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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Lancashire => Topic started by: Steph on Sunday 30 October 11 19:50 GMT (UK)
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Hi
I'm looking for the parents of Ann Linday. She married William Newton in Blawith in 1784, their children were born in Kirkby Ireleth. The marriage info was obtained from the Blawith and Lowick parish registers on ancestry.
Any help appreciated (I have looked at the Lancs opc site which is normally pretty good but have been unable to find anything).
Regards
Steph
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William Newton ,of Little Langdale
in the parish of Grasmere,labourer
Ann Linday of Blawith ,spinster
witness John Newton and Jane Atkinson
8th of Feb 1784
St John the Baptist Blawith
Grasmere is Westmorland
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Is this your Williams death or did they move out of Kirby
William Newton aged 73,
abode Chapels
19 th of Jan 1836
St Cuthberts,Kirby Ireleth
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I have William's death as 19 Jan 1836 but still in Kirkby Ireleth. I think I got that from the Lancs opc although will have to double-check.
Regards
Steph
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If no one comes up with any thing I will go up to St Cuthberts and have a look for you ,there may be a headstone,it will be later in the week,
Chapels is on the old road over the moor to Coniston and Torver ,on the other side of Kirby,
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Thank you so much - I'm about as far away as you could get in Southampton!
Regards
Steph
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Can you give me the childrens names and rough dates of birth,
there is a death in Colton for a William Newton aged 17 so possibly a son,
I have to say Newton isn't a name I am familiar with Linday as Lindsay ,yes I am familiar with ,
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Hi
Children are:
Thomas chr 1784 18 Dec Kirkby Ireleth
William chr 1787 Kirkby Ireleth or Ulverston
Mary chr 1794 7 Jul Kirkby Ireleth
Ann chr 1789 28 Jun Kirkby Ireleth, bur 1 Feb 1842 Kirkby Ireleth
Jenny chr 1800 20 Apr Blawith
Regards
Steph
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Thomas Newton,husbandsman of Chaples,batchelor,
Betty Woodburn of Grizebeck
St Cuthberts
30 th of December 1813
witness to marriage,James Frearson and John Newton,
William Newton of Tenterbank,
Sarah Adison of Farhouses,
married by licence
28 th of June 1812
Bartholomew Posthelthwaite,batchelor blacksmith of Sicklemill,
Mary Newton spinster of Chapels,
witnes James Frearson and George Robinson,
married by licence,
15 th of December 1816
George Posthelthwaite batchelor
Ann Newton spinster
married by licence,
witness William Simpson and James Frearson,
30 th of July 1814
all married St Cuthberts,
Jenny Newton,
daughter of William and Ann,
abode Kendal Ground,
St Luke Lowick,
born 28 th of March baptism 20 th of April 1800
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This may be a connection to your family ,though a generation after yours,
QSP/2335/16
Lancashire records office,
Removal order,
Lower Holker to Langdale,co Westmorland,
Order of removal of Hannah Lindsay wife of Hamilton Lindsay,and Grace ,Hamilton,Elizabeth and Ann,their children,
9th of March 1794
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Sorry The older head stones are so worn and weathered,at St Cuthberts, I couldnt read them,I have a friend who works transcribing and he is going to see if he can find any thing for you,
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Being very cheeky here but could you ask your transcribing friend to see if there are any Hewartson gravestones as well. Great great grandparents came from Kirkby Ireleth.
many thanks
Gibel
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Of course I will,I am only a few miles away from Kirby in Furness,
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Hogan there are no monumental inscriptions for your family in Kirby Ireleth as far as we can see ,possibly they are in Ireleth ,or Dalton In Furness,
there are no marriages in the notes I have but a few baptisms for the children of William and Isabella,are these your ancestors of Brighouses,Kirby in Furness,
Sorry about that ,one good thing though they never claimed Parish relief or went into the workhouse,I am reading the vestry notes ,and have them for one week only,as they are on loan,
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Steph,
Your William Newton was an overseer of the poor and he and his family are mentioned many times,there are to many little snippets to even start to post them if you PM me I will give you the name and telephone number of the person who produced the book,he may have or know where you can purchase a copy,for your own use,it was printed in 2004 ,but you never know he may still have an odd copy hanging around,
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Thabks Radcliff William and Isabella Hewartson are mine. I have all their baptisms but thanks very much for looking. William varies between an ag lab and a quarry lab. He was born in Beetham maried in Cartmel and arrived in Brighouse after his marriage. His son Joseph my gg grandfather went to Barrow became an engine driver and married Jane Geldart whose grandfather was the Lighthouse keeper at Walney island.
Thanks for looking.
