allowed to divulge any information, so wouldn't TELL you the parents names, but are happy to confirm (or otherwise) the names you supply.

Have you made up a shortlist of possibles, comparing births with deaths, and especially ruling out certain births as they are too close in date  to those you already know about?
(eg) I'd suspect births in 1889/1890, around 1898, and anything after 1901.

Hope this helps

Vicky
Title: Re: Middlesbrough Cemeteries
Post by: kiwichris on Wednesday 24 March 10 22:39 GMT (UK)
Hi Vicky and Barbara
Thank you both for such a quick reply. I have done a search with Free BMD and found eight possibility's
Deaths:
1889 Mary Holland                  Middlesbrough  9d 409
1892 Gertrude Holland            Middlesbrough  9d 395
1899 Arthur Holland                Middlesbrough  9d 350
1901 John William Holland       Middlesbrough  9d 386
1905 Lydia Holland                  Middlesbrough  9d 381
1908 Robert Samuel Holland   Middlesbrough   9d 401
1910 Annie Holland                 Middlesbrough   9d 406
1911 Mary Holland                  Middlesbrough   9d 366
But when I  try and look them up on www.teesvalley-indexes.co.uk I can only find Arthur Holland and Robert Samuel Holland so are unable to have the others checked if they have parents Jonathan and Elizabeth Emily Holland (Claxton)?

Chris
Title: Re: Middlesbrough Cemeteries
Post by: madpants on Wednesday 24 March 10 22:52 GMT (UK)
I looked on freeBMD and found 13 Hollands between the ages of 0 and 6 died in M'bro between 1889 and 1911

you seem to be missing

Harry  0   Dec Q 1890
Henry  3  Jun Q 1894
John    0  Jun Q 1894
George Frederick 0 Mar Q 1901
Annie Stone  0 Jun Q 1901
Title: Re: Middlesbrough Cemeteries
Post by: kiwichris on Thursday 25 March 10 04:18 GMT (UK)
Hi Madpants,
                     They had to be born in Middlesbrough and the dates not clash with the living ones
                                                        Chris
Title: Re: Middlesbrough Cemeteries
Post by: kiwichris on Thursday 25 March 10 04:40 GMT (UK)
Hi
    I may have made a bit of a break threw. I searched the BIRTHS of the 8 Children on www.teesvalley-indexes.co.uk and found that only Arthur and Robert Samuel Holland had "Contact Middlesbrough" and the others it said "Contact Guisborough?" even though Free BMD said all where born in Middlesbrough. I have asked Teevalley if Arthur or Robert S Holland had parents Jonathan and Elizabeth Emily Holland (Nee Claxton). I know all there children were born in Middlesbrough.Do you think I may be on the right track?

                                                                                   Chris
Title: Re: Middlesbrough Cemeteries
Post by: Ecneps on Thursday 25 March 10 08:45 GMT (UK)
Hi Chris,

On freebmd, Middlesbrough is the registration district, click on it and you will see what areas are covered, or click here: http://www.ukbmd.org.uk/genuki/reg/districts/middlesbrough.html

Teesvalley indexes cover Middlesbrough, Guisborough, Hartlepool and Stockton districts, so any found with a Middlesbrough reference number are more likely to have been born in Middlesbrough itself.

Hopefully as I said before, Middlesbrough register office will be able to help you further

Barbara  :)
Title: Re: Middlesbrough Cemeteries
Post by: kiwichris on Thursday 25 March 10 21:21 GMT (UK)
Hi,
     Just got a reply from register AT middlesbrough.gov.uk (Tees Valley Indexes) and Arthur Holland Death 1899 is one of the children but Robert Samuel Holland parents were not Jonathan and Elizabeth Emily Holland.So that is a huge break through for me, but when I search the other names on Tees Valley Indexes  only Lydia Holland  came up, and have just ask about her parents waiting for reply.
1889 Mary Holland
1892 Gertrude Holland
1901 John William Holland
1910 Annie Holland
1911 Mary Holland 
come up in Free BMD but not Tees Valley Indexes ?
But I am so great-full for your help so far and one day I may get to come over to the UK and see the grave
                                                    Chris
Title: Re: Middlesbrough Cemeteries
Post by: Ecneps on Thursday 25 March 10 22:31 GMT (UK)
Hi Chris

