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Title: Bank house 203 Blackburn road haslingdn
Post by: Curious George on Thursday 10 November 11 00:49 GMT (UK)
Please can any one help me. I am currently buying this property and I would like to know anything about it. I believe it belonged to a mill owner in the 1800.

I am very intrigued.

Can anyone help me?
Title: Re: Bank house 203 Blackburn road haslingdn
Post by: Morganllan on Thursday 10 November 11 02:14 GMT (UK)
Hello Curious George  :)

Welcome to Rootschat!

There were 2 families with address Bank House, Haslingden in 1881

Martha Maxwell Head age 58 Cotton Manufacturers Widow  born Haslingden
Alice Ann Maxwell Daughter    age 25 Cotton Manufacturers Dau    born Haslingden
James Maxwell Son age 22 Cotton Manufacturer born Haslingden
Martha Ellen Maxwell Daughter age 17 Cotton Manufacturer Dau born    Haslingden
Thomas Maxwell    Son age 13 Scholar born Haslingden
Maria Chew Servant age 37 General Servant Domestic born Haslingden

RG11 Piece 4137/22 Page 37

and

Ellen Rawstron Head age 66 born Haslingden
Amelia Rawstron Daughter age 29 Assistant born Haslingden
A Livesy Rawstron Son age 27 Cotton Manufacturer    born Haslingden
Elizabeth Ratcliffe Servant age 21 Domestic Servant born   Isle of Man
Edith Fox Servant age 21 Domestic Servant born Hereford

RG11 Piece 4138/114 Page 27         
Title: Re: Bank house 203 Blackburn road haslingdn
Post by: Morganllan on Thursday 10 November 11 02:33 GMT (UK)
I notice that a Bank House, Haslingden, appears on the Lancashire Paranormal Database  :o

Once you complete the purchase, you should be able to obtain information about previous owners from the Land Registry. The local Record Office may have some interesting records also.

See this thread on History of Houses:
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,491856.0.html
Title: Re: Bank house 203 Blackburn road haslingdn
Post by: Morganllan on Thursday 10 November 11 02:44 GMT (UK)
Ellen Rawstron was also there with her family in 1871

Bank House, Old Laneside, Haslingden

Ellen Head age 56 Annuitant
William Stepson age 27 Cotton Manufacturer
James  Stepson age 26  Cotton Manufacturer
Ellen   Dau age 20
Amelia  Dau age 19
Livesy  Son age 17
Mary  Dau age 14
Eleanor Golloghy Servant age 26 Domestic Servant

RG10 Piece 4141 Folio 49 Page 28
Title: Re: Bank house 203 Blackburn road haslingdn
Post by: Morganllan on Thursday 10 November 11 02:50 GMT (UK)
1861

Bank House
    
Thomas Raustron Head age 46 Cotton Spinner? & ? Manufacturer Born Bury
Ellen Raustron Wife age 46
John Ormerod Son age 24 Manufacturer (Cotton)
Thomas L Ormerod Son age 22 Manufacturer (Cotton)
Mary A Ormerod Dau age 17
William Raustron Son age 17
James Raustron Son age 16
Ellen Raustron Dau age 10
Emelia A Rawstron Dau age   9
Adam L Rawstron Son age 7
Mary A Rawstron Dau age 4

RG9 Piece 3061 Folio 62 Page 26

Also found marriage of Ellen Ormerod and Thomas Rawstron in 1850
Bury volume 21 page 217
Title: Re: Bank house 203 Blackburn road haslingdn
Post by: Morganllan on Thursday 10 November 11 03:09 GMT (UK)
You can search for Baptisms, Marriages, and Burials on Lancashire OPC:

http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/Search/indexp.html

With a quick search I found the Baptisms for Ellen Rawstron in 1851, and Amelia Ann Rawstron in 1852. Thomas's occupation is given as Cotton Manufacturer and address Laneside, Haslingden

Also James Rawstron, son of Thomas and Mary Rostrom in 1844 is likely match.
Thomas was a Manufacturer. Address Alden, Holcombe, Lancashire

William was Baptised in 1844

You can search for post-1837 births, marriages, and deaths on Lancashire BMD:
http://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk/index.php

Title: Re: Bank house 203 Blackburn road haslingdn
Post by: BashLad on Thursday 10 November 11 22:09 GMT (UK)
 ;D The most haunted house in the region! Or something.
Title: Re: Bank house 203 Blackburn road haslingdn
Post by: BashLad on Thursday 10 November 11 22:12 GMT (UK)
I'll ask grandma next time I see her. She'll probably know something - she's always lived in haslingden.
Title: Re: Bank house 203 Blackburn road haslingdn
Post by: Hassy Girl on Friday 11 November 11 20:11 GMT (UK)
Between 1841 and 1911 there were 4 seperate entries for a residence known as Bank House in Haslingden. The 2 mentioned in the earlier census details posted were the one at Laneside and the One "Up Grane". The house in question in the original enquiry was and still is located on Blackburn Road in Haslingden and was in the census for 1891, 1901 and 1911.

