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Research in Other Countries => New Zealand => New Zealand Completed Requests => Topic started by: TwiggyTree on Thursday 04 August 11 02:20 BST (UK)
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Am planning to dash off to the cemetery whilst in Rotorua tomorrow (Friday).
Does anyone need a photograph or MI look-up?
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Oooh - Mr Lechner if you happen to see him!
John William Theodore Lechner, or any combination or order of those names, or Johannes Wilhelm Theodore Lechner. It's an old burial. Not sure if there would be a stone.
I'll just go hunting and see if I can find a record ...
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Hmmmmm - never mind. Can't find him in their online records.
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taonga1, did you have a note that Herr Lechner was buried there? I can always ask the sexton if they are on site.
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I thought I recalled from the family history book that he was at Rotorua Cemetery. He died in 1886, so burial records may be incomplete.
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Ok, will see what I can do.
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*** Rotorua Cemetery database is indeed INCOMPLETE. There are members of the departed community who are not in it. ***
taonga1, I have the burial register entry for Herr Lechner, if you'd like to PM me your email. The sexton (private contractor) did not know exactly where he was buried but will look into it further on Monday for us. He offered to take a photo with his cellphone and send it - sorry that was the best I could do as I wasn't going to be there Monday. Herr Lechner was one of the people exhumed from the former cemetery at the top of Sala St, Rotorua and moved to the current site (further along the road). As a result it appears that the entry in the register does not directly match the references in the current cemetery.
Leandra, have sent you a PM with a photo of your folks.
Sidenote: the gentleman that I went to visit, does not even have a headstone or anything but green grass, so his grave couldn't speak to me and tell me his story.
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The gentleman that I went to visit, does not even have a headstone or anything but green grass, so his grave couldn't speak to me and tell me his story
Hello TwiggyTree...
I think the fact that you are remembering the person is what's important.
I for one would be quite chuffed if in fifty or a hundred years from now someone took time out of their life to find out about my (frankly) pretty ordinary life.
Moreso if they took time to visit my gravesite.
Regards
Beg
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Thank you so much Twiggy. I'll PM you my email now. My Dad was the Vicar of Rotorua many many moons ago, so he's traipsed around that cemetery a fair few times.
Unmarked graves feel a bit strange when it's someone who belongs to you. We have three unmarked in our wider family and have thought about whether we should invest in something tangible for future genealogists to be able to see.
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I have typed up page 3 and 4 of the Burial register that lists a few extra members of the Rotorua Cemetery community from 1885 and 1886, and would like to add it to this thread if that's okay with spades.
Would someone care to check what I have transcribed first? If so, PM me your email.
taonga1, I have also followed up via email with the sexton to see if he has located Herr Lechner yet. Will keep you posted.
And yes, discovering an unmarked grave does put one in an interesting position, especially where there are no direct descendants known to you (yet).
Beg, thanks for your encouragement. :)
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Hi TwiggyTree,
Yes, It's ok with me as long as the information isn't under copyright.
Spades
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That was my concern. Everything else has been entered into their database and there is nothing on their website, here: http://www.rootschat.com/links/0elr/ , or here http://www.rootschat.com/links/0els/ except the statement that they will be adding to the records in the coming months (whenever that was put up).
So I am fairly content that posting the information on the 2 pages that I managed to photograph is in line with their intentions and therefore doesn't breach copyright.
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spades checked with the Copyright Editor here and I have the go ahead to post the information that I transcribed from the two pages that were photographed from the Rotorua burial register.
Unfortunately no one came forward to proof the transcription, so there may be some unintentional errors.
I am going to try and attach it as a png, but list the names here for search engines:
Isaac Richardson VIALON
- McKENZIE
Charles Frederick LEE
Jane SEDDON
Alberta Josephine CLARKE
Margaret McINTYRE
Daniel Jones HAMER
Theodore LECHNER
Edwin A BAINBRIDGE
HASZARD, Charles Albert
HASZARD, Adolphus Charles Edward
HASZARD, Edna Winifred
HASZARD, Mona Vera
HASZARD, Charles Sutherland
PUHOTO
ARAPERA MEHAKA
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I found the Tarawera eruption fatalities interesting from an historic perspective, and have found a few newspaper articles about BAINBRIDGE and the HA(S)ZARD family. I am left wondering what happened to Ina HASZARD.
General
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0f17/
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0f18/
Bainbridge
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0f13/
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0f14/
Ha(s)zard
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0f15/
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0f16/
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Ina Haszard went on to marry:
1899/4581 Ina Jane Harzard Arthur Edward Hobbs
and tell her story about the eruption
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0f1a/
Had at least one daughter; and was a painter. She also wrote a book.
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0f1b/
Apparently Mrs Haszard and another daughter also survived.
Here is a list of some survivors and fatalities:
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0f1c/
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Unfortunately the sexton hasn't come back to me, despite follow-up emails, with regards to the plot where Herr Lechner is buried. Sorry taonga1. Will close the thread and if I get a reply will PM you directly.
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William Johannes Theodore Lechner was the first editor of the Hot Lakes Chronicle. He died a pauper in 1886 and his friends took up a collection to mark his grave with a headstone. The person taking up the collection purchased a white wooden cross that was over the grave of a tourist, Mr Bainbridge, who died in the Tarawera eruption, and I understand had not accounted for the rest of the money by 1888. William Theodore had worked on the Bruce Herald for two years. Ref. Bruce Herald, 23.3. 1888 -Mr T. Lechner. He was my gt,gt grandfather.
geraldine77
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Theodore Lechner was buried in the old cemetery. A collection was taken up for a headstone but the ones responsible eventually purchased a wooden cross erected over a Mr Bainbridge -the only English tourist buried after the Tarawea eruption.I guess they thought his family would never find out. This cross had been standing there for eighteen months when they bought it. They hadn''t accounted for the money remaining two years later. See Bruce Herald 23.3.1888 Papers Past.
I am a gt gt granddaughter, at present trying to research his life for the family. Would love to contact other descendants. I have a copy of a history by Douglas Lechner
Maria 101