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Can anyone help me with information on The Anderson family in Ballyshannon.
In the 1901 census Thomas Anderson age 54, farmer and widower, lived at 14 in Legaltan (Ballyshannon Rural). On the census form are:-
Catherine Anderson 22
John Anderson 20
William D Anderson 18
Robert G Anderson 15 my husband's great Grandfather
Mary Irvine 55
In 1911 Robert G Anderson was living at 16 Mall Street, Ballyshannon, single, 25, Carpenter Master.
I would appreciate any information on any of the Anderson family.
Many thanks, Betty
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Hi Betty, Can't find any church records for the family but I see them in the Civil Registers for the Parish of Ballyshannon
Thomas Anderson married Catherine Moore in the third quarter 1878, daughter Catherine Elizabeth was born in the last quarter of the same year, may have been a shotgun wedding!
John Anderson followed in 1881, then William David in 1882 and finally Robert George in 1885, all registered in Ballyshannon CP
Think I see the death of Catherine in 1887 aged 37 also in the Civil register for Ballyshannon
Thomas Anderson died 1903 aged 59 registered ballyshannon
Also the possible death of daughter Catherine Anderson in 1958 same parish
Regards
Joe
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Wow Joe, now that's what I call service! Thank you so much for your help.
How do I go about ordering certificates from Ballyshannon? I think that is how I get back another generation. Anyway, thanks again.
Betty
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Hi Betty, I would start by buying the marriage Cert for Thomas and Catherine, it should contain parents names, apply to the General Register Office, Dublin here: http://www.groireland.ie/apply_for_a_cert.htm
Thomas Anderson = Catherine Moore 1878 Ballyshannon
here's a link to the record for Thomas on the LDS site:
https://www.familysearch.org/search/records#count=20&query=%2Bgivenname%3Athomas~%20%2Bsurname%3Aanderson~%20%2Bmarriage_place%
3ABallyshannon~%20%2Bmarriage_year%3A1878&collection_id=1408347
Regards
Joe
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Irish marriage certificates list fathers' names and occupations- mothers' details are not included.
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,433042.0.html
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I have information on Robert George Anderson, married (I think) July- Sept 1913. Children ****born 1914-1922
Does anyone have any information on who he married. The family all moved to Belfast, but I'm not sure when....but Robert's wife died and he remarried and had 3 more daughters, not sure of names and dates etc.
Thanks, Betty
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Hi Betty
He married Rebecca Jane Black 3rd Quarter 1913 index Vol 2 Page 9 Ballyshannon (CP)
Regards
Joe
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Many thanks, Betty
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Hi Betty
I am replying from Winnipeg, Canada to your message on the Anderson Family. My wife's Grandfather was William David Anderson, born Dec 14, 1882 to Thomas and Catherine Anderson. He married Nellie McGhee of Ballyshannon on Dec 15, 1909. They had a son Thomas (my wife's father) in 1911 (d-1987) and another son Robert in 1912 (d-1975). They sailed to Canada on Aug 10, 1913 arriving on Aug 18 at Quebec City. They took the train to Winnipeg, which is in the middle of the country to reach friends Willie McIntyre (also from Ballyshannon). They had 3 more children, Rebecca (Ruby) born in 1915 (d-2005), William David (everyone called him Bill) in 1918 (d-2007) and Lilian in 1921 (d-1993).
William David passed away in 1960 at age 77 and Nellie passed in 1963 at age 81
Thomas married in 1939 and had 4 children, *
Rebecca had 6 children, *
Bill had 3 children, *
Lillian had 3 children, *
My wife and I visited Ballyshannon in 2004 and got copies of the St, Anne parish (Church of England)records for the family including Robert George who married Rebecca Jane in 1913, They had 5 children, *
I'd love to send you copies of all our data and pictures of Ballyshannon and the Anderson's of Winnipeg. I have done some work on the Great Great Grandparents but it is hard to figure it all out but I can send you what I have.