You would have to ask the reg. office about the ones not showing on their index, some may not be completely indexed online, the website should show what coverage there is

If you manage to find out the cemetery and grave numbers for the right children, (and whether there are headstones) from Middlesbrough cemeteries office, we can go and look for them and take a photograph for you    ( bereavementservices [at] middlesbrough.gov.uk )


Barbara
Title: Re: Middlesbrough Cemeteries
Post by: kiwichris on Friday 26 March 10 18:32 GMT (UK)
Hi Barbara
                    I e-mailed bereavementservices [at] middlesbrough.gov.uk the other day and asked if there was any way of finding out the parents names of the other children on my list and got a great reply:

Good morning Chris
I can certainly have a look in our records, but have to prioritise work, so burial duties come first.
I will have a go later today and see what I can find and feed them through to you as I locate them.    Unfortunately we are not computerised, and we manage 6 cemeteries.
Will get back to you asap.

Kind regards
Carole Davis
Cemetery Supervisor

So I will wait and see what she finds and then ask about grave numbers etc as I would love to have a photo of the graves.
I cannot believe the amount of help I am getting from you guys over in the UK. So a big thank you
                                                                                Chris
Ps If I don't hear in a few days I will ask for the grave number of Arthur Holland
Title: Re: Middlesbrough Cemeteries
Post by: Ecneps on Friday 26 March 10 18:54 GMT (UK)
That's good, I've always found the Middlesbrough register office and cemeteries office staff very helpful.

There are a lot of us on Rootschat who go to the local cemeteries to find and take photos of graves, and Linthorpe and Acklam cemeteries are very near where I live, so it's no trouble.

Maybe you'll be able to help someone with some N Z research   :)

Barbara
 :)
Title: Re: Middlesbrough Cemeteries
Post by: june1937 on Tuesday 30 March 10 20:31 BST (UK)
Hello im new to this.
How can i find out which Cemetery my G- Parents are Buried in Middlesbrough.
My g-dad Patrick Farrell i believe died abt 1917 i would also like to believe my
gran  Annie Farrell is Buried with him..no so sure when she died though,
we think abt 1935/1936 ,   would be so greatful of any help.
I did phone Acklum cemetery once..but thy didnt want to know.
Kind regards...June Jones.
Title: Re: Middlesbrough Cemeteries
Post by: Ecneps on Tuesday 30 March 10 20:50 BST (UK)
Hello June,

Welcome to rootschat  :)

Tees valley indexes has the death for Patrick 1917 Middlesbrough, and one for an Annie in 1936, you could order a copy of the certificates from Middlesbrough register office, contact details on the website:
http://www.middlesbrough-indexes.co.uk/search.php

I'm not sure when you contacted Acklam cemeteries office, but they should be able to tell you which cemetery and the grave number, they are usually very helpful, contact details given earlier


Kind regards
Barbara
Title: Re: Middlesbrough Cemeteries
Post by: june1937 on Tuesday 30 March 10 21:07 BST (UK)
Big thank you Barbara for your quick reply..very kind of you.
It was last year when i phoned Acklum Cemetery..as i only had the surname
of my grand-parents  they was not a lot they could do,  very short & sweet.
I did go into Middlesbrough Index for the birth of my G-Mother,  thats also
another dead end i have come across..1911 census say she was born in
Middlesbrough but thy have no record of her birth..
But thank you again Babs,  you have been most kind,    June.
Title: Re: Middlesbrough Cemeteries
Post by: Ecneps on Tuesday 30 March 10 21:15 BST (UK)
It might be better to get the death certificates first, asking the register office to check any known details before buying them to be certain they're the right ones.  Then knowing the exact date of death will help the cemeteries office staff to find the burials more quickly. 

