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Some Special Interests => Travelling People => Topic started by: kirsty.foreman on Friday 15 July 11 15:16 BST (UK)
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Hi my name is kirstyjane foreman.
I am doing some searching on my grandads side of the family.
My great grandad william hambridge camed from ireland he met and marred my great nan called sarah ann thompson they had children my grandad name was joseph samuel hambridge born wharf braunston on 20th april 1915 he met and marred my nan hannah walker in 1939 in brentford middlesex they had 3 boys called * * and a baby boy that died of cox death and 2 girls called * and my mum *.
I was told that my grandads family and my nans family worked on boats deliver coal to brentford. when i was a kid i remeber seeing a photo of my grandad joseph and my great grandad william hambridge who was about 6 foot tall and my grandads brother william hambridge born on 18th dec 1913 back when i was a kid i did not no of the name of my grandads brother until i done some searching and found out william hambridge my grandads brother was born in wharf braunston where my grandad joseph samuel hambridge was born.
i would like to no what happen to hambridge family who may of lived in wharf braunston or northamptonshire i no that my grandad live brentford until he died but i have no idea of what happen to the rest of he's family and i am very stuck on ancestry and that is why i am writting on here to find out if anyone knows any info on the hambridge family who lived and worked on the boat. thank you all for readding this and i hope to here from someone soon from kirsty foreman :)
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kirsty -
I have done some further research into my Hambridge family.
Even though one of my great grandfathers was in the coal business he never was on a canal or barge in England. He did have some contact with canal boats/barges in the US though.
I will keep looking to see if there are any links.
yn9man
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Hi Kirstyjane, the only Hambridge family I could locate that worked the canals was this one, with a William, but he was not born in Ireland?
1901 Census
Thomas Hambridge 46 occ Captain Boatman ( Barge) b Banbury
Emma 40 b Banbury
William 18 occ Captain Boatman b Birmingham
Thomas 16 occ Captain Boatman b Birmingham
John 10 b Birmingham
Bertie 6 b Birmingham
Residing at Canal Boat, at Emscote Wharfs, Warwick.
Census Ref RG13/2929/55/31
Keyboard86
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do you have William & Sarah Anns marriage certificate ?
Marriages Jun 1910
BEAMISH Kate Elizabeth Nuneaton 6d 676
HAMBRIDGE William Nuneaton 6d 676
HARDING William Arthur Nuneaton 6d 676
THOMPSON Sarah Ann Nuneaton 6d 676
you can order a copy from the GRO using the above details this will give you Williams fathers name and his age so we can locate him pre 1910
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i cannot see the 1911 census fully and we are not allowed to do look ups for this but i can do a basic person search and i can see a William Hambridge in Nuneaton he gives his age as 28 thus being born 1883 also in the household is a Sarah Hambridge crucially the schedule type is shipping
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do no if there was a alf hambridge in the family because a while a go i tiped in the hambridge name and found an alf hambridge deliver coal to brentford and there was a postcard of him and family on the boat in brentford i cant seem to find the website of him on he's boat any more but i do think he is family to my grandad joseph samuel hambridge thank you.
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and if you dont think my great grandad william hambridge camed from ireland where do you think he's wife my great nan sarah ann thompson come from i have no idea myself
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I can't see any birth in Ireland for your William Hambridge so it could be that the Irish connection is further back in the family.
You'll need to search step by step in a logical manner if you wish to trace the family, starting with what you information you have and then finding sources.
For example, someone has found the index listing for marriage of William and Sarah Ann. If you get this certificate it should show his residence at the time of marriage as well as father's name and occupation (unless illegitimate).
Since the couple were married before the 1911 census when you check that you'll have their ages as well as birthplaces (we aren't allowed to do lookups for that particular census).
With the above details you can start checking 1901, 1891, etc. ceneus records (we are allowed to help you find those).
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Hello
The magazine Narrowboat (comes out 4 times a year)has articals on the Hambridge canal family in the Summer 2007 Winter 2008 Autumn 2009 Winter 2006 magazines & many more.The mentioned gentleman is still alive i belive, so cant post name ect but if you contact the editor as i did last year when i needed to contact mr Hambridge im sure he will pass your details onto him & he will then contact you.Its a pity you did not post this a few weeks ago as some members of the family where @the Braunston Historic boat show.I have some parish records for the Boatmans church in Brentford for Baptisms of Hambridge children.
Jeannette
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The Hambridge name is well known to ex canal working families who worked the Grand Union Canal, it's possible that they delivered coal to the "jam 'ole" as it was known, you can find some stuff by googling.
Also worth looking at the historic boat owners site, though they seem to have launched a new site and at the moment sa lot of content seems to be on the old site 9such as a list of boats and their current owners/locations) awaiting transfer
http://www.hnboc.org.uk/
Also worth making enquiries to British Waterways as they hold a substantial archive of images and related documents as well as running the canal museum as Braunston.
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As to prev post you only have to google Hambridge canal family or Hambridge canal boatman & you will gain untold info on this family its also worth getting the book "The Cathedral of the Canals"this also has mentions of said family the book is £5 & can be purched from places in Braunston or £6 with P&P from The friends of All Saints Braunston 11,Cross Lane Braunston Northants NN117HH.
Jeannette
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Glen in Tinsle kni
I noticed you have a web page, I have been reserching & studying canal geneology for over 30 years now mostly Grand union & Oxford canal people as thats where most of my family of working boatmen traveled working for morton & claton & then sons, Manny Smith,Barlows,G.U.C.C. company & lastly Willow wren & a few on tar boats & the lime juice run.I live not far from Bulls Bridge where the Jam ole run ends & have turned up to show support every time this has happened since Tim Cougland of Braunston marina re Introduced it. I work on education programs & strong in keeping the boatmans way of life & traditions alive for our future generations,have built up files of over 80 canal familys.Attend most of the canal gatherings every year from Braunston down to Little Venice.Every year I gather Family members together @ Braunston Historic Show,attatched photo has members from the Harrison,Carter,Holt,Bradshaw,Hollis,Humphries,Bannister,Nixon,Monk.all part of my family tree
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Long ago I used to live with a member of the Ward family, one of the families who worked for GUCCo and latterly BW, that family link into the Bray family and hence the boat Raymond etc.
The last water carried load into Whitworths at Wellingboro went via a BW boat with a Ward at the helm, also several of the small books such as "Epilogue" have members of the Ward and Hambridge family photographed in them, probably "Women and Children of the Cut" too, it's definatley a Ward on the cover of that one.
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Hello
Mark Harrison & his second wife dolly ward where willow wrens Mark was my Grandads Brother.
Also Robert Longdons book "A Canal People" has lots of photos of all the said mentioned canal familys. The gentleman second left in my photo(George) is the same person on page 95. 94 is his mother one of Grandads sisters. 100 is his first wife.98 is Anne Harrison. this is a Great book for anyone who is reserching Canal People.
Jeannette
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Mark Harrison delivering wheat to Wellingbrough
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I think the butty pictured (or part of it) still survives somewhere. I'd guess the picture must be date anywhere from the late 30's through to the early 1950's?
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Lol
Just found the motor and butty listed on HNBOC, built mid 30's and the pair (motor should be Star) both survive in some form. Star was converted and renamed "Water Rambler"and then used as a BWB hire boat in the late 1950's.
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my grandad joseph samuel hambridge family use to deliver coal to brentfrom but im not sure where he's family would pick the coal up from and not only that my nan hannah walker her mother ada allen and father george walker use to deliver coal they had 3 girls that i no of called anut doll and anut lil and the other name i dont no of and they lived in brentford middlesex and not only that i found out that my nans little sister anut lil died at the age of 99 a few weeks ago but i never really met her but what i do no is that my nan hannah walker who later became hannah hambridge was born in lancashier near blackpool then later marred my grandad in brentford and had there children there i have never met any of my grandad side of the family and that is why i am doing this search to find out what happen to them when they worked on the boats my mum once told me that she remeber her grandad william hambridge lived in ealing and that is all she rember as she was a child herself.
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Glen
According to my records picture was taken @ Whitworth Mill near Wellingborough around Summer of 1964 his butty was Quail @ this time, they would have been breasted up with John Henry & Rose Meese on Dipper & Argo also with them where Ron & Elizabeth Green on Algate & Brighton. Meese & Green are also related within the family tree & this would have been one of the rare times family where able to get together & catch up with family news.
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sorry was ment to say brentford not brentfrom sorry about that silly me lol ;D
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Thats ok Kirsty i knew what you where getting at as a matter of added intrest for you ,boatmen had their own dialect & unless like myself you had been brought up with it you would not have understood what they where saying Brentford to them sounds like Brandford.
Jeannette
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Kirsty i sent you another message but it seems to have dissapeared with the fairys so will try again i have records for a couple of Walker children baptised on the canal @ brentford send me a personal message with your phone number or e mail address & i will let you have them. Coal would have been loaded @ Brentford & then delivered to places from there Croxley Mills was one of the many .Hambridge are distant related in my tree through Marrige via the Jackson family.As i tell every one who contacts me ref info into Canal familys
,Most canal people where their own community & hardly ever mixed with people off the bank so as you search further into your tree you will discover most of the canal family names related in one way or another. you dont say what area you live in.I live about 6 miles from Brentford & still have connections with a few canal familys who settled in that area. do you know exactly where your grandparents married?
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hi jane i have tryed send you the message but it would not aloud me my nan and grandad marred in brentford and my mum was baptised in brentford i use to live in brentford when i was a kid but now live in hanworth middlesex my email is
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There was a William Hambridge, Canal Barge owner, but not operating in the Braunston area (at least in 1893). He is mentioned in a Court case -
Jackson's Oxford Journal, May 20, 1893
UNFOUNDED CHARGE - John Clawley, of Summertown, was summoned by William Hambridge, canal barge owner, of Thrupp......
The newspaper item in reporting the Court case also mentions William's son "Henry".
regards
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hi do you no what the court case of william hambridge would of been about and was he marred to sarah ann thompson at the time and do you no where the thompson family come from sarah ann thompson is my great nan
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Kirsty did your Thompsons live in Darvin road Ealing around 1900 if so I have a couple of their Baptism records as well will send you an e/mail.
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Have now checked out the William Hambridge in the Court case and have found him on the 1901 and 1911 Census. He is NOT the William Hambridge you are looking for.
regards
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hi jane i dont no much about my family only what i have given really but what i do remeber is that there was a film made of people working in there boats in brentford i only remeber this because my mum told me there was and i have no idea what my grandad boat was called
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Thats ok Kirsty i knew what you where getting at as a matter of added intrest for you ,boatmen had their own dialect & unless like myself you had been brought up with it you would not have understood what they where saying Brentford to them sounds like Brandford.
Jeannette
Blithers and Brumigen come to mind
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hi glan is Blithers and Brumigen is that a place or somethink
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Hello
Coming late to this thread late,
William HAMBRIDGE appears in the
1901 census
RG13 2929 55 31
Canal Boat At Emscote Wharfs, Warwick St Nicholas, Warwick
HAMBRIDGE Thomas 46 Banbury Warwickshire
HAMBRIDGE Emma 40 Banbury Warwickshire
HAMBRIDGE William 18 Birmingham
HAMBRIDGE Thomas 16 Birmingham
HAMBRIDGE John 10 Birmingham
HAMBRIDGE Bertie 6 Banbury Warwickshire
In 1891 this family appear to be living in Smethwick with Thomas desc as lab'r at glass works
RG12 2366 86 12
There are 2 children born pre marriage date
1) Evelyn Hambridge THOMPSON Jan 1907 Nuneaton 6d 489
2) Walter Hambridge THOMPSON April 1909 Warwick 6d 678
You may need to purchase the marriage certificate of William & Sarah to establish their father's name and Sarah's status etc....
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THomas maybe illeg s/o Mary Ann b 1844 Banbury a Boatman's daughter!
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hi glan is Blithers and Brumigen is that a place or somethink
Blisworth tunnel and Birmingham
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Blisworth Canal Festival is on 6th & 7th August anyone else going ??
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There is a Thompson,Hambridge,Wright link still Today somehow linked into the Harrison line in the Linslade area of Leighton Buzzard. will have to dig out the relevent trees & investigate more. Linslade Canal festival is this Saturday.
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my mum told me that her grandad lived in ealing when she was a kid but i cant find a william hambridge living in ealing middlesex and i have no idea of what happen to sarah ann thompson and i really nothat no and how did they lose there boat could anyone please let me no thank you very much. from kirsty foreman
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hi i was just thinking could any one help me i no meny yrs ago there was a film made about brentford canal and my grandad and my nans family hambridge and walker family was working on there barges when the film was made so i wanted to no if you know what the film was called please can you help me please thank you. from kirsty foreman :)
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Kirsty
the two films that i know about where a large portion was filmed in Brentford
are Here come the boats & Take to the boats will dig my copies out later in the week & have a close look @ them.
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hi jane thank u it be nice to no as i dont no the names of my grandads family boats or my nans family boats my nans family name was walker i have no idea if they owed there boats or what happen to the boat as it be nice to no thank u for your help and just one more thing be i go where would i buy the film from as i would love to have one thank you again from kirsty foreman :)
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Hi again Kirsty, I believe at least one of the barges/ boats owned by William Hambridge, was called "Providence" in the family name Hambridge, I found a "Queen of the Ocean" & "Ethel"
Punch Bowl Wharf gets a mention?
Keyboard86
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Hello Kirsty
I have records for
Doris Eveline Walker daughter to George Herbert & Ada Baptised in Brentford May 9th 1928 name of Boat is unclear but look like forward.
Jack son of John & Anne Walker baptised March 9th or 19th 1915 on boat Prosper
Agnes daughter to john & Anne baptised 19th jan 1913. this states the boat as Walkers boat & fathers occupation as boat owner so this clarifies that at this stage this family where no 1s (owned their own boat)
Edward also son to John & Anne baptised on a barge in Brentford on Jan 11th 1911.with all these Baptisms happening in Brentford around the time that my family spent a lot of time in Brentford im sure your family must have known mine
around this time a lot of the Brentford boatmen inc my gG Grandad worked for a man called manny (Emanuell) Smith he had his own wharf you can find a lot about him if you google Emanuell Smith boatman Brentford.
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Kirsty sorry have had 4 attempts to post copys of these baptism records but it says file to large will get my daughter to try when she is here later on in the week. both of the mentioned films are archive footage that i have & where copied for me by a friend who has them if you contact Elsmere Port Museum im told they have them in their archive collection
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Hi Jane/Kirsty, were John/Ann Walker married c 1899 with a Daughter Elizabeth b 1903 Keyford/Kayford Northants, a John b 1905 Banbury, Anne b 1907 Rickmansworth Herts, Rose b 1909 Leighton Buzzard and Edward b 1911 b Birmingham
Keyboard86
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Hello Keyboard
This could well be the family i dont have a lot of birth records on them only parish records & have since last post found the baptism of rose who was also baptised @ Brentford on feb 18 1909
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Hi Jane, may be worth looking for a John Walker b c 1879 Oldbury Worcestershire for any earlier Walker's, unless you know this already!?
