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Looking for death for Andrew Anderson Forbes born1884 Cluny Aberdeen settled in San Francisco 1909 . He was married first to Jennie ??? in the 1920 census , and Virginia in the 1930 census in San Francisco. His parent's were Agnes Ferguson and William T Forbes
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You might want to try checking the databases on http://www.sfgenealogy.com/sf/sfdata.htm
In the meantime, I found this:
1937 San Francisco city directory
Forbes, Andw A (Virginia) carpenter, home 6 Mateo
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Thanks that is Andrew he was a carpenter will check out the web address you gave me thanks again
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I can get a death for Andrew's wife Virginia nothing on Jennie and Andrew seems to have vanished help please ::)
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Have you tried to trace his children, to see where they lived (and died)? Have you found him on a census in 1910?
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Have you checked with the Cemetery to see if Virginia is buried with Andrew ?
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0ezt/
Shelly has found a City Directory entry for 1937 and there is a Naturalization for Andrew Anderson Forbes 29 July 1937.
The California Death Index starts in 1940 and he doesn'tt seem to be listed so perhaps died between 1937 and 1940.
Looks like soneone else is looking for info on Andrew - same person has tree on anc...
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0ezu/
Sandra
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Hi Lisa I have Andrew on the 1920 census Sanfrancisco Assembly District 29, with first wife Jennie born 1886 Idaho I dont think the children are Andrew's???. They are Clara born 1910 Iowa, Vivilie born 1909 Minnesota , In 1930 Census Andrew with Virginia San Francisco with children Donald A Forbes born California 1923 , adopted son (*) forbes born California 1926 ??very confusing ,I cant seem to find the previous family or the second one :-\ :-\
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1921 San Francisco city directory
Forbes, Andrew A. (Jennie) clerk, resides 1528 Hampshire
1922 San Francisco city directory
Forbes, Andrew A. (Virginia) lineman WU Tel. Co., resides 1528 Hampshire
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Thanks Shelly, it just gets more confusing with the different wifes think I will need to look for a death for Jennie but dont know her maiden name. Have tried looking for marriage but no luck so far
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I couldn't find Andrew in 1910. According to his 1918 WWI draft reg card, he and Jennie were living in Los Angeles. If he can be found on a census in 1910, it might provide additional clues.
I realize the descriptions for Jennie and Virginia don't match, but is there any chance Jennie is a nickname for Virginia and that her census information was given incorrectly for one of the census returns?
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Lisa I had the same problem I could not get Andrew in 1910 census either ,got him in border crossing in 1909 coming from Canada
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Found a listing for Andw. A forbes ( Virginia .M ) shipdwker .would that be the same as carpenter?? living 1837 Orange .San Diego. nothing after that . Cant find marriage record for Andrew or death help please
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I would think a carpenter could use his skills in building ships. What year was he in San Diego?
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Shelly he was in San Diego 1943 I thought it would be the same occupation
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A 1944 voter registration list for San Diego has Mrs. Virginia M. Forbes, 1937 Orange, housewife, Democrat. No other Forbes listed with her.
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Thanks Shelly that has gave me something else to go on ,I thought Andrew must have died but took us citizenship state of California 29/7/1937 ??
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Still looking for help finding Andrew was wondering if any one could help with this name Visilie ??? on the 1920 census she is with Andrew. I dont think this is Andrews Daughter their is also a Clara which again I doubt if she is Andrews was just wondering if Visilie is a transcription error very confusing >:(
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Thats what the name seems to look like. Only ever seen it before as a surname in Alaska ???
Sandra
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I don't think this has been mentioned:
1927 SF Directory
Forbes, Andw (Virginia) cabtmkr H1229 York
Forbes, Clara r1229 York
So, Clara was still in San Francisco in 1927. So far, I don't see Jennie or Clara's sister.
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1929 SF Directory
Forbes, Andw A (Virginia) installer WUTELCo H212 Girard
Forbes, Clara r212 Girard
1930
All three have 34 Jules av as an address
Andrew is an installer W U Tel
Clara is written as Clara M
I don't see her after 1930.
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Thanks Lisa I will check Clara out to see if I can find anything else on her,I think Jennie must have died ???
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There is now a California death index for 1905-1939 here: http://www.rootschat.com/links/0pbf/ I didn't see any likely matches for Jennie or others in the family.
