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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Wiltshire => Topic started by: achooo on Friday 11 November 11 18:36 GMT (UK)
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im trying to trace anything on bessie nee frankmam died 1996 dont know proper age beleived to have been 94 years old born at devises her mother was charity and father albert frankham
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albert and charity are from alton hampshire area,im told they also used name ranscum/ranskom/?wether charity was ranscome ?
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I cant see an Albert Frankham marriage to any Charity at all.
Nor can I see an Albert Frankham on 1901 with a wife Charity.
Charity Rans* (using wildcard) brings no results on 1901 either.
Where does your information come from?
Was Bessie always a Bessie or was she Elizabeth?
HAve you got her marriage cert giving her dad's name as ALbert? Did he have a middle name?
Was she this marriage -
Ap/May/Jun 1921
Melksham Wiltshire 5a 251
Bessie Frankham / Mr webb
There is an ALbert Frankham with a wife ROSE in Trowbridge (in Melksham Reg District) on 1901 census, with children - could they be the parents of Bessie?
I see a birth of a Charity Frankham in 1902 - could it be that BESSIE was actually Charity?
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Hi,
FreeBMD has the death of a Charity Frankham:
Charity Frankham SeptQ 1948 Trowbridge 7c 461 Age shown = 83
Nanny Jan
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yes bessie did marry harry webb.and that charity could be her mother
i have info from an aunt but she cant remember much thankyou for your help is there more please
we believe charity was a ranscombe/ranscom ?
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Hi,
Possible marriage (from FreeBMD):
William Frankham SeptQ 1901 Alton 2c 384
Bride: Charity Smith
Nanny Jan
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please forgive me iv just found out from one family member bessies father was william {bill}frankham and he was married at alton to charity ,who was previously married to a smith,is there anything on this line please
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Hi everyone,
This would fit with the marriage registration lizdb posted :
Marriage Date: 16th May 1921
Bessie Frankham
Father : William Frankham
Spouse : Harry Webb
Spouse's Father : John Webb
Saint James', Trowbridge
Wiltshire
Pels.
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I see a birth of a Charity Frankham in 1902 - could it be that BESSIE was actually Charity?
The father of this Charity was called Thomas. Charity had a sister called Betsy, her birth was registered 1906, in Fordingbridge.
We don't seem to be getting a great deal closer achooo, but keeping fingers crossed something might turn up.
Pels.
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bessies father was william (bill)francome from alton hampshire mother charity thankyou for your help are they in any cencus as i know nothing of william frankham i dont know how to change name on board know
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Nanny Jan found the marriage of William Frankham to Charity Smith in reply #5
That appears to be Bessie's parents based on the info you have given. And the marriage was after 1901 census.
There are a surprisingly large number of Charity Smiths in 1901 census.
It would be worth you looking for the family in 1911, to see a) how old William and Charity are, b) where they were born, and c) to see if Bessie is there and therefore to get more detials about her.
Given that you think Charity Smith had been married before, you may need to get the marriage cert to find her father's name.
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I am finding this thread slightly hard to follow, but could this be the death referred to in the first post?
Death, Dec 1996
Bessie WEBB b 19 Feb 1902
Salisbury
Register number: B44C
District/subdistrict:7951B
Entry number:150
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yes bessie was a frankham when born,sorry about mistake before i was given wrong information thankyou for your help
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I must say I can't easily find a birth registration for her.
Both Frankham and Smith are names with links to travelling people - is this likely to be a factor in Bessie's family, so far as you know?
If so there may be additional challenges in your research - travelling people could more easily be missed by a census enumerator than settled people, and also are sometimes listed by the maternal surname rather than the paternal (or use both names interchangeably). Registration of births sometimes was not a priority, too.
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yes im told they are travelers im doing this for a freind thankyou for your help