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Title: trying to find my ancestor james mccoy
Post by: naul on Tuesday 08 November 11 18:24 GMT (UK)
i am trying to to trace  james  mccoy.he was born in ardee county louth ireland in 1868,emigrated to usa.have trawled through census,ships manifests etc,came across a lot of james  mccoys but no direct link to home town of ardee in louth ireland.really feel that i am up against a brick wall here.
Title: Re: trying to find my ancestor james mccoy
Post by: emmsthheight on Tuesday 08 November 11 18:49 GMT (UK)
Hi

Welcome to Rootschat!  Can you tell us a bit more?  You evidently have some information.  Do you have the baptism in Ardee?  Where did you learn that he was born in Ardee?

I might be wrong but I think I've used Ardee baptism records online?

Have you seen all the census and also looked at siblings?  One of them may have mentioned Ardee on an odd occasion?

Good luck and enjoy Rootschat!

Best wishes

Emms  :)
Title: Re: trying to find my ancestor james mccoy
Post by: naul on Tuesday 08 November 11 19:26 GMT (UK)
hello,i trawled through parish records in ardee and found his mother and father,brothers and sisters.one of his sisters ann also went to usa,came up against a brick wall there too.
Title: Re: trying to find my ancestor james mccoy
Post by: emmsthheight on Tuesday 08 November 11 19:34 GMT (UK)
Hi Naul

Is it the life in USA you're looking for?

 :)
Title: trying to trace ancestor james mccoy
Post by: naul on Tuesday 08 November 11 19:46 GMT (UK)
trying to trace ancestor james  mccoy,emigrated to usa.He was born in ardee county louth in 1868.came from a large family.his parents were bernard mccoy and catherine matthews.i have trawled through all the usual, census,ships manifest etc,lots of james mccoys but no direct connection to ardee county louth ireland.

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Title: Re: trying to find my ancestor james mccoy
Post by: naul on Tuesday 08 November 11 20:07 GMT (UK)
Sorry,my fault,I should have been more specific.Yes it is.
Title: Re: trying to trace ancestor james mccoy
Post by: janinez on Tuesday 08 November 11 20:32 GMT (UK)
I can see a James McCoy in Pontiac hospital in Michigan in 1930. He is aged 63 and an inmate there. It only has born Ireland, which if they were in another country is more than likely all you will get. Some of mine also just put born scotland etc.

Ref for census is: year 1930 /  census place = Pontiac, oakland, Michigan  /  roll 1017    /  page 9B 

any good?

will have a scout around and see what else I can see

oops sorry forgot to mention on the census it has he was single. Do you know if he married?

Title: Re: trying to trace ancestor james mccoy
Post by: naul on Tuesday 08 November 11 20:41 GMT (UK)
Hello,no i do not if he married or not.I came across same record a few weeks ago,really hope it is not him.Thanks for looking.
Title: Re: trying to trace ancestor james mccoy
Post by: janinez on Tuesday 08 November 11 21:17 GMT (UK)
If it is him is in in the same hospital in 1920 as a patient. Both mother and father are noted as Irish. He is still single. wonder if you can get hold of hospital records over there, archives of some sort? Just a thought. Will see if I can see any more.

The poor man must have been very sick as he is a patient there still in 1900...........

Did he have a sister Rose? I have found one in 1870 where a James McCoy is living with his sister Rose Begley and her family. Only 2 of her children with her if it is them. No husband for her on this one. It has he was born Ireland and the census date is 1925. they are in Kansas ...................
Title: Re: trying to trace ancestor james mccoy
Post by: naul on Tuesday 08 November 11 21:54 GMT (UK)
No sister called Rose,James was born in 1868 and still living in Ireland in 1870.Regarding hospital records,was told that it was very unlikely that any have survived.
Title: Re: trying to find my ancestor james mccoy
Post by: naul on Wednesday 09 November 11 11:07 GMT (UK)
Addition to original post.Found a James Mccoy in the 1910 census for Pennsylvania,age fits as to year he would have been born  in Ireland.Married to Ellen,has son John and two daughters Ellen and Mary.He is a lumberer.How do i make sure he is the real mccoy,i know,i know.
Title: Re: trying to find my ancestor james mccoy
Post by: janinez on Wednesday 09 November 11 21:38 GMT (UK)
Hi there

I would think that thee marriage cert would show you his parents. that is the only way I know of checking for sure. Someone else might have a better idea. Oh what about the igi, have you checked on there? The family search web site, it may have the marriage if your lucky and even luckier if it has the parents listed too.

good luck
Janine
Title: Re: trying to find my ancestor james mccoy
Post by: naul on Thursday 10 November 11 21:48 GMT (UK)
Hello Janine,Thank you for taking the time.Hugh
Title: Re: trying to find my ancestor james mccoy
Post by: johnnyboy on Friday 11 November 11 23:42 GMT (UK)
Addition to original post.Found a James Mccoy in the 1910 census for Pennsylvania,age fits as to year he would have been born  in Ireland.Married to Ellen,has son John and two daughters Ellen and Mary.He is a lumberer.How do i make sure he is the real mccoy,i know,i know.

One possibility for the James McCoy you found in the 1910 is a marriage of James McCoy to Ellen Quinn in Philadelphia in 1897.

If you've seen the actual 1910 census image, it might have a column for age at marriage or the year of marriage or the number of years married.

You can see James McCoy's marriage to Ellen Quinn by going to the Philadelphia, Pennsylvania marriage index on the FamilySearch website at https://www.familysearch.org/search/collection/list#page=1&region=NORTH_AMERICA

Unfortunately, you won't get to see a marriage license. But you can search both names to verify that the marriage certificate number is the same for the two of them.

In any case, you can't be sure if this is your James McCoy. One way to find birth information for James McCoy is to search for some indication that he was naturalized as a U.S. citizen and get hold of the naturalization papers. The 1920 and 1930 censuses might have that information--assuming that he lived to be counted in those years and that you find the real McCoy.

John  :o :o :o
Title: Re: trying to find my ancestor james mccoy
Post by: johnnyboy on Friday 11 November 11 23:45 GMT (UK)
In the 1920 census index, James and Ellen McCoy are still in Philadelphia, with children John, Ellen and Marie (instead of Mary). Found this in the 120 census index on FamilySearch. Someone should check the original on Ancestry.

To see the index entry, go to https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/MF1D-LY9

John  :o :o :o
Title: Re: trying to find my ancestor james mccoy
Post by: johnnyboy on Saturday 12 November 11 00:16 GMT (UK)
The 1930 census has James McCoy in Philadelphia, born 1870, immigrated 1884, widowed, living as a lodger, born in "northern Ireland." He's a lot older than James should be.

You can see the index entry for James at https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.2/1BSG-S79/p_10406219667

There is a John McCoy born 11899/900 who might be the son of James and Ellen: https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.2/1BSL-R2S/p_10406176705

John  :o :o :o
Title: Re: trying to find my ancestor james mccoy
Post by: naul on Thursday 17 November 11 12:19 GMT (UK)
Hello John,Sorry it took so long to reply .Thanks very much for info.I seem to recall a James Mccoy b.1868,Ireland.He lived in Philadelphia Ward 18 ,immigrated in 1891.Could be a strong candidate.Hugh.
Title: Re: trying to find my ancestor james mccoy
Post by: naul on Friday 25 November 11 11:55 GMT (UK)
With the exception of the usual routes,all of which i think i have exausted by now,is there any other way i can try and trace my great uncle James Mccoy.