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Lisa I did find Clara 1930 same address as Andrew but not sure what the H stands for against Andrews name would it be householder ? and R against Clara's name would that be resident ?.I have Andrew in 1930 census but no Clara ?? I have a death record for Donald A Forbes 1944 San Diego was wondering if it was the Donald in the 1930 census as Andrew was there in 1943 occupation shipdwk so confusing !!! ::)
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In city directories, typically h=home and r= resides.
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Sgt Donald A Forbes.
Birth: Jun. 26, 1922 - Death: Oct. 16, 1944
Burial- Fort Rosecrans National Cemetery San Diego San Diego County California.
Plot: Section H, Site 92
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0pbg/
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Thanks Shelly and Sandra for the information I will find all this family some day This is such an amazing site every one is so helpful can't thank you all enough :)
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I was wondering if Clara's sister married prior to the 1930 census and Clara married right after the census. It would explain why we can't locate them, yet.
I'll check back here later, after work. :)
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Can't seem to find andrew and Virginia on the 1940 census if any one can help
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I cannot find them in 1940. It appears that they were living in San Francisco in 1935, 1936 and 1937 (SF Directories). They next appear in San Diego County in 1943. I wonder where they were in 1940? ???
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I know ite very frustrating I have looked every where ::)
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According to the California death index, Virginia's maiden name was McManus. Looking at the 1900 census, Virginia M McManus was living with her family, including James (father), Sarah (mother) and brother James M or N.
The 1930 census shows Sarah and James living in San Diego. They are both widowed. James was a carpenter (carpenter / house).
According to the California death index, Sarah passed away in San Diego in 1944.
Maybe Andrew and Virginia settled in San Diego to be near her mother?
Sarah and James were living in National City, San Diego in 1940. James was a carpenter / PWA. (Probably Public Works Administration.)
After a quick search, I do not see Andrew in National City (I was hoping he might be located near his mother-in-law.)
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Thanks for the information dont know where Andrew went ???
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Still looking for help finding Andrew have searched and searched for him in the 1940 census can't even find Virginia also .....Have tried looking for Andrew in 1910 census also but no luck he left Canada 1909 for USA any help would be appreciated :) :)
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Virginia appears to be on Find a Grave - http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=FOR&GSpartial=1&GSbyrel=all&GSst=6&GScntry=4&GSsr=881&GRid=73845291&
Maybe it would be worth contacting the cemetery to see if any other Forbes are with her?
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Have you checked with the Cemetery to see if Virginia is buried with Andrew ?
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0ezt/
Shelly has found a City Directory entry for 1937 and there is a Naturalization for Andrew Anderson Forbes 29 July 1937.
The California Death Index starts in 1940 and he doesn'tt seem to be listed so perhaps died between 1937 and 1940.
Looks like soneone else is looking for info on Andrew - same person has tree on anc...
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0ezu/
Sandra
Think that was suggested quite early on in the thread (reply 5)
Sandra
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Thanks Shellyesq and Sandra I have contacted the find a grave people and nothing ..That is my tree on Ancestry and I have Andrew in 1943 San Diego California and after that can't seem to find him ...Have searched for him in Canada as he had brother's there and two of his brother's went to U S A in 1914 got them in 1920 and they have disappeared so frustrating ...
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I think you should try to contact the cemetery directly, rather than Find a Grave. Find a Grave is just volunteers and doesn't necessarily have information about everyone buried at that cemetery.
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Rosie, have you contacted Evergreen Cemetery. Santa Cruz Santa Cruz County California ?
http://www.santacruzmah.org/evergreen/research/
OR Santa Cruz County Genealogical Society.
http://scgensoc.org/.
OR Santa Cruz Library - text a librarian.
http://www.santacruzpl.org/services/detail/40/
Clutching at straws really Rosie ::)
Sandra
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Thanks to both will certainly try that thanks for your help :) :)
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Was looking for some help to establish if this Donald is a family member he was born 26/6/1922 California and died 1944 in Italy and was brought back and buried 1949 at Fort Rosecrans cemetery San Diego ...I was hoping some one could help with the parent's or point me in the right direction ...I have who I think might be his father Andrew Forbes mother Virginia McManus I have them on the 1930 census in California with a Donald A Forbes ( son) might be clutching at straws here but would appreciate any advice and help :) :)
Topics on same family merged ~ moderator
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Thanks Shelly
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You're welcome.