We would love to hear from you and are looking forward to your reply.
Dave and Pat Mork
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Hi Betty
Did you ever get the marriage cert for Thomas and Catherine Anderson like Joe had suggested? If so, what were the parents names?
Based on what I could determine they were Thomas (b-1809/10, d-?) and Eliz(a) Allingham (b-1810, d-1885) married in 1835. They had at least 3 children, Thomas (b-1843, d-1903, Ann (d-1851,d-?), William (b-1854, d-?) I found this data under Richard Allingham info
I have also guessed at there parents being Thomas (b-1780, d-1834) and Elizabeth Earles (b-1785, d-1832) of Drumcliff, Sligo. They had 3 children Catherine (b-1808, d-?), Thomas (b-1809/10, d-?) and John (b-1812, d-?). I based it on the ages, names and the fact it fits the time frame.
I can't seem to find any records of deaths and/or burials which should be around Ballyshannon.
Dave
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"Did you ever get the marriage cert for Thomas and Catherine Anderson like Joe had suggested? If so, what were the parents names?"
As I stated earlier-
Irish marriage certificates list fathers' names and occupations- mothers' details are not included.
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,433042.0.html
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Apologies for not getting back to you sooner! I was so excited to get your post. My husbands grandfather was Robert George Anderson brother of William David and his mother was Kathleen. So she and your wife's father were cousins and your wife and my husband Trevor are second cousins, how exciting! We would love any info you have on the Anderson family as my search has been limited to what I have found online. What i found amazing that both William Anderson and Robert have named 4 of their 5 children the same names!
Robert and his wife Rebecca Jane moved to Belfast in Northern Ireland with their 5 children but she died in 1929 aged 44 leaving a young family.
Thank you for contacting me, Betty
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I was born in Ballyshannon but brought up in England
you can still excess the Ballyshannon site by going through google of ask jeeves
Type in the search box - Growing up in Ballyshannon, then look down the list for Paddy Donagher
1939/40 Electrol list Mabel and Mary Anderson living at THe Mall
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Thanks for the reply, Great Danagher website.
Do you have any idea what happened to Robert George's sister Kate or brother John? or where they might be buried?
Also where are Great Grandfather and Mother buried. There is a grave in Ballyshannon (St Anne Church I think) for a Catherine Moore Anderson (b-1906,d-1958) but the age and dates don't seem to match. It is also in the same gravesite as Alexander (b-1877, d-1950), George (b-1907, d-1959), Robert (b-1938, d-200) and Kathleen Anderson (b-1906, d-2000) These could be related based on the similiar first names. Dave
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I was updating my family history with your data that Rebecca Jane died in 1929 at age 44 but something doesn't add up. This would mean she was born in 1885.
1901 census there is a Rebecca Black born in 1883 and another Rebecca Jane Black born in 1895. In 1911 census there is a Rebecca Anderson age 28 married to John and Rebecca Jane age 16 in Londonderry living with her Dad and Brother John William working as a book keeper.
I would assume the Rebecca Jane age 16 is the same one that returned to Ballyshannon in 1913 at age 18 to marry Robert George. She would have been only 34 in 1929 when she died
Dave
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Hi
Rebecca Jane Black married Robert George Anderson July-Sept 1913. According to the Familysearch website she was born Apr-June 1882 and I found her death at the general records office in Belfast.
On the 1911 census Robert George Anderson was living at 16 Mall Street, Ballyshannon, single, aged 25, Carpenter Master.
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I think Rebecca Jane is on the 1901/1911 census daughter of William and Kate Black.
Catherine Anderson is on the 1911 census as Katie and is living with David and Nellie Anderson and their son Thomas at 16 Legaltan (Ballyshannon)
according to a previous post she died in 1958 aged 80!
I couldn't find John on the 1911 census.
I have no further info and no one to ask! I will at some stage make the trip to Ballyshannon!
