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Title: synnott family from shannon bridge
Post by: neildebhardy2009 on Saturday 12 November 11 16:59 GMT (UK)
anybody have any information on the synnott  family from shannon bridge ireland around 1850 to 1930ish many thanks neil and deb
Title: Re: synnott family from shannon bridge
Post by: shanew147 on Saturday 12 November 11 17:11 GMT (UK)
Is this the town of Shannonbridge in Co. Offaly ?

Do you have any names and dates etc ?

Given the timeframe you have mentioned, I think a good place to start might be the 1901 and 1911 census - see : http://census.nationalarchives.ie/

and : Introduction to Irish Records (http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,442233.0.html)



Shane
Title: Re: synnott family from shannon bridge
Post by: shanew147 on Saturday 12 November 11 17:17 GMT (UK)
there are 6 people with the surname Synnott in Shannonbridge town on the 1911 census - in two households :

 Synnott -1 (http://census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/King_s_Co_/Shannon_Bridge/Shannonbridge_Town/550720/) : Ellen (a widow), and her three children

 Synnott - 2 (http://census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/King_s_Co_/Shannon_Bridge/Shannonbridge_Town/550711/) : 2 Synnott children living with their grandparents


Shane
Title: Re: synnott family from shannon bridge
Post by: neildebhardy2009 on Saturday 12 November 11 17:23 GMT (UK)
hi shane thanks for info we will have a look we have tried ancestry archives from 1850-1911 it is as if shannonbridge never existed ..no cencus records.. the info that we have is micheal francis synnott born 1908 shannonbridge and his father we think was called micheal synnott born probly about 1880 and he was pursude by the police and as a result drowned in the shannon river we will try with the info you have given many thanks neil and deb..
Title: Re: synnott family from shannon bridge
Post by: shanew147 on Saturday 12 November 11 17:26 GMT (UK)
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we have tried ancestry archives from 1850-1911 it is as if shannonbridge never existed ..no cencus records..
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I dont think that Ancesrty has any Irish census records. The two complete census details (i.e. 1901 and 1911) are only available on the National Archives of Ireland website - see link above.


Shane
Title: Re: synnott family from shannon bridge
Post by: shanew147 on Saturday 12 November 11 17:40 GMT (UK)
Here's Ellen (surname spelt Synott) with the two elder daughter's  on the 1901 return. She is living with the same Henry family (Kieran & Teresa) as two of the Synnott children on the 1911 return. She is listed as their 'step-daughter'

see : Henry / Synott / Coleman / Ward / Moore household (http://census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/King_s_Co_/Shannonbridge/Cloniffeen__Shannonbridge_/1460872/)

No sign of her husband, but she is apparently married to a Stonecutter.


Shane
Title: Re: synnott family from shannon bridge
Post by: heywood on Saturday 12 November 11 18:11 GMT (UK)
Shannonbridge is (I think from searching) in Parsonstown (Birr) registration district.

Marriage indexes has a Michael Synnott 1896 and amongst the  possible spouses are Ellen Doran and Ellen Loughnane.  None of these names fit with Coleman which is the name of the other stepchildren  :-\

heywood
Title: Re: synnott family from shannon bridge
Post by: shanew147 on Saturday 12 November 11 18:15 GMT (UK)
agreed - most of Shannonbridge is in the townland of Raghra, Parsonstown/Birr registration district.


Shane
Title: Re: synnott family from shannon bridge
Post by: shanew147 on Saturday 12 November 11 18:22 GMT (UK)
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the info that we have is micheal francis synnott born 1908 shannonbridge and his father we think was called micheal synnott
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possible birth for Michael from the BMD Index - a cert would probably help if he fits this family - e.g. if father's occupation is a Stonecutter..