His internment form indicates that he was originally interred in Italy and was interred in San Diego on 7 Mar. 1949. His service number was 39108510. Based on that service number, this was his enlistment - https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/KMKG-7PQ
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Yes Shellyesq have all these details was still trying to work out if this is Andrew and Virginia's son :(
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Next time, please mention all the information that you have so others don't duplicate your efforts.
Sometimes, the internment forms will list a next of kin, so it's generally a source worth checking. Short of finding an obituary or ordering the service records, I don't know if there's any way else to determine whose son he was.
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Will do... :) have requested an obituary look up so finger's crossed thanks again have checked the form but no next of kin appears on it >:(
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Can remember spending hours on this one at various times, as I know Lisa in California and Shelly would also have done. Can't find my notes on this one now - probably thrown them away ::) Just remind me - have you ever found a birth record for Donald A Forbes 6 th June 1922 ? Although the 1930 census didn't say he was adopted, it could be a consideration, since the other son Andrew W Forbes was described as adopted and don't think anyone ever found him ???
Have you explored the possibility of enquiring to see if there was an obituary for Virginia's Mother Sarah McManus who died 20 th August 1944 San Diego - IF there was one - it could mention surviving grandchildren ? Even the other 2 Visile (or what ever name it turns out to be) and Clara ? Food for thought anyway.
There is a chap mentioned on the link below who will do Obituary Look ups San Diego - might be worth a try ???
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~obitl/volca.html
Sandra
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Never thought on obituary for Virginia's mother will certainly try that and maybe I will get some sort of closure on this side of the family :) :) :)
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Could try a San Diego Message Board posting for Obit on ancestry. Here is somewhere that lets you begin a new thread once you are logged in.
http://boards.ancestry.com/localities.northam.usa.states.california.counties.sandiego/4655/mb.ashx
Sandra
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Thanks Sandra have done this did contact another source on the San Francisco obituary library and no have never been able to find a birth for this Donald this family are a mystery ....I think what some one said about Jennie and Virginia being the same person might be true as I suppose Jennie could be short for Virginia what do you think :)
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Yes, if she were referred to as "Ginnie/Ginny", enumerator cold have mistaken that for Jennie.
Virginia could have been the name of that other daughter, you never know. Think I looked at that possibility.
Sandra
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Thanks Sandra I will just keep looking and hoping something turns up :) :) :)
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Just an update on Andrew Anderson Forbes found 2 records US Social Security Applications and claims 1 says life claim 24/5/1957 notes 20/4/1979
The next says original ssn notes 23/12/1983 ? not sure what this means
Would I be correct in saying Andrew was still alive in 1983 ..Thanks Rosie
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Hi Rosie,
The U.S. Social Security Applications and Claims Index is great because it is picking up more details than the SSDI provides. The 24 May 1957 date shows a life claim and you would think Andrew was still alive at that date. Unsure about the 20 April 1979 date - would make him 95 years old. On other entries I have seen, a death date is also included but not on the entry for Andrew ??? Would be nice to think he was still living but he doesn't seem to show on the SSDI.
The notes section on some I have looked at showed how at the time of death there was a name variation in their records but Andrew A Forbes is still written as Andrew A Forbes so that is a mystery.
Will try and read through a few blogs to see if the mystery unravels.
Sandra
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I would think he must have still been alive then but not seeing a death he comes from a long lived Forbes Line ...My grandma and great grandfather both lived in to their ninety's ..Is this just a new thing that has been added Sandra ...It sure made my morning finding this :D
Rosie
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HI Rosie,
Was pleased to see you had found something new - always worth while going back to the brick-wall, just shows how new things come along every so often. Yes, U.S. Social Security Applications and Claims Index is a recent addition on ancestry - can you give me the link to the 23/12/1983 one - must be having a blank moment - couldn't see that one.
Thanks
Sandra ;)
Added I see the entry you refer to now. I am beginning to wonder if that is the date the info was put on the system - just a thought anyhow. ???
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HI Rosie,
Just reading thru again - reply 45 - did you have any luck with an obit for Sarah McManus (mother of Virginia)
Would be handy if it named those possibly married grandchildren ?
In reply 35 you mentioned brothers in Canada - have you traced those ? Not sure if it was the same brothers but are they the ones that ended up in the USA in 1920 and then disappeared ?