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The Katie Anderson you refer to is a sister of Trevors great Grandfather. She was born Nov 8-9, 1878. She is also known as Kate which is the name in the church register.
some info from the church records
Thomas Anderson married Catherine Moore on Aug 7, 1878
Kate was born Nov 8-9, 1878, John was born Jan 2, 1881, William David was born Dec 14, 1882 and Robert George was born on July 13, 1885
In the 1901 census the daughter Kate is at home but as Catherine. The mother had died in 1887. In the 1911 census they have moved from 14 Legaltan to #16. Kate is home but the father is gone (died in 1903) and so is John and Robert George (you indicated they moved to Belfast) . The house at #16 is now occupied by William David, his wife Nellie and new son Thomas. Also Katie (Kate) and boarders Mary Irving and John McClay. Unfortunately I only wrote down some info on Robert George family. I believe all the children were baptized in St. Anne Church
of interest: William David and Nellie McGhee were married Dec 15, 1909 and I believe Robert George was "Best Man" as he signed the register as a witness as did Nellie's sister Martha
Dave
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In the 1901 census the daughter Kate is at home but as Catherine. The mother had died in 1887. In the 1911 census they have moved from 14 Legaltan to #16. Kate is home but the father is gone (died in 1903) and so is John and Robert George (you indicated they moved to Belfast) . The house at #16 is now occupied by William David, his wife Nellie and new son Thomas. Also Katie (Kate) and boarders Mary Irving and John McClay.
Be aware that the numbers shown on transcribed census page are the numbers given by the enumerators for that particular census and it's possible the family were actually in the same house in both 1901 and 1911. For most places the only 'address' was the townland- it was only cities and towns that would have used street names and house numbers. You can look at the other census information available to see how many rooms the house had, etc.
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Legaltan come under Kilbarron parish
http://freepage.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~donegal
see next post
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sorry missed a S out
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~donegal
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Thanks Rathmore
The sign in front of the church in Aug 2004 read
Church of Ireland
Diocese of Raphoe
Parish of Kilbarron
It is also refered to St. Anne's Church of Ireland on the internet
Question: Is there any other old Church of Ireland gravesites in the Ballyshannon area? I can't find any graves for the Anderson's relatives that died 1850 to 1905
Dave
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I purchased the following small book in Donegal Town in 2004 which might be of interest to people who want info on Ballyshannon including the area 1901 and 1911 census, some maps and some history, etc.
DONEGAL
BALLYSHANNON FAMILY ROOTS
EXPLORING FAMILY ORIGINS IN BALLYSHANNON
published by
Noel Farrel
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We have just received a lovely package from Winnipeg (Mark and Pat) with lots of information on the Anderson family, many many thanks!
Happy New Year to all Rootschat members and I would like to thank everyone who has helped me progress my family tree.
Betty
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Trying again on this thread of the Anderson Family!
John Anderson, son of Thomas, was 20 in the 1901 Census, but I can't find him on the 1911 census. did he die before 1911 or did he marry and leave the area, did he emigrate like like his brother William did in 1913?
I would appreciate any help in finding more info on John,
Betty
Moderator Note: link to 1901 census entry:
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Donegal/Ballyshannon_Rural/Legaltan/1165726
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on the ballyshannon site under St. Anne's chuch of ireland
Florinda Anderson died 10.1.1917 age 70
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PRONI lists the Will of John's father- perhaps it would indicate where John is (or if he's dead):
"Probate of the Will of Thomas Anderson late of Legaltion Ballyshannon County Donegal Farmer who died 2 August 1903 granted at Londonderry to Thomas Morrow Farmer and Andrew N. Anderson Merchant."
see www.proni.gov.uk
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Many thanks Rathmore, I'm not sure if Florinda is one of our Andersons.
Thanks Aghadowey, I never even thought of checking for a Will.
Betty
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I've looked up Will and checked out Thomas Morrow, who appeared to live close by according to the Census 1901/1911 in Legaltan.
