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Research in Other Countries => Australia => Topic started by: Lazarus on Wednesday 18 March 09 00:28 GMT (UK)
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I am hoping to find shipping records for Mary Ann Carmody bC1838 Kilmaley Co Clare.
She married William Halliwell by licence at Christ Church Geelong 3 Mar 1857 William Halliwell.
Her parents were Patrick Carmody and Elizabeth Boland.
As their first children were born Chilwell and Geelong I am wondering if she arrived Corio Bay.
I have not been able to find her on the regular migration records.
Any help greatly appreciated.
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Co. Clare Carmody entries from Slaters Commercial Directory of 1846 :
Ennis
Carmody's Hotel (& excise office), Michael Carmody, Church st
Michael Carmody, Church st, Ennis - Livery Stables
Kilrush
Patrick Carmody, Pound lane - Carpenter.
Shane
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Thank you Shane.
I will need to check further on this.
Patrick Carmody father of Mary Ann was said to be a farmer.
Appreciated
Rex
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I have traced my Carmody relatives in Kilmaley back to 1823. Do you know if Mary Ann Carmody had any siblings that stayed in Kilmaley? My grandmother was born Ellen Carmody in 1897, died in 1987. My great grandparents were John Carmody (1861 to 1925) and Mary O'Neill (1861 to 1921). My great, great grandparents were Thomas Carmody (1823 to 1877) and Hanora Kennedy (1831 to ?).
John Carmody was an only child to Thomas and Hanora. There are other Carmody's in Kilmaley as well. My family is from the town of Connolly, in the Parish of Kilmaley.
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Thank you dundeemayer and welcome to RootsChat.
I will refer your Carmody information to my friend who is searching for her Carmody relatives from Kilmaley.
I do hope that we can make a connection.
Best wishes
Rex
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I assume you have checked out the 3 assisted passage Mary Carmody entries one arriving 1855 and two in 1854?
Cheers, Judith
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Hi,
I don't have very much information for my Carmody Ancestors - this is what I know.
Mary Ann Carmody was my gggrandmother, she was born abt.1838 Kilmaley County Clare Ireland. She immigrated to Australia prior to her marriage to William Halliwell in 1857.
Unfortunately I have not been able to find her on any shipping records. I don't know if she came on her own or with any family.
Searching on the Victorian BMD Index, I have not found her parents or any siblings. So I presume she came on her own - perhaps an orphan of the Famine.
As you can see from Lazarus post - her parents were Patrick Carmody (Farmer) and Elizabeth Boland. I know nothing further of her parents, siblings or others - unfortunately.
I have almost given up any hope of tracing my Carmody line back into Ireland.
Would appreciate any help you are able to give me.
What records are available for Kilmaley?.
EDIT - Thanks Lazarus - I must have been trying to post the same time as you. LOL.
Judith - No I haven't checked those two (at least I don't think so) - where can I find them - what ships?.
Kind Regards
Sarra in OZ
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Sarra
I hope that there is something there for you.Please keep us informed.
Rex
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Hi
Search the index for Victorian assisted immigration records. One of the 1844 people is aged 44 so I guess it is not likely her. I just used Carmody Mary for the search, left out 'Ann'.
http://proarchives.imagineering.com.au/index_search.asp?searchid=24
Cheers, Judith
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Here are a list of Carmody marriages in Kilmaley Church:
James Carmody and Mary Carmody 15/9/1847
John Carmody and Mary Carmody 13/9/1846
John Carmody and Mary O'Neill 10/2/1889 (my family)
John Carmody and Lucy Crehan 24/2/1900
Pat Carmody and Mary Conlon 4/2/1861
Thomas Carmody and Brigid McGrath 24/2/1870
Daniel Brennan and Margaret Carmody 23/2/1839
John Carney and Anne Carmody 17/2/1860
John Cashen and Mary Carmody 20/9/1879
William Chambers and Bridget Carmody 26/11/1864
Michael Connell and Bridget Carmody 21/2/1830
John Costelloe and Mary Carmody 13/2/1866
Pat Custy and Mary Carmody 23/11/1835
John Faul and Brigid Carmody 15/2/1835
John Faul and Brigid Carmody 12/2/1847
Denis Frawley and Anne Carmody 20/11/1834
MIchael Galvin and Brigid Carmody 18/7/1872
James Lynch and Anne Carmody 28/2/1886
Thomas Lynch and Brigid Carmody 2/3/1840
John Murphy and Mary Carmody 9/2/1858
Thomas O'Shea and Ellen Carmody 21/6/1830
I hope this doesn't cloud things up even more.
