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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Berwickshire => Topic started by: colinskene on Monday 07 November 11 20:27 GMT (UK)
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I am looking for contact from anyone who is / was connected with Bogend farm or Cairns Mill, near Duns in Berwickshire. My family names connected with this place are Skene, Virtue, Spark, Nelson, Dickson, Graham, MacDonald and Brown.
I have hundreds of photos with unidentified family members and I would love to put names to faces or hear any stories about Bogend or the surrounding area
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My great grandfather William Fletcher Mitchell was born at Bogend farm in 1857. He grew up in the servants house but on the 1881 census he is working as a carter at Cairns mill. In 1885 he married Margaret Scott and moved to Jarrow on Tyne and worked in the ship yards until he died in 1916 aged 59.
His parents James and Euphemia Mitchell (nee Smith) came to Bogend some time between 1851 and 1861 where James worked as a shepherd until he died in 1898 aged 76.
I know it's a long shot but it would be great to see a photo of my great grandfather as we don't have any.
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Mt G G Grandmother Jane Renton nee Fair widow of William Renton
died at Bogend in March 1890.
Most of her relatives were living nearby.
Son in law Robert Jenkinson was a farm labourer with wife Hellen Renton at Fogo House in 1881.
Grandson Thomas Jenkinson was Farm Grieve at Sisterpath Fogo in 1911.
Grandaughter Isabella Jenkinson & Husband Thomas Newton were also at Sisterpath in 1911.
They all seemed to be in the Fogo area over a 20 year period.
My late Grandfather R J Aitchison visited relatives at Bogend throughout the 1920's & 30's. However we don't really know who they were?
Aitch
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Here is the link to the photos
https://picasaweb.google.com/116963551176633460079/Bogend
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Hello Colin,
My great-great-grandfather William JEFFREY was born at Bogend Farm on 14 Nov 1825. His parents were William JEFFREY (a farmer) (also spelt Jaffray) and Barbara JARDINE. He married Alice DICKSON, daughter of George DICKSON of Kilham, Northumberland, in Coldstream in 1851. The Jeffrey and Dickson families emigrated to Victoria, Australia in 1858.
If anyone has ever contacted you about these family names in any of your forums, I'd love to hear from you.
Many thanks,
Lois
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Hi Colin, we have been in contact before, several years ago.
With regards to the last message I have Agnes Jeffery, born 1786 at Polworth who married a Peter Virtue around 1805 ish, and had 7 children between 1810 and 1828, and I beleive you may be decended through that line
regards
JB
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I have a Katherine Steele of Bogend marrying an Andrew Jeffrey, Smith in Rayslaw, 20 June 1760.
I'm actually a few miles away from Bogend currently, and could take a few photos if anyone's interested. But will only be here today.
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Mt G G Grandmother Jane Renton nee Fair widow of William Renton
died at Bogend in March 1890.
Most of her relatives were living nearby.
Son in law Robert Jenkinson was a farm labourer with wife Hellen Renton at Fogo House in 1881.
Grandson Thomas Jenkinson was Farm Grieve at Sisterpath Fogo in 1911.
Grandaughter Isabella Jenkinson & Husband Thomas Newton were also at Sisterpath in 1911.
They all seemed to be in the Fogo area over a 20 year period.
My late Grandfather R J Aitchison visited relatives at Bogend throughout the 1920's & 30's. However we don't really know who they were?
Aitch
Hi Aitch. Check out this photo of a meeting in Berwickshire
https://photos.app.goo.gl/Eit5YAyKFHmYXpnu2
The lady, second from right on front row is Mrs Aitchison from Bogend, Duns. She was Eck, the "herd's" wife. Maybe related to you perhaps
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Hello Colin,
My great-great-grandfather William JEFFREY was born at Bogend Farm on 14 Nov 1825. His parents were William JEFFREY (a farmer) (also spelt Jaffray) and Barbara JARDINE. He married Alice DICKSON, daughter of George DICKSON of Kilham, Northumberland, in Coldstream in 1851. The Jeffrey and Dickson families emigrated to Victoria, Australia in 1858.
