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Title: Lewis BRAGANZA
Post by: McGreevy on Saturday 08 October 11 06:47 BST (UK)

Hi

I am doing some research on soldiers in the Great War and am having trouble with Lewis Braganza or Louis. He died in 1916 while a prisoner of war.

Thank you for your help.

McG
Title: Re: Lewis Braganza
Post by: CassT on Saturday 08 October 11 06:51 BST (UK)
Hi

have you checked the WW1 Information on the Australia archives, there is a file for Louis Braganaza

http://recordsearch.naa.gov.au/scripts/Imagine.asp?B=3111048

Cass
Title: Re: Lewis Braganza
Post by: AMBLY on Saturday 08 October 11 06:56 BST (UK)
Hi  McG

His name is on CWGC site, and his military record is in the Australian Archives to be viewed (as Cass points out)   - and I imagine you must have seen these?

What is it you are having trouble with exactly - lest we spend time searching and reporting  what you already know!

Cheers
AMBLY
Title: Re: Lewis Braganza
Post by: Dundee on Saturday 08 October 11 07:20 BST (UK)
His birth is registered as BREGENZE and siblings as BREGENZER.  Most Trove newspaper references seem to be as BREGENZER.

Debra  :)
Title: Re: Lewis Braganza
Post by: McGreevy on Saturday 08 October 11 07:30 BST (UK)

Thank you

Yes I have already seen his record and have found his AWM file.

Debra you have found what I was looking for , his birth. Have searched Trove and found little on Louis or his mother Christina.

Am tying to work up a picture of who he was.

Again many thanks

McG
Title: Re: Lewis Braganza
Post by: cando on Saturday 08 October 11 07:33 BST (UK)
Australian Electoral Roll
1913
BREGENZER Louis  Mental Hospital, Goodna  Attendant
1913
BREGENZER Louis  Goodna  Warder

Cando
Title: Re: Lewis Braganza
Post by: Aussie1947 on Saturday 08 October 11 07:47 BST (UK)
Hi,

1915 Queensland State Electoral Roll.

Bregenzer, Louis, Hospital for Insane, Goodna, attendant.

Regards
Gerry
Title: Re: Lewis Braganza
Post by: McGreevy on Saturday 08 October 11 07:58 BST (UK)
Hi Gerry and Cando



Thanks for the information. Strangely the AIf Project has Lewis' occupation as Freezer .

Where was he living before 1913? 

Many thanks, I have found an uncle to Louis on AWM site http://cas.awm.gov.au/photograph/DA09106

McG

Title: Re: Lewis Braganza
Post by: Aussie1947 on Saturday 08 October 11 08:02 BST (UK)
McG

His Uncle, Ernest Raymond BREGENZER from Victoria also served in the Great War as well as South Africa, he was killed in action 18th August 1918 and had received the DCM earlier that year.

Regards
Gerry
 
I had Nephew instead of Uncle.
Title: Re: Lewis Braganza
Post by: McGreevy on Saturday 08 October 11 08:10 BST (UK)

Thanks Gerry

Found that entry thanks. His father , do you know what year he died?

Big thanks to all.  The ideal thing would be to find a photos of Louis Bragnaza. If wishes were horses......


McG
Title: Re: Lewis Braganza
Post by: sparrett on Saturday 08 October 11 08:21 BST (UK)
 His father , do you know what year he died?  


Not sure whose death you were searching for.

ERNEST RAYMOND was the son of LOUIS and MARGARET
Born Laen Victoria.
Aged at death 39 in 1918.

There is a photo of him.

http://www.awm.gov.au/research/people/roll_of_honour/person.asp?p=514926

Sue

Title: Re: Lewis Braganza
Post by: Aussie1947 on Saturday 08 October 11 08:29 BST (UK)
There is a death registration for Louis BREGENZER, registered Tamworth 11386/1907.

Could be him.

Your Lewis/Louis was born at Inverell and had been in the Australian Light Horse at Tamworth.

Also Lewis had put his NoK as his mother and not his father which could indicate that his father had died before 1915.
 
Gerry 
Title: Re: Lewis Braganza
Post by: Aussie1947 on Saturday 08 October 11 08:31 BST (UK)


The Louis BREGENZER whose death registration was 11386/1907 at Tamworth had his father as Louis and mother as Margaret.

Gerry
Title: Re: Lewis Braganza
Post by: sparrett on Saturday 08 October 11 08:36 BST (UK)
Brother of ERNEST RAYMOND.

