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Title: Another one needing TLC
Post by: newbie on Tuesday 03 May 05 07:27 BST (UK)
Hello
I have been lent this photo of a gggrandmother it's very faded and needs bringing back to life with some TLC, any help would be much appreciated.
Newbie
Title: Re: Another one needing TLC
Post by: newbie on Tuesday 03 May 05 07:45 BST (UK)
Hello again,
If it is who I think it is (the person who lent it only thinks it's a gggrandmother) can anyone date it? That would help me nail it down
Newbie
Title: Re: Another one needing TLC
Post by: kim ter-horst on Tuesday 03 May 05 09:16 BST (UK)
hi newbie

not like I am a profesional or anything but I went at the picture with blind faith that I could improve it - see what you think

if there is no picture it means I couldn't figure out how to attach it - I'm new at this too

kim
Title: Re: Another one needing TLC
Post by: uk2003 on Tuesday 03 May 05 09:51 BST (UK)
Hi Newbie

Due to size of the posted photo it is very blocky, would love to work on high res version, pm me if you have it.

Regards
Ken
Title: Re: Another one needing TLC
Post by: newbie on Tuesday 03 May 05 10:27 BST (UK)
it's looking better already!, at least you can see her face now, the family resemblance to my grandmother is startling.
Newbie
Title: Re: Another one needing TLC
Post by: deadants on Tuesday 03 May 05 10:36 BST (UK)
Hi newbie,
     I was wondering what resolution you are scaning your photo. It has a lot of large pixelated areas.  If you could set your scans to 300dpi or better, that should fix the problem. Also you could try scanning it in greyscale and see how that works.
Title: Re: Another one needing TLC
Post by: newbie on Tuesday 03 May 05 10:38 BST (UK)
I still have the photo what resolution shall I scan at?
Newbie
Title: Re: Another one needing TLC
Post by: deadants on Tuesday 03 May 05 10:46 BST (UK)
Well, try it at 300 dpi for starters. What program have you got for graphics, photos etc.
Title: Re: Another one needing TLC
Post by: newbie on Tuesday 03 May 05 10:47 BST (UK)
here it is at 300dpi,
Title: Re: Another one needing TLC
Post by: newbie on Tuesday 03 May 05 10:52 BST (UK)
and here it is again,
Title: Re: Another one needing TLC
Post by: newbie on Tuesday 03 May 05 10:54 BST (UK)
Hi Deadants, is that any good, I downloaded Irfanview and tried to resize it, by half.
I also scanned it at 600 dpi but I think that might be too big to post here?
shall I resize again?
thank you for your help,
Newbie
Title: Re: Another one needing TLC
Post by: deadants on Tuesday 03 May 05 11:05 BST (UK)
There just seems to be something weird going on. unless it's in the photo. It has got large areas of one scale of gray. I have attached your latest photo you just sent. It is at 100% you can see how pixelated it is.  I have also attached what my scanner settings would be if I was going to scan it. Have another go. It shouldn't be in the photo as pixelation is a digital information problem.

I have to go now but will get onto it tomorrow

deadants
Title: Re: Another one needing TLC
Post by: uk2003 on Tuesday 03 May 05 11:07 BST (UK)
Yep still very blocky
Title: Re: Another one needing TLC
Post by: newbie on Tuesday 03 May 05 14:40 BST (UK)
I don't know what I'm doing wrong ???
The photo is sepia /brown coloured. but very thin (I think it may be a copy) stuck on a piece of thick paper/cardboard which is also very old (I'm sure I can see a pair of boots or shoes next to her skirt just back from the edge.
My scanner is just a visioneer 4400 usb, first page  has this on it
Scan Configuration
Mode :    Grayscale  (drop down box, can select  Black & white, True Colour etc)
Res :  300 dpi  (drop down box, varies from 100 dpi to 1200 dpi)
Size :  5.43 x 7.27 (variable, Letter, A 4, user defined, autocrop)
Image size 3.39mb - this is the size for this actual image.

Does that make sense, I tried to copy to post here as you did but couldn't get it to do it.

Thats it
Newbie
Title: Re: Another one needing TLC
Post by: Berlin-Bob on Tuesday 03 May 05 14:49 BST (UK)
Hi Newbie,

my guess is that the 3.39MB is the size of a bitmap file (picture.bmp), which has the most information, and is correspondingly large.
When you've scanned the photo, try converting it to .jpg format  and look at the size then.

The image has to under 300 KB
(See  on "Additional Options")
Allowed file types: txt, jpg, jpeg, gif, pdf, mpg, png, ged.
Maximum attachment size allowed: 300 KB   

If it is still too big, try resizing the .bmp file and converting again to .jpg.
Beginners / How to Use RootsChat / Adding images to Posting & Profiles (http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,12753.0.html)

And if that doesn't work, tell us exactly where it is not working, someone here will guide you along.

Good luck,
Bob
Title: Re: Another one needing TLC
Post by: uk2003 on Tuesday 03 May 05 18:15 BST (UK)
Hi newbie

Thanks for the 3+meg copy, hope you like the version I sent you back. Oh yes you are right about the set of feet in the original.

But I

Still cannot get the colour right  >:(

Regards
Ken

Title: Re: Another one needing TLC
Post by: deadants on Wednesday 04 May 05 06:49 BST (UK)
Hi  newbie,
    until we can figure out why these photos colour count is so small, we won't be able to  get a satisfactory result.

1.
Optical resolution (the resolution or dots per inch at which the machine can scan): 1200 x 1200 dpi should be the minimum; 2400 x 2400 dpi is better. The more dots or pixels you have, the more you can enlarge the picture without it getting fuzzy or blocky.
2.
Bit depth: The higher the bit depth, the more colors the scanner can recognize. Look for 40-bit or higher.

Have a look at this ink http://tinyurl.com/7m26b

deadants
Title: Re: Another one needing TLC
Post by: newbie on Wednesday 04 May 05 10:32 BST (UK)
Thankyou, it's looking so much better, I see what you mean about blocky.  There is not much difference in tone in the photograph, especially the background.
Off to have another go.
Newbie