Gibel
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That is the family I picked up on, Geldarts are still strong in Dalton,
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Hi,
Have you considered that Linday could be a typo? There are a few people with the surname Lindsay in Furness, but Lindow is quite common, particularly in the area between Lowick and Ulverston. One possibility is Anne Lindow, b 1757, daughter of William Lindow of Hawkswell and his wife Anne, nee Postlethwaite.
I haven't checked the original of the Blawith marriage, but it seems plausible that Lindow could have been misread as Linday.
Pete
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There are no Lindows baptised in Blawith between 1745 and 1875
as common as the name may be,even now,there are also no burials or marriages,in the Blawith church records,
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True, but there is a William Lindow, overseer of the poor at Oxenhouse, Blawith in 1751
In the 18th century, there are quite a few Lindows in Lowick, which is just south of Blawith. There are more Lindows in Ulverston, many of whom are living around Broughton Beck and Egton townships, which border on to Lowick.
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I know the name well ,living in the area Pete and can reasure you she wasnt baptised Blawith as I have been to the records office in Barrow, and checked right through,
but your input is appreciated as we need a few more researchers this far North,that know the area,
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Hi,
The abstract of the Will of James Lindow, Yeoman of Broughton Beck from 1796 that is in the National Archives helps here. The abstract mentions James's surviving brothers John and William. More particularly, it also mentioned his cousins Thomas, who lived with the testator, and James, Thomas's brother.
Also mentioned, but not identified as cousins, are Phoebe Coward of Knapperthaw, Anne Newton of Wellhouse in Kirkby, William Coward of Knapperthaw and Mary Simpson, wife of James Simpson, Blacksmith of Broughton Beck. I know from other research that Phoebe, William and Mary are siblings of the testator's cousins Thomas and James. Their parents are William Lindow of Hawkswell, d 1768, and his wife Anne, nee Postlethwaite. From the Will of the latter mentioned William Lindow, it is known that he had a daughter Anne alive in 1768. I can't see another Anne Newton in Kirkby round the same time, so it looks to me that the Ann who married William Newton in Blawith in 1784 was Anne Lindow, and that Linday is a typo/misreading. From her gravestone, she was 82 when she died in March 1839, so would be a reasonable match for the Anne, daughter of William Lindow of Flann, Mansriggs, baptised at Ulverston 22 Oct 1757.
Anne Postlethwaite, wife of William Lindow of Hawkswell, was daughter of Robert Postlethwaite of Hierlath/Higherlath Osmotherley, and his wife Ann, nee Higgin, daughter of William Higgin of Osmotherley and his wife Mary, nee Atkinson I have a copy of William Higgin's Will that mentions his son-in-law Robert Postlethwaite from 1715 that shows this.
The abstract of James Lindow Will from 1796 has 2 other items of interest: it mentions another cousin Isabel Muckelt and her daughter Hannah Yeats. I haven't fitted these 2 in yet. It also says that James Lindow, the cousin, doesn't get his inheritance until he takes a good and lawful wife and behaves properly toward her. I wonder what was the cause of this?
Best wishes,
Pete
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I have a Phoebe Coward in my tree, married Myles Shaw, her mum was a Lindow I believe, the same person in the will maybe? They were my 5 or 6 x g grandparents, cant work it out without my file in front of me :)
Regards
Catherine
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The Phoebe Coward in the Will was born Phoebe Lindow in 1753, married John Coward, a tailor at Knapperthaw, and died at Hawkswell in 1802.
I have that it was John and Phoebe's daughter Hannah that married Myles Shaw in 1818, and that their daughter Phoebe married William Sparke.
I can only find one child of Myles and Hannah Shaw: Phoebe, b 1823 Finsthwaite. Do you know of any more?
Phoebe Coward, nee Lindow, is my Greatx4 Great-aunt.
Best wishes,
Pete
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Thankyou for your reply, got my file in front of me now, yes Hannah Coward married Myles Shaw, Hannah's parents were John Coward and Phoebe nee Lindow.
I have the following as children of Myles Shaw and Hannah nee Coward -
John chr 23.2.1820
Agnes chr. 9.12.1821
Phoebe chr. 9.11.1823
Thomas chr. 11.9.25
William chr. 1.6.1828
James chr. 3.10.1830
Samuel chr. 11.11.1832
Richard chr. 2.11.1834
Hannah chr. 23.7.1837
Michael chr. 6.1.1840
In 1841 census, James, Samuel, Richard and Hannah are with their parents Miles and Hannah.
My tree is me, my mum Linda May Marland, grandad Frederick Shaw, great grandad Richard James Shaw, 2xg grandad William Shaw, 3x g grandad Richard Shaw, who is the son of Myles and Hannah
Regards
Catherine