John
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On December 26, 1826, there were five Carmody Families listed in the Tithe Applotment Books:
1. Roger Carmody in Lispickane
2. Michael Carmody in Knockadangan
3. Michael Carmody in Ballyelan (Ballyiluan)
4. Thomas Carmody in Lisroe
5. Michael Carmody in Lisroe
In the 1855 Griffith's Valuation, the Carmody families in the parish were down to three:
1. Connor Carmody in Ballyiluan
2. Michael Carmody in Sheehaun
3. Thomas Carmody in Lisroe
In the 1901 Census there were still three families:
1. John Carmody in Feighroe. This is my family. Feigroe was the home place of the O'Neills, so John Carmody assumed the land. I am still unsure as to which family he came from, or if he was from outside the parish. He is buried in the neighboring parish of Inagh, which is almost the same distance as Kilmaley Church Cemetery.
2. Thomas Carmody in Letteragh
3. Patt Carmody in Lisroe.
If any of these leads seem interesting to you, let me know, I have more information I can look through. Maybe you trail will lead me to mine!
John
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CARMODY MARY, 20, arrived FEB 1855 on AMAZON (bk11 p133), housemaid form Limerick, disposal list says she was engaged by Capt Reardon, Mount Ridley.
AMAZON sailed from Plymouth 7 November 1854, arrived Melbourne 1 Feb 1855.
CARMODY MARY, 20 arrived 20 JUL 1854 on CITY OF MANCHESTER (Bk10 p281), dom servt, native Ireland, Clare, Roman Catholic.
Disposal list says she was engaged by Joseph Dyson?, Wellington Estate, date 6 September, wage 20 pounds, term 3 months with rations.
CITY OF MANCHESTER sailed from Southampton 20 March 1854, arrived Point Henry, Geelong 11 July 1854.
CARMODY MARY, 42, arrived APR 1854 ALMORA (bk10 p230) dom servt, native Ireland, Clare, Roman Catholic.
Disposal list says she was engaged by Mr Rae, Portland on May 10 30 pounds for 3 months with rations.
There are 2 other Carmody girls on this ship, both from Clare, both dom servants; Anne, 15, the disposal list says 'with mother', address Portland, May 10; and Susan, 22, who was engaed by Mr Learmonth of Ettrick. The ALMORA sailed for Liverpool on 31 Jan, 1854, arrived Portland 25 April 1854. Almost all immigrants on this ship are from Ireland. Anne's name is on the next line down from Mary's so it looks as though Mary is the mother that Anne went with.
Hope that is of some help!
Judith
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John,
Thanks for taking the time to post all that information.
Regarding the Carmody Marriages - nothing is jumping out at me at the moment. I think what I need to do is find Mary Ann's birth record or the marriage for her parents Patrick Carmody and Elizabeth Boland.
However if they were Church of Ireland and married in the Parish of Kilmaley, I believe those records have been lost in the fire of 1922.?
You are perhaps only the second person I have come across who have Carmodys in Kilmaley. Did any of yours immigrate ?.
When I first started researching my Carmody & Boland Ancestors, I did search Griffiths Valuation of Ireland, so I'm familiar with the places where they were.
Unfortunately I just can't say which ones maybe mine, if any.
It would be great if we could make a connection somewhere.
Any other information you can add would be appreciated.
As I said I've almost given up finding any information for my Kilmaley Ancestors.
Judith,
You certainly have been very busy today. I can't remember if I haver checked all those shipping records you have listed. I'll have a look at them tomorrow at my local library.
The ones in Portland and Point Henry could be of interest.
Will let you know how it all works out.
Many thanks to you all for your help.
Sarra
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Sarra,
I believe the closest Church of Ireland would have been in Ennis. As Kilmaley is a rural area, I have never come across any references to anything but the RC Church. There are actually three RC Churches in the parish. One at Kilmaley, one in the town of Connolly and a third in the town of Inch.
Thanks for your reply.
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I'm interested in this thread because my Kays family were from Kilmaley parish, specifically the townland of Letteragh. Associated names were Cullinan and Neylon. I'd be very interested to hear from anyone with connections to this area. The name Carmody is familiar as I know a family with this name once lived in Letteragh, I think in the Ben Dash 'mountain' area. If you look at the marvellous Clare County Library website, they have many, many online resources for this area but in particular you might like to see the records from Lisroe School, which has several Carmody children listed.
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I'm interested in this thread because my Kays family were from Kilmaley parish, specifically the townland of Letteragh. Associated names were Cullinan and Neylon. I'd be very interested to hear from anyone with connections to this area. The name Carmody is familiar as I know a family with this name once lived in Letteragh, I think in the Ben Dash 'mountain' area. If you look at the marvellous Clare County Library website, they have many, many online resources for this area but in particular you might like to see the records from Lisroe School, which has several Carmody children listed.