Sorry about the questions, just wondering if there is an angle we haven't looked at. Obituaries for any of those could help the search or throw up another clue.
Regards
Sandra
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Just an update on Andrew Anderson Forbes found 2 records US Social Security Applications and claims 1 says life claim 24/5/1957 notes 20/4/1979
The next says original ssn notes 23/12/1983 ? not sure what this means
Would I be correct in saying Andrew was still alive in 1983 ..Thanks Rosie
This one is obviously not yours - I can see a record of a WW2 Draft for a Andrew Forbes born 24 December 1883 Glasgow Scotland with a wife Ella Forbes - Burnside Clatsop Oregon. This one died 17 September 1958 Clatsop Oregon. The U.S. Social Security Applications and Claims Index has a claim date for him as 22 September 1950 and the notes say 27 Dec 1978 name listed as Andrew Forbes. Perhaps the notes are nothing to do with applications or deaths, might they have been put on the system then ???
Sandra
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Hi Sandra the first claim 24/5/1957 notes date 20/4/1079 the name listed for that one is Andrew A Forbes ...The second has his full name Andrew Anderson Forbes b 30 January 1884 Aberdeen mother Agnes Ferguson father William Forbes type of claim original ssn ? notes 23/12/1983 name listed as Andrew Anderson Forbes
Have never been able to find him on the 1940 census did see that one you mentioned Andrew and Ella Forbes ..
The last record I had for his brother's James and William was the 1920 USA census ...but will keep looking ..as this was progress today :D
Rosie
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My point about the other one Rosie was that he died 17 September 1958 - yet his U.S. Social Security Applications and Claims Index notes say 27 Dec 1978 name listed as Andrew Forbes.
This could be when he was added to the system or some alteration made but he obviously wasn't alive at that date. The same could apply in the instance of your Andrew Anderson Forbes.
Sandra
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Hi Sandra just found a listing for Wid Virginia M Forbes in 1969 Santa Cruz so looks like Andrew has died between 1957 /1969 ..Think it is definitely Virginia as she appears with the same middle name with Andrew in 1943 San Diego ...Think I should smash this brick wall eventually ;D ;D ..Can't work out the 2 Social Security records ???
Just read your post :P
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Hi Rosie,
Could this be a brother John or just a coincidence with the names ? Marriage record for a John Ferguson Forbes aged 42 years - born Scotland - widowed - occupation :- carpenter - residence Phoenix Arizona - father William Forbes and mother Agnes Ferguson
Date of marriage 15 August 1921 Los Angeles - Spouse - Sarah Alice Tyndall Los Angeles. Single - Born Indiana - Maiden Name of Mother was Elizabeth Walls.
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01fsn/
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01fsp/
Sandra
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Are William (aged 46 years) and James (aged 44 years) Forbes together on California Passenger List arriving San Francisco from Canada on the San Jose 20 July 1914 ?
Sandra
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Are William (aged 46 years) and James (aged 44 years) Forbes together on California Passenger List arriving San Francisco from Canada on the San Jose 20 July 1914 ?
Sandra
Yes Sandra this is them this looks like them in the 1920 census in Santa Cruz working as labourer's in a lumber camp James Forbes 49 single William Forbes 51 single listed as being the son of James .That is the last I have on them don't know if they went back to Canada or remained in the USA...Yes that is John after years of searching for him I eventually had contact from his grandson so between us we have gathered a lot of information ...He opened a store in Nadeau California and ran it with his wife Alice J F & A Forbes store
Rosie
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This is a long thread. ;) Are there any records that I may help search?
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Thanks Lisa yes it is a long thread it's one of these brick walls ??? Was just updating the information I had found on Andrew Anderson Forbes have still not found exact date of death for him ...So any information I would be very grateful
Rosie
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Hi all just an update think I have at last found my Andrew Anderson Forbes death 10th August 1961 ..Rhin Wisconsin ...Find a grave has Andrew Anderson Forbes birth 30Jan 1884 ( same date as my Andrew )died 10 August 1961 ...Eagle River Cemetery Vilas County Wisconsin U S A ...what do you think ?
Rosie ;D
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Looks good Rosie - so pleased you have persevered and found your man ;)
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=forbes&GSiman=1&GScid=260070&GRid=21091200&
Have a great day
Regards
Sandra
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Sounds good!
