RootsChat.Com

England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Devon => Topic started by: HH on Saturday 07 May 05 14:57 BST (UK)

Title: HINE/DYBLE in Littleham
Post by: HH on Saturday 07 May 05 14:57 BST (UK)
My interest is in the Hine family, many of whom were stonemasons in the Sidmouth/ Littleham area in the 19th century. Specific names are Edwin Stewart Hine (1844-1899) who married twice; secondly to Clara Dyble. His father Henry Hine (1823-1875), whose parents appear to be Henry and Hannah Hine. There is a Henry Hine, stonemason, in the 1830 Pigot's Directory but perhaps someone has some more tangible( I nearly said concrete...) information?  HH
Title: Re: HINE/DYBLE in Littleham
Post by: Valda on Saturday 07 May 05 15:22 BST (UK)
1861 census RG9 1382 folio 75 Strand Littleham  Devon 
Agnes Hine 1805  Otterton, Devon, England Head Widow 
Emily M Hine 1853  Exmouth, Devon, Daughter 
Edwin S Hine 1845  Exmouth, Devon, Son  stonemason

There is a Henry Hine on the census birth circa 1823 in Sidmouth. He is married in Exeter with two sons (both born Wales). This Henry was a cabinet maker.

Edwin Stewart Hine was still in Littleham on the 1871 census with wife Mary E and three sons. He was a stonemason employing one labourer.
Agnes his widowed mother and Emily his sister were living next door.
Regards
Valda
Title: Re: HINE/DYBLE in Littleham
Post by: Valda on Saturday 07 May 05 15:31 BST (UK)
1871 census RG10 2047 folio 13 Strand Littleham  Devon
Edwin Stewart Hine 1847  Exmouth, Devon,  Head Married Stonemason employing one labourer
Mary E Hine 1844  Exmouth, Devon, Wife  Married    
Francis S Hine 1866  Exmouth, Devon,  Son  
William H Hine 1867  Exmouth, Devon,  Son  
Thomas W Hine 1869  Exmouth, Devon,  Son

Next household
Agnes Hine 1805  Otterton, Devon, England Head Widow  
Emily M Hine 1853  Exmouth, Devon,  Daughter Unmarried Dressmaker

Regards
Valda  
  
  
Title: Re: HINE/DYBLE in Littleham
Post by: HH on Sunday 08 May 05 12:45 BST (UK)
Thanks Valda! Really helpful information. I had the 1871, but only of Edwin. I've visited the cemetary at Littleham so have details of various Hines from gravestones, but couldn't find Edwin. I have Edwin's second marriage cert., showing him as a widower and his father as Henry. There is a Henry Hine buried at Littleham, twin brother of Thomas, born Sidmouth 1823, but this doesn't seem to tie up with Agnes's d.o.b. She would have been 18 years older than Henry! So was she his second wife, or is it a different Henry? Edwin was definitely born in St.Thomas area, I presume at Littleham.
HELP!!   HH
Title: Re: HINE/DYBLE in Littleham
Post by: Valda on Sunday 08 May 05 13:52 BST (UK)
On the 1861 census you have a Henry Hine and his family in Exeter

Henry Hine 1823  Sidmouth Head  Exeter All Hallows on the Wall  Devon    Cabinetmaker
Elizabeth M Hine 1824  Sidmouth Wife  Exeter All Hallows on the Wall  Devon   
James H Hine 1859  Pontypridd, Glamorgan, Wales Son  Exeter All Hallows on the Wall  Devon   
Sidney G Hine 1860  Pontypridd, Glamorgan, Wales Son  Exeter All Hallows on the Wall  Devon

The only other obvious Hine on the census born Sidmouth is in Teignmouth

William S Hine 1819  Sidmouth, Devon, England Head  East Teignmouth  Devon  Statutory (?) and mason
Anna Maria Hine 1827  Exmouth, Devon, England Sister  East Teignmouth  Devon 

The IGI has some baptisms for Sidmouth
HENRY HINE 
Christening:  28 FEB 1823   Marsh Chapel-Independent, Sidmouth, Devon, England
Father:  HENRY HINE  Mother:  HANNAH
JOHN STRACHLEY HINE 
Christening:  10 JUN 1821   Marsh Chapel-Independent, Sidmouth, Devon, England
Father:  HENRY HINE 
Mother:  HANNAH 
THOMAS HINE 
Christening:  28 FEB 1823   Marsh Chapel-Independent, Sidmouth, Devon, England
Father:  HENRY HINE 
Mother:  HANNAH 

The IGI gives a likely marriage
HENRY HINES 
Spouse:  HANNAH DAVEY STRATCHLEY 
Marriage:  20 AUG 1817   Saint Mary Steps, Exeter, Devon, England
 
But the IGI has no parish records for Sidmouth and really to know anything further you need to look at the parish registers and censuses earlier than 1861 for in the case of parish registers both Sidmouth and Littleham and may be both for censuses. Without information from these sources your knowledge will only remain fragmentary.
On a Google search of Hine and Sidmouth

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~stonemen/HEM-HOD.htm
HINE, Albert, b.1886 Paignton-Dev, Mason’s Labourer, address 1891: 9 Orchard Terrace, Paignton-Dev, 1901: Paignton-Dev.

