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Research in Other Countries => Canada => Topic started by: KarenM on Tuesday 02 August 11 21:47 BST (UK)
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Hi everyone,
In case anyone has not seen or heard, the Ontario Government has passed a bill declaring September 28 British Home Child Day.
http://www.ontla.on.ca/web/bills/bills_detail.do?locale=en&Intranet&BillID=2489
For those in Ontario, make sure to check your area to see if events are planned.
Karen
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http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,557085.0.html
This is a thank-you for you KarenM - for ensuring we don't forget. I hope others post some great stories.
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Thanks Red! I recently had an interview done with our local newspaper, just trying to get the stories out.
Karen
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Here's a link to the newspaper article....
http://www.innisfilscope.com/news/2011-09-28/News/KIDS_Up_to_70000_children_settled_in_Ontario.html
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TX for sharing that story KarenM.
I can't imagine what a frightening turn in a young person's life it would have been one of the home children.
TX for keeping the memory alive.
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Here's a link to a story about the day in Peterborough where they dedicated the new Monument with the childrens names on it that came to Hazelbrae Home there.
http://www.thepeterboroughexaminer.com/ArticleDisplay.aspx?e=3316009
Karen
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That is fabulous, isn't it, that there is something to keep the memory alive andmaybe point out the actual history to those who may not know it. Perhaps the next step might be to post all the same names online for those searching, as they're obviously all listed now....
So little transparency for the poor descendants who want and need to know more...
argh, Karen that newspaper article is no longer up there!!!
ahhh, found it here now:
http://www.innisfilscope.com/news/2011-09-28/Front_Page/KIDS_Up_to_70000_children_settled_in_Ontario.html
Oh, and here you are, fo some reason posted elsewhere
http://www.innisfilscope.com/news/2011-09-28/Front_Page/SOFT_SPOT_FOR_BRITISH_HOME_CHILDREN_.html
awe ...and bonus I found your own wee one... ;D wow!
http://www.innisfilscope.com/news/2010-12-15/Sports_%28and%29_Leisure/Irish_dancer_skips_to_her_own_beat.html
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I've only just found out about home children ..
my great uncles i believe were emigrated to canada ...so new to this and am trying to track them down .....any ideas!
the younger one joined the Canadian Infantry Manitoba regiment 8th Bn and died during WW! in France,Frederick Barnes born 1894...his brother was Ernest Henry Barnes 1889 ..both born in england
any ideas greatfully received
emm
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Yes we have a few threads on them KarenM and I found a great deal for Jake on Ernest..Not sure if we followed through on much for Frederick or perhaps a Sidney?
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,142337.0.html
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,191330.0.html
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,185141.0.html
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,340247.0.html
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,185143.msg902189.html#msg902189
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,11595.0.html
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wow
that was quick many thanks...i've had a quick look...so much to take in ..looks like loads of info
I was on the birmingham forum a couple of years ago and i saw jake posting...i followed his posts for a while because so much in them seemed familiar....and right....eventualy I summed up the courage to send him a message...asking if he was my long lost cousin.....I never had a reply.
I found another cousin earlier this year and he told me jake had passed away weeks before I sent the message.....i was really upset..i felt as though i had got to know him and i had so many questions to ask him....
I could see he was getting lots of help ...but obviously never saw any of the actual research.....
thank you so much for your help
emm
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Oh, no, how sad.... :-\ He surely enjoyed the hunt on here. Karen & I and so many others on here have an extra soft spot for these wee ones. Look through Jakes threads, and answer on a couple of them for now, ( maybe the main one in Canada and the main one in the U.K. as we may find more now that more info is made available online. That way you will get notified should anyone find more...
all the best, J.J.
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Emmm if you want to find Jake's other entries, just go to search above and enter his username and the surname. He made many duplicate entries for the same searches...try not to do that if you make threads on here, as it causes a lot of confusion and duplication of resources as you'll see when you read through...
and welcome to rootschat by the way...
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thanks
will be looking at his posts here and back in the uk hopefully get more answers
emm
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Hi Emm,
I'm so sorry to hear that Jake has passed away :(
I was able to go to Ernest's grave in Miami, Manitoba. I have a picture. I know Ernest had a wife and child, but never found where the went.
I also have Frederick's WW1 records if you are interested.
Karen
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yes please
I know he joined the canadian infantry in 1915
and died from his wounds in France 1918
Having seen when Ernest died(before him)..this explains why my father had his medal and infantry pin....I assume they were sent back to England to his older brother...my grandfather (never knew him)
Any information which helps me to build up a picture of them would be fantastic...
Max
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I know that in his records was a will, let me go and get them.
Karen
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it appears you have a wealth of information re ernest...
thanks for all you help
emm
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hi all
not sure whether this is where i should post this but...if its wrong please tell mee..
I have been trying to go though jakes old posts to try and find Fredericks army records or will...but not having much success...any ideas please
thank Emm
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My Great Grandfather was a British Home Child, I am glad that the events have come to light and people are starting to understand the hardship that they had endured. When will Canada adopt this day as well instead of just Ontario?
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The year was 1909 and their mother had passed away in 1908 and their father couldn't work and take care of them.