There are two Social Security applications for him, both giving the parents as William Forbes and Agnes Ferguson and birth as Aberdeen. Both numbers were issued in California. He made a life claim on 24 May 1957, probably for retirement benefits.
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There are two Social Security applications for him, both giving the parents as William Forbes and Agnes Ferguson and birth as Aberdeen. Both numbers were issued in California. He made a life claim on 24 May 1957, probably for retirement benefits.
Thanks Shelley was wondering about the life claim ...thanks for all your help..
now to try and find the other two brothers ???
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Hi all several years down the line success at last as mentioned before Jennie and Virginia are the same person ...Found a marriage for V M McManus 4/5/1908 Woodbury Iowa to Ira D Kelly ...Ira marries again 1920 ...Not found the marriage yet of Virginia to Andrew Anderson Forbes ::)
Found a delayed birth record for daughter Clara May Kelley 27/1/1910 Iowa
Death for Clara M Sanchez 2/3/1998 Watsonville Santa Cruz she married Alfonso Zenon Sanchez 26/10/1929
Verle Margaret Kelly 21/8/1908 Lismore Nobles Minnesota died December 1978 Daly City San Mateo
California ..Married Alexander James Nizukcoffsky /Nizuk 30/11/1929 San Francisco
So getting there still got to find the two sons of Andrew's will keep trying ...Just thought you would all like to know and thanks for all the help along the way ..
One happy bunny Rosie :) :)
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Terrific. Obituary for Clara May Sanchez was in the Santa Cruz Sentinel (Santa Cruz California)
5 March 1998 - page 6
Clara May Sanchez - No services are planned for Clara May Sanchez who died Monday at Watsonville Convalescent hospital after a long illness. She was 88.
A native of Sioux City Iowa, she had lived in Watsonville area for 20 years. She was a home-maker. Surtvived by 2 daughters who are named and eight grand-children. Cremation is under the direction of Mehl's Colonial Chapel 222 E Lake Ave, Watsonville.
Sandra
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Thanks for that Sandra :)
Rosie
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Interestingly there were a few newspaper reports about Verlie M Nizuk.
A case of disturbing the peace against Mrs Verlie M Nizuk was thrown out 17 June 1939 (San Francisco Examiner) 17 June 1939 - page 5
13 July 1941 - San Francisco Examiner - It took 11 Nizuk children to make a plea to a judge regarding a fine (of $90 for damage there father was accused of making to an automobile of a Mr Cummins) and he couldn't pay out of his $125 earnings. Instead Papa Nizuk got 6 months probation and ordered to pay something every two weeks towards the $40.
Another report in The Press Democrat - 27 January 1940 - page 3 (Part of the article said - San Francisco Probation Officer said Verlie was not mentally competent to manage her affairs and her home.)
17 Jan 1940 - The Press Democrat - Santa Rosa, California - (page 2) Alexander Nizuk charging that his wife was being unlawfully detained in Sonoma State Home - petitioned that she should be released in order that a seventh child expected within 6 weeks might not be born in a mental hospital. Stating she was not feeble minded an d had successfully cared for all her children since they were married, all of whom were mentally normal and she had been able to manage all her own affairs without assistance.
Reports in October (11th and 12 th - 1940) Mrs Verlie Nizuk declared 7 of her 8 children had been taken from her by a court for reasons she had not been able to learn and that she had been unable to learn the whereabouts of the children.............etc etc
Sandra
Alexander and Verlie were married 2 December 1929
Loads of articles -
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Had a quick look thru the thread at speed.........which didn't mention Virginia's obituary
Santa Cruz Sentinel (24 March 1981 - Santa Cruz California) - 24 March 1981 - page 24
Virginia M Forbes - Servives will be conducted Thursday for Virginia M Forbes who died Sunday in Watsonville. She was 94. A Native of Wisconsin she had lived in Santa Cruz area for a long time before moving to Watsonville a few years ago. She was the writer of two songs "The Beautiful Shore" and "Our Little Home" both of which were published as sheet music. She is survived by her daughter................,several grandchildren (some names) 21 great grandchildren..........2 great-great grandchildren.
Services will be conducted at Wessendorf and Holmes Funeral Chapel 223 Church Street. Thursday at 1.30 pm with the Rev Bernard Corneliussen officiating . private burial will follow at Evergreen Cemetery.
Also an entry on the 25 March 1981
No mention of adopted son.
