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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Topic started by: AnnMBO on Tuesday 08 November 11 00:22 GMT (UK)
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I am looking for older or new connections. This is the information I have gathered from family members or online (someone did a complete family tree from William forward...thank you). I have posted below William and his children and I would like to try to find his siblings, parents etc. Although he was born in England, rumour has it we are connected to the Ireland Butler's also. We are told that records were distroyed in a fire, thus "William" was as far as we could trace. I am told he came to to North america with 2 bothers...one went to NL and the other to the North Shore (where ever that may be)...so here goes.
My famiy has collected the following, my direct line is his son Charles William Butler:
WILLIAM' BUTLER was born May 09, 1818 in England, and died February 17, 1905 in Murphy Cove, Nova Scotia. He married MARY ANN STOKES Abt. 1851 in Ship Harbour, Nova Scotia.
Notes for WILLIAM BUTLER: William Butler of Pleasant Harbour who died Feb 16th, was this day interred in St. Peter's Churchyard. Aged 86 years, 9 months. Rev A. H. Jyers, Rector of Ship Harbour. Feb 20, 1905
Notes for MARY ANN STOKES:
Butler, of West Pleasant Harbour died on July 14 1904 and was buried by me in the new Pleasant Harbour Church yard on Saturday, 16th July aged 73 years.
Children of WILLIAM BUTLER and MARY STOKES are:
ELLEN L.2 BUTLER, b. April 23, 1852, Pleasant Harbour, Nova Scotia; d. October 02, 1928, Traverse City, Michigan.
JEMIMA BUTLER, b. February 25, 1854, Ship Harbour, Nova Scotia; d. June 08, 1924, Halifax, NS.
MARY ANN BUTLER, b. November 16,1856, Murphy Cove, Nova Scotia; d. January 24, 1940, Murphy Cove, Nova Scotia.
ELIZA ADELAIDE BUTLER, b. September 02,1858, Ship Harbour, Nova Scotia.
EDWARD WALTER BUTLER, b. July 14, 1862, Shoal Bay, Nova Scotia3; d. May 11,1889.
Notes for EDWARD WALTER BUTLER: Edward Walter Butler of Pleasant Harbour was this day interred in Holy Trinity Church cemetery, Tangier. Aged 26 years. May 11, 1889 Edward Ball, Rector
SUSAN MARIE BUTLER, b. June 21, 1863, Murphy Cove, Nova Scotia; d. September 10, 1940, Murphy Cove, Nova Scotia.
CHARLES WILLIAM BUTLER, b. September 29, 1864, Shoal Bay, Nova Scotia; d. March 09, 1934.
LETTIE CELESTIA BUTLER, b. October 22, 1868, Murphy Cove, Nova Scotia; d. January 30, 1958, Murphy Cove, Nova Scotia.
JAMES ALLEN BUTLER, b. October 26, 1869; d. June 07, 1929, VG Hospital, Halifax, NS.
GEORGE FOSTER BUTLER, b. October 04, 1875, Murphy Cove, Nova Scotia; d. December 16, 1949, Halifax, NS.
REUBEN JOHN BUTLER, b. April 27, 1876; d. September 21, 1944, Dartmouth, Nova Scotia.
Information I have found online thus far:
(DS6) William Butler b.1818 - from the Butler's Society website
William Butler, born 9/5/1818 "within the sound of Bow Bells"(this the traditional definition of a Cockney, [who live in the East End of London]), departed England 1845 and arrived Nova Scotia c.1849. He married a British girl, Mary Ann Stokes, born 27/12/1831 who is said to have been raised on Jamaica. Information sought on ancestors of both.
This is from Geneology.com from 1999 - One family story indicates my great-grandfather William Butler b. 1818 in England left the UK with a brother and settled in New York for a short time. It is said they had a falling out and while my GGFather came to NS his brother went to Newfoundland. Have never been able to determine the validity of this account.
Any help from William onward or even the newer generations such as myself. ;D
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There is a William Butler who was baptised at Spitalfields Christ Church with St Mary and St Stephen, on 8 Nov 1818. His parents were Edward and Mary of Montague St, he was a weaver.
There is a William Valentine Butler who was baptised at Westminster St Mary Le Strand on 31 March 1820. His parents were Charles and Margaret of 82 Drury Lane, he was a printer.
I cant say whether either of these are within the sound of Bow bells, but as you have their streets you should be able to see if either of these are possibles.
There are also 2 William Butlers that were baptised before 1818.
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Is this your family?
1871 Canada Census.
Popes Harbour Halifax East Nova Scotia
William Butler 48 Miner born England
Mary 37
Ellen 18
Jemima 16
Mary 14
Adelaide 12
Susan 10
Walter 8
William 5
James 4
Leticia 2
William snr giving an age which makes him born circa 1823. Did he do this because his wife was much younger? Also the enumerator has William snr and Mary snr as being born in NS. Enumerators mistake?
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1891 Tangiers Bay Halifax Nova Scotia
William Butler 73 born England Fisherman both parents born England
Mary Ann wife 58 born NS both parents born NS
James 25 Miner
Lettie 22 domestic
George 19 Fisherman
Ruben 16 Fisherman.
So William now born 1818 in England.
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Hi,
Re William's brothers: the "North Shore" might refer to the Quebec Lower North Shore which is basically the coast of Quebec between Blanc-Sablon and Kegaska. The upper part is just across the strait from Newfoundland and there was some migration back and forth. Rootsweb has a fairly comprehensive site on the region, including census and parish records. http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~qclns/
If you have access to Anc**try, you can also checkthe Drouin collection, which is a comprehensive collection of Quebec vital statistics.
Jennifer.
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You would need to verify the source of the information regarding his birthdate, and having been born "within the sound of the Bow Bells".
I would start with what you know for sure, and only use the other info as a starting point for your searching.
Darren
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I am unfamiliar with Canadian records; would William and Mary Ann's marriage record not show parents, or at least fathers?
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Possibly not - it would depend on the province.
J.
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It's the same here in Australia. Victoria, and to a lesser extent NSW, are a genealogist's dream when it comes to the detail on their records. Unfortunately, SA is the opposite. :(
Darren
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I'm mainly researching in Newfoundland - same problem. It would be so much easier if the marriage records had parent's names. I've poked around in the Nova Scotia records a little, I think they sometimes (always?) include parent's names, so you might be lucky.
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What about newspaper obtuaries? Sometimes they offer information, such as birthplace if from overseas.
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Thanks all for the comments. I have not had much time to search or check for messages on here over the last little bit. Busy holiday season. I will take your advise and see if I can find anything there. The source on the family history is a relative that has spent a fair amount of time and money doing this research. Is it 100% accurate....not sure, but I would bet it is pretty close. I too have found other William Butlers with birthdates not exact, but other information did not line up with them. IE his children, wife...there was always something off.
Thanks so much...keep em coming!!
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I am the Butler descendant who has done most of the research you have accumulated from posts in several locations on the Internet. Born in; and having lived in; Nova Scotia all my life I have spent many hours at the Nova Scotia Public Archives over the past 23 years gleaning what I could from the records. William Butler and Mary Ann Stokes remain a "brick wall" to date (2018). Several new details have been discovered about their descendants but no hint of their origins other than "England". One of their grandchildren states that her mother's father (William) was born in Colchester, England; but, I have not been able to verify that.
Richard L Butler
Nova Scotia