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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Derbyshire => Topic started by: dbingham191 on Monday 18 July 11 15:10 BST (UK)
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Hi all need big help on this one please my husband was in a Orphanages we found some records of his family.What in looking for is any information so we can start on his family tree please.
Herbert Bingham he married Emma Ashmore live in Chesterfield, Derbyshire, England
The children are
Frederick Bingham
John Bingham
Herbert Roy Bingham
Jessice Bingham
Thomas H Bingham
Alice Bingham
Eric Bingham
Sheila Bingham we no this one was my husband mother and she pass away 2002
Dennis Bingham
Margret Bingham
Sylvia Bingham
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Need some more info - ages approx of Herbert and wife.
Herbert Bingham born c. 1858
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1921
Death at 63
Registration district: ChesterfieldDerbyshire
Volume: 7b
Page: 650
but seems a bit early if his daughter died in 2002?
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Hi
poss marriage Herbert Bingham =m= emma Ashmore 4th qtr 1909 chesterfield vol 7b page 1465
cheers cardiff ???
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Marriages Dec 1909
ASHMORE Emma Chesterfield 7b 1465
BINGHAM Herbert Chesterfield 7b 1465
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Frederick Bingham
Birth 19 Aug 1904
Date of death Apr 1991
Aged 86
Registration district: Chesterfield
Inferred County: Derbyshire
Volume: 6
Page: 252
Can find various possibles for the others.
We need to know the age of Shiela when she died.
Added later - we can ignore this one, see later posts.
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Hi
posss census info
1901 Rg13 3250/132/38
15 Arundel rd newbold and Dunston derbyshire
BINGHAM
William b 1855 haleston Notts
Alice b 1864 staffordshire not known
Richard b 1885 pony driver underground
William b 1887 road epairer underground
Herbert Bingham b 1890 whittington Derbyshire
francis b1892
albert 1894
george 1896
robert 1899
all siblings born as Herbert
cheers cardiff ???
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Freebmd
Eliza Emma Ashmore
Apr-May-Jun 1891
Chesterfield
Derbyshire
7b Page 735
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Sheila Bingham
Mother Ashmore Jul-Aug-Sep 1928
Registration district: Chesterfield: Nottinghamshire, Derbyshire
Volume Number: 7b
Is this correct?
If so, next child down is:
Eric Bingham
Mother Ashmore
Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1926
Chesterfield
Inferred County: Derbyshire
Volume Number: 7b
Then Alice b. June Qtr 23
Then Thomas H b. Sept Qtr 20
Then Jessie b. Jun Qt 19
Then Herbert b. Jun Qt 17
Several possible Johns
Then Frederick E Bingham Jan Qt 13
All above Chesterfield, Mother Ashmore. Vol 7b
There is also an Alfred, not on your list, born 1911, Vol 7b, as before, which would bring you back to that 1909 marriage.
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It looks like John was an Ashmore -born shortly before marriage-his birth reg Sept qtr 1909 Chesterfield??
Suz
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Yes, I think that is the most likely one, but its all speculation till we tie in Sheila to this sequence of births. I may just have been giving info known already, or on a wrong track altogether - though I think the births and marriage do stack up. Didn't do the younger children in case any are still living. PM
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yep ..with Herbert Bingham and John ashmore aged 1 residing at the same address circa 1911 :)
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Interesting!
Where is that info from?
PM
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Sent you Pm Pm:)
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The other two contenders for John are:
John A Bingham - out of the immediate area, though.
Mother Ashmore Jan-Feb-Mar 1915
Registration district: Doncaste Lincolnshire, Nottinghamshire, Yorkshire - West Riding
Volume: 9c
John Henry Bingham Jun QT 1915 No Mother given but same vol as all the others
Chesterfield Derbyshire
Volume: 7b
The plus for these two are that the mantain the sequence, but john Ashmore living with Herbert Bingham is very plausible! I just looked at the three last children on the list, and they are all there, following in sequence.
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Hi all sorry for not getting back to yous we been given some more info today that mite help .The paper work was dark and what we could work out the date's hope this help .Cheer Deb
Herbert Bingham birth 1888 he married 1909 Emma Ashmore birth 1885 live in Chesterfield, Derbyshire, England
The children are
Frederick Bingham 1913
John Bingham 1915
Herbert Roy Bingham 1917
Jessice Bingham 1919
Thomas H Bingham 1920
Alice Bingham 1923
Eric Bingham 1926
Sheila Bingham 1928 we no this one was my husband mother and she pass away 2002
Dennis Bingham 1931
Margret Bingham 1933
Sylvia Bingham 1940
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Sylvia Bingham in 1940? that would make Emma 55 when she had her !!! not impossible though.