Sydney 13, Victor 11, Hilda 10 and Harold 8 were sent to Middlemore Home and came to Halifax.
Victor and Harold had their name changed but they still knew who their parents were.
Victor was my father and he made his way to Northwestern Ontario where he met and married my mother.
Now I appreciate what he must have felt like.
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For those wanting to know more about the home children, CBC radio had a show on November 18, 2011 at 1PM. I can't figure out how to attach the link directly to the recording, but when I went to this page, I searched for Home Children and it brough up the link to the full show.
http://www.cbc.ca/livingoutloud/
"The home children". Former home children tell their stories. From 1870 to the 1950's about 100-thousand children were sent to Canada from Britain, taken from city slums to a country that needed cheap labour. Some were welcomed into loving homes, but many were put to work in harsh conditions as indentured farm labourers and domestic servants. There were suicides and suspicious deaths, but the vast majority of the home children survived and went on to have families of their own and today their descendants make up an amazing 11-percent of the Canadian population.
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Does there exist one central spot to search for names of Home Children? I have a hunch that some in my tree might have come to Canada that way, have searched several partial lists without success, don't know how many other lists might have been overlooked. The surname would be Clazie but could also be spelled Clazey, Clazy, Clasey, Clasie, Clezie and Clezy.
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You could try" R & M Crawford" <mcrawfd[at][/blue]nbnet.nb.ca> (Replace [at] with @) she can help you search the records but will need as much information as you can provide.
example:
age of person, what year they may have been sent to Canada, a name of a ship, the year they came, name and gender of person.
You can also give an estimate of names and age.
You could also submit a request to www.middlemoreatlanticsociety.com
good luck
Connie
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Thank you but we do not have that information. We don’t know the names of individuals, arrival dates, ships they were on, etc. If we had such details, there would be no need for a search. It is precisely because we don't know the information, we would like to search a list: to find names that we recognize as "ours". Catch-22.
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http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/genealogy/022-908.009-e.html
You might try this link. It's for Library & Archives Canada. The names of Home Children are included on passenger lists; however, the lists prior to 1925 contain few details about the children other than name, age, sending agency and destination.
Members of the British Isles Family History Society of Greater Ottawa (BIFHSGO) [www.bifhsgo.ca/index.htm] are working on indexing the names of juvenile migrants found in the Home Children passenger lists.
Good luck
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Collections Canada has been recently added already scanned files to the cef collections as a "digitized file"
in PDF form. You need to check off the box for digitized file. I imagine noses will be out of joint for those
who had to pay for the original files to be scanned.... s...However, it will be an awesome resource for those who find it there for free...
here is the digitised file for Frederick Barnes
http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/cef/1-1000/446-21.pdf
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Hi
Many thanks for the link to Frederick Barnes .....went on....so much information....it was really interesting.....I just wish it was my Frederick
.....unfortunately it was for Frederick William barnes....still interesting reading....did however go on the web site to see if they had Frederick barnes (1894). But they haven't digitised his record yet , look forward to it being released soon.
Thanks for your help
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Sorry I didn't have time to go through all the information to see the proper one, but there were 2 in Manitoba, then? Ah, well, I tried...It is hard when researched so long ago, not my family, and so very many threads to go through...J.J.
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many thanks anyway
its so good to know that there is some one out there to help us
If i could contribute to someones family i would...just ask
thanks again
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Just a reminder that tommorrow, September 28, 2012 is British Home Child day in Ontario.
Karen
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Another year has passed and tomorrow, September 28, 2013 is British Home Child Day in Ontario.
Karen
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this is my great uncle. the whole story is heart breaking....
http://canadianbritishhomechildren.weebly.com/arthur-mcgregor-godsall.html
glad this is being made more of and the child are being remembered...
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Thanks Karen,
I believe my Great Grandfather was one. Are there records other than ship passenger lists where I might find out where in England he came from or where in Canada he was placed?
Charles Stanley arrived 1891 on the Sarnia with his brother Henry, from Liverpool bound for Belleville, Ontario (though I don't think the Marchmont home).
I should add, Charles Stanley is actually is just the name on my Grandmother's birth cert. I know nothing about him except his name and that he didn't stick around as Grandma was adopted.
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Google British Home Children. You will find Perry Snow from Calgary who has complied a database for British Home Children. He will do a free search for you and if he finds the child he will put you in touch with people who will be able to help. S.
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This Sunday, September 28, 2014 is British Home Child Day!
I am co-hosting an event at Black Creek Pioneer Village this Sunday. It's going to be a great day!
Here is a link to information on the event.
http://www.blackcreek.ca/v2/events/british-home-child-day.dot
Karen
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Hi everyone,
In case anyone has not seen or heard, the Ontario Government has passed a bill declaring September 28 British Home Child Day.
http://www.ontla.on.ca/web/bills/bills_detail.do?locale=en&Intranet&BillID= In 2015, a special event will be held in collaboration with the British Home Child Group International (britishhomechildgroupinternational.com) and Fanshawe Pioneer Village as part of Doors Open London. Lots of events planned for both September 26 and September 27. Come one day or both.
FREE admission to the Village and FREE parking!
Karen