Just ask if you need any more help with this

Barbara  :)
Title: Re: Middlesbrough Cemeteries
Post by: june1937 on Wednesday 31 March 10 12:21 BST (UK)
   Thank you again barbara.
   I will see what i can find out on the death Cert's
   I have tried before..but again no luck  ( ha ha )    June
Title: Re: Middlesbrough Cemeteries
Post by: june1937 on Wednesday 31 March 10 14:59 BST (UK)
   I need help...
   Looking for the buriel place of my grand-parents.
   Patrick & Annie Farrell,   Patrick died abt 1917 in Middlesbrough
   & Annie abt 1936.   kind regards     June.
Title: Re: Middlesbrough Cemeteries
Post by: Ecneps on Wednesday 31 March 10 15:46 BST (UK)
June,
I have already given you the information to get the death certificates for both Patrick 1917 and Annie 1936 - all you have to do is contact Middlesbrough register office and get the certificates, then when you know the death dates, contact Middlesbrough Cemeteries office and they will give you the burial places and grave numbers.

What is it you need further help with??

Barbara
Title: Re: Middlesbrough Cemeteries
Post by: Ecneps on Wednesday 31 March 10 15:56 BST (UK)
freebmd has the deaths, which narrows the deaths down to quarters of the year:

July-Sept 1917   Farrell    Patrick    aged 53    Middlesbro Volume  9d Page   621

October-Dec 1936  Farrell   Annie    aged 66    Middlesbro'    9d   628

Just contact the cemeteries office with these dates (they don't need the reference numbers, that's just for ordering certs from the GRO = general register office)  and ask for cemeteries and grave numbers
Teesside Crematorium,
Acklam Road,
Middlesbrough
TS5 7HD
Tel.     01642 817725
E-mail  bereavementservices [at] middlesbrough.gov.uk

Barbara
Title: Re: Middlesbrough Cemeteries
Post by: june1937 on Thursday 01 April 10 11:57 BST (UK)
What can i say Barbara,   you have been an angel..thank you.
Kind regards & best wish's to you,  have a great Easter     June x
Title: Re: Middlesbrough Cemeteries
Post by: Ecneps on Thursday 01 April 10 13:26 BST (UK)
Thanks June, same to you, do let us know how you get on

Barbara  :)
Title: Re: Middlesbrough Cemeteries
Post by: HELEN15s on Monday 05 April 10 09:34 BST (UK)
This seems to be a cheek in asking you but I cannot seem to find anything online.
My great grandparents died in Linthorpe, Middlesborough and i'm trying to find out where they are buried.

My great grandfather is:Matthews Donaldson BOMPHRAY
born 13/1/1881, died 18/10/1943

My great grandmother is: Elizabeth Ross BOMPHRAY
nee McMillan born 10/9/1882, died 9/6/1948

With many thanks
Helen
Title: Re: Middlesbrough Cemeteries
Post by: kiwichris on Wednesday 07 April 10 23:40 BST (UK)
Hi Barbara
                I just got a E-mail back from Middlesbrough cemeteries office and they have given me some details of one of the sons:
  Arthur Holland 9877B  29/1/1899 - Linthorpe Cemetery - aged 5 months - 68 Milbank Street
and also details of my GG Grandparents (Arthur's Grandparents)
  173D
  6/2/1902 - Caroline Holland - aged 73 - 68 Milbank Street
  19/7/1903 - Robert Holland - aged 75 - Diamond Street
Would I be able to take you up on your kind offer and get a photo of there graves.
Middlesbrough cemeteries office have told me that they will keep looking for the other missing son/daughter
Many Thanks 
Chris Holland
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Title: Re: Middlesbrough Cemeteries
Post by: kiwichris on Thursday 08 April 10 22:47 BST (UK)
Hi Helen
              I have just been through a similar thing with my Tree.The advice Barbara gave me was to contact the cemeteries office (Contact details below) with the information you have and ask if they can tell you which cemeteries they are buried at, and grave numbers. I found they were fantastic to deal with. Hope this helps
Chris
                                                                                                                                                                                     Teesside Crematorium,
Acklam Road,
Middlesbrough
TS5 7HD
Tel.     01642 817725
E-mail  bereavementservices AT middlesbrough.gov.uk

Chris
Title: Re: Middlesbrough Cemeteries
Post by: Ecneps on Monday 12 April 10 00:40 BST (UK)
Hi Chris, and hello Helen and welcome to Rlootschat  :)

Sorry have been away on holiday for a week so have just seen your posts.

