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Just wondering if anyone has access to information or records and could carry out a Look Up for me please.
I am trying to locate a burial for Clara Banbury who died in the September quarter of 1875 aged 64. Reference Leicester 7a 170.
Many thanks in advance for all replies and offers of information ;D
Steve
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Greeting’s Again. …Steve.
;D……“ Thought this one would come up……” …… ;D
Welford Road Cemetery. Leicester.
Plot No’. C.N. 988.
N 988 C BANBURY Clara 1875 Aug 3 Aged.64
Peacock Lane Saint Martin 16908
N 988 C BANBURY Clara 1879 Jun 9 23
All Saints Road Saint Nicholas 20577
N 988 F BANBURY Jonathan King 1907 Apr 13 72
Union Infirmary Leicester 50589
N 988 F BANBURY Fanny 1910 Nov 4 77
18 Albion Hill Leicester 52569
N 988 F BANBURY Elizabeth 1913 Jun 10 48
North E. Infirmary Leicester 54118
Abv. = North E Infirmary = North Evington Hospital
(Stared as The Poor Law Infirmary. )
latter to be renamed “ Leicester General Hospital. “ ..LGH.
Known locally as “ Pepper Pot Hospital “
Due to it’s unique shaped Chimney like the top of a Pepper pot
Union Infirmary = No’ 2 Swain Street.
Latter to be come “ Hillcrest Hospital “
MIKE. ……... ;)
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Hiya Mike,
Superb details again. ;D ;D
I take no responsibility for this post coming up. Some very kind chap called Mike from Leicester started the ball rolling on this topic with certain information and detail in another thread on a burial for Elizabeth Banbury in 1881 ;) ;) ;)
Seriously Mike, sincere thanks for your informative and comprehensive reply, just what I was hoping for. ;D
Steve
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;D…..Scratches top of head……” Another fine mess you got me onto “…… ;D
I take it this Claria was the wife of Richard the Saddler / Harness maker of No’. 2 Peacock Lane. ……
Interesting that Richard was buried in another plot
although it was not far away from this one ….
MIKE. ……. ;)
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Thats correct Mike. Richard married Clara in 1833 at somewhere called Saddington.
I`m kind of assuming the second younger wife called Catherine perhaps had a say in where her husband would be buried. Would she want him buried with his first wife?
Because I have had no success tracing Catherine Banbury after 1901 I therefore don`t know what happened to her. She was substantially younger than Richard so she may well have married again :-\ :-\ We`ll probably never know.
All the best Steve ;)
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Greeting’s Again. ….Steve.
Sorry but something is not right here……….. :-\
Did Richard change his occupation ?
Whilst doing some digging around…….As you do…….
Found this Baptism for Jonathan King Banbury
1835.
St: Helen’s Parish Church. Saddington.
Jonathan King. Son of Richard & Clara Banbury.
Bapt. ..1st. March.
In the notes margin :~
Richard a Frame Work Knitter of Smeeton Kibworth Leicester.
compeared with Saddler / Harness Maker as per Census returns
born Beeby. ...
Jonathan is buried along with his Mother Claria in Welford Road.
With the right age. of 72.
I also see that Clara’s Maiden name was BRYANS who married Richard.
5th. November 1833. by LICENCE at St: Helen’s Saddington.
So. …My spanner in the works is ……
Are we chasing the wrong Richard & Clara ?..... ???
MIKE. ………
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Hi Mike and thankyou for your last reply ;D ;D
I`ll list what I know and perhaps we can combine our logic and come up with an answer.
1851 Census living at Southgates
Richard Banbury 39 Licensed Hawker Beeby
Clara 40 Smeeton
Jonathon 16 Leicester
Richard 14 Leicester
Mary Ann 11 Leicester
Charles 8 Leicester
Elizabeth 5 Leicester
William 2 Leicester
1861 Census living at 2 Peacock Lane
Richard Banbury 42 Harness Maker Beeby
Clara 49 Smeeton
Charles 20 Leicester
Elizabeth 16 Leicester
William 12 Leicester
Harriet 6 Leicester
1871 Census living at 2 Peacock Lane
Richard Banbury 58 Harness Maker Beeby
Clara 59 Smeeton
William 22 Harness Maker Leicester
Harriet 16 Leicester
1881 Census living at 2 Peacock Lane
Richard Banbury 69 Harness Maker Beeby
Catherine Fox 19 Visitor London
Flora Wilda 17 Visitor Warwickshire
I haven`t been able to find Richard and Clara on the 1841 Census. However several people who use A******y and who have Jonathon King Banbury in their trees have basically the same information as I do.........................and here is the but.....................the information they have all listed for 1841 census
!841 Census ( HO107. Piece 605. Book 5 ) living at Thornton Lane
Richard Banbury 32 FWK
Mary 30
Jonathon 7
Richard 5
Mary 1
I assume this is incorrect as Richard married Clara in 1833.
Another intriguing piece of information, Jonathon King Banbury (circa 1835) first born child to Richard and Clara, his grandmother was Harriet King.
Also Richard and Clara`s sixth born child was William Bryan Banbury (circa 1849 )
So in this respect I am assuming I have the right family.