Keyboard86
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Hi both of you, this looks like John Walker in 1901:-
John Walker 22 occ Canal Boatman & Steerer b Oldbury
Ann 22
John 18 months
Sarah Ann 2 months
Thomas 10
All born Oldbury, Worcs.
Residing at Canal Boat, Chancis Basin, Oldbury
Census ref RG13/2717/157/1
Keyboard86
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hello keyboard
yes i think this is the same ,no i didnt allready know i have passed on a lot of info to Kirsty but was only aware a few days ago that she also had Walker canal people in her tree.the info i have posted is from my own personal files on data i have collected over many years whilst studying canal geneology,Some familys i have a tree for several generations. others just parish records. i have a vast collection of parish records from the churches that the canal people used.
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would this john walker be a family member to george walker my great granddad and if so then how ? :) x
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Hi Kirsty how are you, if you can give us details of what you know of George Walker, ie where/when he was born, who he married and his childrens names and again places and years of birth, I am sure we will see if their is a link to John Walker.
Keyboard86
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i dont no where he was born but what i do no is he is at ealing cemetery with he's wife ada alen they had 4 girls that i no of but 2 of the girls i dont no the names of but they lived in brentford they all did but the youngest died this yr of 100 yrs old and my nan's other sister i use to call aunt doll and my nan hannah walker was born near blackpool or in blackpool in 1916 round about november december time she married in brentford to my grandad samuel joseph hambridge my nans family use to live and work on the canal my nan told me that she was from birmingham and she is now at resting at ealing cemetery with the rest of her family. could you please tell me how meny of the hambridge and walker family resting at ealing cemetery please and plus my great nan sarah ann thompson who married my great grandad william hambridge i want to no if they are at ealing cemetery. and plus could you please tell me where george walker and ada alen come from please thank you .
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i was told that hambridge family camed from ireland but because the walker family worked on the canal they might of come from ireland as i do remeber my nan did have a funny voice and my sister did say that my grandad family camed from ireland but i do think my nans family might of come from ireland too.
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hi could anyone help me.
i would like to no why the hambridge family and the walker family worked on the canal boat like how did it all started why they did they stop working on there canal boats and what happen to the boats.
and where did george walker and ada allen come from they are my great grandad and great nan.
thank you.
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hi could anyone give me any info on alf hambridge i remeber seeing a postcard of alf hambridge in brentford on the boat in brentford on the website but i can no longer find that website any more i no that my family use to deleaver coal so could anyone help me find the postcard of alf hambridge on the burge a long brentford middlesex please i think that he could be my family member as my grandad name was joseph samuel hambridge and brother william hambridge and there dad name was william hambridge and he's wife was sarah ann thompson they use to deleaver coal so if anyone could help me find that website that has alf hambridge postcard i be most gratfull thank you very much from kirsty foreman
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There is a hambridge family, father Joseph William hambridge, living in Brentford and a son Darren William hambridge living in Ealing, London. Guess they are directly related to family your are searching for.
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Kirsty
I have this w/end been in contact with a lady from a Walker canal boat family I have told her to look you up on here . cant find a connection to the Hambridge but found a connection to another family & they are connected.
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Kirsty
I have this w/end been in contact with a lady from a Walker canal boat family I have told her to look you up on here . cant find a connection to the Hambridge but found a connection to another family & they are connected.
Jane can I ask are you on myheritage I'm pretty sure I cames across your name
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do you have William & Sarah Anns marriage certificate ?
Marriages Jun 1910
BEAMISH Kate Elizabeth Nuneaton 6d 676
HAMBRIDGE William Nuneaton 6d 676
HARDING William Arthur Nuneaton 6d 676
THOMPSON Sarah Ann Nuneaton 6d 676
you can order a copy from the GRO using the above details this will give you Williams fathers name and his age so we can locate him pre 1910
William Hambridge and Sarah ann Thompson married on 10th of June 1910 District of Nuneaton the people present at the time of Joseph Thompson and Emily Saunders I don't know if they are related to William Hambridge and Sarah Ann Thompson but I'm assuming there must be.
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The 1910 marriage certificate has an age fort each party, an occupation and something in the father's information.
You were asked for that, not the date and witness names. Read what we ask and try to filling the blank
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The 1910 marriage certificate has an age fort each party, an occupation and something in the father's information.
You were asked for that, not the date and witness names. Read what we ask and try to filling the blank
William age was 24 and he was a boatman
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Father(s)?
Father's occupation?
Bride's age?
Residence/ address for bride and groom?
Place of marriage ?( not just district)
This may or may not be sarah ann in 1911
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XWZJ-9GR
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XWZJ-9G5 (william)
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Kirsty
I have this w/end been in contact with a lady from a Walker canal boat family I have told her to look you up on here . cant find a connection to the Hambridge but found a connection to another family & they are connected.
Jane can I ask are you on myheritage I'm pretty sure I cames across your name
hi can you please help me how to find the death year of Bertie Hambridge William Hambridge his brother Bertie was born 1895. Thanks
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Kirsty
I have this w/end been in contact with a lady from a Walker canal boat family I have told her to look you up on here . cant find a connection to the Hambridge but found a connection to another family & they are connected.
hi Jane do you no what's the lady topic was so I can search for her on there and what her name is thank you.
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The death of a Bertie Hambridge, age 71, was registered in the Nuneaton Registration District in the Jan-Mar Qtr, 1966, vol 9c, page 1092.
The age at death (71) gives a birth year of 1895
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The death of a Bertie Hambridge, age 71, was registered in the Nuneaton Registration District in the Jan-Mar Qtr, 1966, vol 9c, page 1092.
The age at death (71) gives a birth year of 1895
hi apart from my great grandfather do you no if Bertie and he's siblings had any children. Thank you
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Wills online
https://probatesearch.service.gov.uk/#wills
Search "Wills and Probate 1858-1996" for Surname "Hambridge" and Year of Death "1966" - names Elizabeth as widow.
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FindMyPast marriage -
Bert Hambridge, Mar Qtr 1916, Nuneaton, vol 6d page 1145 - married Elizabeth Povey
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FreeBMD
https://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl
Type - click on "Births"
Put "hambridge" in Surname, "povey" in Spouse/Mother Surname, and "1916" to "1935" in Date Range.
Click on "Find". Should give you 4 results.
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The death of a Bertie Hambridge, age 71, was registered in the Nuneaton Registration District in the Jan-Mar Qtr, 1966, vol 9c, page 1092.
The age at death (71) gives a birth year of 1895
hi can you help me I'm trying to find the birth year and death year of Bertie Hambridge mum and dad as I believe there names are Thomas and Emma Hambridge.
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There was a William Hambridge, Canal Barge owner, but not operating in the Braunston area (at least in 1893). He is mentioned in a Court case -
Jackson's Oxford Journal, May 20, 1893
UNFOUNDED CHARGE - John Clawley, of Summertown, was summoned by William Hambridge, canal barge owner, of Thrupp......
The newspaper item in reporting the Court case also mentions William's son "Henry".
regards
hi how can I find this news paper please
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:) So many people wanting answers on the Hambridge/Walker families, The parents from my findings of Thomas Hambridge 1857 were James Hambridge who married Frances/Fanny Brayne/Brain/Brains 1845 Banbury, the marriage of Thomas/Emma at present I cannot locate but Bertie b 1894 was with mothers name Walker.
Keyboard86
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:) So many people wanting answers on the Hambridge/Walker families, The parents from my findings of Thomas Hambridge 1857 were James Hambridge who married Frances/Fanny Brayne/Brain/Brains 1845 Banbury, the marriage of Thomas/Emma at present I cannot locate but Bertie b 1894 was with mothers name Walker.
Keyboard86
as far as I no my great grandfather William Hambridge died in 1964 he's siblings was Bertie Hambridge and Emily Saunders and john Hambridge and my great grandfather was married to a Sarah Ann thampson. I heard a rumour that apparently that Thomas Hambridge was working or running a pub in Banbury but what I do know is that my family are a canal family.
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With all due respects that does not state that you confirm/deny that the parents of Thomas Hambridge b c 1857 were as shown, and confirm that the mother of Bertie was a Walker?
Keyboard86
PS Thomas Hambridge possibly died June qtr 1923 Nuneaton aged 65?
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With all due respects that does not state that you confirm/deny that the parents of Thomas Hambridge b c 1857 were as shown, and confirm that the mother of Bertie was a Walker?
Keyboard86
PS Thomas Hambridge possibly died June qtr 1923 Nuneaton aged 65?
does that mean my great grandfather George Herbert walker related to Bertie was walker it's just that William Hambridge who died in 1964 he's son Joseph Samuel Hambridge married my nan Hannah Hambridge in Brentford Middlesex in 1939
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I at present do not know, as I at present cannot locate a marriage of Thomas Hambridge to an Emma Walker, Emma has to be traced back from 1901 census?
Keyboard86
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Hi Kirstyjane, the only Hambridge family I could locate that worked the canals was this one, with a William, but he was not born in Ireland?
1901 Census
Thomas Hambridge 46 occ Captain Boatman ( Barge) b Banbury
Emma 40 b Banbury
William 18 occ Captain Boatman b Birmingham
Thomas 16 occ Captain Boatman b Birmingham
John 10 b Birmingham
Bertie 6 b Birmingham
Residing at Canal Boat, at Emscote Wharfs, Warwick.
Census Ref RG13/2929/55/31
Keyboard86
Note all the children on this census ( age slightly askew sometimes) have mothers maiden name Walker
Keyboard86
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Hi Kirstyjane, the only Hambridge family I could locate that worked the canals was this one, with a William, but he was not born in Ireland?
1901 Census
Thomas Hambridge 46 occ Captain Boatman ( Barge) b Banbury
Emma 40 b Banbury
William 18 occ Captain Boatman b Birmingham
Thomas 16 occ Captain Boatman b Birmingham
John 10 b Birmingham
Bertie 6 b Birmingham
Residing at Canal Boat, at Emscote Wharfs, Warwick.
Census Ref RG13/2929/55/31
Keyboard86
Note all the children on this census ( age slightly askew sometimes) have mothers maiden name Walker
Keyboard86
could there be a connection between Emma walker and my great great nan Emily Amy walker father James walker
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:) As I say, I do not know as at present no marriage I can locate to Thomas?
It is so difficult because I get the impression you have no birth/marriage or death certificates for either the Hambridge or Walker families
Keyboard86
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:) As I say, I do not know as at present no marriage I can locate to Thomas?
It is so difficult because I get the impression you have no birth/marriage or death certificates for either the Hambridge or Walker families
Keyboard86 yes intact I have the marriage certificate of George Herbert Walker and ada Byfield they married in parish church in Birmingham August the 2nd 1909 George Herbert Walker illegitimate child of Emily Walker Witnesses was Charles Byfield and Emily.
My great grandfather William Hambridge married my great nan Sarah Ann Thompson they married in Nuneaton in a registry office Jun 10, 1910 Witnesses was Joseph Thompson and Emily. On william Hambridge marriage certificate there is a father's name called Thomas Hambridge. So I would like to find out if there is a connection between Emma Hambridge maiden name Walker and to see if she is related to my great grandad George Herbert Walker and his mother Emily Walker and her father Charles Walker.
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:) Hi sorry I am getting a bit lost, on the marriage of George Herbert Walker to Ada Byfield 1909 we have witnesses of Charles Byfield & EMILY, the marriage of William Hambridge to Sarah Ann Thompson 1910 has witnesses as Joseph Thompson & EMILY
So, we presume that the EMMA with Thomas for which at present I cannot locate a marriage, had some link to the Emily who had an ilegitimate child, and was she witness to two marriages as Walker?
When/where was George Herbert Walker born, and does it actually say "Illegitimate child of Emily" on his marriage certificate?
Keyboard86
PS I see you have a huge thread on the Walker family, what was the outcome, from a cursory glance one of the witnesses was an Emily Jones not Walker or Hambridge
Sorry this is getting too complicated for me, two threads that have covered 9 pages of replies.
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There is another thread that has been running concerning George Herbert Walker.
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=782973.msg6576481#msg6576481
I copy below details of a couple of posts I have made on that thread that contain pertinent information.
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George Herbert Walker was baptised in 1886 in Brinklow, Warwickshire. This provides the information that his mother was Emily Walker, a single woman. No father is named.
1881 census for Brinklow has an Emily Walker age 18, daughter of James and Mary Ann Walker. She is likely to be the mother of George Herbert Walker.
In 1891 George is living in Stockton, Warwickshire with his mother Emily and a sister called Rose ( born as Rose Morris with mmn Walker in Brinklow in 1888). Emily, George and Rose all have the surname Morris and Emily indicates that she is married, but her husband is not present.
In 1901 Emily ( still using the name Morris and claiming to be married) is living in Brinklow. Rose and George are not with her but she has three other children - Charles age 6, Lily age 1 and an unnamed infant. The births of all these children are registered as Morris with mmn Walker. No husband is present.
There is no record of a marriage between Emily and someone called Morris and it is likely they were never married. The only clue to the name of Mr Morris comes from the 1910 marriage certificate of daughter Rose, which names her father as Charles Morris, Boatman ( deceased).
Emily married in 1910 in Northants to William Harry Stratfull. She calls herself a widow and married under the name Morris. She gives her father as James Walker, Boatman (deceased) The family are at Buckby Wharf, Northants in the 1911 census. William Harry and Emily have surname Stratfull ( married one year) There are four Morris children living with them - Lilian Mary (Lily) and Blanche Elizabeth ( the baby from 1901) plus Ethel born 1903 and Leonard born 1905. The latter two children are also recorded as surname Morris mmn Walker.
So to summarise, Emily Walker appears to have had seven children
George Herbert Walker (father unknown)
Rose ( father Charles Morris)
Charles ( father probably Charles Morris)
Lilian Mary (Lily)( father probably Charles Morris)
Blanche Elizabeth ( father probably Charles Morris)
Ethel ( father probably Charles Morris)
Leonard ( father probably Charles Morris)
It appears unlikely that Emily was actually ever married to Charles Morris.
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Emily Ann Walker was born in 1863 in Brinklow. As far as I can see from census returns she was one of 12 children of James Walker and Mary Ann nee Gresley/Greasley. James Walker married Mary Ann Gresley on 16th December 1861 at Bordesley St Andrew, Warwickshire ( certificate viewable on Ancestry).He was age 32 and his occupation was Boatman ( although he appears as a Labourer on some of the census returns). His father was James Walker, a Tallow Maker. Mary Ann was 21, the daughter of Joseph Gresley, a Labourer.
Siblings of Emily were -
James born 1860 with surname Greasley ( pre marriage)
Emily Ann born 1863
Alice born 1864
George born 1866 died 1870
Lizzy born 1868 ( seems also to have been known as Lucy and Elizabeth)
Sarah Ann born 1870
Frederick born 1871 died 1872
Annie 1872
Edward 1874
Harry born 1875 died 1876
Beatrice Louisa 1876
Herbert 1878
James Walker was born about 1829 in Brinklow and Mary Ann Walker nee Gresley was born 1839/40 also in Brinklow.