Yes Chris, will do my best to find that grave, not sure if it will be this week but will let you know

Helen, if you do as Chris advised, and contact the office to get the right cemetery and grave numbers, will do our best to help in the same way

Kind regards
Barbara
 :)
Title: Re: Middlesbrough Cemeteries
Post by: june1937 on Monday 12 April 10 17:11 BST (UK)
Just to let the very kind people who have helped me on my search for my
grand-parents Burial place.
I emailed the Bereavement Services..
They even sent me a map of where they are Buried & plot numbers.
Many..Many thanks again for your kind help.
Best wishes to one & all.                 June x
Title: Re: Middlesbrough Cemeteries
Post by: Ecneps on Monday 12 April 10 19:53 BST (UK)
Hi June,


Glad to hear the cemeteries office were able to help, they usually are very good
hope you manage to find the graves ok

Kind regards,
Barbara
 :)
Title: Re: Middlesbrough Cemeteries
Post by: DOUGS4 on Thursday 22 April 10 11:38 BST (UK)
I am trying to locate the final resting place of my sister Edna Mary Myers who died 24/6/1955 in Middlesbrough.I am not sure which cemetery she is buried in or what the procedures were in those days for burying suicides,any help would be appreciated.
Title: Re: Middlesbrough Cemeteries
Post by: angelfish58 on Thursday 22 April 10 13:30 BST (UK)
As you know the date you can e-mail  bereavementservices AT middlesbrough.gov.uk and they should be able to provide you with the details you want.
Title: Re: Middlesbrough Cemeteries
Post by: DOUGS4 on Thursday 22 April 10 14:13 BST (UK)
Many thanks for your helpfull suggestion,I will give it a shot.
Title: Re: Middlesbrough Cemeteries
Post by: kiwichris on Monday 26 April 10 00:48 BST (UK)
Hi Barbara
               I have been on holiday and have just got up to date with the post on "Middlesbrough Cemeteries"  and wanted to say it would be great to be able to get some photos of my relations graves.(When you are able to have a look).
Do you need my E-mail address?
Chris Holland
Title: Re: Middlesbrough Cemeteries
Post by: Ecneps on Wednesday 05 May 10 13:22 BST (UK)
Hi Chris,

Sorry for the delay, I have been away too, was just looking up the details to go to the cemetery this afternoon when I saw your reply!  Will let you know later today if I find anything, and will get your email after that - (by pm not on this board)

Barbara  :)
Title: Re: Middlesbrough Cemeteries
Post by: Ecneps on Wednesday 05 May 10 15:42 BST (UK)
Hi Chris,   

I called at the cemetery office for detailed section plans first, and although there were no headstones marked on them for your Hollands. went to have a look anyway as not all are yet marked on the plans. 

Unfortunately none for your Hollands, but I did take photos of the approximate places where the graves are, and can let you have the pics if you'd like them, I can also email you the plans showing the grave numbers.  if you would like them, please send me a personal message with your email address

Barbara
Title: Re: Middlesbrough Cemeteries
Post by: borofred on Friday 07 May 10 18:19 BST (UK)
Hi
If you contact the cemeteries office at Teesside Crematorium they will send you the grave number of the person you're looking for and a diagram of the cemetry layout with your person's grave marked on it
Title: Re: Middlesbrough Cemeteries
Post by: Ecneps on Friday 07 May 10 20:10 BST (UK)
Hi Fred

Yes, have given this information a few times earlier in the post, but will post again for anyone else looking:

Teesside Crematorium,
Acklam Road,
Middlesbrough
TS5 7HD
Tel.     01642 817725
E-mail  bereavementservices [at] middlesbrough.gov.uk


Staff are extremely helpful if you give them as much information as possible

Barbara  :)
Title: Re: Middlesbrough Cemeteries
Post by: Ecneps on Monday 10 May 10 17:55 BST (UK)
Hi Chris,

Could you let me know if you got the Linthorpe cemetery photos ok?

