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Title: HARMER Family
Post by: jannieg on Thursday 11 August 11 06:57 BST (UK)
I am wanting to trace the Harmer side of our family for my 2 Harmer sons.

John Revel Harmer is their father, his father was Ernest Walter Harmer and his mother Enid Louise Butterfield, Ernie's father was Henry Revel Harmer, we know of Cyril Harmer and his brother Bernard who were sons of Henry Revel.

would love to know more about them.
Title: Re: Harmer Family
Post by: cando on Thursday 11 August 11 07:18 BST (UK)
Could we have some dates and places of birth etc.  It is not permitted to post information about possible living people on rootschat.

Cheers
Cando
Title: Re: Harmer Family
Post by: Jamjar on Thursday 11 August 11 07:26 BST (UK)
In which 'State' are we looking?

Jamjar
Title: Re: Harmer Family
Post by: jannieg on Thursday 11 August 11 07:33 BST (UK)
Henry Revel Harmer was born 1869
Ernest Walter Harmer was born 1968 and died approx 1981
Title: Re: Harmer Family
Post by: jannieg on Thursday 11 August 11 07:34 BST (UK)
In which 'State' are we looking?

Jamjar
Ernest migrated to Austrlia and live in NSW
Title: Re: Harmer Family
Post by: cando on Thursday 11 August 11 07:38 BST (UK)
Engagement notice for Enid and Ernest
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0elf/

Birth Dec 1869 West Ham  4a/21
HARMER Henry Revell

Marriage
Jun qtr 1895
CHANNON Edith Annie  West Ham 4a/190      
HARMER Henry Revell  West Ham  4a/160   

According to a passenger record of Henry travelling to USA, his occupation was a valuer.

Marriage
582/1930    
HARMER Ernest W    
BUTTERFIELD Enid L
District Sydney

Cheers
Cando
Title: Re: Harmer Family
Post by: Dundee on Thursday 11 August 11 07:42 BST (UK)
Ernest most likely left England in 1927.
http://www.ancestorsonboard.com/  (you will need to pay to see an image of the passenger list)

Debra  :)
Title: Re: Harmer Family
Post by: cando on Thursday 11 August 11 07:47 BST (UK)
4 May 1945

GOLDEN WEDDING  HARMER - CHANNON

On May 4, 1895 at St John's Church, Stratford, London, by the Rev. Thomas Stevens, HENRY REVELL HARMER, Philatelic Auctioneer, son of the late Henry and Anna Harmer of Stratford, to EDITH ANNIE CHANNON, daughter of the late Edward and Annie Channon, of Marylebone.  Present address: 32-34 East 57th Street, New York City and 39-42 New Bond Street, London W1.  Cables to Brighton Hotel, Atlantic City.


Cheers
Cando

Title: Re: Harmer Family
Post by: cando on Thursday 11 August 11 07:57 BST (UK)
1901 Census
Living at Mount View, Coleraine Road, Greenwich
HARMER Henry Head  31 years  Commercial traveller  Born Stratford, Essex
HARMER Edith A  Wife  31 years     Born London
HARMER Edith M  Dau  5  Born Stratford, Essex
HARMER Ernest W  2 Son  Born Forest Hill, London
HARMER Frederick G  Uncle  43  Inspector of Police  Stratford Essex
HARMER  Florence G  Aunt   25  Born Islington, London
HARMER Sydney F Cousin  1  Born Calcutta, India

Cando.
Title: Re: Harmer Family
Post by: cando on Thursday 11 August 11 07:58 BST (UK)
Births Sep 1898 
HARMER Ernest Walter  W  Ham    4a/214

Cando
Title: Re: Harmer Family
Post by: cando on Thursday 11 August 11 08:02 BST (UK)
This may be Henry R's death, but perhaps you have this info

Deaths Mar qtr 1966
HARMER Henry R
Born c1870  96 years  Horsham, Sussex  5h/829

Cando
Title: Re: Harmer Family
Post by: cando on Thursday 11 August 11 08:17 BST (UK)
Mr E W HARMER 29 years, electrical engineer, embarked from London on the ORSOVA on 19 Aug 1927 ticketed to Sydney, Australia.  Last address in UK South Bank House, Surbiton, Surrey.  County of last permanent residence England. Country of intended permanent residence Australia.