Regarding your question about the possibility of Charles Morris being the father of George Herbert Walker. It is possible, but unfortunately I’m not sure how you would prove this conclusively as there is no father’s name on his birth or baptism.
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Hi Kirstyjane, the only Hambridge family I could locate that worked the canals was this one, with a William, but he was not born in Ireland?
1901 Census
Thomas Hambridge 46 occ Captain Boatman ( Barge) b Banbury
Emma 40 b Banbury
William 18 occ Captain Boatman b Birmingham
Thomas 16 occ Captain Boatman b Birmingham
John 10 b Birmingham
Bertie 6 b Birmingham
Residing at Canal Boat, at Emscote Wharfs, Warwick.
Census Ref RG13/2929/55/31
Keyboard86
Note all the children on this census ( age slightly askew sometimes) have mothers maiden name Walker
Keyboard86
could there be a connection between Emma walker and my great great nan Emily Amy walker father James walker
on MyHeritage I came across Thomas Hambridge born 1858 but I cant find a death year for thomas hambridge and I cant find a birth year or a death year for emma hambridge
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Hi again, you must read through all replies given to you, I have already supplied a possible death for Thomas Hambridge in Nuneaton 1923 aged 63 and his possible parents?
Keyboard86
PS if you have only one marriage certificate for a Walker how did you get as far back as your Great Great Nan Emily Amy Walker father James Walker?
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Hi again, you must read through all replies given to you, I have already supplied a possible death for Thomas Hambridge in Nuneaton 1923 aged 65 and his possible parents?
Keyboard86
PS if you have only one marriage certificate for a Walker how did you get as far back as your Great Great Nan Emily Amy Walker father James Walker?
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Hi again, you must read through all replies given to you, I have already supplied a possible death for Thomas Hambridge in Nuneaton 1923 aged 65 and his possible parents?
Keyboard86
PS if you have only one marriage certificate for a Walker how did you get as far back as your Great Great Nan Emily Amy Walker father James Walker?
With the help of MyHeritage website as you can up your DNA and family tree and I have marriage certificate of George Herbert walker and ada Byfield and I have the marriage certificate of William Hambridge and Sarah Ann thampson my great grand parents.
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Blimey, I did not know that DNA was that advanced these days that it is possible to get your family tree so far back without birth/marriage/death certificates?
How much does it cost?
Keyboard86
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Blimey, I did not know that DNA was that advanced these days that it is possible to get your family tree so far back without birth/marriage/death certificates?
How much does it cost?
Keyboard86
MyHeritage is a good website it only cost £67 you can check it out on YouTube you can find your family and distant relatives you never knew about as well as your ancestors
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:) Thank you for that I will bear it in mind
Keyboard86
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Hello Kirsty
I have records for
Doris Eveline Walker daughter to George Herbert & Ada Baptised in Brentford May 9th 1928 name of Boat is unclear but look like forward.
Jack son of John & Anne Walker baptised March 9th or 19th 1915 on boat Prosper
Agnes daughter to john & Anne baptised 19th jan 1913. this states the boat as Walkers boat & fathers occupation as boat owner so this clarifies that at this stage this family where no 1s (owned their own boat)
Edward also son to John & Anne baptised on a barge in Brentford on Jan 11th 1911.with all these Baptisms happening in Brentford around the time that my family spent a lot of time in Brentford im sure your family must have known mine
around this time a lot of the Brentford boatmen inc my gG Grandad worked for a man called manny (Emanuell) Smith he had his own wharf you can find a lot about him if you google Emanuell Smith boatman Brentford.
thank you. I can't seem to find the birth date of a Thomas Hambridge who was married to Emma Hambridge he is my grandad Joseph Samuel Hambridge who was born in wharf braunstion on 20/4/1915 he is my grandads Joseph great grandfather there is so many Thomas Hambridge born in Banbury and I just don't no what one is my 4 times great grandfather so I'm confused as I tried looking it up on ancestry I'm past myHeritage.
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Hello Kirsty
I have records for
Doris Eveline Walker daughter to George Herbert & Ada Baptised in Brentford May 9th 1928 name of Boat is unclear but look like forward.
Jack son of John & Anne Walker baptised March 9th or 19th 1915 on boat Prosper
Agnes daughter to john & Anne baptised 19th jan 1913. this states the boat as Walkers boat & fathers occupation as boat owner so this clarifies that at this stage this family where no 1s (owned their own boat)
Edward also son to John & Anne baptised on a barge in Brentford on Jan 11th 1911.with all these Baptisms happening in Brentford around the time that my family spent a lot of time in Brentford im sure your family must have known mine
around this time a lot of the Brentford boatmen inc my gG Grandad worked for a man called manny (Emanuell) Smith he had his own wharf you can find a lot about him if you google Emanuell Smith boatman Brentford.
thank you. I can't seem to find the birth date of a Thomas Hambridge who was married to Emma Hambridge he is my grandad Joseph Samuel Hambridge who was born in wharf braunstion on 20/4/1915 he is my grandads Joseph great grandfather there is so many Thomas Hambridge born in Banbury and I just don't no what one is my 4 times great grandfather so I'm confused as I tried looking it up on ancestry I'm past myHeritage.
can I ask how would they be related to George Herbert walker
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Blimey, I did not know that DNA was that advanced these days that it is possible to get your family tree so far back without birth/marriage/death certificates?
How much does it cost?
Keyboard86
MyHeritage is a good website it only cost £67 you can check it out on YouTube you can find your family and distant relatives you never knew about as well as your ancestors
I am stuck can you help me I'm trying to find the birth year of Sarah Ann thampson I no she died December 1947 but I just can't find the year she was born please can I have some help thanks.
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:) So many people wanting answers on the Hambridge/Walker families, The parents from my findings of Thomas Hambridge 1857 were James Hambridge who married Frances/Fanny Brayne/Brain/Brains 1845 Banbury, the marriage of Thomas/Emma at present I cannot locate but Bertie b 1894 was with mothers name Walker.
Keyboard86
hi I camed across a Emma Rogers being married to Thomas Hambridge.
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Well, I just typed a reply and couldn't get it to post so I will try again.
From https://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl ....
There is a marriage for a Thomas HaNbridge to an Emma Walker in the Dec qtr 1881. The original image of the parish record is available on ancestry and has the name spelled with an N as well.
Thomas Hanbridge 23 Bachelor Labourer of South Banbury Father James Hanbridge Labourer
Emma Walker 18 Spinster of South Banbury Father John Walker Labourer
03 Dec 1881 in the Parish Church of South Banbury
Thomas and Emma signed with their mark (x)
Witnesses Henry Harwood (marked his x) and Ellen Walker who signed for herself.
PB
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Well, I just typed a reply and couldn't get it to post so I will try again.
From https://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl ....
There is a marriage for a Thomas HaNbridge to an Emma Walker in the Dec qtr 1881. The original image of the parish record is available on ancestry and has the name spelled with an N as well.
Thomas Hanbridge 23 Bachelor Labourer of South Banbury Father James Hanbridge Labourer
Emma Walker 18 Spinster of South Banbury Father John Walker Labourer
03 Dec 1881 in the Parish Church of South Banbury
Thomas and Emma signed with their mark (x)
Witnesses Henry Harwood (marked his x) and Ellen Walker who signed for herself.
PB
I take it Ellen walker would of been a sister or cousin. And I also take it Henry harwood might of been a family friend ?.
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Hi again, their is a family living in Banbury headed by a John Walker with wife Sarah with children including Emma b 1862 Banbury mmn Jellyman and a sister Ellen b c 1867 Banbury
1871 RG10/1464/58/8
1881 RG11/1527/77/28
Keyboard86
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Hi again, their is a family living in Banbury headed by a John Walker with wife Sarah with children including Emma b 1862 Banbury mmn Jellyman and a sister Ellen b c 1867 Banbury
1871 RG10/1464/58/8
1881 RG11/1527/77/28
Keyboard86
hi is a jellyman a boy or a girl
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:) mmn is short for Mothers maiden name.
Keyboard86
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:) mmn is short for Mothers maiden name.
Keyboard86
sorry just a bit confused I take it it's Sarah maiden name and I take it she only had 2 girls
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:) mmn is short for Mothers maiden name.
Keyboard86
sorry just a bit confused I take it it's Sarah maiden name and I take it she only had 2 girls
I only showed the two who were at the marriage, in 1871 we have John 37 Sarah 31 William 16 Elizabeth 12 Emma 10 Ellen 4 Fanny 5 or 3 Jane 1
Keyboard86
PS John Walker married Sarah Jellyman March qtr 1858 Banbury
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:) mmn is short for Mothers maiden name.
Keyboard86
sorry just a bit confused I take it it's Sarah maiden name and I take it she only had 2 girls
I only showed the two who were at the marriage, in 1871 we have John 37 Sarah 31 William 16 Elizabeth 12 Emma 10 Ellen 4 Fanny 5 or 3 Jane 1
Keyboard86
PS John Walker married Sarah Jellyman March qtr 1858 Banbury
thank you would Emma Hambridge had a middle name with the name j in it it's just I camed a cross a Emma j Hambridge
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Hi I have shown you the birth registration of an Emma Walker b 1862 Banbury with mothers maiden name Jellyman, and the census returns for Emma in 1871 & 1881 in Banbury, why bring up an Emma with a middle initial "J" ?
Keyboard86
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:) mmn is short for Mothers maiden name.
Keyboard86
sorry just a bit confused I take it it's Sarah maiden name and I take it she only had 2 girls
I only showed the two who were at the marriage, in 1871 we have John 37 Sarah 31 William 16 Elizabeth 12 Emma 10 Ellen 4 Fanny 5 or 3 Jane 1
Keyboard86
PS John Walker married Sarah Jellyman March qtr 1858 Banbury
hi I copied and pasted this and I need to know if this is wrong or right.Well, I just typed a reply and couldn't get it to post so I will try again.
From https://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl ....
There is a marriage for a Thomas HaNbridge to an Emma Walker in the Dec qtr 1881. The original image of the parish record is available on ancestry and has the name spelled with an N as well.
Thomas Hanbridge 23 Bachelor Labourer of South Banbury Father James Hanbridge Labourer
Emma Walker 18 Spinster of South Banbury Father John Walker Labourer
03 Dec 1881 in the Parish Church of South Banbury
Thomas and Emma signed with their mark (x)
Witnesses Henry Harwood (marked his x) and Ellen Walker who signed for herself
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Hi Kirsty
We are volunteers on here who look for info to help others with their family research. It is then up to you to verify the info and decide if the info is correct, bearing in mind that names of ancestors are not always spelled the way we expect them to be. You need to collect a paper trail of such things as BMD certificates, baptism and burial records, and census returns to help you with this. As I pointed out, the image of the parish record of the marriage is on Ancestry so you don't even need to order that certificate. If you don't have an Ancestry subscription, check if your local public library subscribes to Ancestry Library Edition....this would give you access to the images.
PB
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:) So many people wanting answers on the Hambridge/Walker families, The parents from my findings of Thomas Hambridge 1857 were James Hambridge who married Frances/Fanny Brayne/Brain/Brains 1845 Banbury, the marriage of Thomas/Emma at present I cannot locate but Bertie b 1894 was with mothers name Walker.
Keyboard86
OK who was the Fred/Frederick Hambridge b c 1897/8 Braddel?? Buckinghamshire with Bertie/Bert/ Thomas/Emma and family in Nuneaton Warwickshire in 1911, where was he 1901? he appears to marry March qtr 1920 Nuneaton a Florence M Hinsley and his death looks to be Dec qtr 1973 Nuneaton?
Keyboard86
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:) mmn is short for Mothers maiden name.
Keyboard86
sorry just a bit confused I take it it's Sarah maiden name and I take it she only had 2 girls
I only showed the two who were at the marriage, in 1871 we have John 37 Sarah 31 William 16 Elizabeth 12 Emma 10 Ellen 4 Fanny 5 or 3 Jane 1
Keyboard86
PS John Walker married Sarah Jellyman March qtr 1858 Banbury
hi I copied and pasted this and I need to know if this is wrong or right.Well, I just typed a reply and couldn't get it to post so I will try again.
From https://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl ....
There is a marriage for a Thomas HaNbridge to an Emma Walker in the Dec qtr 1881. The original image of the parish record is available on ancestry and has the name spelled with an N as well.
Thomas Hanbridge 23 Bachelor Labourer of South Banbury Father James Hanbridge Labourer
Emma Walker 18 Spinster of South Banbury Father John Walker Labourer
03 Dec 1881 in the Parish Church of South Banbury
Thomas and Emma signed with their mark (x)
Witnesses Henry Harwood (marked his x) and Ellen Walker who signed for herself
don't you mean Hambridge not Hambridge
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:) mmn is short for Mothers maiden name.
Keyboard86
sorry just a bit confused I take it it's Sarah maiden name and I take it she only had 2 girls
I only showed the two who were at the marriage, in 1871 we have John 37 Sarah 31 William 16 Elizabeth 12 Emma 10 Ellen 4 Fanny 5 or 3 Jane 1
Keyboard86
PS John Walker married Sarah Jellyman March qtr 1858 Banbury
hi I copied and pasted this and I need to know if this is wrong or right.Well, I just typed a reply and couldn't get it to post so I will try again.
From https://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl ....
There is a marriage for a Thomas HaNbridge to an Emma Walker in the Dec qtr 1881. The original image of the parish record is available on ancestry and has the name spelled with an N as well.
Thomas Hanbridge 23 Bachelor Labourer of South Banbury Father James Hanbridge Labourer
Emma Walker 18 Spinster of South Banbury Father John Walker Labourer
03 Dec 1881 in the Parish Church of South Banbury
Thomas and Emma signed with their mark (x)
Witnesses Henry Harwood (marked his x) and Ellen Walker who signed for herself
don't you mean Hambridge not Hanbridge
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The Curate has written the name down as HaNbridge with an N. Thomas and Emma did not sign their own names which means they likely could not read and may not have noticed how the name was written.
In my own family tree there are names that are spelled much more differently than what you are looking at here. After gathering much info from BMD certifcates, baptism and burial records, censuses, and other records for my ancestors, and their siblings too, I was able to confidently say I had the correct family.
It is up to you to do likewise and decide for yourself based on the evidence you collect. We cannot make that decision for you.
PB
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Hi again, and maybe other than the previous reply, can you can reply to my previous question ref who was the mother of this Fred?
Thomas Hambridge 54 occ Boatman Master of Canal b Oxfordshire
Emma 49 b Oxfordshire
Thomas 23 occ Miner Bondsman b Smethwick
John 19 occ Miner Bondsman b Smethwick
Bert 17 occ Miner Bondsman b Oxfordshire
Fred 14 occ Boatman b Braddel, Buckinghamshire
Residing Nuneaton in 1911.