Andrew N. Anderson (Nixon) is 37 in 1901 Census a farmer and a grocer in Ballyshannon. Can anyone help me with the connection to Thomas. Is Andrew a son or a brother, again any help would be much appreciated.
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Andrew Nixon Anderson is the son of Alexander Anderson & Fanny Anne Nixon- see www.familysearch.org
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Many thanks Aghadowey, I found that info plus parents marriage, but I've no idea what the connection is......I really appreciate all the help from the Rootschat family!
Betty
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on the donegal resource site I gave you under Kilbarron
13.8.1822 at Ballyshannon Church, Rev. Mr Brandon married at Mr. John Anderson of Farmhill near Silgo to Miss C. Davis of Ballyshannon
if you go on this site under Inch Parish lots of Anderson mentioned including a Thomas
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Thank you Rathmore for trying to get me information on the Anderson family. I have just spent today at PRONI in Belfast and returned home cross eyed looking at Microfiche of Ballyshannon churches. I've taken note of a lot of information, I just need to sort through it now.
The John Anderson I'm looking for was 20 on the 1901 census, so for now I'll keep on searching!
Many thanks, Betty
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Have you been in touch with any of the Anderson's still living in and around Ballyshannon
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No....I didnt think of that, I'm not sure how to go about finding Andersons still living there!
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Trying again with the Anderson family....
After a day at PRONI I need to revise my information on the Anderson family.
Thomas Anderson married Catherine Moore on the 31 July 1878 in Ballyshannon,
His father was John Anderson, policeman and her father was William Moore, a farmer Legaltin. Witnessed by Lizzie Jane Anderson and George Patton.
I would appreciate any information on John Anderson and family and William Moore and his family.
Many thanks, Betty
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Update to The Anderson Family, Ballyshannon
John Anderson (farmer of Tullyhurk)married Elizabeth Curry (Currie) not sure of date, but before 1846. He died before 1884. Does anyone know his date of marriage and death?
John born 5.5.1846 He moved to Australia and married Mary McComb (family originally from Londonderry) 24/1/1871 in Brisbane. He died 3/5/1921 and Mary died 9/7/1935.
William David born 25.12.1851 married Ellen Woodward 21/5/1872, her father was William Woodward. Any further info would be appreciated.
Eliza Jane born 6.10.1856 was a witness to the marriage of Thomas Anderson along with George Patton on the 8/8/1878. She moved to Australia after that, not sure of date, and married Arthur H. Harrison 24/3/1884 she died 1937.
Thomas Anderson (Tulyhurk) not sure of date of birth married Catherine Moore of Legaltan, her father was William Moore a farmer.
I would appreciate any further information or confirmation on the above.
Many thanks, Betty
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Thomas Anderson (Tulyhurk) not sure of date of birth married Catherine Moore of Legaltan, her father was William Moore a farmer.
Daughter Catherine Elizabeth (1878) https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FGGR-XM7
Son John (1881) https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FPTH-GF8
Same family in 1901-
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Donegal/Ballyshannon_Rural/Legaltan/1165726
"Probate of the Will of Thomas Anderson late of Legaltion Ballyshannon County Donegal Farmer who died 2 August 1903 granted at Londonderry to Thomas Morrow Farmer and Andrew N. Anderson Merchant." see www.proni.gov.uk
Anderson family in 1911-
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Donegal/Ballyshannon/Legaltan/476421
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Many thanks for the information, Betty
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Hi
I've just found this chat. I have just started to research my family tree and this conversation has been extremely useful to it. I realise this chat was 2011/2013.
For Betty - My mum is the eldest daughter of Robert George Anderson with his 2nd marriage to Sarah Jane Rush. They married on 17th June 1935 in Hillhall Presbyterian Church. They had 3 girls who are my mum Margaret and my 2 aunts Evelyn and Jeanette.
