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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Ayrshire => Topic started by: whiteheather on Friday 23 September 11 20:00 BST (UK)
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Does anyone know of Wotherspoons from Kilbirnie or Ardrossan
from Heather
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What is the timescale involved?
Are you sure the surname is Wotherspoon?
The 1861 census has a family called Wetherspoon in Kilbirnie headed by James & Margaret who were both b Glasgow
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The Caledonian Mercury and Daily Express, Dec 2, 1859
BIRTHS
At Glengarnock Ironworks, Kilbirnie, on the 28th ult, Mrs James Wotherspoon of a son
regards
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hi all :)
the IGI has robert wotherspoon born 28th nov. 1859 kilbirnie ayr
parents james wortherspoon and margaret waddell
there is also a florida death for robert d wortherspoon 7th aug. 1934 with those parents but his birth date is given as 23rd april 1859 ayrshire :-\
ev
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Hi All the wotherspoons are either from Ardrossan or Kilbrirnie, they worked in the Iron Works in Kilbirnie and when another Iron Foundry was build in Stevenston they moved to Ardrossan, they are all my family but I am looking for one in particular her name being Annie Wotherspoon, daughter of Thomas Wotherspoon and Jean Fyfe, I have the marriage cert. of Annie's marriage to Benjamin Spence, but I dont know where he was born, all I know that his parents were John Spence and Ann louisa Brown
Heather
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her name being Annie Wotherspoon, daughter of Thomas Wotherspoon and Jean Fyfe, I have the marriage cert. of Annie's marriage to Benjamin Spence, but I dont know where he was born, all I know that his parents were John Spence and Ann louisa Brown
When was that marriage and how old were Annie and Benjamin at that time
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I think this is the family in 1901:
Annie Spence 38, head b. Kilbirnie
John Spence 12
Thomas Spence 9
Benjamin Spence 7
Marion Spence 4
Address: 2 Blythswood Drive Paisley
Have you looked at this entry, Heather? Was Annie a widow by now?
Monica
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From the IGI
http://www.familysearch.org/eng/search/frameset_search.asp?PAGE=igi/search_IGI.asp&clear_form=true
THOMAS WOTHERSPOON Spouse: JEAN FIFE Marriage: 11 APR 1865 Kilbirnie, Ayr
The following children are shown but no Annie. All in Ardrossan except John
Submitted entries
Maggie - 1877 Ardrossan
Hugh - 1880
Extracted records
Marion b 12.12.1868
James b 2.4.1874
John b 11.7.1865 Dalry
Thomas b 4.9.1871
Janet b 7.12.1866
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looks like the marriage of thomas and jean was in 1865 kilbirnie
looking at the children i'm wondering if annie could be marion b. 1868 ardrossan ayr :-\
ev
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Maybe Ann born before marriage. IGI entry on 16 May 1862 Kilbirnie - Ann Fyfe to mother Jean Fyfe...
Monica
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Elusive Benjamin Spence! From 1891:
Annie Spence 27, wife b. Kilbirnie
John Spence 2
Address: 2 Wellington Pl, Paisley
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1871 census indexed as Witherspoon - Marion and Annie both shown
Thomas Witherspoon 28 b Rutherglen, Lanarkshire iron moulder
Jean 27 b Kilbirnie
Annie 8 ditto
John 5 b Dalry
Janet 4 b Ardrossan
Marion Witherspoon 2 ditto
Ardrossan ED 1 Page 11 Line 1
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Is this your post Heather
http:///boards/your-family-history-brickwalls/24719-benjamin-west-spence-2.html
Key points from this:
Benjamin West Spence.
Father John Spence, a general merchant (dec.) in St. Vincent's West Indies and mother both show as deceased at the time of the marriage.
Marriage date 3rd July 1885, his age was 24
Death for Benjamin 1898?
Lots more info there....
Monica
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:-\ Can't get the URL to copy over due to a block.
A search of "benjamin west spence" +ancestry aid will bring it up.
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That is a really interesting link!! can't get it to copy either but here are 2 extracts
Looks like he WAS born in St Vincent's
Name: Benjamin Spence Estimated Birth Year: abt 1862 Age: 19 Port of Departure: Glasgow Port of Arrival: Sydney, New South Wales Voyage Arrival Date: 14 May 1881 Vessel Name: City Of Benares Origin Location: St Vincent
and a reply from Whiteheather
We think he could have been, he has no death cert as he drowned when his merchant ship sank, the one who died in 1998 was not a member of our family, as my father died last year in luton, he was also Benjamin west Spence, his father with the same name died in Ardrossan Ayrshire, in 1959, his father with the same name is the one who drowned and who we are looking for
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Hi Linda v, good to know somebody else if looking for the same thing, I am a member of every site there is connected to St. Vincents, and nobody has come up yet with anything, where in scotland are your people from? mine are from Paisley, just wondering if there is a connection as my family must have gone out there about the same time
heather
Looks like we are on the same track :)
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Annie was born out of marriage but then they got married later and went on to have more children. The 1901 census was correct but the husband Benjamin was dead by this time, he drowned when his boat went down of the Isle of Man in 1894, it is his birth cert. I am looking for Scotland People dont have it, and of course there is no death cert as he was never found, on his marriage cert to annie in 1885 it stated that his parents were deceased Benjamin was only 24 so something must have happened to the parents, the father John was a merchant in St. Vincednt's West Indies, but they have nothing of either the parents marriage or benjamins birth
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From the other forum post - there seems to be a thought that he was born in St Vincent - not Scotland
This is from your own reply to one of those suggestions
I know that when he married annie wotherspoon in July 1885 he joined the ship strathblane and sailed to sydney from glasgow in Nov. 1885, it stated on the crew list that he was from st. Vincent's although the rest of the crew were from Scotland and Ireland,
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As you can see I have tried everywhere but to no avail, its as if they have dissappeared of the face of the earth, its very annoying as the Benjamin and Annie are my gr grandparents but I can find nothing on his birth or his parents
Heather
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It would appear that Benjamin was a mariner so will not necessarily appear on a census. His father was born St Vincent and there is no proof that either of his parents ever lived in Scotland
Perhaps Benjamin met Annie when his ship docked - he seems to have made several voyages from Scotland
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That is what I thought, but the family says that they came from Scotland to begin with, I thought if I could find a Wotherspoon that was doing the family tree, they might have to answer
Heather
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Does anyone know of Wotherspoons from Kilbirnie or Ardrossan
from Heather
That is what I thought, but the family says that they came from Scotland to begin with, I thought if I could find a Wotherspoon that was doing the family tree, they might have to answer
Heather