Keyboard86
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There was a William Hambridge, Canal Barge owner, but not operating in the Braunston area (at least in 1893). He is mentioned in a Court case -
Jackson's Oxford Journal, May 20, 1893
UNFOUNDED CHARGE - John Clawley, of Summertown, was summoned by William Hambridge, canal barge owner, of Thrupp......
The newspaper item in reporting the Court case also mentions William's son "Henry".
regards
hi how can I find this news paper please
is there a reference number I could have please thanks asi would live to find what it was about at the time.
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Hi is their any chance you can answer the later replies given to you, rather than going back to one sent much earlier?
Keyboard86
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Hi I have shown you the birth registration of an Emma Walker b 1862 Banbury with mothers maiden name Jellyman, and the census returns for Emma in 1871 & 1881 in Banbury, why bring up an Emma with a middle initial "J" ?
Keyboard86
it's something I camed across on myheritage that's why I asked
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:) Look I am getting lost with the possibilty of my findings that have already been supplied but not answered by you?
You have had two replies yesterday from polarbear and myself, that I feel you need to answer?
Keyboard86
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The Curate has written the name down as HaNbridge with an N. Thomas and Emma did not sign their own names which means they likely could not read and may not have noticed how the name was written.
In my own family tree there are names that are spelled much more differently than what you are looking at here. After gathering much info from BMD certifcates, baptism and burial records, censuses, and other records for my ancestors, and their siblings too, I was able to confidently say I had the correct family.
It is up to you to do likewise and decide for yourself based on the evidence you collect. We cannot make that decision for you.
PB
my mum did say my nan Hannah Walker and my grandad Joseph Samuel Hambridge couldn't read or write so there for your right.
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:) So many people wanting answers on the Hambridge/Walker families, The parents from my findings of Thomas Hambridge 1857 were James Hambridge who married Frances/Fanny Brayne/Brain/Brains 1845 Banbury, the marriage of Thomas/Emma at present I cannot locate but Bertie b 1894 was with mothers name Walker.
Keyboard86
OK who was the Fred/Frederick Hambridge b c 1897/8 Braddel?? Buckinghamshire with Bertie/Bert/ Thomas/Emma and family in Nuneaton Warwickshire in 1911, where was he 1901? he appears to marry March qtr 1920 Nuneaton a Florence M Hinsley and his death looks to be Dec qtr 1973 Nuneaton?
Keyboard86
u don't no the Fred in1897/8 but what I do no is my great grandfather William Hambridge and great nan Sarah Ann thampson had 3 sons william Hambridge and Bertie Hambridge and my grandad Joseph Samuel Hambridge and 2 girls Olivia and Evelyn Hambridge that's all I no
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Hi again, and maybe other than the previous reply, can you can reply to my previous question ref who was the mother of this Fred?
Thomas Hambridge 54 occ Boatman Master of Canal b Oxfordshire
Emma 49 b Oxfordshire
Thomas 23 occ Miner Bondsman b Smethwick
John 19 occ Miner Bondsman b Smethwick
Bert 17 occ Miner Bondsman b Oxfordshire
Fred 14 occ Boatman b Braddel, Buckinghamshire
Residing Nuneaton in 1911.
Keyboard86
This was the family I was asking about?
Keyboard86
EDIT and this looks to be William & Sarah Ann ( nee Thompson ) in 1911
The Canal Punch Bowl Wharf Nuneaton Vessel Civility & Endeavour
William Hambridge 28 occ Boatman Master of Canal Boat
Sarah Ann 28
Florence May 4 months
Evelyn H Thompson 4
Walter H Thompson 1
Birth registrations:-
Evelyn Humbridge Thompson March qtr 1907 Nuneaton No Mothers maiden name
Walter Hambidge Thompson June qtr 1909 Warwick No Mothers maiden name
Florence May Hambridge Dec qtr 1910 Rugby mmn Thompson
Did William & Sarah Ann move to Brentford, Middlesex, did Olive/ Olivia marry a Burlow and was their also a Wilfred Hambridge b 1920 Tamworth mmn Thompson?
The only Bertie Hambridge I could locate was b 1894 Banbury and his death was March qtr 1966 Nuneaton aged 71, so when was the Bertie born to William & Sarah Ann Thompson?
A William Hambridge b March qtr 1914 Daventry mmn Thompson seems to have died Sept qtr 1914 Rugby aged 0
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Hi again, I see you are back on, you were not aware of a birth of a Wilfred Hambridge b 24th January 1920 mmn Thompson, he died b 24th January 1920, in Kensington 1974, he married a Lilian May Endean b 3rd May 1917 in St Austell 1945 and on at least 2 Electoral registers he is with:-
Evelyn T Hambridge
Lilian M Hambridge
Sarah Hambridge
Wilfred Hambridge
William Hambridge
At 29, Boston Park Road in 1947/1948 Brentford.
Did Evelyn die as a Spinster?
Keyboard86
PS Joseph Samuel Hambridge was buried 27th July 1992 aged 77, along with a Hannah 31st January 2001 aged 84 and Leonard Geo: Hambridge 20th June 1944 aged 3 months
At Ealing & Old Brentford Cemetery
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Hi will you firstly answer the content of the two replies I posted above, for example did Evelyn Hambridge die unmarried.
I am only trying to help you?
Keyboard86
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Hi will you firstly answer the content of the two replies I posted above, for example did Evelyn Hambridge die unmarried.
I am only trying to help you?
Keyboard86
hi I don't know if she died as a spinster or not I don't no anything other then what I have given to you
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OK I say Evelyn died a Spinster, you said earlier you knew your Aunt Evelyn, was she married?
Will you please reply about my posts re the 1911 the Wilfred who is on Electoral registers in Brentford, the burial of Joseph Samuel Hambridge 1992?
Please do not pick "bits" out of my findings, please answer whether you agree or disagree?
Keyboard86
PS the Evelyn Humbridge Thompson b March qtr 1907 No Mothers maiden name, died as Evelyn Hambridge b 2nd March 1907 June 1974 Brent?
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Hi again, I see you are back on, you were not aware of a birth of a Wilfred Hambridge b 24th January 1920 mmn Thompson, he died b 24th January 1920, in Kensington 1974, he married a Lilian May Endean b 3rd May 1917 in St Austell 1945 and on at least 2 Electoral registers he is with:-
Evelyn T Hambridge
Lilian M Hambridge
Sarah Hambridge
Wilfred Hambridge
William Hambridge
At 29, Boston Park Road in 1947/1948 Brentford.
Did Evelyn die as a Spinster?
Keyboard86
PS Joseph Samuel Hambridge was buried 27th July 1992 aged 77, along with a Hannah 31st January 2001 aged 84 and Leonard Geo: Hambridge 20th June 1944 aged 3 months
At Ealing & Old Brentford Cemetery
hi I cant seem to find any marriage for Evelyn hambridge for now but I just spoken to my mum she said that she never heard of the names of Wilfred hambridge and lilian hambridge as she said there was a family fall out but she said you have got the correct address for william and sarah ann hambridge living at 29 boston park in Brentford. And I myself can confirm that you have the correct place of rest of my nan hannah and my granddad Joseph Samuel hambridge and there son leonard george hambridge in ealing and old Brentford cemetery. My mum has asked me to find something out on her behalf my mum wants to find out where my great nan sarah ann Thompson is buried at as my mum told me that's she reckons my great Nan was very ill as my great Nan was once walking across Great West Road while sleepwalking as my great nan's had to be taken home in a police car to my great grandad William Hambridge my mum has said there she would love to know where her grand parent are buried as she would like to go and visit her grandparent grave one day. I found a death year for my great nan 1947 but I cant find a birth year for sarah ann born Thompson so any information would be a great help.
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Hi Ealing & Old Brentford Cemetery
Sarah Ann Hambridge 62 31st December 1947
William Hambridge 79 28th August 1964
Evelyn Hambridge 67 15th May 1974
Ealing & Old Brentford Cemetery
Keyboard86
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Hi Ealing & Old Brentford Cemetery
Sarah Ann Hambidge 62 31st December 1947
William Hambridge 79 28th August 1964
Evelyn Hambridge 67 15th May 1974
Ealing & Old Brentford Cemetery
Keyboard86 thank you so much for your help and reply. I was wondering if evelyn might of had any children or even a partner
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Hi well in 1939 she was with these people:-
Evelyn T Hambridge
William
Sarah
Olive R
Wilfred b 1920
Keyboard86
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Hi well in 1939 she was with these people:-
Evelyn T Hambridge
William
Sarah
Olive R
Wilfred b 1920
Keyboard86
I never heard of a Olive R could this be anther child to sarah hambridge and William hambridge because like I said before I only knew about Evelyn and Oliva William fred and my granddad Joseph Samuel hambridge
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Hi again, and maybe other than the previous reply, can you can reply to my previous question ref who was the mother of this Fred?
Thomas Hambridge 54 occ Boatman Master of Canal b Oxfordshire
Emma 49 b Oxfordshire
Thomas 23 occ Miner Bondsman b Smethwick
John 19 occ Miner Bondsman b Smethwick
Bert 17 occ Miner Bondsman b Oxfordshire
Fred 14 occ Boatman b Braddel, Buckinghamshire
Residing Nuneaton in 1911.
Keyboard86
This was the family I was asking about?
Keyboard86
EDIT and this looks to be William & Sarah Ann ( nee Thompson ) in 1911
The Canal Punch Bowl Wharf Nuneaton Vessel Civility & Endeavour
William Hambridge 28 occ Boatman Master of Canal Boat
Sarah Ann 28
Florence May 4 months
Evelyn H Thompson 4
Walter H Thompson 1
Birth registrations:-
Evelyn Humbridge Thompson March qtr 1907 Nuneaton No Mothers maiden name
Walter Hambidge Thompson June qtr 1909 Warwick No Mothers maiden name
Florence May Hambridge Dec qtr 1910 Rugby mmn Thompson
Did William & Sarah Ann move to Brentford, Middlesex, did Olive/ Olivia marry a Burlow and was their also a Wilfred Hambridge b 1920 Tamworth mmn Thompson?
The only Bertie Hambridge I could locate was b 1894 Banbury and his death was March qtr 1966 Nuneaton aged 71, so when was the Bertie born to William & Sarah Ann Thompson?
A William Hambridge b March qtr 1914 Daventry mmn Thompson seems to have died Sept qtr 1914 Rugby aged 0
hi when I was looking on my ancestry I found a William who died some where around Daventry about in he's 70s in 1993 with the mother's maiden name Thompson and he was born at the same place where my grandad Joseph Samuel Hambridge was born at wharf braunstion
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Hi again, the Olive R was born Aston ,and remarkably appears to be still alive today under her married name.
What can you tell us of Olivia?
Keyboard86
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Hi again, the Olive R was born Aston ,and remarkably appears to be still alive today under her married name.
What can you tell us of Olivia?
Keyboard86
would you be aloud to give me her year of birth please thank you
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Hi Kirsty
We are not allowed to post info from the 1939 Register but the following info about birth years is available from the free index at findmypast....
William Hambridge 1885
Sarah 1885
Evelyn T 1907
Olive R 1918
Wilfred 1920...birthdate given earlier
The actual birthdates are given in the image of the record but you need a subscription to either findmypast or ancestry to see them.
If you do not have a subscription to ancestry, check if your local public library subscribes to ancestry library edition. This will give you access to the full record.
PB
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Hi Kirsty
We are not allowed to post info from the 1939 Register but the following info about birth years is available from the free index at findmypast....
William Hambridge 1885
Sarah 1885
Evelyn T 1907
Olive R 1918
Wilfred 1920...birthdate given earlier
The actual birthdates are given in the image of the record but you need a subscription to either findmypast or ancestry to see them.
If you do not have a subscription to ancestry, check if your local public library subscribes to ancestry library edition. This will give you access to the full record.
PB
I'm not good with my maths but if she is alive today what age would she be and what would be her married name be
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Since she may still be alive, we are not permitted to discuss Olive here now. She would be about 100 years old.
You can look for her marriage at this free website link. Look under Olive R. You will also then get the name of her husband as well.
https://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl
PB
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I just camed a cross olive husband who she married in Brentford in 1940 he's name is J B is there any chance he maybe live or past away.
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Hi as already mentiond, we are not allowed to post or discuss possibly living people, so please amend the surname of the man that she was married to?
What do you know of Grace M Hambridge
Keyboard86
PS I have reported this to a Moderator, if you are unable to get rid of his name.
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Hi as already mentiond, we are not allowed to post or discuss possibly living people, so please amend the surname of the man that she was married to?
What do you know of Grace M Hambridge
Keyboard86
PS I have reported this to a Moderator, if you are unable to get rid of his name.
I don't no the name of a grace m Hambridge as I never heard of it before. But is there anyway if I can find out the mother's maiden name of JB please thank you
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Hi as already mentiond, we are not allowed to post or discuss possibly living people, so please amend the surname of the man that she was married to?
What do you know of Grace M Hambridge
Keyboard86
PS I have reported this to a Moderator, if you are unable to get rid of his name.
I don't no the name of a grace m Hambridge as I never heard of it before. But is there anyway if I can find out the mother's maiden name of JB please thank you
p.s I already asked my mum if olive and James had any children and she doesn't no anything as her family had a fall out so they wasn't close family.
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Hi if you put in births on Freebmd which you now have the link , Grace M Hambridge 1915 to 1915 let us know the result
Keyboard86
Using again put in on births surname known to you, and then mothers maiden name Hambridge, you will find two male birth 1943 Brentford and 1947 Surrey N E
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Hi if you put in births on Freebmd which you now have the link , Grace M Hambridge 1915 to 1915 let us know the result
Keyboard86
would grace had the mothers maiden name it's just my grandad Joseph Samuel Hambridge was born in that year x
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OK apologies, another Hambridge married a Thompson and Grace was born in Brentford 1915!
Keyboard86
Their were two boys born 1943 and 1947 to Olive and her husband
Kirsty will you please stop posting the name of the husband of Olive it is not allowed, I will ask the Moderator to remove it.
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OK apologies, another Hambridge married a Thompson and Grace was born in Brentford 1915@
Keyboard86
ok well I wouldn't be surprised because my great great grandfather thomas married a Emma walker then as you no he had a son called William Hambridge who married a Sarah Ann thampson then they had a son my grandad Joseph Samuel Hambridge who married my nan Hannah Walker my grandad Joseph Samuel Hambridge was born 20/4/1915 and my family was canal people
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HI again, I see on one of your latest posts you have put that you have knowledge of a "Fred" in the family of William/Sarah A Hambridge, as the 1939 and Electoral registers on at least two occasions show a WilFRED in the household, who married a Lilian May Endean living at 29, Boston Park Road, I would suggest Wilfred is Fred?
Wilfred & Lilian had 3 children 1 in St Austell 1947 and 2 in Ealing 1948/1951
Keyboard86
PS Mrs Lillian May Hambridge born 3rd May 1917 died 5th August 2009 Brentford aged 92 in 2002 she is living with one of her daughters in Acacia Avenue
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OK apologies, another Hambridge married a Thompson and Grace was born in Brentford 1915!