On my grandfathers marriage certificate to my granny Sarah, his father Thomas was named on it - does that mean he was still alive at approx 88 or was the grooms fathers name put on the certificate for another reason? There was mention he died in 1903 so wondering why.
Thanks
Hope that helps a wee bit with regard to the Anderson family who moved to Belfast.
Sharon
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On my grandfathers marriage certificate to my granny Sarah, his father Thomas was named on it - does that mean he was still alive at approx 88 or was the grooms fathers name put on the certificate for another reason? There was mention he died in 1903 so wondering why.
Father's name and occupation are listed on Irish marriage certificate but unless 'deceased' in included in that box then there is no indication of whether alive or dead.
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Thanks for clearing that up.
Sharon
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Hi
Has any one got information on the children of Robert Anderson and his first wife Rebecca Black? My mum can't remember now much about her step family.
Thanks in advance
Sharon
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Hi Sharon
My husband is also a grandson of Robert George Anderson.
I have now quite a detailed Anderson family history. If you pm me your email address I will send you a link to all info on my family tree.
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Hi Sharon from Canada
If Betty doesn't give you the Canada info please let me know and I can send a package of info. William David, Robert George's brother moved to Canada in 1913. William David is my wife's grandfather
Dave
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Hi Dave in Canada
Betty's website has been a real source of information about the Anderson's family. Its been an interesting few weeks piecing together the family tree and where relatives names that I have a very vague memory of fit in.
Any other information from yourself would be most welcome.
Sharon
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I have not been on this site for ages, so forgive me for chiming in rather late on this thread. I am also researching an Anderson family of Ballyshannon. I don't know whether there is any connection with yours. I have Lowry Anderson b.ca 1806 married Elizabeth Thompson on 29 Jan 1834 in Parish of Kilbarron. Lowry died in 1847 and Elizabeth in 1877. Both were buried in Drumholm Graveyard.
Their children were all baptised in Kilbarron:
William 1834 - nothing else known
John 1836, died 1843, buried Drumholm Graveyard
Richard 1838, died 1854, buried Drumholm Graveyard
Eliza Jane 1839, died 1864 in Adelaide, South Australia
Lowry Murray 1842. (My GGF) died 1921 in Western Australia
John 1844, died 1925 Victoria, Australia
Florinda 1846, died 1917, buried in St Anne's Church of Ireland graveyard, Ballyshannon
I would love to find Lowry's parents as well as any possible connections with other Anderson families in Ballyshannon.
I have often been told that the only way to make any progress is to go to Ireland. I finally have a chance to go there a bit later this year. I wonder if anyone can recommend any particular places I should go to access records which are not available online.
Many thanks for any suggestions.
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Hi, Sharon and Betty.
I am a newcomer to this site and excited to find out so much family information!
I am a granddaughter of Catherine ("Kate") (Anderson) Buchanan, planning my first trip to Ireland in early May and hoping to get more information about the family.
By the way, I have a sampler cross-stitched by Catherine Moore, with her name on it, undated. It's framed and hanging in my home.
VG
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Hi VG
I am Dave from Winnipeg married to the grand daughter of William David Anderson who was your grandmothers brother. Your grand parents actually lived with them (David William and Nellie Anderson) in Winnipeg after they were married. Your Grandparents also lived in Winnipeg for a number of years and your mother? and Aunts were born here.
I can send you a complete history of the Anderson relatives in Winnipeg and Canada if you can send me your email or mailing address via message service. Betty and Sharon can give you the info on Andersons over in Ireland and Scotland.
Looking forward to hearing from you
Dave
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Thanks for your message, Dave. It's great to make contact with you! I would very much like to receive the family information you have. I'll send you my email address.
My mother was Bella Anderson, born in San Francisco in 1915. Is there any information you would like about the California branch of the family?
VG
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Civil Reg Birth, Marriage and Death results for Anderson of Ballyshannon
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01lvd/