HINE, Alfred, b.1852 Exmouth-Dev, Marble Mason, Assistant Overseer, and Brush Dealer, address 1881: Albion Street, Withycombe Rawleigh-Dev.

HINE, Edward, b.1820 Sidmouth-Dev, Statuary & Master Builder, and Grocer & Tea Dealer, address 1851: 34 Albion Street, Exmouth-Dev, 1881: Rolle Street, Littleham-Dev.

HINE, Edwin, b.1845 Exmouth-Dev, Master Mason, address 1881: Strand, Littleham-Dev, 1890: 15 Strand, Exmouth-Dev, 1893: Victoria Place, Exmouth-Dev, 1897: Bicton Street, Exmouth-Dev.

HINE, Frank, b.1872 Kentisbeare-Dev, Stone Bailiff, address 1881: Moor, Kentisbeare-Dev, 1901: Kentisbeare-Dev.

HINE, George, b.1826 Exmouth-Dev, Stone Mason, address 1851: Market House, East Teignmouth-Dev.

HINE, Henry, b.1791 Exeter-Dev, Stone & Statuary Mason, address 1844: Strand, Exmouth-Dev, 1850: Strand, Exmouth-Dev, 1851: Strand, Exmouth-Dev.

HINE, James, b.1806 West Alvington-Dev, Mason, address 1851: West Alvington, Kingsbridge-Dev.

HINE, James, b.1830 Ilminster-Som, Architect, address 1876: Plymouth-Dev, 1881: 23 Mulgrave Street, Plymouth St.Andrew-Dev, 1891: 23 Lockyer Street, Plymouth St.Andrew-Dev, 1901: Plymouth-Dev.  Worked on church at Holne-Dev in 1876.

HINE, James, b.1836 Kentisbeare-Dev, Mason, address 1851: Wheatcroft, Cullompton-Dev, 1881: Moor, Kentisbeare-Dev, 1891: Cottage, Kentisbeare-Dev, 1894-1895: Kentismoor, Kentisbeare-Dev.

HINE, John, b.1823 West Swinton-Dev, Mason, address 1851: Milton Street, Plymouth-Dev, 1852: 21 Milton Street, Plymouth-Dev, 1881: Milton Street, Plymouth-Dev.

HINE, John, b.1868 Kentisbeare-Dev, Mason, address 1881: Moor, Kentisbeare-Dev, 1891: Cottage, Kentisbeare-Dev, 1894-1895: Silver Street, Kentisbeare-Dev, 1901: Kentisbeare-Dev.

HINE, Nicholas, b.1860 Loddiswell-Dev, Mason’s Labourer, address 1891: 9 Orchard Terrace, Paignton-Dev, 1901: Paignton-Dev.

HINE, Richard, b.1861 Ugborough-Dev, Mason, address 1881: 21 Frederick Street E, Plymouth St.Andrew-Dev.

HINE, William, b.1818 Blackawton-Dev, Quarryman, address 1851: Mill Street, Totnes-Dev.

HINE, William S, b.1819 Sidmouth-Dev, Statuary & Master Builder, address 1851: 4 Brunswick Place, East Teignmouth-Dev, 1881: 8 Den Crescent, East Teignmouth-Dev., 1891: Fore Street, St.Nicholas-Dev.

HINE, William, b.1838 Ugborough-Dev, Stone Quarryman, address 1851: Bittaford Village, Ugborough-Dev, 1881: Turnchapel, Plymstock-Dev.

HINE, William, b.1867 Exmouth-Dev, Stone Mason, address 1881: Strand, Littleham-Dev.


On FreeBMD this could be Edwin's sister - the district is right for Littleham
Births Dec 1852
Hine  Emily Meneen    St Thomas  5b 47

Regards
Valda



   
 
 

Title: Re: HINE/DYBLE in Littleham
Post by: HH on Saturday 16 July 05 21:51 BST (UK)
Does anyone have any leads on the name "Meneen"? Emily Meneen would seem to be Edwin Stewart Hine's sister, but Agnes would have been about 48 when she had her!
I still can't pin down the Henry Hine I need, but one appears in Pigot's 1830 Directory, Masons and Bricklayers, in Strand, where the family lived for many years in Littleham. As Edwin became a stonemason, this could be my man.
Title: Re: HINE/DYBLE in Littleham
Post by: jericho on Saturday 16 July 05 21:58 BST (UK)
this is Henry Hine in the 1851 census, hope this helps.

