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Title: Mary Hicks, death 1881 - 1891 Bexley Heath
Post by: Jonosue on Sunday 21 August 11 15:51 BST (UK)
I am looking for the death of Mary Hicks, born 1809, who was registered in Bexley Heath in 1881.
Her husband, Thomas, now a widower, was living with his son Edwin & family in Aldershot, Southampton. So she might have died in either place. She was a Catholic, which might help in the search.
Thank you to anyone who has a look for me! ;)
Title: Re: Mary Hicks, death 1881 - 1891 Bexley Heath
Post by: carol8353 on Sunday 21 August 11 16:40 BST (UK)
Use http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ and enter her name and 1881-1891 and check out any of them of about the right age.

That's all any of us can do  :D

Carol
Title: Re: Mary Hicks, death 1881 - 1891 Bexley Heath
Post by: Jeuel on Tuesday 23 August 11 13:56 BST (UK)
Her being a Catholic would only help if you have access to Catholic burial records.  Wherever and whenever she died she should be in the death indexes on Freebmd.

You might find a Will and/or an obituary in the local paper.
Title: Re: Mary Hicks, death 1881 - 1891 Bexley Heath
Post by: groom on Tuesday 23 August 11 14:10 BST (UK)
I am looking for the death of Mary Hicks, born 1809, who was registered in Bexley Heath in 1881.
Her husband, Thomas, now a widower, was living with his son Edwin & family in Aldershot, Southampton. So she might have died in either place. She was a Catholic, which might help in the search.
Thank you to anyone who has a look for me! ;)

Hi  - I presume you mean that she was living Bexley Heath in the 1881 census and that her husband was a widower by1891?

There are a lot of Mary Hicks who died between these dates, so as the others said it is just a matter of working your way through them on freebmd and eliminating. It will be easier as you know her date of birth as ages at death are given.

Good luck

Jan
Title: Re: Mary Hicks, death 1881 - 1891 Bexley Heath
Post by: Jonosue on Friday 26 August 11 16:32 BST (UK)
  :) Thank you all for your input. I had tried this avenue before, and found no-one that really fitted the bill. I was hoping for a bit of magic! Back to the drawing board.
Title: Re: Mary Hicks, death 1881 - 1891 Bexley Heath
Post by: carol8353 on Friday 26 August 11 16:38 BST (UK)
IF you have any idea of which Catholic church she would have been buried at,or what date her hubby died,perhaps you could check out his grave and see if she's in there too.

The usual method would be to locate her death cert first though  ;D

Carol
Title: Re: Mary Hicks, death 1881 - 1891 Bexley Heath
Post by: carol8353 on Friday 26 August 11 16:46 BST (UK)
I am looking for the death of Mary Hicks, born 1809, who was registered in Bexley Heath in 1881.
Her husband, Thomas, now a widower, was living with his son Edwin & family in Aldershot, Southampton. So she might have died in either place. She was a Catholic, which might help in the search.

The 1891 census where Thomas is living with his son Edwin and is aged 81 doesn't actually state that he's widowed.I see in 1881 that they have a son Arthur b Gravesend, aged 30 who is listed as an imbecilie.Can't see him in 1891- had he died,or is mum somwehere else looking after him?

Carol
Title: Re: Mary Hicks, death 1881 - 1891 Bexley Heath
Post by: Jonosue on Wednesday 26 February 20 16:57 GMT (UK)
Hi, it's a very long time since this post was started, but I have only just found it. I hope my input s of some use, nevertheless.
Mary Hicks was my great grandmother. She was born Mary Golding, in Andover, Hants, in 1809. Her parents were William Golding and Sarah Brooks. She married Thomas Hicks at St James's, Westminster, Picadilly, in 1833. I, too, have no date for her death.
You found Thomas in 1881, living as you say with his son Edwin (my grandfather). He died in 1892, in West Ham. The family were living in Windsor Rd, Forest Gate, West Ham, at this time. Edwin's wife Jane died there the following year.
St Anthony of Padua Catholic Church in West Ham seems to have been their church, and I know that Edwin was buried in St Patrick's Catholic Cemetery, Leytonstone, so maybe this woud be a good place to look for Mary, working on the theory that she and Thomas moved in with Edwin some time between 1871 and 1881 and that she died after the move. I should have thought of looking here earlier myself!
Please, if this reaches you, will you let me know if your research was ultimately successful?
Title: Re: Mary Hicks, death 1881 - 1891 Bexley Heath
Post by: carol8353 on Wednesday 26 February 20 22:47 GMT (UK)
Jonosue,weren't you the person who started this query on 21 August 11?