Sandra
Song : The Beautiful Shore and Dear Eyes of Blue by Virginia Forbes .....listed here
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01ms5/
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Thought this was interesting and worth a mention.............
Santa Cruz Sentinel (Santa Cruz California) 31 December 1953 - page 3
Andrew Forbes Family Gather for Family Reunion...........
For the first time in 14 years, all of the 34 members of Andrew Forbes family gathered for a reunion on Christmas Day at the Forbes home 258 Mountain View Road.
Four generation were represented at the affair, including the couples two daughters, 15 grand-children and four great grand-children.
A special event of the celebration was Forbes release from the tuberculosis ward of the county hospital so that he could spend the holidays with his family. Expects to be permanently discharged in March.
Relatives came form Santa Cruz, San Francisco and Watsonville.
Sandra
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This one is even more interesting .....................marriage date of Mr and Mrs Forbes is 5 October 1917 Arizona.
Santa Cruz Sentinel (Santa Cruz California) - 11 October 1957 - page 3
Mr and Mrs Forbes observe there 40th Anniversary
More than 60 family members and friends attended an open house at the ranch home of Mr and Mrs Andrew Forbes 258 Mountain View Road on the occasion of the 40th wedding anniversary.
The affair also served to celebrate the 12 th birh day of the Forbes grand-daughter - named (this was a female Sanchez)
Mr and Mrs Forbes moved here 6 years ago , were married October 5 th 1917 Arizona. The couple lived for 22 years in San Francisco where Forbes was associated with the Western Union and also resided for several years in San Diego before buying their ranch here.
Family members were present for Saturday's open house were, there son-in-law and daughter Mr and Mrs Alexander Nuzuk (now deceased) and three of there daughters of San Francisco (daughters were named) ; there 2 daughters (named in the obituary for Virginia) and a son of one of those daughter "Alfonso Sanchez" of Santa Cruz (now deceased) their grandchildren and their families. (all named) .......................
In all the Forbes have 15 grandchildren and 9 great grandchildren .
The serving of a buffet supper completed the celebration.
Obituary for Alfonso Sanchez in the Santa Cruz Sentinel (Santa Cruz CA) 27 August1967 - page 37
Interment was Evergreen cemetery.
Sandra
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Sandra thank you so much for that extra information much Appreciated...So he was married in Arizona his older brother John was also there ...I am still checking but I have a feeling the adopted son is the son of Virle Margaret Kelley ..
Will have a look tomorrow
Rosie
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On the 1930 census the Andrew A Forbes is down adopted son age 3 his fathers birth place California mother's Minnesota ( Verle was born there )
Verle Kelley married a John Donovan 12/12/1925 Alameda
A Clarence Williams Donovan born 3/11/1926 San Francisco
W11 Draft Records Andrew A Forbes is down as his next of kin
What do you think ?
Rosie
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Yes, that's the right connection. I went back to check and Clarence was one of the children named in the 13 July 1941 article - when they were trying to get Pape Nizuk off the automobile damage rap.
"The tenth child "Clarence - is having a vacation from the rest of the family so he didn't come to court with mama, papa and his brothers and sisters."
Also mentioned in the obit for Verlie M Nizuk - 3 January 1979 - San Francisco Examiner.
Verlie M Nizuk at rest December 27 1978 beloved wife of Alex Nizuk, loving mother of (names 11 children) idolised grandmother of 24 grandchildren and 7 great grandchildren......etc.....
Interment was Holy Cross Cemetery.
Sandra
Marie Virginia Donovan - 26 October 1928 - San Francisco - mother Kelly
passed away Marie V Nizuk Evans 21 April 2001 - Daly City San Mateo
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/107714187
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The Star News - (Chula Vista california) - 29 November 1989 - page 2
Clarence W "Okie" Donovan died 25 Nov at a local hospital aged 63 years. Born November 3 1926 in San Francisco he lived in National City for 40 years. He was a roofer for many years and served in the merchant navy in the 1940's. Survivors include his daughters.........(named) seven grandchildren and 2 great grandsons. An irish wake for the family and friends will be 2pm Wednesday at 2617 Plaza Blvd Apt 611. National City. His body has been donated to science at the University of California., San Diego.
Sandra
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John Hildred Nuzuk
Santa Cruz Sentinel - - 16 March 1992
Services will be Tuesday for John H Nuzuk who died Saturday of a heart attack while fishing in Monterey Bay. He was 51.