If anyone has ever contacted you about these family names in any of your forums, I'd love to hear from you.
Many thanks,
Lois
Hi Lois
William Jeffrey is my GGG grandfather as well!
Be grateful to hear from you with what info you have, I can fill in quite a few gaps moving forward from 1825 regarding William and all the William's that follow!
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Hi there - Luke is it?
Always good to hear from a cousin. Would you believe I'd just been going through some of my Jeffrey DNA matches on Ancestry and wondering who they all are when your message came through!
My grandfather was Mathew Davison Jeffrey, son of the second William (b 1851). Mathew married Christina Gertrude Emily Dames and they lived in Glen Park on the outskirts of Ballarat. How do you yourself fit into the vast Jeffrey tree? Considering the comment you made, I'm thinking probably from my grandfather's brother William? I can see on one of the extensive family trees on Ancestry that they had at least 12 children (one called William of course!). My grandparents had 16 (but no Williams)!
Last year I visited the areas in Scotland where the Jeffreys and Dicksons came from. Such a marvellous experience.
Let me know what sort of info you'd like to have and I can see what I've got.
Lois
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Hi there - Luke is it?
Always good to hear from a cousin. Would you believe I'd just been going through some of my Jeffrey DNA matches on Ancestry and wondering who they all are when your message came through!
My grandfather was Mathew Davison Jeffrey, son of the second William (b 1851). Mathew married Christina Gertrude Emily Dames and they lived in Glen Park on the outskirts of Ballarat. How do you yourself fit into the vast Jeffrey tree? Considering the comment you made, I'm thinking probably from my grandfather's brother William? I can see on one of the extensive family trees on Ancestry that they had at least 12 children (one called William of course!). My grandparents had 16 (but no Williams)!
Last year I visited the areas in Scotland where the Jeffreys and Dicksons came from. Such a marvellous experience.
Let me know what sort of info you'd like to have and I can see what I've got.
Lois
Hi Lois
Yes it’s Luke,Luke Jeffrey!
Great to hear from you! So......William Jeffrey & Alice Dickson had children...including a William...who had children including a William! Who had children including a William who....is my Grandfather!
Amongst all that the Second William migrated to Victoria and My Grandfather William was born outside of Ballarat in a place called Bungaree.My Dad born in Ballarat and I myself born in Bendigo,but grew up in Ballarat.
In a twist of fate I am now married and living with my Scottish wife and family on the East coast of Scotland and bogshead farm is just a short drive!
This is all very new to us as the hunt for information has been started by my cousin,the Daughter of my Uncle William! Who has done some good work which we are waiting to receive in the post.At that point I can give you lots more information and would love to hear of all your efforts!
Cheers and look forward to hearing from you
Luke
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Hi Lois
Have received a very nice book from my cousin filled with all sorts of info about the Jeffrey clan.Including Matthew Davison.....Interestingly enough,my info has Mathews siblings names and but the potential stick in the mud with this is that Mathew died aged 13 according to the info I have(1863-1876) Makes for interesting follow up for your GGG g’ father don’t you think?
Is it a simple as a typo? And if so who’s?Investigators on the case here...
Anyway as I have it William and Alice arrived on the “Tornado” in August 1858 with Alices father,her siblings and their children,including William,my GGG Grandfather the eldest son who’s younger brother Matthew (your GGG)born in Australia in 1863.
Lots of other dates etc including a lovely photo of a watch William was awarded in 1884 for showing the best “Leicester ram” at the Ballarat show along with newspaper excerpt.Are you familiar with a place “Coimadai” which is the farm they were on.
Be great to hear from you and we can cross reference some dates etc and solve the mystery..hopefully!
Hi there - Luke is it?
Always good to hear from a cousin. Would you believe I'd just been going through some of my Jeffrey DNA matches on Ancestry and wondering who they all are when your message came through!