Keyboard86
Their were two boys born 1943 and 1947 to Olive and her husband
Kirsty will you please stop posting the name of the husband of Olive it is not allowed, I will ask the Moderator to remove it.
well after researching myself on myheritage olive rose burlow who was born on 21/2/1918 died on march 2006 Hounslow Middlesex
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HI again, I see on one of your latest posts you have put that you have knowledge of a "Fred" in the family of William/Sarah A Hambridge, as the 1939 and Electoral registers on at least two occasions show a WilFRED in the household, who married a Lilian May Endean living at 29, Boston Park Road, I would suggest Wilfred is Fred?
Wilfred & Lilian had 3 children 1 in St Austell 1947 and 2 in Ealing 1948/1951
Keyboard86
PS Mrs Lillian May Hambridge born 3rd May 1917 died 5th August 2009 Brentford aged 92 in 2002 she is living with one of her daughters in Acacia Avenue
Hi again, in case you never spotted it, will you answer this please.
Keyboard86
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HI again, I see on one of your latest posts you have put that you have knowledge of a "Fred" in the family of William/Sarah A Hambridge, as the 1939 and Electoral registers on at least two occasions show a WilFRED in the household, who married a Lilian May Endean living at 29, Boston Park Road, I would suggest Wilfred is Fred?
Wilfred & Lilian had 3 children 1 in St Austell 1947 and 2 in Ealing 1948/1951
Keyboard86
PS Mrs Lillian May Hambridge born 3rd May 1917 died 5th August 2009 Brentford aged 92 in 2002 she is living with one of her daughters in Acacia Avenue
Hi again, in case you never spotted it, will you answer this please.
Keyboard86
hi there do you no the names of lillian may hambridge children thanks
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We can't name them as they may still be alive but you can search for their names here
www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl
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I had a researcher write to me today and I would like to find out what happened to the boat of William Hambridge I have copied and pasted what I been sent today by the researcher so if anyone has any information about what happened to my great granddad William hambridge boat I would love to find out. Thank you.
William Hambridge, living on canal boat called “Providence”, at Punch Bowl Wharf, Tuttle Hill, Nuneaton. His occupation is a master of a canal boat
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Hi Kirsty
I have been looking for information about the Canal Boat named Providence, I found some information in the old newspaper columns, also a few links on the www, there are some photos in some of the stories about canal boat peoples, I found lots about the family Hambridge, if you go on the newspaper archives and search through what I have found much information is contained within the full articles that may assist you in your research, I realise that you may already know almost everything, I have also searched hard for other people who in the future may use what I have found as a start, good luck with your research, I do hope you find what you are looking for, the things that I have found are only things that I think may help, i have had a good time learning about the Canal People, very interesting indeed, thank you for putting up your request. Punch Bowl Wharf, Tuttle Hill, Nuneaton. well that seems to be an old public house near a bridge where the boats would pull in, some great history to, i like to get a feel for everything, i know its not everyones way, and some just want plain facts, i hope i have helped you in evan a small way
Large article below with William Hambridge talking about his life and hopes for the future, and maybe a photo connected, there are more photos on the other stories that tell of the Canal history times, well worth a look, a very interesting subject for an outsider like me, everything below just extracts from articles that contain much more information
Saturday 14 September 1963
Coventry Evening Telegraph
Warwickshire....... small extract
RETIRING AFTER 49 YEARS ON NARROW BOATS
NARROW BOAT captain, Mr. William Harnbridge,. who has spent most of his years on the canals and waterways of England, he has docked for the last time—at Hawkesbury Stop, Longford. Now Mr. Hambridge
Thursday 26 July 1951
Coventry Evening Telegraph
Warwickshire
COUNCIL WILL BUY AN INN
Subject to the approval of the county authority, Nuneaton Borough Council are to purchase the Old Punch Bowl Inn at Tuttle Hill. near Nuneaton, for industrial purposes
Saturday 26 February 1949
The Sphere
London
THE WATER GIPSIES OF JAPAN: The Life of the Bargees on Nippon's Great Rivers and Canals
barges commonly seen in Japanese rivers and canals are capable of taking on cargoes up to 200 tons. The early Japanese barge-men were neatly dressed in white pants, shirt and tabi (Japanese socks), and with their boats often gaily decorated with red and white
Saturday 01 February 1947
The Sphere
London
THE FIGHT TO SAVE ENGLAND'S CANALS: Sir Alan Herbert, M.P., Champions the Inland Waterways at a Moment of Crisis
... MONKEY BOATS ON A PICTURESQUE STRETCH OF THE OXFORD CANAL AT BANBURY The barges Friendship and Forget- me-not, typical of the craft which Sir Alan Herbert described in The Water Gipsies, with their bows mirrored in the placid waters of the canal CELEBRATED ...
Saturday 20 September 1947
The Sphere
London
VENICE HOLDS ITS GONDOLA REGATTA: A Popular Annual Event on the Grand Canal
... GONDOLA REGATTA All sorts of craft crowded the Grand Canal, including one heavily-manned boat, which is seen in the immediate foreground, with its standing oarsmen. The centre of the Rialto provided an excellent grandstand for a few of the many thousands
Tuesday 26 March 1946
Western Daily Press
Bristol
ON HIGH SEAS AND CANALS Seamen and Boatmen's Society Just before the war there were 10,000 canal boats registered at Lloyds, with 60,000 people living on them, in Great Britain. This was mentioned by the Rev. Alfred Kay. superintendent of the Sailors' Rest
Friday 01 August 1941
Clitheroe Advertiser and Times
Lancashire
OVER 100,000 MILES BY CANAL In an endeavour to bring into service boats which were of shortage of skilled labour, the Ministry of Transport offered grants to canal carrying companies for the training of canal boatmen
Wednesday 13 March 1940
Birmingham Daily Gazette
Warwickshire
via Canal System
demands on railways and roads, the possession of canals, providing a cheap, uncongested and accessible third line of transport, is of real advantage to a nation. Often termed the Cinderella of Industry, canals are now coming into their own
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Tuesday 22 August 1939
Leighton Buzzard Observer and Linslade Gazette
Bedfordshire
CANAL BOAT CHILDREN. FLOATING SCHOOL COMES TO LAND. The floating school in which, for some years, the children of men working on the Grand Union Canal have received elementary education has left its old moorings at West Drayton and has been hauled on
I was wondering in this article below, well is this how most canal boats end up
Tuesday 06 September 1932
Gloucester Citizen
Gloucestershire
PICKLED CANAL BOATS CRAFT TO BE RAISED AFTER 12 YEARS Numbers of old canal boats on the Grand unnion and Grand Junction Canals are to-day being raised from watery graves, in which they have lain for perhaps a dozen years. They have been in
Friday 31 January 1930
Dundee Evening Telegraph
Angus
BANNING CHILDREN FROM CANAL BOATS MP's Bill in Commons Only Way to Solve Education Difficulty In the House of Commons to-day, Mr H. Gosling (Soc., Whitechapel) moved the second reading of the CanalBoats Bill, which provides that no child
Friday 31 January 1930
Portsmouth Evening News
Hampshire
Canal Boats Cleaner Than Slums
The ordinary canal boat was cleaner than the slum, and the children led healthy outdoor life, moved for the rejection of the Bill. Sir John Withers said if they were passed in its present form it would be necessary to provide boarding schools for the thousand children
Saturday 21 December 1929
Yorkshire Post and Leeds Intelligencer
Yorkshire
CANAL BOAT CHILDREN. Sir,—The publication of the text of the Bill introduced by Mr. H. Gosling. M.P., to amend the Canal Boats Acts, 1877 and 1884, impels me to draw attention to the serious interruption of canal development which would follow ill-considered
Monday 24 December 1917
Sheffield Daily Telegraph
Yorkshire
canal boat Providence, moored , Paper mill coal wharf, Barnsley, canal iced
Saturday 27 February 1915
Bucks Herald
Buckinghamshire
the death of William Barrie, a boatman. Edward Jones, boatman employed at Linstade, gave evidence to identity. James Hambridge stated that he was going to Coventry with two boats Thursday
Friday 20 November 1908
Coventry Evening Telegraph
Warwickshire
William Hambridge. canal boatman, Nuneaton, was summoned by Frederick Chamberlain, manager of the Oxford Canal Co., for throwing things into the canal. Mr.Oliver J. Stockton, Benbury, it appeared to promote a practice on the part of the boatmen, of relieving the load on their boats by throwing the stone into the canal but the consequence was that the Consignee was cheated, and the company put to much mony to clear the canal. Over a ton of stone was missing from defendant's boat at the end of the journey. P.C. Capewell said on the 4th inst. he was on duty at the main bridge at Hawketery and saw defendant, who was in charge of a canal boat dropping stone, with which the boat was loaded, into the canal. Defendant denied the offence, but the Bench issued a fine of 10'. and costs, in default. 14 days
Thursday 18 April 1907
Banbury Advertiser
Oxfordshire
The twelve knives produced, witness received them from Eliza Hambridge, the wife of a canal boatman, on the 9th inst. By the Mayor; Witness was quite sure that Hartley said she found the knives
Wednesday 13 June 1906
Oxfordshire Weekly News
Oxfordshire
William Hambridge, boatman, was summoned for working a horse whilst in an unfit state, at Somerton. on May 15th. He pleaded not guilty
Friday 16 August 1901
Coventry Evening Telegraph
Warwickshire
COUNTY PETTY SESSIONS
Two Nuneaton boatmen, named John Thomas and Samuel Coles, were summoned by Richard Hambridge, Bedworth, for breaking and injuring part of a canal boat, and doing damage to the amount of £2, Bedworth, on the 10th
Friday 03 August 1900
Coventry Evening Telegraph
Warwickshire
Joseph Coles, boatman, Oxfordshire, summoned by Thomas Hambridge, boatman, for cruelty to a dog. The detendant was walking behind complainants horse, when the dog
Saturday 06 October 1900
Tamworth Herald
Staffordshire
ATHERSTONE COUNTY COURT
he would have had to have waited until the defendant passed.— Thomas Hambridge, boatman, stated that there was no other boat in sight when Moore's boat began to turn. —Emma Hambridge, Alfred Green, and John Chetwynd, landlord of the King's Head, Grendon
Friday 03 August 1900
Coventry Evening Telegraph
Warwickshire
NUNEATON POLICE COURT. -The following cases were too late for our edition on Thursday: Joseph Coles, boatman, Oxfordshire, summoned by Thomas Hambridge, boatman, for cruelty to a dog
Saturday 04 August 1900
Oxford Journal
Oxfordshire
OXFORD CITY COUNCIL
As examining officer under the Canal Boats Acts, I submit a report on Canal Boat Providence, belonging to William Lamsdon. The boat complies with the regulations, and I recommend that a certificate be granted
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Thursday 09 March 1899
Coventry Evening Telegraph
Warwickshire
NUNEATON AND DISTRICT NEWS
HORSE. Thos. Hambridge, boatman, Atherstone, was summoned for cruelly illtreating and torturing a horse by working it in an unfit state
Friday 23 June 1893
Coventry Herald
Warwickshire
REGISTERING CANAL BOAT. The canal boat “Providence,” belonging to Benjamin Beasley, of Hawkesbury, was registered. POULTRY, PIGEON, AND RABBIT SHOW AT COVENTRY. A show of poultry, pigeons, rabbits
Saturday 19 December 1891
Banbury Beacon
Oxfordshire
Canal Boats. —They recommend the Council reregister the canal boat Providence for Mr. Thomas Hambidge.
Thursday 07 August 1890
Banbury Advertiser
Oxfordshire
Alleged Assault. —William Coombs, boatman, of Nuneaton, was charged with assaulting James and Harriett Hambridge Allerbury, July 23rd.— The case was adjourned for a fortnight
Thursday 21 August 1890
Banbury Advertiser
Oxfordshire
Rival Boatmen. William Coombes, boatman, Nuneaton, was charged with assaulting James Hambridge, boatman, on July 23rd.— Defendant admitted shoving the complainant, but denied striking him
Saturday 01 June 1889
Derby Daily Telegraph
Derbyshire
license for the canal boat, Providence, No. 56, has been granted. FIRE BRIGADE COMMITTEE. This committee report six fires have occurred during the past
Thursday 06 June 1889
Derby Daily Telegraph
Derbyshire
A license for the canal boat, “ Providence,” No. 56, has been granted. —On the motion of Mr. Harrison, the report of the committee was adapted, with the excention
Wednesday 01 June 1887
Rugby Advertiser
Warwickshire
PETTY SESSIONS, Tuesday
Pugilistic Boatwomens. — Elizabeth Brickwell, wife of James Brickwell, canal boatman, was charged by Ann Hambridge, wife of William Hambridge, with using threats towards her at Rugby Wharf May 22., Sergeant Webb said they bad been unable to serve the summons upon them
Saturday 04 June 1887
Rugby Advertiser
Warwickshire
Alleged Threats.— Louisa Coles, wife Thomas Coles, canal boatman, was charged by Ann Hambridge with using threats towards to her at Rugby Wharf on May 22.—Defendant, on enturing the box. said she was a stranger
Thursday 29 June 1882
Banbury Guardian
Oxfordshire
The Alleged Theft of Brasses. a boatman, was brought on remand charged with stealing four brasses from a harness, the property of William Hambridge, on the 3rd of June. The prosecutor deposed that
Saturday 20 September 1879
Bristol Mercury
Bristol
Sad Death Drowning,—A very sad death of drowning occurred at the Gloucester and Berkeley Canal on Thursday. The canal boat Providence, laden and lying alongside a French schooner, into which her cargo
Monday 22 September 1879
Bristol Mercury
Bristol
The Accident in the Canal.—The body of Richard Jones the master of the canal boat, Providence, who was drowned by his craft foundering in the canal, has been recovered, and the inquest held
Friday 10 October 1879
Bicester Herald
Oxfordshire
Mr. James Hambridge, boatman
Friday 30 March 1877
Bristol Daily Post
Bristol
The story told in the paragraph to which we allude is a brief one. Lost Sunday morning an old bargeman, named George Hambridge, was found dead In his Boating home, where he had spent the greater portion of his life. There being no apparent cause for
Saturday 07 April 1877
Alcester Chronicle
Warwickshire
George Hambridge, 70, bargeman, who was found dead on his barge early Sunday morning. Mr. Wise, said the cause of death was inflammation
Saturday 09 November 1867
Coventry Standard
Warwickshire
—John Flyman, boatman, of Ashby-de-la-Zouch, was charged on the information of Supt. Austin, with assaulting and beating John Yardley, Sergeant of Police, on the Ist inst., at Nuneaton, while in the execution of his duty: and Samuel Hambridge, boatman, of Banbury, and John Whitehouse, boatman, of Aylesbury, Buckinghamshire, were charged with assaulting and beating
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Saturday 06 May 1865
Coventry Standard
Warwickshire
NUNEATON.