A native of Santa Clara he had lived in San Mateo for the last 25 years. He enjoyed fishing and watching movies. He is survived by his 2 daughters (named) and a son (named) 5 sisters (named) and 4 brothers (named)
A mass of christian burial will be celebrated noon Tuesday at St Josephs Roman Catholic Church 435 Monterey Avenue Capitola ..............etc
Committal Holy Cross Santa Cruz
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/112386012
Sandra
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Akex J Nizuk
The Times (San Mateo California) 23 March 1974
Alex J Nizuk Jnr 406 Channing Way Pacifica died Tuesday at Marys Help Hospital.
He was a member of the Plummers Union Local 393 of San Jose.
Survivors include his widow (named) 2 sons and a daughter (named), 6 brothers, 5 sisters and his parents Mr and Mrs A Nizuk Snr of San Francisco. ...............
Interment Holy Cross.
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/108314428
Sandra
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Ronald Warren Nizuk - 1936 - 24 September 2006
Published in the Florida Times Union - 24/9/2006
Ronald W Nizuk passed away Thursday 21 September 2006 . Born in San Francisco CA he was resident in Jacksonville for 42 years. Ronnie is survived by his life long companion of 48 years, G L Drake, several brothers, sisters, nieces and nephews. he will be missed by all and may he rest in peace.
Sandra
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Sandra once again thank you for all your information I am so grateful I can now add this to the Forbes family ..You never know I might hit gold with his brother James and William thanks again
Rosie :) :)
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Arizona Republic (Phoenix Arizona) -5 May 1939
Painter Dies In Swimming
Cecil Forbes 35 years old, painter 1207 East Pima Street died of a heart attack at about 1.25 pm yesterday while swimming behind Joint Head Dam seven miles east of Phoenix.
Friend said he dived into the 75 yard pool, swan swiftly to the centre , turned to them, gasped and sank.
Paul V McCaw Temporary coroner said a inquest would be unnecessary.
Two men and a boy in a makeshift boat recovered the body in an hour with grappling hooks improvised by Oscar Roberts and dean Bushong deputies sheriff. The physician said Forbes was probably dead before he sank.
An inhalator squad from the Phoenix Fire Department summoned by W A Millett and W A McKenzie, other deputies worked for nearly an hour with a resuscitator but were unable to revive even a spark of life.
Forbes had gone to the swimming hole with Alfred and Mildred Griffin 1120 East Mohave Street ; Marvin Sims 1610 South 12 th Street; Ava Wines 1207 East Pima Street; and Dolores Dwyer 1209 East Pima Street.
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01ms7/
http://genealogy.az.gov/azdeath/060/10602819.pdf
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/127929960
Sandra
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Thought this was interesting and worth a mention.............
Santa Cruz Sentinel (Santa Cruz California) 31 December 1953 - page 3
Andrew Forbes Family Gather for Family Reunion...........
For the first time in 14 years, all of the 34 members of Andrew Forbes family gathered for a reunion on Christmas Day at the Forbes home 258 Mountain View Road.
Four generation were represented at the affair, including the couples two daughters, 15 grand-children and four great grand-children.
A special event of the celebration was Forbes release from the tuberculosis ward of the county hospital so that he could spend the holidays with his family. Expects to be permanently discharged in March.
Relatives came form Santa Cruz, San Francisco and Watsonville.
Sandra
Just been reading this again so no mention of their son ??? thanks for the information on Cecil Forbes did have his death but the other information was a bonus
Rosie :)
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The San Francisco Examiner - 16 October 1931
Child theft charge hits grand-parents.
A warrant was issued yesterday for the arrest of Mr and Mrs Andrew Forbes of Lindsay California on a charge of child stealing. The warrant was worn by their daughter Mrs Verlie Nuzik 36 Jules Avenue.
The boy 4 is Andrew William Donovan, Mrs Nuzik's child by a previous marriage. Mrs Nuzik said her parents took the child from in front of the house.
Sandra
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Andrew seems to disappear after that 1930 census and the newspaper report October 1931.
Andrew was not named (nor was Clarence) with the other Nizuk children on the 1954 petition for naturalization for Alexander James Nizuk.
Sandra
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Thanks again Sandra ..all these newspaper articles have been very interesting and confirms the adopted son ...Like you I have Never found Andrew and Virginia on the 1940 census forms
Rosie :)