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Research in Other Countries => Other Countries => Topic started by: m_m on Saturday 17 September 11 09:36 BST (UK)
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Hi everyone,
I'm new to this site so hope I'm posting this in the correct place. I am trying to find some marriage information. I was doing quite well with my research until I hit a stumbling block with the marriage of an uncle to a lady from India. It is possible that my aunt 'anglicised' her name to make it easier for us to pronounce, but, because I don't know what her real name or maiden name was I cannot find their marriage certificate. I have my uncle's death certificate and my aunt's name is on there but it does not show her maiden name. I know my uncle travelled to India as I found his name on a ships passenger list, and, from memory I know he lived there with his wife for a few years before they both came to live in England. Can anyone give me any advice on where to look next please?
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Any idea when the marriage might have taken place?
Did they have any children? birth certificates will show mother's maiden name
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Hi aghadowey, no there were no children and I don't have a specific year for the marriage. The ships passenger list shows that my uncle travelled on the ship 'Chusan' on 1st October 1960, but I don't know if my aunt and uncle had already met and married. Plus, I was always led to believe my uncle had been a policeman in India, but I've discovered he was a security officer - so some misleading information and it hasn't helped with my research.
Thank you for such a quick response to my question. :)
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H,
Gro records are available for British Nationals Overseas marriages and references are available at www.findmypast.co.uk.
Was his surname Houghton by any chance? (only security officer i could find aboard the Chusan October 1960)
Cathy :)
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Hi cath151, wow! Another fast response, thank you. Yes, my uncle's surname was Houghton. I'm a member of findmypast but I've had no luck with finding any information on this particular marriage. The stumbling block is definitely not knowing my aunt's (possible) real first name and last name. I believe they were married though - they wouldn't dare be anything else where his father was concerned as he was strict Roman Catholic. I've been looking through India's immigration/emigration records but still having no luck. Maybe if I write to the Indian embassy they may be able to help, otherwise I'll just concentrate on the rest of my relatives and come back to this later. I would like to solve the problem now though.
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I expect you ve found it but the only marriage on FindMyPast in Indian Subcontinent is the one in Nowshera in 1933 for a W H Houghton but his brides name is very English.
Could he have been born a W H?
Cathy
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Hi cath151, I don't think my uncle had another initial but I don't have his birth certificate at the moment. According to my uncle's death certificate he had only one first name. His wife's name was Donna (with a possible middle name or surname of Esta but I'm not completely sure of this). Thank you very much for your help, it is very much appreciated.
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Hi again,
If you look on www.familysearch.org there is a Nestar Dona Maximano born 29 Sep 1905 in Bengal which would match the birth date given on the death reg of Donna in 1987.
Cathy
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Thank you very much - I've been searching under 'Donna' including variants but it didn't show anything for me. I was under the impression my aunt was born in Calcutta. I will take a look now and once again - thank you, I really do appreciate your help.
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Cathy, if there was an 'applause' smiley I would be using it right now. I did not think I would get any answers in such a short time, but, it looks like you've found in a few hours, the information I've been trying to find for months. The information you've posted appears to be my aunt and not only that, but, I now have extra information on Dona/ Donna's parents. Well done. :)
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:)
you re welcome, sometimes it takes another pair of eyes. Doesn t answer your origional post about the marriage unfortunately but good hunting!
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Not that this helps find Nesta’s marriage do you know if she had any siblings?
Sybil Mary Maximano
bn 21/10/1900 bapt. 2/12/1900 St Patrick's, Ft. William Bengal
parents Bono & Cecilia Alice
death Bonofasco Maximano burial 17/2/1939 age 80 (1859)
see link below just enter surname click search
http://indiafamily.bl.uk/UI/AdvanceDiscovery.aspx
possibly other children (familysearch.org )
parents Bonifacio & Cecilia
Agnes Clara 6/10/1889 bapt. 4/12/1889 Howrah Bengal India
married age 17 William Joseph Alban 30/4/1907 Calcutta Bengal India f. Justo Alban
Anastasia Angelina 2/8/1895 bapt. 24/9/1895 Howrah
Virginia Emilia 4/9/1898 bapt. 14/10/1898 Howrah
Maud Margaret age 16 (1892) f. Boniface Maximano
married 26/6/1908 Howrah Bengal India
Norman Sayres age 21 f. William
Sybil Mary age 15 f. Bonifaco Maximano
Married 12/1/1916 Calcutta Bengal India
George Alexander Catwell age 33 f. James Thomas Catwell
Cecelia death on familysearch.org
14/3/1914 burial 15/3/1914 Calcutta Bengal
Bonifaco remarried
Bonifacio Maximano age 60 (1859) widowed father Claro Maximano
Married 22/2/1919 Howrah Bengal
Myrtle Mercer age 19 father William
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Hi Ladyhawk, I was very young when I first got to know my aunt and it wasn't something I would have thought about asking. I wish I'd known her better, but they moved to London for a while, then my uncle died, I have one letter from Donna to my mother and father when her husband died and she was absolutely devastated, my father died a few months after my uncle, as far as I know, she didn't keep in touch with my side of the family .