Henry  HINE   Head   M   60   M   Stone Mason   Exeter-DEV
Agnes  HINE   Wife   M   46   F   ---   Otterton-DEV
Edwin  HINE   Son   -   6   M   Scholar   Exmouth-DEV
Mark  HINE   Son   -   4   M   Scholar   Exmouth-DEV
Emma  HINE   Daur   -   8m   F   ---   Exmouth-DEV

Strand
Littleham In St Thomas Devonshire
HO/107/1865 Folio 282 Page 27
Title: Re: HINE/DYBLE in Littleham
Post by: Valda on Sunday 17 July 05 11:42 BST (UK)
From FreeBMD
http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/cgi/search.pl

Hine, Emily Meneen 1852 December Births St Thomas Devon

Hine, Emily Meneen 1874 June Marriages St Thomas Devon
Haymes, Willie Frank J 1874 June Marriages St Thomas Devon


1881 census is also free for you to search
http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/frameset_search.asp?PAGE=census/search_census.asp

RG11 2138 folio 16  18 Strand, Littleham, Devon, England   
Willie F.J. Haymes 29  Exmouth, Devon, Head  Married Bootmaker employing 12 men, 11 boys and 5 females
Emily M. Haymes 28  Exmouth, Devon, Wife  Married
Ernest F. Haymes 6 Exmouth, Devon, Son 
Lilian A. Haymes 2 Exmouth, Devon, Daughter 
Charlotte M. Haymes 1 mth  Exmouth, Devon, Daughter 
Mary Angivin 24  St Just, Cornwall, General Domestic Servant
Victoria Cummings abt 1866  Knowle, Devon, Nurse Domestic Servant

Regards
Valda

Title: Re: HINE/DYBLE in Littleham
Post by: HH on Sunday 17 July 05 16:41 BST (UK)
Thanks- really helpful!!
The 1851 is particularly useful, as it's Edwin who we need to track back, he being my husband's g.grandfather.
I'd guessed Henry must have been born about 1790, so now I just need more leads on him and any other siblings ( or half siblings ) of Edwin. I suspect Agnes was a second wife, being 14 years younger than Henry. Mind you, she had Emily at about 45 so Henry didn't do too badly for an old 'un!
I have the 1881, so will look into it further.
Title: Re: HINE/DYBLE in Littleham
Post by: krisesjoint on Monday 18 July 05 04:23 BST (UK)
here is the 1841 entry

HO107/0207 Folio 3 Page 1
Strand
Exmouth


HINE Henry 50 Y
HINE John 20 Y Stone Mason
HINE Henry 15 Y Cabinet Maker
HINE George 12 Y Stone Mason
HINE Maria 10 Y

Cheers Kris  :D

Title: Re: HINE/DYBLE in Littleham
Post by: krisesjoint on Monday 18 July 05 04:35 BST (UK)
here is George in 1851

HO107/1870 Folio 153 Page 31
Market House   
East Teignmouth Newton Abbot, Devonshire



CAWLEY Charles Head 45 Mar Pork Butcher b Teigngrace
CAWLEY Sarah Wife 55 Mar b Peyhembury
HINE Mary Daur 20 Mar b London St Georges
CAWLEY Charles Son 18 Unm Musician London Clerkenwell
HINE George SonL 25 Mar Stone Mason Exmouth
HINE Charles G. GSon 4 b Teignmouth

Cheers Kris  :D
   
Title: Re: HINE/DYBLE in Littleham
Post by: HH on Thursday 21 July 05 16:30 BST (UK)
The picture is starting to fall into place: Henry Hine firstly married Hannah Davey Strachley or Stretchley in Exeter in 1817 and they had several children. In the 1841 (thanks Kris), I suspect he was a widower. He married Agnes Algar in 1843, probably in Littleham and they went on to have at least 3 children. Any leads on Agnes, born abt 1805 in Otterton??
All the Hines born around the 1820s were offspring of the first marriage, then Edwin, Mark and Emily, born between 1844 and 1850. There's also an Emma -ene Hine who died in 1851. Who is this?
Title: Re: HINE/DYBLE in Littleham
Post by: krisesjoint on Thursday 21 July 05 22:14 BST (UK)
HO107/0206 Folio 5 Page 5
Budleigh Salterton
East Budleigh


home of Mary Campbell - Independent

ALGAR Agnes 34 Y Female Servant

Cheers Kris  :D
Title: Re: HINE/DYBLE in Littleham
Post by: HH on Friday 22 July 05 17:50 BST (UK)
Thanks, Kris
I assume that was the 1841 from the format?
I'd love to find out where the name Meneen came from, but all I can find is a boat from about 1897, so who or what was it named after? It is an Arabic word- anyone know its literal meaning?
HH
Title: Re: HINE/DYBLE in Littleham
Post by: Grannybubbles on Saturday 12 January 19 12:53 GMT (UK)
Hi, just found this forum.  I realise the last posts on this thread were a few years ago, but thought I'd mention that Edwin Hine was also my great grandfather.  My grandfather was William Henry Hine, stonemason in Exmouth.
Title: Re: HINE/DYBLE in Littleham
Post by: lewin on Friday 08 February 19 18:50 GMT (UK)
The Henry Hines who married Hannah Davey Stratchley in Exeter in 1817 is shown as a stonemason so good chance this is your ancestor.  I have a few ancestral lines from Littleham and some of them married in Exeter so its not uncommon.  The image of the marriage is on FindMyPast.  The Davey in her name should help you to trace her back.
Lewin