My grandfather was Mathew Davison Jeffrey, son of the second William (b 1851). Mathew married Christina Gertrude Emily Dames and they lived in Glen Park on the outskirts of Ballarat. How do you yourself fit into the vast Jeffrey tree? Considering the comment you made, I'm thinking probably from my grandfather's brother William? I can see on one of the extensive family trees on Ancestry that they had at least 12 children (one called William of course!). My grandparents had 16 (but no Williams)!
Last year I visited the areas in Scotland where the Jeffreys and Dicksons came from. Such a marvellous experience.
Let me know what sort of info you'd like to have and I can see what I've got.
Lois
Hi Lois
Yes it’s Luke,Luke Jeffrey!
Great to hear from you! So......William Jeffrey & Alice Dickson had children...including a William...who had children including a William! Who had children including a William who....is my Grandfather!
Amongst all that the Second William migrated to Victoria and My Grandfather William was born outside of Ballarat in a place called Bungaree.My Dad born in Ballarat and I myself born in Bendigo,but grew up in Ballarat.
In a twist of fate I am now married and living with my Scottish wife and family on the East coast of Scotland and bogshead farm is just a short drive!
This is all very new to us as the hunt for information has been started by my cousin,the Daughter of my Uncle William! Who has done some good work which we are waiting to receive in the post.At that point I can give you lots more information and would love to hear of all your efforts!
Cheers and look forward to hearing from you
Luke
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Hi Luke,
Here I am, finally - I haven't forgotten you. Thanks for your last two messages - that's amazing that you're now living a short distance from Bogend Farm. Did you know that's where your ancestors were from before you moved there?
As I mentioned, I drove all around that area last year, leaping around ancient graveyards searching for ancestral headstones, and one of my exciting finds was the grave of our 4x and 5xgrt grandparents George Dickson & Jane Mosman. The headstone is barely legible, if at all, but the inscription (and photo) can be found on the Lennel Cemetery page of the Coldstream History Society website (God bless them for their great work):
"Lennel Kirkyard
Middle – Row 21 – 12 – Dixon/Yule/Mosman/Dickson/Pringle
Transcription:
Sacred to the memory of JANE DIXON wife of WILLIAM YULE who died 10 December 1874 in her 74th year. (On the rear, which is unreadable) In memory of JANE PRINGLE spouse to GEORGE DICKSON died 26 August 1795 aged 28 years. Also MARGARET daughter died 8 June 1810 aged 12 years. Also GEORGE DICKSON died 17 February 1829 aged 71 years. Also his wife JANE MOSMAN died 18 August 1839 aged 80 years."
The grave was very hard to find but I persisted (in blustery heat would you believe). If you ever go there and are unable to find it, let me know and I can send you a little video I took the day I was there which might help you find it. Lennel Cemetery is just outside the town of Coldstream.
Sounds like you've caught the family history bug from your cousin! Once you start there's no looking back (or perhaps I should say looking back is all you do!). It gets confusing when you come across so many ancestors with the same names, such as with Matthew Davison Jeffrey 1863-1876. He was the son of William Jeffrey & Alice Dickson and died of scarlet fever. Four years later their son William & wife Mary Ann Lloyd named their second son Matthew Davison Jeffrey 1880-1947 (my grandfather). Sadly, William & Alice also lost two of their young daughters, Alice & Barbara, who died of diphtheria two days apart in 1862. By the way, in case you ever wonder, THE Matthew Davison was Jane Dickson's husband. They came on the ship with the rest of the family but never had children.
Yes, I've seen the name Coimadai which is part of Bacchus Marsh where William & Alice and family lived on a property called Glencairn. I once visited the Bacchus Marsh Historical Society where I photocopied a bunch of documents and articles about the Jeffrey/Dickson families (I don't remember a picture of the watch though). Lots of Jeffrey/Dickson graves can be found at Maddingley Cemetery, BM. I've also seen some excellent family trees on Ancestry if you ever have access, some of them with photos of people attached too. Subscriptions are rather expensive but usually free to access in libraries. Does your book contain any pictures of William & Alice? If not, I can send you some if you like.
Email me - lois 'at' rabbit 'dot' com 'dot' au - if you're interested in any particular documents that I may have and can send you.
Cheers,
Lois