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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Aberdeenshire => Topic started by: orkboyz on Monday 02 May 05 11:49 BST (UK)
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Hoping to make more connections.
I have CRAN Auchterless and Fyvie.
I have WATT Inverurie, Kemnay and others.
GOLDSMAN also features in the line.
Specifically Goldsman Cran/Sarah Watt my 2g/grandparents
Goldsman b. Jan 07,1872 Millbrex, Fyvie
Sarah b. Mar 30,1878 Brownhill, Kemnay
They married Aug 04,1899 Kemnay
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do these extracts from 1881 census help?
Dwelling: Brownhill
Census Place: Kemnay, Aberdeen, Scotland
Source: FHL Film 0203458 GRO Ref Volume 207 EnumDist 4 Page 6
Marr Age Sex Birthplace
William WATT M 40 M Keithhall, Aberdeen, Scotland
Rel: Head
Occ: Crofter
Mary Ann WATT M 38 F Inverurie, Aberdeen, Scotland
Rel: Wife
Occ: Wife
George WATT U 16 M Inverurie, Aberdeen, Scotland
Rel: Son
Occ: Quarry Worker
Maggie WATT 12 F Inverurie, Aberdeen, Scotland
Rel: Dau
Occ: Scholar
James WATT 11 M Inverurie, Aberdeen, Scotland
Rel: Son
Occ: Scholar
Isabella WATT 10 F Kemnay, Aberdeen, Scotland
Rel: Dau
Occ: Scholar
Susan A. WATT 9 F Kemnay, Aberdeen, Scotland
Rel: Dau
Occ: Scholar
Williamina WATT 7 F Kemnay, Aberdeen, Scotland
Rel: Dau
Occ: Scholar
William WATT 6 M Kemnay, Aberdeen, Scotland
Rel: Son
Occ: Scholar
Mary J. WATT 5 F Kemnay, Aberdeen, Scotland
Rel: Dau
Elizabeth WATT 4 F Kemnay, Aberdeen, Scotland
Rel: Dau
Sarah WATT 3 F Kemnay, Aberdeen, Scotland
Rel: Dau
Barbara WATT 2 F Kemnay, Aberdeen, Scotland
Rel: Dau
Dwelling: Woodhead
Census Place: Fyvie, Aberdeen, Scotland
Source: FHL Film 0203456 GRO Ref Volume 197 EnumDist 9 Page 17
Marr Age Sex Birthplace
Robert CRAN M 43 M Fyvie, Aberdeen, Scotland
Rel: Head
Occ: Boot & Shoe Maker Employing One Man
Elsie CRAN M 43 F Auchterless, Aberdeen, Scotland
Rel: Wife
Occ: Shoemk Wife
Golderman CRAN 9 M Fyvie, Aberdeen, Scotland
Rel: Son
Occ: Scholar
George H. CRAN 6 M Canada
Rel: Son
Occ: Scholar
kind regards,
Lorna.
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Lorna,
Many thanks, but I do have those details. They are my line. It was Sarah Watt (3 at the census) who married Golderman - actually Goldsman - Cran (9 at the census).
I obtained a huge amount of data on the Watt side by stumbling across a 'distant cousin' in NZ. However the Cran side is proving a 'tough nut'. One of the oddest points is re George H. Cran being born in Canada. Another mountain to climb I suppose!!! :(
I am on a number of Rootsweb mailing lists, but, so far, without too much luck. I had hoped to flush out another 'rellie' following the same line
Thanks again,
David Thomson
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My great grandmother Margaret Watt married Kenneth Sutherland.They lived at Hill of Corskie. Kemnay .Mygrandmother Helen Christina Sutherland born 1870,she married George Malcolm of Craigearm1895.My father George Malcolm born 1895 came to Australia around 1920
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Hi,
I am searching for family of David Watt(s).
The only thing I know so far is he came from Scotland, no record of parents. He went to Isle of Man and married Jane Qualtrough on October 20, 1808 at Rushen.
Regards,
Tim
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hi monique,
not sure if you have 1881 census info, but here it is along with a couple of other things...
Dwelling: Hill Of Corskie
Census Place: Cluny, Aberdeen, Scotland
Source: FHL Film 0203453 GRO Ref Volume 181 EnumDist 4 Page 3
Marr Age Sex Birthplace
Kenneth SUTHERLAND M 55 M Latheron, Caithness, Scotland
Rel: Head
Occ: Farmer 9 Acres Arable
Margaret SUTHERLAND M 53 F Monymusk, Aberdeen, Scotland
Rel: Wife
Occ: Farmers Wife
Kenneth SUTHERLAND U 20 M Monymusk, Aberdeen, Scotland
Rel: Son
Occ: Square Wright
William SUTHERLAND U 18 M Skene, Aberdeen, Scotland
Rel: Son
Occ: General Lab.
