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Hi
I am looking for information on Duffy of Aghagah, Moyne, Co. Longford. Anyone know anything first hand through family? I have the census 1901 & 1911 plus the Griffiths info. Having difficulty finding marriage and birth certs in Killoe Parish for Duffy/Reilly for late 1800's.
Thanks a mill
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Which Duffy family are you researching ?
There are several Duffy households in the townland.
The first step is to follow up the census details by searching for a birth cert for one of the children to establish the mother's maiden name. Once you have located this, you can then start a search for the parents marriage cert, which will give you their father's names and take you a step back.
The townland of Aghagah is in the registration district of Granard, so that's what will be be listed on the BMD Index.
See : Introduction to Irish Records (http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,442233.0.html)
Shane
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Hi Shane,
Thanks for that. I have already searched under Granard records but there are so many Duffy's. The Duffys that I am looking for are specifically in Aghagah, 58 of them in the 1901 census. The area is under 1/4 sq mile and they were farming the area since at least 1854, so it looks as though they may all be related.
Every generation of numerous children are all named very common names including, James, Michael, Thomas, Bernard, Patrick, Joseph, John. There is no female variation of names and only one male variation. The male forename which is uncommon is Farrell, but there are Farrells in each Duffy Family.
Between the 1901 census and 1911 census most the older generation added a few years onto their age, I assume to avail of the pension earlier as the OAP act was introduced in 1908, therefore impossible to know exact DOB as even James Duffy, my great grandfather, a 28yr old in 1901 who should have been 38 in 1911 was listed as 42 yr old.
Also, the land maps of the area are divided 1 to 12, some numbers corresponding to less than an acre but the allotment numbers from 1901 and 1911 do not correspond or all the parents/siblings/cousins swapped land holdings which seems highly unlikely.
I can't work out who is related to who in the older generations as some of them had up to 11 children over a 25 year period and what could appear to be a niece or nephew could actually be a brother or sister.
Duffy's are still farming this area of land today, so my reason for posting was in hopes of a related family member to respond as they may have knowledge of who is who.
Thank you again. I wish I had all that info when I first started my family tree a few weeks ago, I had to learn the hard way.
Best regards.
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Have you any first names or other information that may identify the duffy you are looking for, my grandfather was Farrell Duffy from Aghagah and it is said that none of the duffys in Aghagah are not related despite the number of recurring names, We are looking for a Elenor and Cathy Duffy/McGovern from New York who my father was in touch with until they moved away.
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I am hoping someone may be able to help identify my Duffy/Mulloy ancestors from Longford, I believe.
my grandmother was Annie Mulloy who was born in lancashire and she had a sister called Mary Ellen and a brother called John, her parents were Bridget Duffy and John Mulloy from Longford. Bridget and Johns marriage certificate dated 1890 states that Bridget's father was Bernard Duffy a land agent (Dec'd ) and Johns father was also John Mulloy an outdoor Labourer. Any help/information would be gratefully apreciated.
Jacqui
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Hi History79
Sent you a message offline but unsure as to how this works. We are 2nd cousins - I think. Farrell Duffy's parents(James and Maggie) moved to Aghagah Moyne Co. Longford from Aughnacliffe, that is why there is no link to the other Duffy's in the area. Farrell was born in 1909 I think.
Please respond to my offline message with contact details. I have lots of info for you....here is a little of it....
The story of James & Maggie Duffy, of "The Heather Duffy's"..
Margaret Reilly, known as Maggie, grew up up in Rossduff, County Longford. After leaving school she worked as a milner in Lynch’s on Pound Street, Arvagh, four miles from Rossduff. Maggie, a young single girl, was promised a dowry of 200 pounds by an elderly female relative on the condition she marry a particular person whom she had never met. 200 pounds would have been an extraordinary amount of money in the 1890's and would have made Maggie a very wealthy woman for her time. When the man she was to marry arrived in the village, she was horrified to see an old man supported by two walking sticks, being helped out of the horse and trap. Within weeks she eloped with James Duffy, a young man whom she may have met at Arvagh fair, thus saving her from a life of misery being married off to an old man. With no dowry or place to live, they were given the family home, a two storey thatched house, in Aughagh by James's parents; Bernard Duffy and Catherine Fitzpatrick-Duffy, (like her daughter-in law, also hailing from Rossduff). Pat an older brother to James, was an agent for Singer and gave them a gift of a sewing machine as their wedding present, allowing Maggie to use her skills as a milner within the home. .
Maggie and James went on to have 11 children and by all accounts lived happily throughout their marriage. James's older brother Michael and Maggie's younger sister Katie lived with them for a period of time and Michael worked on the land with James for over 5 years before emigrating to America. They became known as the Heather Duffys by the local community due to a large tuft of heather growing by their home. Wild fuchsia grew by the entrance and they had pear, apple and golden egg fruit trees growing at the back of the house. Farming the land, they were completely self sufficient, they had horses, cattle, chickens, pigs and cut turf from a nearby bog to heat their home. Produce would have been traded at the nearby fair at Arvagh, just two and a half miles from the house. Water for the household and farm came from the Moyne well, which today Patrick Duffy, their grandchild, has pumped to his home which is located adjacent to the orginal family house. They would have enjoyed a very high standard of living for the time and their home was in the heart of activity in the community; with the national school, St Mary’s church at Colmcille, a tailor, blacksmith and a general shop called Smith's all in the local area. .