Others of us were only trying to help.

Glad that in the nearly 9 years since then ,that you have found some more info.

Carol
Title: Re: Mary Hicks, death 1881 - 1891 Bexley Heath
Post by: jonw65 on Thursday 27 February 20 00:24 GMT (UK)
Hope the OP gets back to you ;D

If you cross reference death registrations of Mary Hicks of approximately her sort of age after 1881, (and perhaps) especially before 1891, with those who were around in the 1881 census you could see what the chances are. The registration districts are the same of course. Most of the match ups could be provisionally eliminated (nothing is certain of course!)

One to consider perhaps?
March 1885 Gravesend 2a 338
Hicks, Mary
age 75

Not a vast distance from Bexley. That one was buried in March 1885, at Gravesend Cemetery.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QK17-P8JR

You can see the grave on Billion Graves. The inscription isn't particularly clear, but has been transcribed for us "Of your charity pray for the repose of the soul of MARY HICKS who died March 4th 1885 aged 75. Rest in peace"

Does that sound a bit catholic? :-\
Is she alone in that grave?

I see in 1881 that they have a son Arthur b Gravesend, aged 30

So they were familiar with the place!
Title: Re: Mary Hicks, death 1881 - 1891 Bexley Heath
Post by: groom on Thursday 27 February 20 11:28 GMT (UK)
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Hope the OP gets back to you ;D


Jonosue is the OP I think.  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Mary Hicks, death 1881 - 1891 Bexley Heath
Post by: carol8353 on Thursday 27 February 20 12:06 GMT (UK)
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Hope the OP gets back to you ;D


Jonosue is the OP I think.  ;D ;D

 ;D ;D  ;D
Title: Re: Mary Hicks, death 1881 - 1891 Bexley Heath
Post by: Jonosue on Sunday 01 March 20 15:14 GMT (UK)
Can't  believe I did that! Old age and dotage is obviously catching up with me faster than I thought!
Very sorry for my stupid mistake. And I was so e
excited to have found someone who was researching the same person as me! Der-brain or what???
Sue
Title: Re: Mary Hicks, death 1881 - 1891 Bexley Heath
Post by: jonw65 on Sunday 01 March 20 16:13 GMT (UK)
Hi
Don't worry about it!
I think Mary most probably died before 1891.
Edwin and his family including father Thomas must have moved to Windsor Road, Forest Gate, not long after the 1891 census.

Then those two deaths
Dec 1892 West Ham 4a 81
Hicks, Thomas   
age 82   

March 1893 West Ham 4a 85
Hicks, Jane Grice   
age 44   

Then later in 1893, the Westminster catholic census
1 Windsor Road, Forest Gate
Edwin Hicks, Salesman, Widower
Mary Hicks (over 21)
Thomas, 19, Vincent, 17, Nellie, 15, Lillie, 13, Teddie, 11, Leo, 7

Presuming that Mary is Edwin's daughter? She was age 19 in 1891, when they were in Aldershot.
Title: Re: Mary Hicks, death 1881 - 1891 Bexley Heath
Post by: Jonosue on Tuesday 03 March 20 15:37 GMT (UK)
Hello again,
Yes, Jane Grice Early was my great grandmother. And the Thomas who died the year before her was indeed 'my' Thomas. Edwin and Jane had 8 children, 2 of whom died in infancy, one became a nun andn another a priest. All the girls remained unmarried, and so my Grandfather was the only one to carry the name to the next generation!
My family research started with wanting to find out more about this side of the family, but they have remained elusive, while on my mother's side I have managed to trace back to my 11th great grandfather, which was a great surprise. One of these days, I will find out more about the Hicks's!

Thank you again for your help.