Helen SUTHERLAND 10 F Cluny, Aberdeen, Scotland
Rel: Daur
Occ: Scholar
Mary Ann SMITH 3 F Cluny, Aberdeen, Scotland
Rel: Boarder
KENNETH SUTHERLAND
Spouse: MARGARET WATT
Marriage: 11 FEB 1860 Monymusk, Aberdeen, Scotland
KENNETH SUTHERLAND
Male
Birth: 16 JUN 1860 Monymusk, Aberdeen, Scotland
Father: KENNETH SUTHERLAND
Mother: MARGARET WATT
WILLIAM SUTHERLAND
Male
Birth: 10 SEP 1862 Skene, Aberdeen, Scotland
Father: KENNETH SUTHERLAND
Mother: MARGARET WATT
ELIZABETH SUTHERLAND
Female
Birth: 30 NOV 1864 Cluny, Aberdeen, Scotland
Father: KENNETH SUTHERLAND
Mother: MARGARET WATT
HELEN CHRISTINA SUTHERLAND
Female
Birth: 12 OCT 1870 Cluny, Aberdeen, Scotland
Father: KENNETH SUTHERLAND
Mother: MARGARET WATT
Sp have one match (death records) for margaret sutherland other surnames watt in cluny, aberdeen in 1911 aged 83 years.
i didnt look at the actual cert, so cant be sure it is the correct one. although age almost fits with age at 1881 census and area where they were living at time of 1881 census also matches...
if it is the correct one, it would give you her both her parents names and also her mothers maiden surname if known by person registering her death.
there is also 1 other match (death records) for margaret sutherland other surnames watt in aberdeen, but i didnt look for district because she died in 1953 aged 81 which would make her born c1872 snd obviously isnt the correct one.
i hope this helps a little.
kind regards,
Lorna.
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Hi Lorna
Thank you Helen Christina Sutherland is my Granmother are you related to the Kemnay Watt family ? Are the Kemnay Watt family related to the Balliter Watt family.My Husband has relatives in Melbourne Victoria Australia who are related to the Balliter Watt family.
hope to hear from you.
thanks Monique
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Hi Monique,
sorry, but i'm not related to the Watt family as far as i know. - just happy to try and help out with 1881 census for people who dont have access.
kind regards,
Lorna.
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Hi Lorna Thanks for your interest Have you any sugestions where I can find out futher information? Monique.
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Hi Monique,
have you got Margaret Watt/Sutherland's death cert? - if you had that it would give you both of her parents names if known. you could also find out if she was a widow or still married, which would narrow down the search for her husbands death cert, which would then give you both of his parents names. - using this info, you should be able to find at least margaret with her parents in the 1841 census at the freecen website: http://freecen.rootsweb.com/cgi/search.pl .
alternatively, you could view their marriage cert. - as it was after 1855, it would have both sets of parents names and whether they were still alive or not. - if yes, being after 1855, you would be able to get their parents death certs too from scotland people and obtain their parents names if known by the person registering the death. therefore you would find a further 2 generations....
i hope this makes sense - it is after midnight here and i'm beginning to confuse myself! ;D
kind regards,
Lorna.
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Hi Lorna I dont have my great granmothers certificates . How can I get them.Would the Balletar Watt be related to the Kemnay Watt .I am related to the Malcolm of Kemnay.I have been in queensland.bye now Monique
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hello monique,
the easiest way to find your great grandmothers marriage and death certificates is to use the scotlandspeople website. it is pay to view and costs £6 for 30 page credits, but as you have some of the info you need to find them already, you should have enough credits left over to search for other certificates too.
e.g if you enter the search criteria for their marriage (shown below) and view the results, this will cost 1 credit and then if you open the certificate to view the details, this will cost 5 credits. you can then . image and also print it if you want to. if you do this, it has cost a total of 6 credits from your 30 that you paid for.
KENNETH SUTHERLAND
Spouse: MARGARET WATT
Marriage: 11 FEB 1860 Monymusk, Aberdeen, Scotland
also i mentioned in an earlier posting that the scotlandspeople website also have a possible match for margaret's death certificate:
Scotlandspeople have one match (death records) for margaret sutherland other surnames watt in cluny, aberdeen in 1911 aged 83 years.
i didnt look at the actual cert, so cant be sure it is the correct one. although age almost fits with age at 1881 census and area where they were living at time of 1881 census also matches...
if it is the correct one, it would give you her both her parents names and also her mothers maiden surname if known by person registering her death.
there is also 1 other match (death records) for margaret sutherland other surnames watt in aberdeen, but i didnt look for district because she died in 1953 aged 81 which would make her born c1872 snd obviously isnt the correct one.
again if you use the details for the one in 1911 aged 83 years, it should only cost you another 6 credits and hopefully have a lot more information to work with.
all this should only cost 12 credits in total out of your 30, leaving you a further 18 credits to do other searches.
i hope this helps you a little.
kind regards,
Lorna.
p.s sorry, i don't know if the Ballater and Kemnay Watts are connected and don't know how you could find out.
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Lorna,
Many thanks, but I do have those details. They are my line. It was Sarah Watt (3 at the census) who married Golderman - actually Goldsman - Cran (9 at the census).
I obtained a huge amount of data on the Watt side by stumbling across a 'distant cousin' in NZ. However the Cran side is proving a 'tough nut'. One of the oddest points is re George H. Cran being born in Canada. Another mountain to climb I suppose!!! :(
I am on a number of Rootsweb mailing lists, but, so far, without too much luck. I had hoped to flush out another 'rellie' following the same line
Thanks again,
David Thomson
Hi there,
Whilst searching family tree I came across this post. George Herbert Cran is my Great Grandfather. He was born in Canada but his parents returned to Scotland when George was still a child. He married Isabella Whyte from Fraserburgh and they had 10 children. Happy to give you more information if need be, just get in touch.
Thanks.
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Hi, Lorismith4. I see the last time orkboyz was active on Rootschat was on 21st May 2005. However, a notification of your post will have gone to his e-mail if it is still working.