What do you think Mike, can you throw any of your wisdom at this and make some sense for me. ;D
Sorry about the names, ages and locations etc not lining up :-[ Just can`t seem to be able to do that even though everthing line up nicely whilst composing this post. ::)
Many thanks Steve
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Greeting’s Again. … Steve.
Marriage information for Richard Banbury .
St: Helen’s Parish Church.
Saddington.
1833.
Entry No’. 37.
Richard Banbury. Of the Parish of Kibworth.
Claria Bryans. Of this Parish.
Married in this Church
This Fifth Day of November.
One Thousand Eight Hundred and Thirty three.
By LICENCE
By Me :~ Edward Pot. Curate.
In the Presence of :~
John Ward.
Elizabeth Bryan.
EXTRA Information via the affidavit of the Licence Bods. :~
Approved & Granted ….30th. October. 1833.
BANBURY. Richard. Grazier of Saddington.
Bachelor Aged. …21.
BRYAN. Claria. Of Saddington.
Spinster.
Aged. ..21.
ALSO Spotted this Information from the Licence Bonds. …:~
Approved & Granted. ….28th. September. 1881.
BANBURY. Richard. Harness maker of the Parish of St: Martin’s.
WIDOWER.
FOX. Catherine. Spinster of St: Martin’s Parish.
Aged. 20.
With the consent of Father …CHARLES FOX.
MIKE. ……
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Hiya Mike,
Many thanks for your last reply and the information you posted in that reply ;D ;D
Just wondering if you happen to know what a Grazier is? Does this fit in with a FWK or saddler/harness maker?
You`ve also listed some fresh names for me to conjure with ;D ;D there is John Ward and Elizabeth Bryan then Charles Fox who gave his consent for his daughter to marry Richard.
Just wondering if your information lists a church for the marriage of Richard and Catherine or is it St Helens Church in Saddington for this marriage as well?
Many thanks again Mike for your continued help and interest in my posts.
Steve
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Greeting’s Again. …Steve.
Definitions :~
Grazier A person who pastures and raises cattle
Sorry the Church was not given within that Index card for the Licence Bonds.
But I would have a guess it was the Church of St: Martin’s
Because No’. 2 Peacock Lane would be opposite the Church.
Next time I’m at the Records Office I’ll chase that up. …….
MIKE. …..
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Hiya Mike,
Thankyou very much for your prompt response ;D ;D
I was just wondering about the church bearing in mind it was Richard`s second marriage.
Just to bring you upto date on the information you previously supplied and the names of the witnesses. A quick search for a christening for Clara Bryan reveals a date of 25.12.1811 at Saddington, (so I am guessing a free christening at St Helens?) with parents listed as John and Mary Bryan.
Elizabeth Bryan appears to be Clara`s younger sister born circa 1810.
Don`t know about John Ward yet.
I didn`t know about Charles Fox until tonight but I had previously wondered why Catherine Fox born in London 1862 ish was a visitor to Richard Banbury on the 1881 census. I traced Charles Fox and Catherine to the 1871 census where I found the family living in Newark. By 1881 Catherine had moved out to "visit" Richard but her Father Charles, Mother Etty, Sisters Elizabeth and Hannah plus Brother John are living at Chestnut Street in Leicester.
I can`t find Chestnut Street on my map but I found Brazil Street and Walnut Street on a modern map near Filbert Street, so I am assuming Chestnut Street could have been in this vicinity ??
Bet you are impressed now Mike ;) ;)
Perhaps catch you later, all the best Steve
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Greeting’s Again. …Steve. ……
Chestnut Street. :~
It’s the second street from Walnut Street going back to wards the Town Centre…
It had a Methodist Chapel standing on the corner which became a Furniture Warehouse. ……
It’s on the Leicester Map ( SW) 1902. ~ 1911..
It’s all gone now it’s under the Royal Infirmary Extensions
MIKE……….
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Yes found that Mike thanks very much. ;D
Onto Welford Road down Infirmary Road, Oxford Street then Southgate Street to get to Peacock Lane.
Steve ;)
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Hi I used to live filbert street 1970 when lrocester city the little foxes was there and Brazil street was adjacent to walnut street and my school was hazel street junior school these streets were destroyed for leicester royal infirmary carpark snd I am a ward and my dad was from braunstonr
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Hi Sharon
The posts above yours are now 8 years old so I'm guessing that the question has now been dealt with.
I can remember being taken to Filbert St. to watch a game between Leicester and Everton when I was about 14. It was quite exciting, and not a little frightening, to be carried up and down the terraces whether I wanted it or not when the crowd surged forward and back again to see action at one end of the pitch or another. It must have been a cup match or similar because the ground was packed. Another (and more dangerous) age!
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Just wondering if anyone has access to information or records and could carry out a Look Up for me please.
I am trying to locate a burial for Clara Banbury who died in the September quarter of 1875 aged 64. Reference Leicester 7a 170.
Many thanks in advance for all replies and offers of information ;D
Steve
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Just wondering if anyone has access to information or records and could carry out a Look Up for me please.
I am trying to locate a burial for Clara Banbury who died in the September quarter of 1875 aged 64. Reference Leicester 7a 170.
Many thanks in advance for all replies and offers of information ;D
Steve