Attempted Suicide. —On Tuesday last the neighbourhood of Tuttle Hill were alarmed by the report that Mrs. Cotton, widow of the late John Cotton, who formerly kept the Punch Bowl Inn, had attempted to commit suicide by cutting her throat
Friday 16 June 1865
Coventry Standard
Warwickshire
NUNEATON
Frederick Joyce, of Nuneaton, was brought up in custody of p.c. Bosworth, charged with stealing £2. 18s. 4d., from a boat lying at the Punch Bowl bridge, the property of Mark Lenton, of Coventry, boatman. —The prisoner was remanded for the Nuneaton petty sessions
Saturday 23 July 1864
Rugby Advertiser
Warwickshire
Canal, and within a mile of the Railway Station – TWO SMALL HOLDINGS. RED BRICK AND TILE YARD, COTTAGE AND GARDEN. WHARF PART OF THE PUNCH BOWL INN.
Friday 15 February 1861
Coventry Standard
Warwickshire
NUNEATON
Superintendent Thomas Austin, Nuneaton, stated that several boats were staying near the Punch Bowl Bridge during the frost, and a chain of the value of 7s. was taken from a boat belonging to Mr
Friday 28 June 1861
Coventry Standard
Warwickshire
Superintendent Austin said : On Saturday morning last, between five and six o’clock, from information he received, I went to the Punch Bowl Bridge, Nuneaton, and there saw John Handley peeping over the left parapet of the bridge
Saturday 22 December 1860
Coventry Standard
Warwickshire
NUNEATON
unfit for duty for two days, but he succeeded in capturing him. Defendant is a boatman, and his boat was lying at the Punch-bowl bridge ; he stands about 6ft. in height, and is quite a young man. Fined
Saturday 18 June 1859
Coventry Standard
Warwickshire
NUNEATON. A Child Drowned.—Od Tuesday, the 7th inst., a little boy named Arthur Rayson, about 6 years of age, son of Mrs. Hannah Ratliff, was trolling for craw fish (crab fish) in the Coventry canal, near the PunchBowl Bridge, Nuneaton, accompanied with
Wednesday 30 June 1858
Coventry Times
Warwickshire
NUNEATON
Howes' and Cushing's Circus.—This large equestrian troupe, from New York, paid Nuneaton a visit a few days ago, and gave two performances, in a large field near the Punch Bowl Inn, one at half-past two o'clock and the other at eight
Wednesday 11 August 1858
Coventry Times
Warwickshire
NUNEATON
Robottom, farmer, of Tuttle Hill, Nuneaton, was busy harvesting in a field of oats, he fell from the top of a waggon load, and received such injuries that he died Sunday evening. An inquest was held on the body at the Punch Bowl, on Tuesday evening before
Friday 18 August 1848
Coventry Standard
Warwickshire
thrown a quantity of heavy stones at his boat, whereby it had been considerably damaged. Mrs. Drake, landlady of the Punch Bowl Inn, close to where the boat was lying, on hearing a noise got up and went to the window ; it being a clear moonlight night
Friday 06 November 1846
Coventry Standard
Warwickshire
According to the complainant’s statement, she and her husband have lately become landlord and landlady the Punch Bowl Inn, in Nuneaton. On the 28th of October a horse belonging to a boatman called Mills was standing opposite their door, being left
Saturday 29 August 1835
Leamington Spa Courier
Warwickshire
Warwick, Saturday, Aug 29, 1835
between eleven and twelve in the forenoon, George Hambridge, a boy about eight years of age, was unfortunately drowned in the third lock on the Warwick and Birmingham Canal. The father of the lad, a boatman in the employ of Messrs. Marriott and Whitley, told
Thursday 15 April 1830
Worcester Journal
Worcestershire
FREE OF AUCTION DUTY,
CANAL BOAT, TO SOLD BY AUCTION, BY MOORE and WEAVER, On Wednesday next, on the first day of April, 1830, at the Anchor Inn, in the borough of Tewkesbury, precisely at three o’clock in the afternoon ; CANAL BOAT, called THE PROVIDENCE, Burthen
Thursday 23 August 1827
Worcester Journal
Worcestershire
Newly-built CANAL BOAT, called THE PROVIDENCE.
on the link below there is a boat built called Providence, i do not know if its the Providence from the story above from 1827, or evan the Providence that you look for, good luck anyway i hope you find ""PROVIDENCE"
http://nurser.co.uk/construction/notebook-at-national-waterw/providence.html
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Wow you have been busy some great info here i will tell the Hambridge boat people i know to look at all your wonderful info. Many years ago around 6 i gave Kerstie then posting under jessica rabbit contact phone no for her Hambridge in Coventry (also part of my Harrison boatmen line )but for some reason she never contacted any of them or to take up my offer to meet them she only lives a few miles from me. sadly since then some have gone a boating to the great cut in the sky one just a few weeks ago
The boat providence you mention was actually at one time a wide beam horse boat hired by Emmanuell Smith a Canal carried at Durham Wharf Brentford & the Boatman named Harrison was Alan Harrison my GG grandad it was also in the hands of one of his sons for a while
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Punch Bowl Wharf had an area where the boatmen could tie up for a while whilst their wives had their babies i have several birth certificates of family members that state this place of their birth,The boat school was called the Elsdale it was an old wooden wide beam horse boat & started at Paddington then was moved to West Drayton but was decided there was not enough room & the children had no place to play so so it was moved again to Bulls Bridge depot & after several years some of the wood became un repairable so the whole boat was pulled up out the water onto the bank where it remained for many years lots of my family attended the school inc my Dad & some of the Hambridge google & you will find a lot of pictures . there is a wide electric boat now that teaches schools about the canals & that was also named the Elsdale
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Hi Jane
You are a nice and good person to share your stories, i have read your words and taken all the truth in them, i suppose the Canal life as changed over the years, around Nottingham there are miles of Canal, mostly now you see people just with flowers painted on their boats, not the real nitty gritty work-horses of the olden times, there used to be, well there still is but its different now, well we would call it the tow path, now its just a cycle or walkway for people out on a day out, the old tow path was for the horses that would pull the boats, every so offten i remember metal rings in the path to tie up the horse and boat i think, and sometimes if i remember there was something else but i can not really think of it right, i think there was some tread holds in the ground under the low bridges where the horse would not fit, the horse would go round and people would pull the boats using their feet to use the treads as a leaver, well i remember things like that ,if they are true or false i dont know, i never saw this happen but when i was young we would use the old canal system as a guide to cross the City, right from my place named Sneinton the old Canal would head over towards Long Eaton Trent Lock way, we would offten walk miles me and brothers and pals, the Canals were over grown then, not all pretty like now, we would use the Canal and then climb banks to railway lines and walk them for a distance, then you found yourself at Wollaton Park, a great big open place with wild deer and lots of trees, that's how we got there by not using the roads, by the time we got back at night you could drink three classes of water you was so dry, the Canal now from the edge of Sneinton to the Long Eaton way is different to for another reason, back long ago the Canal was dead of the old way, when i was young it was a strange place, it was straddled by old factory type buildings all the way from Sneinton to the City where the Castle is, well back then the buildings had pipes and drain holes where steam or kinds of water would pump out into the Canal, it was a strange place to walk, lots was overgrown and steam was flowing out the buildings and evan hissing, not much people would walk the old Canal then, it was like our secret way, thank you for telling of the things you know it as been of great interest to learn of the Canal People
ps. i was just looking at the history of the Canal around Nottingham just to get a true feel for the truth and i started finding sad storeys of times gone, without this thread i would never have thought of such things, one thing always leads to another
Friday 10 July 1908
Nottingham Evening Post
Nottinghamshire
SNEINTON BOY DROWNED. FATAL FALL AT PLAY. Shortly after half past four yesterday afternoon William Clayton, aged eight, a schoolboy, whose parents live at Walker-street, Carlton-road, Sneinton, fell into the canal between the Carrington-street Bridge and
Friday 02 February 1866
Nottinghamshire Guardian
Nottinghamshire
Child Drowned at Sneinton.— On Thursday evening C. Swarm, Esq., the county coroner, held an inquest at the Sir Robert Peel public-house, Sneinton, on the body of Eugene Theodore Wilkins, who was found drowned in the canal near Sneinton Hermitage
Saturday 22 September 1832
Nottingham Journal
Nottinghamshire
CHILD FOUND IN THE CANAL.—About nine o'clock on Wednesday last, as some boatmen were proceeding up the canal with a boat, they discovered, about one hundred yards beyond at the Canal Inn, a female infant floating in the water
on this link below is the canal we would use as a road, to cross the city, it has changed now to a cleaned up place, some of the old buildings are still there as you can see, it was just a sort of natural dirt track with brambles and grass growing in parts, now you can walk for miles with children or dogs or evan a bike ride, lots of the old buildings that bordered the canal have been demolished, when i was young it was a dark and forboding place, very airey and atmospheric
https://canalrivertrust.org.uk/news-and-views/media-centre/filming-and-photography/our-filming-and-photography-locations/castle-wharf-nottingham-and-beeston-canal
Thank you again for telling of your Canal People i will look up the information that you spoke of, i will look over the web sites and hopefully have a fuller picture of the past you paint
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I was just wondering why did the hambridge family started working as canal boat man and lived on them and what did for a living before delivering coal.
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Hi Jane
You are a nice and good person to share your stories, i have read your words and taken all the truth in them, i suppose the Canal life as changed over the years, around Nottingham there are miles of Canal, mostly now you see people just with flowers painted on their boats, not the real nitty gritty work-horses of the olden times, there used to be, well there still is but its different now, well we would call it the tow path, now its just a cycle or walkway for people out on a day out, the old tow path was for the horses that would pull the boats, every so offten i remember metal rings in the path to tie up the horse and boat i think, and sometimes if i remember there was something else but i can not really think of it right, i think there was some tread holds in the ground under the low bridges where the horse would not fit, the horse would go round and people would pull the boats using their feet to use the treads as a leaver, well i remember things like that ,if they are true or false i dont know, i never saw this happen but when i was young we would use the old canal system as a guide to cross the City, right from my place named Sneinton the old Canal would head over towards Long Eaton Trent Lock way, we would offten walk miles me and brothers and pals, the Canals were over grown then, not all pretty like now, we would use the Canal and then climb banks to railway lines and walk them for a distance, then you found yourself at Wollaton Park, a great big open place with wild deer and lots of trees, that's how we got there by not using the roads, by the time we got back at night you could drink three classes of water you was so dry, the Canal now from the edge of Sneinton to the Long Eaton way is different to for another reason, back long ago the Canal was dead of the old way, when i was young it was a strange place, it was straddled by old factory type buildings all the way from Sneinton to the City where the Castle is, well back then the buildings had pipes and drain holes where steam or kinds of water would pump out into the Canal, it was a strange place to walk, lots was overgrown and steam was flowing out the buildings and evan hissing, not much people would walk the old Canal then, it was like our secret way, thank you for telling of the things you know it as been of great interest to learn of the Canal People
ps. i was just looking at the history of the Canal around Nottingham just to get a true feel for the truth and i started finding sad storeys of times gone, without this thread i would never have thought of such things, one thing always leads to another
Friday 10 July 1908
Nottingham Evening Post
Nottinghamshire
SNEINTON BOY DROWNED. FATAL FALL AT PLAY. Shortly after half past four yesterday afternoon William Clayton, aged eight, a schoolboy, whose parents live at Walker-street, Carlton-road, Sneinton, fell into the canal between the Carrington-street Bridge and
Friday 02 February 1866
Nottinghamshire Guardian
Nottinghamshire
Child Drowned at Sneinton.— On Thursday evening C. Swarm, Esq., the county coroner, held an inquest at the Sir Robert Peel public-house, Sneinton, on the body of Eugene Theodore Wilkins, who was found drowned in the canal near Sneinton Hermitage
Saturday 22 September 1832
Nottingham Journal
Nottinghamshire
CHILD FOUND IN THE CANAL.—About nine o'clock on Wednesday last, as some boatmen were proceeding up the canal with a boat, they discovered, about one hundred yards beyond at the Canal Inn, a female infant floating in the water
on this link below is the canal we would use as a road, to cross the city, it has changed now to a cleaned up place, some of the old buildings are still there as you can see, it was just a sort of natural dirt track with brambles and grass growing in parts, now you can walk for miles with children or dogs or evan a bike ride, lots of the old buildings that bordered the canal have been demolished, when i was young it was a dark and forboding place, very airey and atmospheric
https://canalrivertrust.org.uk/news-and-views/media-centre/filming-and-photography/our-filming-and-photography-locations/castle-wharf-nottingham-and-beeston-canal
Thank you again for telling of your Canal People i will look up the information that you spoke of, i will look over the web sites and hopefully have a fuller picture of the past you paint
thank you for your pleasant reply sorry for the delay in my reply I have been away from the computer .there are many books that can be purchased from selling pages that will also help you understand the way of the canals & its people years back also their dress .customs & superstitions if at any time you get to travel to one of the many canal festivals let me know if I am there it would be a pleasure to show you around the boats & chat I would also fetch some of my old family photos
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I was just wondering why did the hambridge family started working as canal boat man and lived on them and what did they do for a living before delivering coal.