Barbara
Title: Re: Middlesbrough Cemeteries
Post by: diggerman2 on Saturday 22 May 10 09:45 BST (UK)
this probably sounds like a really stupid question to someone who knows the area, but is the Acklam Rd cemetery an extension of Linthorpe cemetery?  Can you walk between the two?


I'm asking because the NBI has thrown up a couple of names of rellies buried at Linthorpe (this is late 19th/early 20th century).  I doubt they ever had headstones but one day I'll find out where they are.

I also know I have some 20th century rellies buried somewhere around there...   I remember walking along Acklam Rd to see my gt grandfather's grave when I was very small (this would have been early 1960's...  he died in 1935)  I haven't been back to M'bro since the 1970's & doubt I could find it now.
 
I've emailed M'bro to get my gt grandfather's grave number & hope to visit sometime in the next couple of weeks.  I'd like to see where the older graves are too, if its not going to be too much for one day (200 mile round trip, and I'm hoping to get to the archives too)




Just a point on your "acklam road" enquiry - Acklam Cemetery in Middlesbrough is in the same grounds as Teesside Crematorium , and there is also a Cemetery in Acklam Road , Thornaby - which sometimes gets referred  to as "Acklam Road Cemetery".
Title: Re: Middlesbrough Cemeteries
Post by: briann1 on Wednesday 02 June 10 16:35 BST (UK)
hi all        i am trying to trace a william mckeon who died in a middlesborough shipyard in 1916 any info would be much appreciated as i have just found out his death was not in sunderland as first thougt
regards briann
Title: Re: Middlesbrough Cemeteries
Post by: Ecneps on Friday 04 June 10 20:34 BST (UK)
Hello Briann

Is he the William McKEOWN  who died aged 37 in March Quarter 1916 Middlesbrough  9d 740 (from freebmd)

If so, you could contact Middlesbrough cemeteries office to find out where he is buried, contact details earlier in this thread

If you wish to buy his death certificate, the above details will be needed if you order it from the GRO, or you could contact Middlesbrough register office and order through them


Kind regards
Barbara

Title: Re: Middlesbrough Cemeteries
Post by: briann1 on Friday 04 June 10 23:19 BST (UK)
thanks barbara    yes i think that is the correct william mckeon. I will send for his death certificate to find out if he died naturally at the shipyard or was killed in a accident.The certificate would tell me i hope, which shipyard he died at
                                                       thanks again   regards briann
Title: Re: Middlesbrough Cemeteries
Post by: Ecneps on Saturday 05 June 10 01:17 BST (UK)
That may not be him though, what else do you know about him? 

There is a William McKEON with wife Isabella in Sunderland in the 1911 census free index, and a William McKEOWN with wife Mary Ellen in Middlesbrough in 1911 census
It might be worth buying some credits to see the full details of both

If you know more about him,  to save your getting the wrong certificate, you can check for any known details eg age, occupation, widow's name, before buying the certificate, the GRO charges for this, (included in cert fee if correct), but Middlesbrough register office would do this free,


Barbara
Title: Re: Middlesbrough Cemeteries
Post by: briann1 on Saturday 05 June 10 09:29 BST (UK)
thanks again   barbara    I did not know of the middlesborough william mckeon and wife mary ellen. The william I am looking for is the one from sunderland  with wife isabella. He died between 1916 -1918 in a shipyard at first we summised it was at sunderland but could not find his death, then we found his last his last child stanely mckeon was born in middlesborough in 1915.So we thought it may have been a middlesborough shipyard,but dont not know how he died.His wife isabella remarried back in sunderland to a samuel atchesonin 1920. I did not know the M.R.O.check widows name for free.which of course would confirm correct william mckeon,   Thanks for that info.
                                                                                             regards brian 
Title: Re: Middlesbrough Cemeteries
Post by: MellyJane72 on Thursday 15 July 10 15:41 BST (UK)
Hi all, I am a new member.