Title: Re: Bank house 203 Blackburn road haslingdn
Post by: Curious George on Saturday 12 November 11 23:08 GMT (UK)
Thank you for all your very kind help and research.

However I am still a little confused. The house I am buying, Bank House was built in 1840 I believe. The mill owner that owned it originally, owned the mill across the road from it. The mill is still there as you can see it from the front window of the house.
I don,t know what this mill is called though, and I,m sure that this would help me with my investigations.
I think that the family may have been called Parkinson, as this is what the current owner has told me
I am just really intrigued about this beautiful house and would love to know the history of it, see old picture of it and the families that resided there etc.

And yes, I do believe it to be a haunted property (but I only found this out after I proceeded to purchase it!). I believe there was a television documentary made about the house in the 1980's regarding the hauntings.

This is also a reason for why I want to find out any history of his house
Title: Re: Bank house 203 Blackburn road haslingdn
Post by: BashLad on Sunday 13 November 11 00:39 GMT (UK)
The mill you can see from the bypass? That's Britannia Mill. My book on Rossendale mills tells me that was built by a Hargreaves family 1855-1856.

That said there was also a Barnes Mill (bottom of barnes st now and now a glorified car park cum scrapyard - built by a Barnes family) and a Carr Mill (built 1824-45 by John Moss of Manchester) an Albert Mill (built 1859 by Halstead and Anderton) and a Victoria Mill (built 1854 by the ancient order of foresters - leased to a stott family) all next door to each other (at various points in time!) also in the area.
Title: Re: Bank house 203 Blackburn road haslingdn
Post by: mosiefish on Sunday 13 November 11 00:55 GMT (UK)
Hi,

This is the 1891 census for Bank House, Blackburn Road, Haslingden
Listed between 201 and 205 Blackburn Road

Richard Parkinson, Head, married, 60, Wholesale Draper, Haslingden
Ellen, Wife, Mar, 46, Manchester
Thomas, Son, 23, Wholesale Draper, Haslingden
Ada, Daur, 18, Pupil Teacher, Haslingden
Fanny, Daur, 14, Scholar, Haslingden

Ellen and family were still living there in 1901 and just Thomas and his sisters in the later census.  In 1901 Thomas was listed as a Print Waste Merchant. In the 1881 census they were living at 163 Blackburn Road, Haslingden.  There does not appear to be a 203 or Bank House on Blackburn Road  listed in 1881.

Regards,
Mo
Title: Re: Bank house 203 Blackburn road haslingdn
Post by: Curious George on Sunday 13 November 11 22:06 GMT (UK)
Thank you once again for your help.

I think I need to do some more groundwork, as to what mill was owned by the family, and indeed what the original family were called etc etc.

But any more info is appreciated.
Title: Re: Bank house 203 Blackburn road haslingdn
Post by: Footo on Monday 14 November 11 00:34 GMT (UK)
The area is Holden Vale where Haslingden train station used to be. BashLad is right with his list of mills in that area some details can be found on this document  http://www.lancashire.gov.uk/environment/documents/historictowns/HaslingdenComplete_LowRes.pdf
pages 22,23 and 25 (actual page no's) - page 23 has a picture of the area and on page 25 in the section about other industries it states that Blackburn Rd was called New Road prior to 1891 which you can see on the old maps of the area.

You might also consider asking on Rossendale online in the history/expats section - I've always found them to be full of info and very helpful about the area  http://www.rossendaleonline.co.uk/forum_index.php
Title: Re: Bank house 203 Blackburn road haslingdn
Post by: Morganllan on Monday 14 November 11 23:23 GMT (UK)
Apologies if I have given details of the "wrong" Bank House. Hopefully you will have more information from the old deeds once the sale is complete.

This blog has some photos of the area:
http://haslingdens.blogspot.com/2008_11_01_archive.html

Richard and Ellen Parkinson and family were also listed at Blackburn Road in 1871
RG10 Piece 4140 Folio 77 Page 6

There's a map of 1890s Haslingen here (Bank House area of Blackburn Road at top right of map):
http://www.lancashire.gov.uk/environment/oldmap/towns/hasling/hasling.jpg

Best wishes
Morgan
Title: Re: Bank house 203 Blackburn road haslingdn
Post by: BashLad on Tuesday 15 November 11 23:15 GMT (UK)
Apparently it's known  for having a poltergeist and there's been various articles about it in the free press over the years.  ;D
Title: Bank house 203 Blackburn road haslingdn
Post by: mtbadger on Sunday 04 March 12 15:16 GMT (UK)
Hi George. I have stumbled across your post quite by accident. Have you found out any more about the property you have purchased? and have you moved in yet? I have come across some interesting information in a book, regarding the hauntings of the property.
Title: Re: Bank house 203 Blackburn road haslingdn
Post by: Bank house on Thursday 17 May 12 21:41 BST (UK)
Hi, I am the current owner of Bank House and am very intrigued by your post, would love to know more about it's history and the hauntings..
Title: Re: Bank house 203 Blackburn road haslingdn
Post by: mtbadger on Sunday 19 January 14 12:17 GMT (UK)
Hi, i didnt realise my post had been replied to, email notification musn't have been working.
Title: Re: Bank house 203 Blackburn road haslingdn
Post by: mtbadger on Sunday 19 January 14 12:20 GMT (UK)
Hi, I am the current owner of Bank House and am very intrigued by your post, would love to know more about it's history and the hauntings..