I did try to work out from the site if Donna had any brothers or sisters but I think I'll try to find out when, where, if, the marriage ever took place. I'd be very surprised if my uncle was willing to brave the wrath of his father by not marrying. ;)
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I believe my grandmothers grandmother is maud margaret maximano - currently trying to determine what happened to her mother (maud's daughter) audrey alma sayers, if this post is not too old and you have any information that may be useful please reply to this, many thanks
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I believe my grandmothers grandmother is
maud margaret maximano
currently trying to determine what happened to her mother (maud's daughter)
audrey alma sayers,
if this post is not too old and you have any information that may be useful please reply to this, many thanks
Hello Lauralil
m_m has not posted on Rootschat since 18 September 11
if their email is still active they will receive notification of your post and hopefully will get back to you
At the moment this is all I can find
Audrey Alma Sayers born 1918 Bengal Calcutta
Do you know if Audrey married?
Don't give the full names of anyone known to be living?
A sibling of Audrey’s
Dorothy Phyllis Sayers
born 9 Aug 1913 bpt 28th Aug The Old Mission church Calcutta
Parents Norman Samuel occ Railway Foreman & Maude Margaret Sayers
Abode Saidpur
She married age 24 to M E Leavers age 27 in India 1937 Jamshedpur Bengal
British India Office Ecclesiastical Returns - Marriages
Marriages after 1930 - In compliance with data protection laws fewer details and no images are available for marriages dating to after 1930.
Full details are available to researchers who visit the British Library in person.
Maud Margaret Maximano age 17 years 32 Cullen Place Hourah Calcutta
father Bonafacio
Married 26 June 1908 Lal Basar Baptist Chapel Calcutta
Norman Samuel Sayers age 21 Gunner 21 Chandy Shul Calcutta father William
Witnessed by Edwin P Calder & N J Riddle
possible baptism India Norman 1887
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FG7R-1RP
Cecilia Maximano died age 45yrs 7mths
14 Mar 1914 Calcutta, Lower Circular Road, Bengal
Bonofasco Maximano died age 80
17 Feb 1939 Calcutta Bengal
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Hi again Lauralil I see from your other post Audrey did marry - have added the link here
as not to duplicate any info.
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=692575.0
Have searched here British India Office Deaths & Burials 1709-1965 not seeing a death
nor a marriage/s on British India Office Marriages 1713-1969 for Audrey ???
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Hi Ladyhawk and Lauralil,
I was just looking thought my e-mails and found the one referring to this subject. I'd just about given up hope of ever finding anything else out about my Aunt Donna then read this forum thread again. I'm afraid I still haven't found any information at all about my aunt and uncle's marriage, however, I do now have a copy of the ships passenger list where my uncle was returning to India around 1960 (ish) - I don't have the information in front of me for the exact date. If this helps Lauralil at all - and it's not much - I do remember my aunt talking about a nephew she often visited. My aunt and uncle were then living in Wimbledon, London so I'm guessing the nephew lived near to them. Could the nephew be the son of Maud Margaret Maximano and if that's the case did Maud Margaret move to England around the same time as my aunt Nestar Dona Maximano (Donna)?
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Hi
I have just realised now that you have responded to my post and may i apologise for the very very late response, i have put together what i believe to be quite a large family tree within the ancestry page that i am registered on. Still no further forward with additional information on Audrey Sayers though. Have you managed to find any more information yourself on your aunt? Am i correct in thinking that you will be a distant relation of my grandmother? It gets very confusing branching out a family tree and determining how everyone is related!!
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following this thread with great interest.
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Hi
I have just realised now that you have responded to my post and may i apologise for the very very late response, i have put together what i believe to be quite a large family tree within the ancestry page that i am registered on. Still no further forward with additional information on Audrey Sayers though. Have you managed to find any more information yourself on your aunt? Am i correct in thinking that you will be a distant relation of my grandmother? It gets very confusing branching out a family tree and determining how everyone is related!!
Ha - you thought your reply was late! My apologies to you Lauralil. I am still researching my aunt and uncle's marriage! I may never find the answer but I think my last resort may be the army as it seems my uncle was in the army during WWII. However, to answer your question I am not a blood relative of my aunt as she married my dad's brother.
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My father is Norman sayers, my grandad is Vivian sayers son of Norman and maud maximano.