Would anyone be able to help me find a burial inscription for a Mary Readman (possibly Redman) who died between 1861 and 1871 census please?  I have a death certificate but not 100% I have the right person as the place of death is documented as Durham.  She was married to a John Readman and her last place of residence was Ormesby, Cleveland (1861 census.

Does anyone know where people were buried at around this time?

Thanks Mel xxxx
Title: Re: Middlesbrough Cemeteries
Post by: Orielbenfro on Sunday 30 January 11 11:26 GMT (UK)
Anyone visiting Linthorpe Cemetery at some point. I would like to obtain a photo of the headstones of Gunner John William Stewart who died in Pembrokeshire 25 Jul 1940 as a member of 78 (The Duke of Lancasters Own Yeomanry) Medium Regt. Grave location is Section X. Grave 2002.
CWGC and full details of his death are known.
Rgds
Orielbenfro
ORIEL a welsh window on a surname
Title: Re: Middlesbrough Cemeteries
Post by: Ecneps on Tuesday 01 February 11 11:45 GMT (UK)
Hello Orielbenfro

The grave is listed on this website as having a headstone, John William Stewart grandson of WH Denham    http://www.rootschat.com/links/0bmi/

I have telephoned the Crematorium office who say that the grave is there but that there does not seem to be a headstone.   I will go and have a look sometime this week, and will take a photograph for you if I find there is a headstone still there.

Kind regards
Barbara
Title: Re: Middlesbrough Cemeteries
Post by: Orielbenfro on Tuesday 01 February 11 13:23 GMT (UK)
I will go and have a look sometime this week, and will take a photograph for you if I find there is a headstone still there.
Barbara
That would be most kind and well appreicated. There should be a CWGC headstone since he died during the W.W. 2whilst on active service, albeit that he died in a road tfc accident whilst testing a Morris 8 hp van.
Mni tks in advance.
Orielbenfro
ORIEL a welsh window on a surname
Title: Re: Middlesbrough Cemeteries
Post by: diggerman2 on Sunday 06 February 11 11:03 GMT (UK)
He's certainly there - on War commisions website

http://www.cwgc.org/search/casualty_details.aspx?casualty=2409263
Title: Re: Middlesbrough Cemeteries
Post by: Ecneps on Tuesday 08 February 11 11:55 GMT (UK)
Yes his grave is still there, but I couldn't find it in the X-section.  That part of the cemetery is given over to baby graves. 

I have telephoned the Crematorium office who say that the grave is there but that there does not seem to be a headstone. 

Today I have phoned the cemetery office again, and there has been some confusion, apparently there is another section with exactly the same numbers, and the grave is in the secion across the path from where I looked.  The office are going to mark the grave on a detailed plan, when I have collected that I will go and search again.

Barbara
Title: Re: Middlesbrough Cemeteries
Post by: Ecneps on Tuesday 08 February 11 13:30 GMT (UK)
The website I told you about has the headstone image available for you to order free of charge

http://www.gravestonephotos.com/public/gravedetails.php?available=yes&fullname=John%20William%20Stewart&grave=105775

all you have to do is give your name and email address

Barbara
Title: Re: Middlesbrough Cemeteries
Post by: Ecneps on Tuesday 08 February 11 14:57 GMT (UK)
Have visited the cemetery again and found the grave, but there is no CWGC headstone, just the family headstone for the Denhams, with John William Stewart's name at the bottom.

Please pm me your email address if you would like copies of the photos I took

Barbara
Title: Re: Middlesbrough Cemeteries
Post by: downswilliam on Wednesday 02 March 11 13:58 GMT (UK)
Hi.
Can someone please look up a grave listing for Eliza Jane Slee who died between 1874 and 1881 in Middlesbrough.                                                    Looks like she is missing from the BMD index.