Sadly, James died young from injuries sustained while attempting to break up a fight. He was hit with one of the boards from the back of a carriage by two of the men involved in the fiight and never recovered. Maggie, broken hearted after James's death became ill, received treatment in Dublin but died shortly after James..
Following their deaths, their oldest child, Katie, then in her early twenties, raised her ten younger siblings, including Thomas and Farrell. The house which was on the main Longford road at the time, became known as the Ceili House, as nightly Ceili's were held in the home. People came from miles around to dance, play music and enjoy each other’s company. Three of James and Maggie's son's became Gardai,
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Hi History79
Sent you a message offline but unsure as to how this works. We are 2nd cousins - I think. Farrell Duffy's parents(James and Maggie) moved to Aghagah Moyne Co. Longford from Aughnacliffe, that is why there is no link to the other Duffy's in the area. Farrell was born in 1909 I think.
Please respond to my offline message with contact details. I have lots of info for you....here is a little of it....
New members now need 2 posts to use PM system so History79 may not be able to view and/or reply to you PM. Hopefully they will still have notifications for this thread enabled and soon see your post.
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Hi,
I think I was logged in as History 79 and forgot about it .Sorry I have not replied before this, As far as I am aware the only Duffy's in the lane I am related to, is James Duffy (Age 60 in the 1901 census) married to a Bridget Hourican. On current maps they are the second last house. The whole family shows up on the 1901 Census. in the 1911 some of the older children have left home. The griffith valuations have historical maps dated around 1847 which will show where the houses are. The Barony is Granard and the parish is Killoe. Here is a link http://www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/ . i believe we have to have 2 posts before we can pm. I am interested in showing this to my cousin and he may have more information and then get back to you
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Hi. I am related to Duffys and Houricans from the Moyne area. My Duffys married McKiernan, Corcoran, Donohoe. My Houricans married Corcoran and Hally. My Grandmother was Anne Corcoran, sister of Faye (Farrell) and cousin of all the Corcorans who lived on the hill at Moyne Crossroads.
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Doreen,
This might be of interest. Corcoran grave in Moyne
http://findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=pv&GRid=112240844&PIpi=120867944
Farrell Fay Cororan
Birth: Jul., 1912
County Longford, Ireland
Death: Mar. 1, 1984
County Longford, Ireland
survived by one sister and two daughters
also predeceased by two brothers
Family links:
Parents:
Farrell Corcoran (1879 - 1957)
Margaret Leavy Corcoran (1870 - 1944)
Spouse:
Nora Duffy (1913 - 1944)
Siblings:
Anna Corcoran Mannion (1907 - 1984)*
Patrick Corcoran (1911 - 1918)*
Farrell Corcoran (1912 - 1984)
*Calculated relationship
Burial:
Moyne Cemetery
County Longford, Ireland
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Thanks, yes; those are actually my entries :)
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Science 11
Do you think there may be a connection between the Duffy's you refer to and Twins Bridget Rebecca Duffy and Catherine Margaret Duffy born 1860 Scrabby(Lough Gowna & Mullanalaghta) RC Parish, parents were Bernard Duffy and Bridget (Mary) McCabe.
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Hi Jacqueline, As far as I am aware they are not. but here it a link to the parish records and you might be able to find some more links there. http://registers.nli.ie/parishes/0159 the registar is writen in latin and you may fine the first line roughtly translated is to be joined in holy matrimony, the names can also be written in Latin so it takes a while to get use to reading the information. If you have any other duffy's please let me know. thanks
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Hi
I am looking for information on Duffy of Aghagah, Moyne, Co. Longford. Anyone know anything first hand through family? I have the census 1901 & 1911 plus the Griffiths info. Having difficulty finding marriage and birth certs in Killoe Parish for Duffy/Reilly for late 1800's.
Thanks a mill
Moyne g/yard...
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Just been speaking to a cousin who is in the know about my family and Jacqueline sorry but we are not related. Doreen had a look at your Duffy tree at last and your missing James Duffy who was also know as Joe's Jimmy (son of Joseph Duffy who married Jane McKiernan)and that is the link in our two families. Now to see if we can get documentation to back it all up. The high cross in the graveyard is for Cannon Farrel Duffy and put there by his nephew Farrell Duffy. Fr Farrell died on 13 July 1887 going to visit his sister Elizabeth married to Andrew Donahue, He was cycling a penny farthing bike from Longford to Gortamore, Leitrim, when he hit a stone and fell to his death. Elizabeth was on her way to America but I don't know for how long. Apparently there was a priest from the Latin School who went around the parish gathering the family stories but I do not know the name of the book. If I find out I will let you know. The Heather Duffy's did not live in the lane but on the road to Moyne Cross and I believe the family still live there today and they are not related. I think that is it for now, I also don't think the Duffy's from Lough Gowna are related our Duffy's although one member did go and live there in the early 1900's his name was Patrick.