Bank House, are you still living there, its been nearly a year, or have the hauntings made you flee?

If you're still interested i can see if i can find that book your property is mentioned in.
Title: Re: Bank house 203 Blackburn road haslingdn
Post by: Ian Ashman on Wednesday 05 June 19 19:48 BST (UK)
Hi,  my. Mum is a Parkinson and grew up in the house she still lives in haslingden and knows alot of the history is there away to private message on here?

Ian
Title: Re: Bank house 203 Blackburn road haslingdn
Post by: Maiden Stone on Wednesday 05 June 19 21:41 BST (UK)
Welcome to RootsChat, Ian. When you've made a couple more posts you can use the private message option. Can you tell us something about Bank House which isn't private e.g. doesn't concern living people?
Title: Re: Bank house 203 Blackburn road haslingdn
Post by: Ian Ashman on Thursday 06 June 19 10:07 BST (UK)
Bank house featured in a series on Lancashire ghosts in the 1980's, and in a book Lancashire ghosts and legends. Alot of the facts were wrong though. For example the originally owner did not own a mill.
Ian
Title: Re: Bank house 203 Blackburn road haslingdn
Post by: Maiden Stone on Thursday 06 June 19 16:23 BST (UK)
Who were the original owners?
Some contributors to this thread have not been back on RootsChat since. If they haven't changed their email addresses and their email notifications have remained switched on , they should receive a message that there has been a new reply to the thread.
Links given in some posts no longer work, at least they didn't work for me.
Ordnance Survey map of Haslingden, published mid-1840s is among National Library of Scotland online collection. There are also later maps. They can be compared side-by-side.
Title: Re: Bank house 203 Blackburn road haslingdn
Post by: Ian Ashman on Thursday 06 June 19 18:44 BST (UK)
I think it was my great great grandfather, Ihave to admit I get confused by the number of greats and the name Richard is in every generation, Richard horricks Parkinson. He built bank house and the attached houses. Bank house sticks out slightly with a side window we think it was so he could keep an eye on his tenants.
The house stayed in the family until 1973.
Ian
Title: Re: Bank house 203 Blackburn road haslingdn
Post by: Maiden Stone on Thursday 06 June 19 19:34 BST (UK)
This is the 1891 census for Bank House, Blackburn Road, Haslingden
Listed between 201 and 205 Blackburn Road

Richard Parkinson, Head, married, 60, Wholesale Draper, Haslingden
Ellen, Wife, Mar, 46, Manchester
Thomas, Son, 23, Wholesale Draper, Haslingden
Ada, Daur, 18, Pupil Teacher, Haslingden
Fanny, Daur, 14, Scholar, Haslingden

Ellen and family were still living there in 1901 and just Thomas and his sisters in the later census.  In 1901 Thomas was listed as a Print Waste Merchant. In the 1881 census they were living at 163 Blackburn Road, Haslingden.  There does not appear to be a 203 or Bank House on Blackburn Road  listed in 1881
Was that the same Richard?
Title: Re: Bank house 203 Blackburn road haslingdn
Post by: Maiden Stone on Thursday 06 June 19 20:06 BST (UK)
Birth registrations from Lancashire BMD. All registered in Haslingden sub- district with mother's maiden surname Horrocks or Horrix.
 1865 Richard; 1867 Thomas; 1873 Ada; 1877 Fanny.
Marriage St. Mary, Bury 1864 Richard Parkinson and Ellen Horrock (Lancashire BMD)

From LANOPC:
Marriage 7th September 1864, St. Mary the Virgin, Bury
Richard Parkinson, 35, manufacturer, bachelor, Bury
Ellen Horrocks, 24, spinster, Bury
Groom's father Richard Parkinson, manufacturer
Bride's father Richard Horrocks, calico manufacturer
Married by certificate

Children baptised at St. James, Blackburn,
Richard Horrocks Parkinson 1865 and Thomas 1867, abode Haslingden, father's occupation manufacturer.
Ada Feb. 1873 abode Blackburn Road, father's occupation wholesale draper.
Fanny 1877, abode Magdelen ? Bank, Blackburn Rd., father's occupation wholesale draper.
Transcriptions on LANOPC. Transcriber was unsure about the word before "Bank".