A return trip on 6 Sep 1936.  Mr Ernest W HARMER, 37, engineer and Mrs Enid L HARMER, housewife, embarked from Liverpool on the NESTOR travelling 1st class and ticketed to Sydney.  Last address in UK Wakelin House, Main Road South, Hinchley Wood, Surrey.

Australian Electoral Roll
NSW 1954
HARMER Ernest Walter 17 Baden Road, Neutral Bay  Engineer
HARMER Enid Louise 17 Baden Road, Neutral Bay  HD

Cando

Title: Re: Harmer Family
Post by: cando on Thursday 11 August 11 08:45 BST (UK)
Births Jun 1896
HARMER Edith Mabel      W Ham    4a/12

Births Jun 1901 
HARMER Winifred Alice Greenwich 1d/1127

Births Sep 1903 
HARMER Cyril Henry C Greenwich 1d/1170   

Births Sep 1905   
HARMER Leslie Brook   Rochford 4a/720

Births Mar 1914   
HARMER Bernard B D    Channon    Maldon 4a/1442

Cando
Title: Re: Harmer Family
Post by: cando on Thursday 11 August 11 08:59 BST (UK)
This may be Henry R's death, but perhaps you have this info

Deaths Mar qtr 1966
HARMER Henry R
Born c1870  96 years  Horsham, Sussex  5h/829

Cando

Died. Henry Revell HARMER, 96, founder and chairman of London's 48year-old H. R. Harmer Ltd., world's biggest stamp dealer, who revolutionized the trade by introducing art-market-style auctioneering while making fond philatelists, during the '20s and '30s, of such customers as then-King Carol II of Rumania and Farouk of Egypt with canny hints that rare stamps are more portable than crown jewels; of a stroke; in Horsham, England.

Cando
Title: Re: Harmer Family
Post by: cando on Thursday 11 August 11 09:01 BST (UK)
And a little more

Stamps v. Stinks. To Harmer, which has sold and resold more than $42 million worth of stamps, the Caspary auction will be the biggest in a series of philatelic firsts that began 61 years ago. The family-owned company was founded by Henry Revell Harmer, who collected stamps as a schoolboy, decided after taking his first job in a chemical plant that he "could do better with stamps than with stinks." Harmer roamed the world in search of rarities, opened his first stamp auction in London in 1918. Harmer sold $56,000 worth of stamps his first season, trebled his business in the next ten years. Among Harmer customers: King George V (who sometimes squeezed the family budget to add to his priceless Commonwealth collection), King Carol II of Rumania, Alfonso XIII of Spain, and Egypt's King Fouad (whose stamps were sold by Harmer after Farouk's abdication). In 1954-55, its biggest year yet, Harmer's British, U.S. and Australian offices sold nearly $2,000,000 worth of stamps.

Cando
Title: Re: Harmer Family
Post by: cando on Thursday 11 August 11 09:10 BST (UK)
Henry Revel Harmer was born 1869
Ernest Walter Harmer was born 1968 and died approx 1981

I have given you Ernest Walter's birth reg in 1898

and his death appears to have been in 1983

HARMER   Ernest Walter   
Death notice 24 Jul 1983   Late of Mosman   
Published in the Sydney Morning Herald26 Jul 1983

Would you please remove the names of any living people from your request eg the name of your sons' father ie if he is living.

Cheers
Cando   
Title: Re: HARMER Family
Post by: Bharmer on Wednesday 19 December 18 06:22 GMT (UK)
Hello,

My great grand father is Henry Revell Harmer, grandfather is Bernard Harmer and Father is Chris Harmer.

Happy to provide you with information you may need from that side of the family.

Best,
Brian