Dorelia, My apologizes for this very late reply. Could you please post the link to the Clare County Library website.
I don't seem to be able to find it.
Thanks - Sarra
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Dorelia,
I don't know if you have this or not, but Kilmaley Parish mariage records show:
Roger Cullinan and Nancy Keys were married in Kilmaley Church on January 21, 1837.
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James Keys and Brigid Neylan were married in Kilmaley Church on February 27, 1838.
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A few more Kilmaley bits on the Keys family:
Edmond O'Donnell and Margaret Keys were married in Kilmaley Church on February 8, 1831.
Peter Cullinan and Ellen Keys of Letteragh, had a son Rodger baptized on May 5, 1831 in Kilmaley Church. The sponsors were Thomas Lynch and Mary Purcell.
There are also two Kayes listed in the 1826 Tithe Applotments in Letteragh, a widow and a Thomas but the famly seems to have gone by the 1855 Griffith's Valuation for Letteragh.
Hope it helps!
Good Luck
John
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thanks guys: apologies for not posing the Clare library link: forgot - just google Clare Library - fantastic site.
I was aware of some of my family entries here but you've spotted some really interesting extra ones which had escaped me and I will look into these: many thanks again for your help!
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my husband's grandfather was John Carmody who immigrated to the United States, Massachusetts, around 1902. His parents were Thomas Carmody and Bridget (or maybe spelled Brigid) McGrath.. I am hoping that someone may have information. I think I may have found information, Kilmaley Parish Co Clare, they were married February 24 1870. I would like to know if he had any brothers or sisters.
John married Mary Nelan, they had 4 children Mary, John, James and Catherine. My husband's mother was Catherine.
Thank you for any help you may have.
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Hi LeBlanc,
I see you are a new member - so welcome to Rootschat.
I've found it difficult trying to trace my Irish Ancestors. So I can't give you any advice in that direction.
I would suggest that you start a new thread - perhaps Thomas CARMODY - etc in the Subject field.
Good luck
Sarra :)
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to Lazarus,
My Greatgreat Grandfather William Halliwell married Maryann Carmody from Kilmaley, Co Clare, Ireland, born 1837. She died in Clifton Hill, Victoria, Australia in 1910. They had 3 sons, James Henry Stephen, John, Thomas Martin. Thomas Martin was my Greatgranfather. Their grandchildren were Alexandra Fredericka, Athur Thomas ( my grandfather) Caroline May, Elizabeth Florence, Mary Emily, Thomas Alfred, William Thomas. I hope this is some help to you, good luck with your research. Noel.
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Noel,
Lazarus posted regarding Mary Ann Carmody on my behalf, he was helping me...hoping he could find something or someone with information.
Actually Thomas Martin Halliwell was my great grandfather too, so that would mean we are cousins??.
Arthur Thomas Halliwell your grandfather....yes I do remember him.
Noel I think I we met once or twice??. It would be great to compare our research on the "Halliwell" ancestors.
We could do this by Personal Message (PM), however to do this you need to have posted three messages..... have a look at the top of this board (Help) and it will explain what a (PM) is.
Sarra :)
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Sarra, Are you in Australia or overseas. The information I had was from first families.
Noel.
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Noel,
I'm in Australia..... I know of the First Families you mention.
Have you done any research on the 'Halliwell' ancestors.?
I see you are fairly new to Rootschat, so a belated welcome to you.
Sarra
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To Sarra, I am fairly new to researching my ancestry, and unfortunately I have not been able to pass the first family stage on the Halliwell side. I have a fair amount of information on my grandmother Violet Amelia Halliwell nee Sheldon she married Arthur Halliwell in Sebastapol, Ballarat. I remember going to Barwon Downs near Geelong to see Pops family, I think they were cousins. I will try to get onto this pm you mentioned. Regards Noel.
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Noel,
Now that you have posted three times, I will be able to send you a Personal Message (PM).
I remember your grandmother, although I could not tell you anything about the 'Sheldon' side of things.
'Barwon Downs' I know nothing about that in connection to the 'Halliwells', so I'm very interested to hear what information you have on that.
Best wishes.....Sarra
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LeBlanc,
I have found two births which may be of interest to you.
Thomas Carmody born 23 December, 1870
Pts: Thomas Carmody & Bridget McGrath of Letteragh
Present at birth: Margaret Cahill of Letteragh
John Carmody born 1 July, 1872
Pts: Thomas Carmody & Bridget McGrath of Letteragh
Regards,
DoireM