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Hi Jane
Thank you for such a kind offer, who knows one day i may write back, i do hope life is keeping you fine and all your family are well, i have learned much from just reading from this thread, you represent the Canal People well and show them for the People they are, i will try and learn more of their life and ways, good luck to you in the future, i wish only for the best of days to guide you onwards
michael
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Hi Kirsty
To be truthfull i do not know what you wish to know, i am sure thoe that you will find out, so i have collected a few storys of the times before the last one i found about George Hambridge
Saturday 29 August 1835
Leamington Spa Courier
Warwickshire
between eleven and twelve in the forenoon, George Hambridge, a boy about eight years of age, was unfortunately drowned in the third lock on the Warwick and Birmingham Canal. The father of the lad, a boatman in the employ of Messrs. Marriott and Whitley
So the storys i put on next are just extracts, they have to me no refference to the Canal People, they are Hambridge by name only, and the locations are all over, plus the ways of life styles differ, it is up to you to see if anything i write makes you think that their could be an older connection to the Canal Hambridges, i have been learning about the Canal times and maybe the Hambridge Family goes back well to the times of the first canals and before this they may well have been boatmen of the rivers or evan sailors, or evan people who transported goods about in horse drawn wagons of old, the storys i have found is all i know, i have found a few more storys plus photos, i will put there location on for you to access at a later time
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Tuesday 19 May 1778
Leeds Intelligencer
Yorkshire
BANKRUPTS
Johnson, of Doncaster, in Yorkshire, Grocer. George Pulling, of Romsey, Hampshire, Brewer. James Meredith and Tho. Hambridge.of Worcester.Grocers
Monday 03 September 1798
Reading Mercury
Berkshire
BANKRUPTS. William Hambridge, of Faringdon, Berkshire, corn-dealer
Saturday 11 May 1799
Oxford Journal
Oxfordshire
Auction; near Faringdon, upwards of 113 Acres of Land, left to Mr. Hambridge at an old Rent, between Oxford and Abingdon
Tuesday 25 February 1800
Kentish Weekly Post or Canterbury Journal
Kent
DIVIDENDS
William Heath, of Little Coxwell. Berks, brickmaker, at the Bell Inn, in Great Farinrdon, Berks. March 18. William Hambridge, of Great Faringdon, Berks, corn-dealer, the Bell Inn, in Great Farringdon, Berks
Monday 18 August 1806
Hampshire Chronicle
Hampshire
LONDON
Thursday afternoon, the following dreadful accident happened:—A Mr. Bolton, haberdasher, in Stanhopestreet, Clare Market, was travelling with his son, a fine boy, four years old, inside the Bath and Taunton doublebodied coach, in Picadilly, when the door flew open, and the child fell out. The hind wheels of the vehicle, which was loaded with from 14 to 20 passengers, went over both the legs of the child, above the ancle, and broke the bones into splinters, it was to shocking to give a full description of; the blood that flowed copiously from the wounds, and the legs seemed only to be held together by the sinews.The poor child was taken to the shop of Mr. Hambridge, in Piccadilly, where every assistance was afforded alleviate its sufferings
Tuesday 16 December 1806
Chester Courant
Cheshire
BANKRUPTS. STEPHEN HAMBRIDGE, of Petterlane, London, and William Hambridge, of Stroud, Gloucester, clothiers. cloth razors, and co-partners. To appear Dec. 18, 19, Jan, 20, at the King's Arms, in Stroud, Attorney
Sunday 24 October 1813
Windsor and Eton Express
Berkshire
The Jury found them both guilly. Joln Holden and Thomas Jones were convicted of receiving bushel oats, the pronerty H. Hambridge, which had been stolen by his servant
Saturday 08 March 1817
Oxford Journal
Oxfordshire, England
Advertisements & Notices
Bankrupt, bearing the date of the 21st day of February, 1814, awarded and issued forth against JOHN HAMBRIDGE, of Stow-on-the-Wold, in the county of Glocester, currier, dealer and chapman, intend to meet on the 14th day of March next
Saturday 31 May 1817
Northampton Mercury
Northamptonshire
Joseph Clark, for stealing two mares, the property of Richard Hambridge
Friday 25 July 1817
Stamford Mercury
Lincolnshire
NORTHAMPTON ASSIZES
Acquitted. Edward Tierney Fitzgerald, for stealing a silver watch, a great coat, &c. the property of Richard Hambridge
Saturday 08 August 1818
Oxford University and City Herald
Oxfordshire
HOUSE, now in full trade, called the INN, in Magdalen Parish, in the County of Oxford, now in the occupation Mr. William Hambridge, tenant; comprising dining room, two parlours, nine sleeping rooms two kitchens
Saturday 19 January 1822
Oxford University and City Herald
Oxfordshire
Wednesday last was married, Mr. Edward Newman, of the Black Swan, public house, to Mrs. Hambridge, of the Bell Inn, Magdalen Parish, in this city
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Monday 02 August 1824
Hampshire Chronicle
Hampshire
Winchester,
... the property of Jesse Elliott, the elder, of Bramley, Hants, guilty Death. W. Cooper, for breaking Open the house John Hambridge,of Eton Hastings, and sterling a quantity of tea and sugar— Seven years transportation. R. Franklin, and James Jones, for
Thursday 24 August 1826
Bath Chronicle and Weekly Gazette
County: Somerset
CHELTENHAM
Mary Ann Hogg, Cheltenham ; Robert Jackson, charged with an assault, on Fanny Capel Smith, infant under ten years age ; Wm. Hambridges charged with stealing sheep
Saturday 14 October 1826
Birmingham Journal
Warwickshire
curriers.— J, Hambridge, Stow-on-the-Wold. Gloucestershire, currier; White Hart, Evesham
Saturday 05 January 1828
Berkshire Chronicle
Berkshire
for trial at the Sessions, charged with stealing turkeys; William Hambridge, by W. Quelch, Esq.
1 month tread wheel
Saturday 26 January 1828
Berkshire Chronicle
Berkshire
LOCALITIES AND GENERALITIES
—James Parker, charged with being concerned with Edw. and Chas Bunce, poaching, above stated —John Mansfield, for stealing a blanket and napkin, from the horse of Henry Wright, at Shipton under Whichwood.—John Rowles, for having been found in Cornbury Park on the night, armed with a gun for the destruction of game.—William Giles, for a similar offence on the manor of the Marquis of Bute, at Broughton.—Felix Strange and Henry Ayres. charged with a similar offence in Lydall's Wood, in the parish of .— Thomas Maddin, for assaulting Ann Hambridge,Six months.—Thos. Masters, for stealing eight skins of leather, the property of W. Grace, of Charlbury
Saturday 10 January 1829
Perry's Bankrupt Gazette
London
ASSIGNEES OF BANKRUPTS
Thomas Hambridge, farmer, Oxon, Gloucestershire
Thursday 07 May 1829
Bath Chronicle and Weekly Gazette
Somerset
SOMERSET EASTER SESSIONS
John Cundry, for stealing 10 bags of potatoes ; Thos, Bryant, and Jas. Warburton, for stealing barley.— Ten Months : Fred. Hanbridge, for stealing a one pound note, whipped
Thursday 07 July 1831
Southern Reporter and Cork Commercial Courier
Cork, Republic of Ireland
A well-known pugilist, and host of the French Horn, which seems to have transferred from the Queen’s Head that of poor Mr. Hambridge, who, from 1821 to 1828, when a slight misunderstanding and separation occurred between him and his wife, had lived in unbroken
Monday 16 April 1832
Sherborne Mercury
Dorset
London Sessions, Saturday, Robert and Richard Hambridge, wilfully exposed for sale in their shop, Newgate Market
Monday 04 June 1832
Reading Mercury
Berkshire
FARM TO LET. TO BE LET, at Michaelmas next, HAMBRIDGE FARM, near NEWBURY, containing 230 Acres of Land. Free of Great Tithes. For particulars, apply personally, to Mr. Bunny, solicitor, Newbury. Berks. VERY VALUABLE ESTATES, Both for Occupation and Investment
Saturday 07 July 1832
Berkshire Chronicle
Berkshire
OXFORD, JULY 6
EDWARD FOX, for obtaining a leg of mutton with intent to cheat and defraud William Hambridge, of Witney. Seven days j imprisonment
Thursday 25 October 1832
London Evening Standard
London
brought before Mr. Murray, at Union hall, charged with stealing a quantity of hops, the propetty of employers, and John Hambridge, a dealer in marine stores, King-streat, Snow-fields, charged with receiving them, knowing them to have been stolen
Monday 20 October 1834
Morning Post
London
OLD BAILEY SESSIONS
Before the Common Sergeant.) Felony. — Robert Hambridge, a youth of genteel appearance, was indicted for stealing a 30/. bank note, the property of his highly-respectable employers
Wednesday 12 November 1834
Public Ledger and Daily Advertiser
London
THE MORNING NEWS
three of the most troublesome characters in the district, who had been repeatedly in custody for various offences. James Hambridge, policeman, No. 199 K division, said he had the prisoner Gillier in custody
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Hi Kirsty
I have been trying to find information for you,you dont have to write back, that's alls good, well i found some more photos, you may have them i don't know, but it would be a shame if photos just went old in the old papers and no one would ever see them, i will put a few up over the days to come, if you go on the newspaper archive web site you can join up and get three free goes by just logging on, or a months worth of goes for a few pounds, i hope you find some of the things i found of interest to you, i have tryed my best to help you, no need at all to write back just see if any of the photos are of your people, this one below is a Hambridge one, if you ask the people on the newspaper archive web site to get you a photo i am sure they will help you get a real good copy, it is a very good genealogy site, i do not talk to them but they seem real nice people who like to help folk, you can evan write to the newspaper and they may get you a copy to, i have found more and will help you to see them and a few more family storys that you may access by using the information i find, i have tryed for many hours looking for you, i don't mind at all, i hope you are well and look after yourself, i will put more information about other photos and writing soon
Tuesday 17 February 1948
Birmingham Daily Gazette
Warwickshire
Touring part of the Southern Region for the Docks and Inland Waterways Executive, Sir Reginald Hill, its chairman (left), and Mr. Ronald Davidson (right) yesterday came upon Mr.Hambridge. Our picture shows them chatting in Mr. Hambridge's barge as it was unloading aluminium ingots at Tyseley Wharf, on the Grand Union Canal Sir Reginald will see collieries with waterway connections in the Coventry area to-day.
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Hi Kirsty
This is a full page photo of Mrs. S, Hambridge, if you do not have this one it is a must for any collection for the family album, it's a great one, i wander who S. Hambridge is
Friday 23 August 1957
Birmingham Weekly Post
Warwickshire
Mrs. S. Hambridge on board her floating home, the Bellerphon, one of the three narrow boats owned by her husband. This week they are taking part in the National Boat Rally in the carry coal and metal between the Coventry canal basin organised by the Inland Waterways Association.
A special two-page picture feature on the rally will appear in the next issue of the Weekly Post.
More photos of the rally stated above to be found at at this location below
Friday 30 August 1957
Birmingham Weekly Post
Warwickshire
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Hi Kirsty
This is a full page photo of Mrs. S, Hambridge, if you do not have this one it is a must for any collection for the family album, it's a great one, i wander who S. Hambridge is
Friday 23 August 1957
Birmingham Weekly Post
Warwickshire
Mrs. S. Hambridge on board her floating home, the Bellerphon, one of the three narrow boats owned by her husband. This week they are taking part in the National Boat Rally in the carry coal and metal between the Coventry canal basin organised by the Inland Waterways Association.
A special two-page picture feature on the rally will appear in the next issue of the Weekly Post.
More photos of the rally stated above to be found at at this location below
Friday 30 August 1957
Birmingham Weekly Post
Warwickshire
hi this could be my great nan Sarah Ann Thompson she married my great granddad William hambridge a boatman
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Hi Kirsty
This is a full page photo of Mrs. S, Hambridge, if you do not have this one it is a must for any collection for the family album, it's a great one, i wander who S. Hambridge is
Friday 23 August 1957
Birmingham Weekly Post
Warwickshire
Mrs. S. Hambridge on board her floating home, the Bellerphon, one of the three narrow boats owned by her husband. This week they are taking part in the National Boat Rally in the carry coal and metal between the Coventry canal basin organised by the Inland Waterways Association.
A special two-page picture feature on the rally will appear in the next issue of the Weekly Post.
More photos of the rally stated above to be found at at this location below
Friday 30 August 1957
Birmingham Weekly Post
Warwickshire
hi this could be my great nan Sarah Ann Thompson she married my great granddad William hambridge a boatman. I had a email from her researcher which is why I have sent you the snapshot of this email regarding William and his brother Fred and Thomas my great great grandfather I would love to know what happened to Thomas and he's wife.
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Hi Kirsty
I found this one below, I left out their first names and full address just incase they may still be around, I will put more on soon.
If i come across a Thomas and Wife i will put the story on here, thank you for telling of your Family history
Friday 29 December 1978
Coventry Evening Telegraph
Warwickshire extract
CANAL FOLK
STILL missing the way of life of working-boat people although they've been ashore for 15 years, they are Mr. W………..Hambridge and his wife, M………who live at ……….Close,………Road, Holbrooks. Coventry. They are seen with a model of a working-boat made by Mr Hambridge's father, who owned his own boats. They were brought up on boats worked by their families, and raised their own family of 18 children of whom 15 are still maitnaining the way of life of the canals. They carried wheat, maize, copper, lead and coal between the Midlands and London and then British Waterways; the Hambridges worked until cargo-carrying operations ran down. Mr Hambridge found a job at Chrysler, working the paint shop, and has recently retired after 15 year's. He and his wife have happy memories of the boats “hard work, but we got used to it” and would have continued on them if it had been possible. They made some trips to Coventry canal basin, St Nicholas Street with timber During the war. they continued to make their deliveries, during heavy raids, they brought sugar supplies in to the Coventry basin. All the children were of school age and went to a school in Birmingham. rejoining the family at holiday times. There were horse boats. then motor boats: commercial carriers, ………………
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Hi Kirsty
There are more photos on this newspaper record, i left out the full names but if you go to the newspaper archive web site you will be able to see all the full articles with the full names and photographs, i will put one more post on with the last records then i will not be back here, it as been of real interest and benifit to learn the little i have learned about the Canal People, i will say more on my last post to you, also just to tell you i have found records of the Thompsons Canal People, maybe they are related to the Sarah who married old William
Saturday 08 March 1958
Birmingham Daily Post
Warwickshire
In the boot-room, R………… Lowe, who has joined the Boy Scouts. does a good deed, helping D………. Hambridge to clean his shoes at the Hostel That is a Home for Canal Boat Children The Matron, Mrs . L………… Gunton
By a Staff Reporter
In a gaily - decorated dormitory in a Birmingham suburb last night six little girls, none older than seven. sat listening to matron reading a bedtime story. Each wore the same hairstyle and similar nightdresses and there seemed nothing to distinguish them from any other little girls of their age. Not very long ago, however. those children were living as members of canal boat familes with three, four and even five children sharing a mattress in the same cramped cabin as their parents. Often there are more than ten children in the family and school attendance officers at canal ends are rarely able to enforce the law. That was the position until 1951 when Birmingham Education Committee decided to open a hostel for canal boat children. To-day the experiment is going so well that Middlesex Education Committee is pondering on a similar scheme.
The Matron, Mrs. L………Gunton. reading a bed-time story to some of her young charges.
Waiting List
The success of the hostel. Wood End Hall. Erdington. undoubtedly owes much to the enthusiasm of the matron. Mrs. L……… Gunton. a widow whose first task was to visit the wharfes of Birmingham and Coventry and persuade canal boat parents that their children deserved an education. When the hostel opened In November. 1951. ten children went to her and since then the numbers have steadily risen until now, with 29 children of all ages from five to 14. the hostel is full and there is a waiting list. In the past six years more than 100 boys and girls have lived at the hostel. Some of the first children are still there but others who ought to be there did not return after holidays
Three of the boys at Wood End Hall Hostel, D…….. Hambridge, C……….. Barrett and D…… Ward, busy with their tooth-brushes
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Hi Kirsty
A few more photos and storys, there is more to find, i just found these storys of interest, they are all mixed up in date, i hope you are well and it as been of great help to me to learn of the times of the Canal People, I will not be writing back now so no need to say no more, i know people in their research are offten only looking for certain people in a direct way, i find if you go sideways or back, or evan way out, like just researching a different name, well all of a sudden what you were first searching for comes up, good luck for the future and look after yourself
Thursday 27 February 1851
Banbury Guardian
Oxfordshire
CANAL COAL BOATS.—Apply to Mr. John Hambridge, Cassington Wharf, Ensham, near Oxford
Thursday 13 August 1908
Banbury Advertiser
Oxfordshire
The following canal boats registered “Emma” for Mr. Thomas Hambridge. Banbury; “Ocean.” for Mr. Henry Hambridge. Banbury . and “William ,” for Mr. William Hambridge, Nuneaton. Alderman Cooper seconded, and humorously commented upon the naming of canal boat as “Queen of the Ocean. I suppose it refers to the time when we shall have a Ship Canal in Banbury. Chard said be remembered a boat being named “Mind your business”. (Laughter). The report was adopted.
