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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Offaly (Kings) => Topic started by: Sharon Romany on Tuesday 20 September 11 18:15 BST (UK)
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Hi I'm just starting to research my family Name of Fleming,my deceased father John Fleming was born in county offerly on the 22nd June 1921,his parents were Elizabeth and James Fleming,he had several brothers Matthew, Gerald,James,Joseph,Patrick, William,and a few sisters Lucenda,Mary,Lily,all of whom are also deceased only one sister living, anyone researching the Fleming name with any of the above info will be glad to correspond.
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Do you have a birth cert for John ?
This would show his place of birth and Elizabeth's maiden name, which would help locate a marriage of James and Elizabeth and take you a step further back..
Shane
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Hi Shane thankyou for the reply,I had my cousin get me the certificate yesterday as he lives in Clare,it shows my gran as Lizzie Fleming formerly Byrne,ive since been told that my gran parents were married on the 30th Sept 1916 at St Brigets church Clara,so hopefully im going to get a good start.I dont really know anything of my grans family Byrne but maybe this will also give me a lead.
thanks again.
sajellybean
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Headstone records from the Monastery cemetery Clara;
Margaret Fleming; Church Road Clara
1/1/1961
father- Matthew
29/8/1998 (80)
Geraldine Patrica Fleming; 21 Marian Sq Clara
26/11/1973 (8 mts)
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Eamon Fleming; New Road Clara
18/3/1965 (35)
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Annie Fleming; Kilcoursey
31/5/1972 (77)
husband-Thomas;
9/2/1978 (79)
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William Byrne; Erry Clara
9/2/1959
wife-Elizabeth;
17/10/1963
(erected by Lena Neary)
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Jack
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Hi Seanmac, I think the first two on the list are to do with my family but not sure of the others as yet,my gran Elizabeth (Lizzie) Byrne I knew very well when I was a child she visited often but unfortunately I never ever heard any of the family speak of the Byrne's my Great gran parents but I quess il be digging now.Thanks for your bit of research.
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Hi all, I am seeking any information on a Joseph Fleming who married Mary Lay on 8th July 1788 in White Colne, Essex UK. On the 3rd December, 1789 Joseph joined the New South Wales Corp. He was promoted to Sergeant in January 1790. They arrived on Australian soil, as part of the Third Fleet, on the ship “William and Ann” on the 28th August 1791.
Does any one have these Flemings in their families?
Cheers
Joan
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Hi Joan ..... not sure if I can help.
I have a "David" Fleming in my tree who married Sarah Brown 22 Feb 1859 at Parramatta and Sarah died at Tamworth 27 Feb 1912.
I can only assume/strongly at this stage that Alan was a descendant of David.
Joan I have corrected my earlier post it was David Fleming not Alan and I am looking through old detail relating to Sarah Brown to see what turns up.
Joe
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Hi Joe
We have been told that some of our Flemings were at Tamworth. Cora Fleming's family were there or so the story goes. Not sure though. Cora's Father was Prosper Fleming and he was the son of George Fleming. They were at some stage at MacDonald River. Do not know if we have an Alan and Sarah but will keep looking. Thank you for your message. If you know of any of these Flemings please let me know. My site is at.. http://www.safeandsoundstorage.com.au/familytree/gray/fleming/fleming.html
Cheers
Joan
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Have just turned this up from my old records;
4 F Sarah BROWN wife 2
Born/4/1841 Campbelltown
Christen 26/12/1841 Catholic Church, Campbelltown
Died 27/2/1912 Armidale Road, Tamworth
Buried 28/2/1912 Catholic Cemetery, Tamworth
Spouse David FLEMING
Married 22/2/1859 Church of Scotland, Parramatta
Husband David FLEMING
Born Circa 1818 London
Christen 31/7/1818 St Botolph, Bishopgate, London ENGLAND
Died 9/11/1884 Sydney Street, Muswellbrook
Buried 10/11/1884 Catholic Cemetery, Muswellbrook
Occupation Painter & Glazier
Father William FLEMING Mother Hannah
Children