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From freebmd..and you have John Ashmore born c1909
Births Dec 1911
Bingham Alfred Ashmore Chesterfield 7b 1481
Births Mar 1913
Bingham Frederick E Ashmore Chesterfield 7b 1540
Births Jun 1915
BINGHAM George W Ashmore Chesterfield 7b 1573 ---Where you have John
Births Jun 1917
Bingham Herbert Ashmore Chesterfield 7b 1301
Births Jun 1919
Bingham Jessie Ashmore Chesterfield 7b 1087
Births Sep 1920
BINGHAM Thomas H Ashmore Chesterfield 7b 1643
Births Jun 1923
Bingham Alice Ashmore Chesterfield 7b 1362
Births Mar 1926
Bingham Eric Ashmore Chesterfield 7b 1323
Births Dec 1926
Bingham Doris Ashmore Chesterfield 7b 1113
Births Sep 1928
Bingham Sheila Ashmore Chesterfield 7b 1278
Births Jun 1931
Bingham Dennis Ashmore Chesterfield 7b 1270
Births Jun 1933
BINGHAM Margaret Ashmore Chesterfield 7b 1191
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There is an exact Free BMD for Sylvia in 1940. It does seem quite odd that she was born so late, with a seven year gap, but not impossible!
Emma in 1891 is problematic. There are several. This is best on age and location, but by no means certain,
Emma Ashmore
Age: 7 b. abt 1884
Father: George E Ashmore Iron Moulder
Mother Mary A Ashmore
Birthplace: Brimington, Derbyshire, England in the church parish of st. Michaeal, Reg dist Chesterfield.
Piece: 2764 FO: 68 PG 28
Folio: 68
Page Number: 28
People in house:
George E Ashmore 43
Mary A Ashmore 36
Ishmael Ashmore 15
Elizabeth Ashmore 13
Frances Ashmore 11
Emma Ashmore 7
Eliza Ashmore 4
Janet Ashmore 2 (All Children of George and Mary A.)
If you got the marriage cert for 1909 of Emma and Herbert, then it would be quite easy to bring Emma back another generation.
There are some possible deaths for some of the children.
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A big thank you Pastmagic and woody32 and cardiff for your time ;D.Cheer Deb
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No problem Deb.
Just noticed this tree:
http://trees.ancestry.co.uk/tree/9421347/person/-781702949
for the possible Emma given in my last post.
Until you get the marriage cert giving her father, you can't be sure these are your relatives, but it might be worth an email just in case it pans out. i am always wary of how these trees get generated when there are no citations.
PM
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Circa 1911...Emma Eliza Bingham her age is 20 and Herberts 23.
so this birth is looking favourite for Emma.
Freebmd
Eliza Emma Ashmore
Apr-May-Jun 1891
Chesterfield
Derbyshire
7b Page 735
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I think there may have been more than one Bingham family mother's maiden name Ashmore registering children in Chesterfield dist - as there is a female birth reg Dec qtr 1926 and a male birth reg Mar qtr 1926
So are you certain the children you listed all from the same family??
Suz
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On family search..baptism/christening is 4 years after the Birth of the one i posted but not unusual.
Eliza Emma Ashmore
Baptism/Christening Date- 20 Nov 1895
Ault Hucknall, Derbyshire, England (8 Miles from Chesterfield.)
Father's Name- John Ashmore
Mother's Name- Hannah Ashmore
Edit...maybe not the right one ..Just seen a marriage for a John and Hannah in 1894 on freebmd.
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Hi
I have only just found your email on this forum. My husband is your husbands cousin. Please get in touch, we still live where Shiela lived and I am constantly trying to obtain family history for his family. We are in touch with all cousins that live locally.
I do hope this finds it's way to you.
Kind Regards
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Hi ABingKilli my name Deb. Shiela is my husband mother.We live in Australia so i hope we can help each other.Cheer Deb
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Hi
I have only just found your email on this forum. My husband is your husbands cousin. Please get in touch, we still live where Shiela lived and I am constantly trying to obtain family history for his family. We are in touch with all cousins that live locally.
I do hope this finds it's way to you.
Kind Regards
Hi ABingKilli my Deb .Shiels is my husband mother. We live in Australia so I hope we can help each other.Cheer Deb
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Hi Deb
So good to hear from you, my name is Anne.
I have tried searching on other social media sites for your husband trying to grasp anything but have had no luck until now. I can't wait to tell my husband and his brother. Have you a family tree online? I have traced the Bingham / Ashmore's back a fair way but need to obtain more certificates.
I understand Sheila is buried in our church yard, I only found this out a few weeks ago as of yet I have not had chance to visit (been a bit housebound due to a flu virus.
I would love to chat some more, Jeffery's cousins think of him and wonder how his life worked out. We did have info that a few years ago his mum had visited.
It seems a bit open on here to be chatting about peoples personal life.
Great to hear from you and would love to chat more
Regards
Anne
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Hi now you have made 3 posts you can use the PM button to send s message directly ;)
Frank
Added, click on Deb's forum name and on the profile page the link is there to Pm her.
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Hi My name is Kath hutchinson and my late husband was robert Hutchinson is birth name was Peter bingham and was born 25 August 1950 and is birth mother was Sheila Robert ,Bob that's what we called him was adopted as a baby .I have just found out that he was Jeff bother . From Ann Bingham ,we were told Bob had a older brother but was not sure.Bob died in 2018 but he all ways said he would have liked to have meet is brother . Kath