  Name: Michael Synott
  Registration district:   Birr
  Event type: Birth
  Quarter and year: Jan-Mar 1908
  Volume :   3 / Page: 288

see : 
  Ordering Certs from GRO Roscommon (http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,433040.0.html)
  Details included on a Birth Cert (http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,433041.0.html)


Shane
Title: Re: synnott family from shannon bridge
Post by: shanew147 on Saturday 12 November 11 18:38 GMT (UK)
possible death for Ellen's husband - he's the only male Synnott death in the Birr/Parsonstown distrct that I see between 1901 and 1911 :

  Name: Michael Synnott
  Registration district:   Birr
  Event type: Death
  Quarter and year: Jul-Sep 1910
  age : 55  (est. year of birth: 1855)
  Volume: 3 /Page: 218

The only Michael Synnott (or variation), with occupation Stonecutter that I see anywhere is this one born in Co. Galway, but living in Co. Roscommon... : Finneran / Sinnett / Callery - 1901 (http://census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Roscommon/Kiltoom/Moyvannan/1654603/)


Shane
Title: Re: synnott family from shannon bridge
Post by: heywood on Saturday 12 November 11 19:10 GMT (UK)
Hi Shane,
When I first saw that death for Michael aged 55 yrs, I thought he may be too old. However, he would fit (approximately) with Michael , born Galway.

heywood
Title: Re: synnott family from shannon bridge
Post by: corinne on Wednesday 19 October 16 21:12 BST (UK)
From the recently released Irish Civil Registration birth records, Michael Sinnott, born 25 Jan 1908, at Creeragh, Birr, Kings, Ireland, to parents Michael and Ellen nee Coleman.  Father's occupation is stonecutter.
Title: Re: synnott family from shannon bridge
Post by: LizSyn on Tuesday 15 August 23 11:45 BST (UK)
Hello I know of the Synnott’s below.. are you family?
Title: Re: synnott family from shannon bridge
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Tuesday 15 August 23 19:55 BST (UK)
Welcome to RootsChat  :)

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...Michael Sinnott, born 25 Jan 1908, at Creeragh, Birr, Kings, Ireland, to parents Michael and Ellen nee Coleman.  Father's occupation is stonecutter.

#136
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1908/01664/1663341.pdf

Creeragh in the civil parish of Ballingarry, in Co. Tipperary.
https://www.townlands.ie/tipperary/lower-ormond/ballingarry/creeragh/


Creevagh townland, in the civil parish of Clonmacnoise, Co Offaly
https://www.townlands.ie/offaly/garrycastle/clonmacnoise/clonmacnoise/creevagh/

Michael Sinnott (father) a labourer.


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Title: Re: synnott family from shannon bridge
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Saturday 23 September 23 08:19 BST (UK)

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Synnott -1 : Ellen (a widow), and her three children
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai002642771/

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...Michael Sinnott, born 25 Jan 1908, at Creeragh, Birr, Kings, Ireland, to parents Michael and Ellen nee Coleman.  Father's occupation is stonecutter.

Death of Michael Synnott snr - 5 September 1910 at Shannonbridge.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1910/05419/4514464.pdf


Title: Re: synnott family from shannon bridge
Post by: LizSyn on Saturday 23 September 23 08:33 BST (UK)
Thank you for the information.  I’m looking for more info Michael who died in 1905.  I’m looking for his parents names
Title: Re: synnott family from shannon bridge
Post by: corinne on Thursday 12 October 23 09:30 BST (UK)
Thank you for the information.  I’m looking for more info Michael who died in 1905.  I’m looking for his parents names

There is a Michael Sinnott who died on 6 dec 1904 at Ardcavan, Co Wexford at the age of 84, but he was a bachelor.  Is this who you mean?  He won't be related at all though to the Michael Synnott of Shannonbridge who this message thread was originally about.   If this isn't the right person, then please feel free to contact me through the Sennett (Synnott, Sinnott, etc) surname study (search online for Guild of One Name Studies, and then type in Sinnott or Synnott into the search box to get my contact link).  I hold the surname study database of more than 100,000 people.
Title: Re: synnott family from shannon bridge
Post by: LizSyn on Thursday 12 October 23 11:42 BST (UK)
Hello I’m looking for birth details on Michael Synnott who died in 1910.  He was married to Ellen Coleman.
Title: Re: synnott family from shannon bridge
Post by: heywood on Thursday 12 October 23 11:47 BST (UK)
For information - the death
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1910/05419/4514464.pdf