1 H David FLEMING
Born 3/9/1859 Albert Street, Parramatta
Died 31/1/1945 Muswellbrook, HSW
Buried/2/1945 Catholic Cemetery, Muswellbrook
Spouse Margaret Isabella REILLY
Married 21/6/1886 Catholic Church, Muswellbrook
2 M Henry FLEMING
Born 1861 Parramatta HSW
Died 23/5/1926 Tamworth
Buried 24/5/1926 Catholic Cemetery, Tamworth
Occupation Policeman, Butcher, Publican and Pig Farmer
Spouse Adelaide McKENZIE
Married 1902 Tamworth NSS
Spouse Eliza A PETERSQN
Married 1920 Tamworth
3 M Richard FLEMING
Born 9/12/1863 Falbrook, Singleton
Died 19/8/1872 Muswellbrook,
Buried/8/1872 Catholic Cemetery, Muswellbrook
4 F Sarah Jane FLEMING
Born 12/5/1866 Glennies Creek, Camberwell
Christen 26/11/1869 St Mary's Catholic Church, Newcastle
Died 29/5/1872 Hunters Terrace, Muswellbrook
Buried 30/5/1872 Catholic Cemetery, Muswellbrook
5 F Hannah FLEMING
Born 1872 Hunters Terrace, Muswellbrook
Died 5/3/1910 Private Hospital, Best Tamworth
Buried/3/1910 Catholic Cemetery, Tamworth
Husband's Notes
Wife 1 Harriett HENDLEY
Born Circa 1821 Cork, IRELAND
Died 28/8/1858 Albert Street, Parramatta
Buried 30/8/1858 St Patrick's Catholic Cemetery, Parramatta
Children
1 M William J FLEMING
Born 1846 Parramatta
Christen 1846
Died -
Buried -
2 F Anne FLEMING
Born 1848 Parramatta NSW
Christen 1848 St Patrick's Catholic Church, Parramatta
Died -
Buried -
3 F Harriet FLEMING
Born 1856 Parramatta
Christen St Patrick's Catholic Church, Parramatta
Died 1856 Parramatta HSW
Buried 1856
I do hope it is useful.
Joe
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Thank you Joe,
I have been going through all the info you sent but so far have found no connection, but, that is not to say there is not one. Could be going back to the UK but I have to find the origin of my Fleming family there first.
Thanks once again and I will keep looking.
Cheers
Joan
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Best of luck Joan :) :)........ just keep looking.
Joe
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Hi just reading through the details.
My mother was born in Clara, County Offaly 1940's, her birth name being Bridget Byrne. My Maternal Grandmother, her mother was Kathleen Byrne and my mother was born illegitimate.
Kathleen once the child was born, was sent to England in 1947ish, my mother remained and was cared for by her maternal grandmother who's surname was Coughlan/Coughlin. When my mother was 3 she and her Grandmother moved to a farm cottage on a farm owned by the Fleming family in Ballycumber. There were a lot of male children of the Flemings I have been told, I am wondering whether this is the same Fleming Family that are connected to you?
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Welcome to RootsChat :)
….my deceased father John Fleming was born in county offerly on the 22nd June 1921,his parents were Elizabeth and James Fleming….
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1921/01175/1489891.pdf
….he had several brothers Matthew, Gerald,James,Joseph,Patrick, William….
Mathew Fleming 1918
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1918/01287/1533540.pdf
Michael James Fleming 1919
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1919/01231/1512272.pdf
Marriage 30 September 1916 - James Fleming & Elizabeth Byrne
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1916/09796/5556683.pdf
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Are you saying James and Elizabeth were the farming family in Ballycumber?
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Are you saying James and Elizabeth were the farming family in Ballycumber?
No, James and Elizabeth after their marriage were living at Erry (Armstrong) townland just outside Clara town. It's where Mathew was born and James probably worked in Clara as a factory hand. Michael James also born there.
https://www.townlands.ie/offaly/kilcoursey/kilbride/clara/erry-armstrong/
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When my mother was 3 she and her Grandmother moved to a farm cottage on a farm owned by the Fleming family in Ballycumber.
Fleming in 1901 census in Ballycumber.
House 5 in Ballycumber (Ballycumber, King's Co.).
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/King_s_Co_/Ballycumber/Ballycumber/1462330/
Also House 19 in Ballycumber Town (Ballycumber, King's Co.).
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/King_s_Co_/Ballycumber/Ballycumber_Town/1462480/
No Flemings in Ballycumber in 1911 census.
Ballycumber townland
https://www.townlands.ie/offaly/garrycastle/lemanaghan/ballycumber/ballycumber/