Wednesday 10 September 1913
Oxfordshire Weekly News
Oxfordshire
THRUPP. landlord of the Three Horse Shoes, who celebrated his golden wedding last week-end, recalls many incidents of olden times, and hopes in the near future to reproduce them in a book form. At the time of our wedding, said Mr. Hambridge my wages were 13s, weekly, and I was employed as captain on one of my uncle's canal boats, when the carrying trade was much more brisk than it is to-day. I was Married on the Sunday, the following day i return to work (honeymoons were not so popular in our day), my wife returning to the paper mill, where she was employed as a fibre sorter at 8d. per day, while I continued my coal unloading.
Wednesday 03 August 1881
Oxfordshire Weekly News
Oxfordshire
temporary transfer of licence of the Three Horse Shoes, Thrupp Inn, from William Hambridge to Thomas Wade, was granted till the next transfer day
Wednesday 23 July 1890
Oxfordshire Weekly News
Oxfordshire
A temporary transfer of license of the Three Horse Shoes Inn, Thrupp, Thomas Ellard (deceased) to Elizabeth Ellard was granted
Wednesday 20 April 1904
Oxfordshire Weekly News
Oxfordshire
Temporary transfers of the licences of the Three Horse Shoes Inn, Thrupp from William Woodley to Frederick Harper, were also granted
Wednesday 13 August 1884
Oxfordshire Weekly News
Oxfordshire
AN application was made by Thomas Ellard, of Thump, for a transfer of the license of the Three Horse Shoes public-house in that village, from William Hambridge to himself. The applicant, however, failed to produce any evidence
Wednesday 01 September 1880
Oxfordshire Weekly News
Oxfordshire
UNJUST WEIGHTS AND MEASURES.— William Hambridge, landlord of the Three Horse Shoes Thrupp was summoned by Inspector Hawtin, for having in his possession. one quart cup and one quart jug, both being ...
Wednesday 27 August 1884
Oxfordshire Weekly News
Oxfordshire
A renewed application for a transfer of the license of The Three Horse Shoes public-house, Thrupp, from William Hambridge to Thomas Ellard was granted
Wednesday 24 June 1914
Oxfordshire Weekly News
Oxfordshire
renewal of the licence of the Three Horse Shoes, Thrupp (Owners: Hall'. Oxford Brewery, Ltd. Licensee: William Hambridge). Mr. A. G. Higgs opposed the application. Inspector Soelgrove (Woodstock) said there were three licensed houses in
saturday 07 June 1913
Uxbridge & W. Drayton Gazette
London
ALLEGED BlGAMY.—At,Brentford Police Court, last Friday. Benjamin Hart, 63, a bargeman, of London Road, Brentford, was charged with feloniously intermarrying with Mary Hambridge at the Parish Church, Uxbridge. on June 14th, 1896, his first wife. Eliza Hart, being then and now alive.—Mary Hambridge said she lived at Brentford She went through the form of marriage with the prisoner at the Pariah Church of Uxbridge on June 14th, 1896: prisoner then described himself as a widower. She had lived with the prisoner since. Prisoner did not tell her he was married.--Prisoner: She said
Saturday 14 June 1913
Uxbridge & W. Drayton Gazette
London
ALLEGED BIGAMY.—At Brentford, on Saturday. Benjamin Hart, 63, of London Road, Brentford was charged on remand with feloniously. intermarrying with Mary Hambridge, at the Parish Church. Uxbridge, in 1896. his wife being then and now alive.—Mary Hart, of Brentford, stepmother to accused. said she was present when prisoner was married in 1875 at Turnharn Green Church to a woman named Pearce. She signed the register. Prisoner was then a bachelor. She saw Mrs. Hart last November, at a funeral.— Detective-Sergt said on May 29th he saw prisoner and Hambridge. He told prisoner he would be arrested for bigamy with Hambridge. Prisoner said he did not know his wife was…………..
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Thursday 13 September 1951
Coventry Evening Telegraph
Warwickshire
A WIDE RANGE
It appears that many modellers cannot get away from their work, for a model of a narrow boat, used on the canals, was made by Mr. J. Hambridge when he was not fully occupied with his Canal barge. True to life and tradition, it bears the colourful decorations of the real thing. The exhibition contains a wide range of exhibits, and besides the usual, but none the less splendid models of locomotives and steam engines………
Wednesday 06 July 1938
Coventry Evening Telegraph
Warwickshire
The Canal Barge Horse, and the Old Boot, the Story told is a canal barge horse can be seen jogging peacefully along the tow-paths of the Warwickshire and Oxford canals. chewing peacefully at a measure of oats—with an old boot trailing behind him
Saturday 04 June 1938
West Middlesex Gazette
London
BARGE HORSE SHOT IN CANAL Slipped In : Rescue Efforts Fail A canal barge horse shied at passing traffic at The Common, Southall. near Old Oak Bridge, yesterday morning
Saturday 04 January 1936
Tamworth Herald
Staffordshire
BARGE HORSE'S FALL INTO CANAL. Animal Dead When Hauled Out. On Monday afternoon a horse drawing a barge, and belonging to lessrs. Dumolow's, of Birmingham, when negotiating the canal bridge on the Watling ...
Friday 23 February 1900
Lincolnshire Chronicle
Lincolnshire
The French are trying motor barges on canals. The motors are about 12-horse-power, and they drive twin propellers, and the speed is greater than with horses on the towpath
Monday 21 March 1927
The Scotsman
Midlothian
CANAL BARGE FIRE TWO . CHILDREN SUFFOCATED .
Two children—John Mason , aged-five , and Albert Mason , aged 15 months—were suffocated in a fire in the barge Bose , lying in the Brentford Canal late on Saturday night
Friday 24 June 1938
Staffordshire Sentinel
Staffordshire
Girl's Fatal Fall from Barge Horse SAD STORY AT STOKE INQUEST The sad story of a canal boatman's daughter's fatal fall from a barge horse, was related at an inquest at the North Staffordshire Royal Infirmary to-day
Tuesday 02 November 1915
Derby Daily Telegraph
Derbyshire
SUFFOCATED IN A CANAL BARGE
Four children whose father was a canal boatman named were last night suffocated in the cabin of a canal boat lying off Brentford dock
Thursday 02 February 1928
Gloucester Citizen
Gloucestershire
BETWEEN BARGE AND CANAL BANK. Mr. B. R. Masser (Deputy Coroner) recorded a verdict of accidental deat in the inquest at Coventry, on Wednesday. Albert Hambridge (10), son of canal boat owner. It appeared that the boy fell between the barge and the canal bank at Leighton,Thursday last, and was crushed. on Saturday the boy became worse, he was hurried to Coventry and Warwickshire Hospital but died from internal injuries
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Just one more words
never forget the Dead
I have read that the Oxford Canal was extended In 1788, the canal company bought the local watermill, demolished most of it, and built a row of cottages in its place next to the canal, it was known as salt row. There were two public houses, the Axe which is now the Boat Inn, and the Three Horseshoes which closed in 1924, the Britannia opened on the main Banbury Road. It has since been renamed the Jolly Boatman
Below you will see how the Inn can now be traced to a cotage, all Hambridge People must vissit this place, then on the next link they have several landlords or tenants of this inn but no one knows of the Hambridgers
http://www.closedpubs.co.uk/oxfordshire/thrupp_threehorseshoes.html
https://pubshistory.com/Oxfordshire/Thrupp/ThreeHorseShoes.shtml
Saturday 18 March 1843
Oxford Chronicle and Reading Gazette
Oxfordshire
On Monday last, at the Three Horse Shoes, Thrupp, on view the bodies of John Boyes, aged 7 years, and his brother, Joseph aged 2 years, who were drowned in the Oxford Canal. There was evidence to show how they fell into the Canal, but it was supposed that Joseph Boyes, the youngest, had first fallen, and that his brother John, in endeavouring to get him out, had fallen in also. From the evidence of Emma batts, daughter of the constable of Thrupp, it appeared that about half-past two o'clock on Saturday afternoon she was walking down the Towing-path, and saw Joseph Boyes floating in the Oxford Canal, near the Wicket Gate in Thrupp parish; she immediately told Elizabeth Aries, wife John Aries, blacksmith, and publican, and Mrs. Aries went out of her house and saw the child floating, but did not attempt to get him out. Her husband was not at home. After seeing the child in the Canal, she went into her house, and told a man who was there that there was a child in the water; he went out and saw it, but did not attempt to get him out. Mrs ……………………..
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Hi Kirsty
We are volunteers on here who look for info to help others with their family research. It is then up to you to verify the info and decide if the info is correct, bearing in mind that names of ancestors are not always spelled the way we expect them to be. You need to collect a paper trail of such things as BMD certificates, baptism and burial records, and census returns to help you with this. As I pointed out, the image of the parish record of the marriage is on Ancestry so you don't even need to order that certificate. If you don't have an Ancestry subscription, check if your local public library subscribes to Ancestry Library Edition....this would give you access to the images.
PB
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Hi I have shown you the birth registration of an Emma Walker b 1862 Banbury with mothers maiden name Jellyman, and the census returns for Emma in 1871 & 1881 in Banbury, why bring up an Emma with a middle initial "J" ?
Keyboard86
it's something I camed across on myheritage that's why I asked
hi I can find the death of Emma hambridge born walker on findmypast website can I please have some help please thanks
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hi I can find the death of Emma hambridge born walker on findmypast website can I please have some help please thanks
Kirsty, you have begun a new thread, an hour ago, saying you can't find the death of Emma and asking for help. I and another person have already replied on the new thread.
P.S. Seems to have been answered on new thread.
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There is another thread that has been running concerning George Herbert Walker.
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=782973.msg6576481#msg6576481
I copy below details of a couple of posts I have made on that thread that contain pertinent information.
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George Herbert Walker was baptised in 1886 in Brinklow, Warwickshire. This provides the information that his mother was Emily Walker, a single woman. No father is named.
1881 census for Brinklow has an Emily Walker age 18, daughter of James and Mary Ann Walker. She is likely to be the mother of George Herbert Walker.
In 1891 George is living in Stockton, Warwickshire with his mother Emily and a sister called Rose ( born as Rose Morris with mmn Walker in Brinklow in 1888). Emily, George and Rose all have the surname Morris and Emily indicates that she is married, but her husband is not present.
In 1901 Emily ( still using the name Morris and claiming to be married) is living in Brinklow. Rose and George are not with her but she has three other children - Charles age 6, Lily age 1 and an unnamed infant. The births of all these children are registered as Morris with mmn Walker. No husband is present.
There is no record of a marriage between Emily and someone called Morris and it is likely they were never married. The only clue to the name of Mr Morris comes from the 1910 marriage certificate of daughter Rose, which names her father as Charles Morris, Boatman ( deceased).
Emily married in 1910 in Northants to William Harry Stratfull. She calls herself a widow and married under the name Morris. She gives her father as James Walker, Boatman (deceased) The family are at Buckby Wharf, Northants in the 1911 census. William Harry and Emily have surname Stratfull ( married one year) There are four Morris children living with them - Lilian Mary (Lily) and Blanche Elizabeth ( the baby from 1901) plus Ethel born 1903 and Leonard born 1905. The latter two children are also recorded as surname Morris mmn Walker.
So to summarise, Emily Walker appears to have had seven children
George Herbert Walker (father unknown)
Rose ( father Charles Morris)
Charles ( father probably Charles Morris)
Lilian Mary (Lily)( father probably Charles Morris)
Blanche Elizabeth ( father probably Charles Morris)
Ethel ( father probably Charles Morris)
Leonard ( father probably Charles Morris)
It appears unlikely that Emily was actually ever married to Charles Morris.
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Emily Ann Walker was born in 1863 in Brinklow. As far as I can see from census returns she was one of 12 children of James Walker and Mary Ann nee Gresley/Greasley. James Walker married Mary Ann Gresley on 16th December 1861 at Bordesley St Andrew, Warwickshire ( certificate viewable on Ancestry).He was age 32 and his occupation was Boatman ( although he appears as a Labourer on some of the census returns). His father was James Walker, a Tallow Maker. Mary Ann was 21, the daughter of Joseph Gresley, a Labourer.
Siblings of Emily were -
James born 1860 with surname Greasley ( pre marriage)
Emily Ann born 1863
Alice born 1864
George born 1866 died 1870
Lizzy born 1868 ( seems also to have been known as Lucy and Elizabeth)
Sarah Ann born 1870
Frederick born 1871 died 1872
Annie 1872
Edward 1874
Harry born 1875 died 1876
Beatrice Louisa 1876
Herbert 1878
James Walker was born about 1829 in Brinklow and Mary Ann Walker nee Gresley was born 1839/40 also in Brinklow.
Regarding your question about the possibility of Charles Morris being the father of George Herbert Walker. It is possible, but unfortunately I’m not sure how you would prove this conclusively as there is no father’s name on his birth or baptism.
Hi can you please help me as I think I might be on the wrong track. Yesterday I did a page called may Martha walker I was told I did the wrong birth year for James walker who married Mary Ann Gresley I was trying to find out information about James walker mother who I thought was May Martha walker I really could do with some help thank you.
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Is this the new thread you started yesterday?
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=815165.msg6763569#msg6763569
Rather than ask the same question here, it might be best to ask that question on the thread you started yesterday. That is where you were told that your dates are wrong.
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I was just did if can find any photos of George Herbert walker he's wife Ada byfiled he's mum Emily walker her father James walker.
They are my family and I have no photos of them on there boats traveling up and down from Birmingham to Brentford
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Hi again, I see you are back on, you were not aware of a birth of a Wilfred Hambridge b 24th January 1920 mmn Thompson, he died b 24th January 1920, in Kensington 1974, he married a Lilian May Endean b 3rd May 1917 in St Austell 1945 and on at least 2 Electoral registers he is with:-
Evelyn T Hambridge
Lilian M Hambridge
Sarah Hambridge
Wilfred Hambridge
William Hambridge
At 29, Boston Park Road in 1947/1948 Brentford.
Did Evelyn die as a Spinster?
Keyboard86
PS Joseph Samuel Hambridge was buried 27th July 1992 aged 77, along with a Hannah 31st January 2001 aged 84 and Leonard Geo: Hambridge 20th June 1944 aged 3 months
At Ealing & Old Brentford Cemetery
hi Joseph Samuel hambridge and hannah was my grandad parents
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hi all im pretty sure it was down on here but i cant find what im looking for.
because you see my great grandad william hambridge was married to a sarah ann thompson she was born 1883 wilnebwarwickshire and she died october 1947 uk she and willim married in april 1910.
but anyway i cant seem to find sarah ann thompson birth father and mother so please help thanks
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It looks like the info might be found in this thread....
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=813934.msg6748081#msg6748081
PB