Ellen in 1901
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/King_s_Co_/Shannonbridge/Cloniffeen__Shannonbridge_/1460872/
Title: Re: synnott family from shannon bridge
Post by: heywood on Thursday 12 October 23 12:03 BST (UK)
Shannonbridge is (I think from searching) in Parsonstown (Birr) registration district.

Marriage indexes has a Michael Synnott 1896 and amongst the  possible spouses are Ellen Doran and Ellen Loughnane.  None of these names fit with Coleman which is the name of the other stepchildren  :-\

heywood

Here is the Synnott/Loughnane marriage in 1896
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1896/10492/5821267.pdf

He is a Stone Cutter with father, Nicholas.
Title: Re: synnott family from shannon bridge
Post by: heywood on Thursday 12 October 23 12:12 BST (UK)
A few years ago, Shane posted this census - Michael Sinnet b Galway
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1896/10492/5821267.pdf
Title: Re: synnott family from shannon bridge
Post by: LizSyn on Thursday 12 October 23 12:58 BST (UK)
Hello and thank you

I have one of their children’s birth certificates and it states Ellen Synnott formerly Coleman… 😥 here my frustration lies as I can’t find anything any further back and hope you can help 😊
Title: Re: synnott family from shannon bridge
Post by: heywood on Thursday 12 October 23 13:10 BST (UK)
Here is the death of Ellen Synnott (Loughnane) in 1897
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1897/05873/4665203.pdf

The entry above is her baby son.
Title: Re: synnott family from shannon bridge
Post by: heywood on Thursday 12 October 23 13:24 BST (UK)
Teresa Hall Coleman shows 18 yrs marriage with Kieran Henry in 1911.
I can’t see a marriage for them nor can I see one for Michael Synnott and Ellen Coleman.
Title: Re: synnott family from shannon bridge
Post by: heywood on Thursday 12 October 23 13:28 BST (UK)
A few years ago, Shane posted this census - Michael Sinnet b Galway
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1896/10492/5821267.pdf

Sorry, I should have posted the census here
http://census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Roscommon/Kiltoom/Moyvannan/1654603/
Title: Re: synnott family from shannon bridge
Post by: LizSyn on Friday 13 October 23 15:43 BST (UK)
I have that Ellen Synott died in 1929

Group Registration ID   1366711
SR District/Reg Area   Birr
Deceased Age at Death   50

she died as a widow which would fit with Michael Synnott who I am looking for as he died in 1910...I just need to find his birth details
Title: Re: synnott family from shannon bridge
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Friday 13 October 23 16:44 BST (UK)
I have that Ellen Synott died in 1929

Group Registration ID   1366711
SR District/Reg Area   Birr
Deceased Age at Death   50

she died as a widow...

URL Link-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1929/04932/4339749.pdf

Date of death: 23 June 1929 at Shannon Bridge.
Her son Michael Synott was the informant.


Title: Re: synnott family from shannon bridge
Post by: heywood on Friday 13 October 23 17:55 BST (UK)
It is difficult as the 1901 census shows him as b Galway. If that is him of course.

The marriage to Ellen Loughnane shows his father as Nicholas, a stonecutter.

The surname Sinnott with variations is very common in Wexford. The spelling causes lots of problems.
There is this birth of around the same time, census shows abt 1860 birth and death shows abt 1855.