Sue
Title: Re: Lewis Braganza
Post by: ~MERLIN~ on Saturday 08 October 11 08:37 BST (UK)
There are several newspaper reports on TROVE about Louis BREGENZER, school teacher who committed suicide at Tamworth & left behind a wife & children.
There was also a coroners inquest into his death.
Title: Re: Lewis Braganza
Post by: sparrett on Saturday 08 October 11 08:45 BST (UK)
BREGENZER L
Date of Death according to state records of NSW was 17/8/1907 and dutywas paid on the estate 7/1/1908.
He was from Bowling Alley Point.

Sue

 
Title: Re: Lewis Braganza
Post by: sparrett on Saturday 08 October 11 08:54 BST (UK)
Parents' marriage

BREGENZER  Louis
To MCINNES Margaret
Year 1859
Reg 3036

LOUIS' birth in Vic

BREGENZEN Louis
Father Louis
Mother Margaret MCINNES
Birth Place COOL
Year 1860
Reg 20127


Sue
Title: Re: Lewis Braganza
Post by: Aussie1947 on Saturday 08 October 11 08:55 BST (UK)


New South Wales PO Directory 1900 (Wise)
DUNGOWAN
Bregenzer Lewis, teacher.

Gerry
Title: Re: Lewis Braganza
Post by: Aussie1947 on Saturday 08 October 11 09:02 BST (UK)
New South Wales Country Directory 1899-1900
DUNGOWAN
SCHOOLPublic-
L. Bregenzer, head master

Sydney Directory 1913 (Sands)
Bregenzer Mrs. C., St. Mark's rd, Randwick

Gerry
Title: Re: Lewis Braganza
Post by: Aussie1947 on Saturday 08 October 11 09:08 BST (UK)

Maybe Louis's father in Victoria.

Victorian PO Directory 1888 (Wise)
LEARMONTH
Bregenzer Louis, shire engineer.

Gerry
Title: Re: Lewis Braganza
Post by: McGreevy on Saturday 08 October 11 09:35 BST (UK)


Thank you all

Have found out that Louis' sister Ethel also went to war as a nurse. Ethel Christina Bregenzer . She was mentioned in dispatches but cannot find it in the The London Gazette.


McG
Title: Re: Lewis Braganza
Post by: cando on Saturday 08 October 11 09:53 BST (UK)
Quote
New South Wales Country Directory 1899-1900
DUNGOWAN
SCHOOLPublic-
L. Bregenzer, head master
Gerry

New South Wales Electoral Roll
1903 Division New England Sub division Dungowan
BREGENZER Louis  Teacher
BREGENZAR Christina  Domestic duties

Cando
Title: Re: Lewis Braganza
Post by: cando on Saturday 08 October 11 12:04 BST (UK)
Birth
24109/1885
BREGENZE Louis
Father Louis   Mother Christina
District Inverell

http://www.bdm.dotag.wa.gov.au/_apps/pioneersindex/default.aspx
1922/F886   
BREGENZA Louis   
Father Louis Bergenzer   Mother Christina Munro

And from another source
Death
1916/886
BREGENZA Louis
Died   4 Jul 1916
Father Louis Bergenzer  Mother Christina Munro

Marriage
5465/1884
MUNRO Christina
BREGENZER Louis   
District Inverell

Death
19937/1954    
BREGENZER    Christina
Father Donald  Mother Catherine
District Newton

Birth Vic
MUNRO Christina
Father Donald  Mother Catherine McGILLIVERAY
At Mortlake  1860  Reg#20427

Christina is on the NSW   electoral rolls with occupation sewing teacher.

Cando

Title: Re: Lewis Braganza
Post by: cando on Saturday 08 October 11 12:07 BST (UK)
The verdict from the inquest into the death of Louis BREGENZER's Sep 1907
Effects of a pea rifle shot wound in the region of the hear inflicted by himself, but whether accidentally or otherwise the evidence adduced does not enable me to say.

Cando
Title: Re: Lewis Braganza
Post by: Aussie1947 on Saturday 08 October 11 12:42 BST (UK)
McG,

SUPPLEMENT TO THE LONDON GAZETTE, 5 JUNE, 1919, page 7191.

AUSTRALIAN IMPERIAL FORCE
ARMY NURSING SERVICE.
Bregenzer, S/Nurse Miss E. C.

5 other Australian Nurses were also Mentioned.

Page  7171 of the same Supplement explains the Mention.

Regards
Gerry

Title: Re: Lewis Braganza
Post by: McGreevy on Sunday 09 October 11 05:55 BST (UK)
Hi


Thank you all for your help.

Only need one thing more to fill out his bio, is there any way of finding out where Louis would have been educated.

many thanks

McG
Title: Re: Lewis BRAGANZA
Post by: annierutherford on Friday 08 March 19 06:59 GMT (UK)
Hi
I am a descendant of Louis Bregenzer.  My grandmother was Ethel Christina Bregenzer.