Greatfull Thanks

Downswilliam.
Title: Re: Middlesbrough Cemeteries
Post by: madpants on Wednesday 16 March 11 18:11 GMT (UK)
Unfortunately it is very difficult to find a grave without the death cert or even a rough idea of when they died.  If you ring middlesbrough they like to know the date of death so they can find it in the records.  As far as I know they are not computerised and the ladies in the cemetery office have to look in the ledgers of the time, a broad search of those dates would not be possible.

Title: Re: Middlesbrough Cemeteries
Post by: Mirrannda on Saturday 02 April 11 16:47 BST (UK)
Hi all,

I recently got the plot number for my husband's great grandfather who was buried at Linthorpe Cemetery in April 1937.  We both went down there today to have a look but sadly there doesn't appear to be a headstone.  Just to double check things.  The number given to me was 9091A.  We found 9087-88 written on one headstone, next to that was 9089 but then there was a large space before there were a few others. 

Am I right in thinking that the grave sites run in sequence and that the grave I'm looking for would be approx. two strides to the right of 9089? 

Sorry if this seems like a dumb question but just wanted to make sure.  Thanks. :)
Title: Re: Middlesbrough Cemeteries
Post by: Ecneps on Monday 04 April 11 08:33 BST (UK)
Hello Miranda,

Yes the graves do run in sequence, did you get a detailed section A cemetery plan from the cemeteries office before you visited the cemetery? On my main plan of Linthorpe cemetery the A section you need goes from A8919 to A9812 so you were looking in the right place, though a phone call to the cemeteries office might confirm that there is no headstone for your gtgrandfather's grave. 

Kind regards,
Barbara
Title: Re: Middlesbrough Cemeteries
Post by: BA8501 on Friday 26 July 13 16:35 BST (UK)
I am delighted to have finally located my grandmother's brother, ANTHONY DURKIN, who settled, married and raised his family in Middlesbrough.  Anthony died early in 1931 and I am hoping someone can help me find where his is buried.  If it is at all possible, I would also be interested in the names and dates of any other people named DURKIN buried in the same cemetery.  I know he and his wife lost some of their children before they reached adulthood and there may have been other family members who preceded Anthony in settling in the area.  The Durkins are most likely buried in a Catholic cemetery.

Can anyone advise me about the layouts of the local cemeteries?  Was it customary to purchase a family plot where family members were buried?  Or would family graves be in different locations within the same cemetery?

Since many who post here are familiar with the local genealogy, is there any source of obituaries that can be accessed.  It would be great if I could obtain a bit more information about my grand-uncle and his family.

Thank you very much for any help.

Barbara
Title: Re: Middlesbrough Cemeteries
Post by: jessie11 on Wednesday 06 August 14 11:21 BST (UK)
I am searching for the grave of my great grandfather Henry Consitt. He died in March 1936 in Linthorpe, Middlesbrough. Can anyone offer advice on how to find his grave?
Title: Re: Middlesbrough Cemeteries
Post by: Nannawilk on Wednesday 06 August 14 20:51 BST (UK)
There is a Monumental Inscription in Linthorpe cemetery

In loving remembrance of Edward (Ted) husband of Mary CONSITT d Mar 31st 1936 aged 63 years. The above Mary d Sep 15th 1963 aged 84 yrs. Also their grandson Frederick PARKIN died in infancy

I know it's the wrong name but could be of interest.

That's the only CONSITT (or variants) listed

Nannawilk
Title: Re: Middlesbrough Cemeteries
Post by: jessie11 on Wednesday 06 August 14 22:04 BST (UK)
Thank you , it is a different name but still of interest. Hopefully i will find his resting place eventually.
Title: Re: Middlesbrough Cemeteries
Post by: boroclaire on Thursday 22 October 15 21:14 BST (UK)
Can anyone tell me of any Shippeys buried in Acklam cemetary please. I have located some in Linthorpe but im missing a couple so could be in Acklam. Thank you
Title: Re: Middlesbrough Cemeteries
Post by: madpants on Wednesday 10 February 16 19:42 GMT (UK)
If you have their approximate death date then a phonecall to the cemetery office based in Acklam cemetery could be really useful as they hold the burial records there and should be able to look them up for you.  :)