1853 February 27th Michael to Nicholas and Joanna Roe - Wexford
https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000634139#page/24/mode/1up

That is Wexford - not Galway and perhaps not the right year so who knows but it is the only one I can see.
Title: Re: synnott family from shannon bridge - Update (from the Surname study files)
Post by: corinne on Sunday 03 December 23 10:21 GMT (UK)
This is an update of information from the Sennett (Synnott, Sinnett, Sinnott) surname study files of what is known about the family of Michael Synnott, a stonecutter, and his two wives, Ellen Loughnan and Ellen Coleman.  Note that while his father is known to be Nicholas, a stone cutter (as noted on his marriage to Ellen Loughnan), no record of his birth has yet been able to be confirmed.

Michael Synnott, stonecutter first married Ellen LOUGHNAN on 7 june 1896, and they had one child, a male, unnamed, born and died on 4 feb 1897 at Clonafin (Parsonstown reg district).  Mother Ellen died shortly after on 11 mar 1897 (aged 24, stonecutters wife) with the cause of death noted as "delicacy from birth".  The informant for both deaths was Mary Loughnane (grandmother of the child, mother of Ellen) who was present at death.

In 1901 Michael is found on the census at house 4, Moyvannan (Kiltoom, Roscommon), aged 40, b Co Galway, a stonecutter, married.  He is not with his family.  Ellen SYNOTT is still in Cloniffeen (Shannonbridge, Kings Co) with her step-father Kieran HENRY, his wife Teresa HENRY, Ellen's children Mary and Eliza SYNOTT (aged 2 and 1) and Kieran HENRY's other stepchildren Stephen COLEMAN (17), and Eliza COLEMAN (15).
From this 1901 census record assumptions made are:   Ellen SYNOTT, wife of Michael was born COLEMAN, her mother is Teresa HENRY, formerly COLEMAN, and she is staying with her stepfather and mother because she has young children and her husband Michael has gone to Moyvannan for work.

There is a marriage of Teresa HALL to Thomas COLEMAN 19 feb 1868 at Ballinasloe, Creagh Co Galway.  Thomas COLEMAN dies 28 Dec 1886 at the Workhouse, with his usual place of residence given as Shannon Bridge.  He has had 9 children, including the three named in Census 1901 with the HENRY family (Ellen, Stephen and Eliza).  In the 1911 census, Kieran HENRY is stated to have been married 18 years with no children.  Teresa (who has had 8 children born, all of whom are still living) is named as his wife, though no marriage record has been found yet (and they may not have actually married).    Teresa's children are all found in civil birth records with surname COLEMAN, father Thomas COLEMAN, a shoemaker, and mother Teresa HALL.  Ellen COLEMAN was born 28 oct 1879 at Shannonbridge.

There is no record found yet of the second marriage of Michael SYNNOTT to Ellen COLEMAN (nee HALL), but there are civil registration records of 5 children born to Michael SYNNOTT (a stone cutter) and Ellen COLEMAN.  A sixth (John) is also named as a child of Ellen on Census1911 but no civil registration record of his birth has been found.

The death of Michael SYNNOTT was registered by Pat NULTY, the RIC officer who found the body.  He had been "accidentally drowned" on 5th September at Shannon Bridge, aged 55, a stonecutter, married.  The death certificate does not indicate how he came to be in the water.

Michael's widow Ellen SYNNOTT (aged 29, a widow) is at house 28, Shannonbridge Town at Census 1911, with children Lizzie (11), John (4) and Michael (3) and a lodger.  Ellen is stated as having been married 12 years, with 6 children born and 3 still living.  Note that she probably had 5 children still living at this point, though may have interpreted the census question as the number of children still living with her (which was 3).

Ellen SYNOTT died 23 jun 1929 at Shannon Bridge (cause of death, exhaustion, from Carcinoma of the uterus).  She was a widow, servant, aged 50, and her son Michael SYNOTT of the same  address was the informant.   

The birth marriage and death records are all found on the free irishgenealogy civil records website.   If anyone has further information about the descendants of Michael Synnott, please feel free to either message me here, or contact me through the surname study (registered with the Guild of One Name Studies) - use the surname search on the home page one-name.org to get to the contact page for the study.  Any male descendants of this line will be eligible to join the YDNA project, so please also contact me about this.