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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Leitrim => Topic started by: mmcpadden1947 on Saturday 19 November 11 01:51 GMT (UK)
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Hoping someone may be able to help in providing any info.on Stephen Flynn & his parents,Mary McPadden,born 1869,Derrintawy,Dowra,Co.Leiitrim.
Parents Hugh McPadden + Ellen Cassidy,Parish of Inishmagrath.
I found Stephen on both 1901 + 1911 census living with his maternal grandparents at the family home in Derrintawy.
They are my ggrandparents.
Depending on which census viewed he was born in 1890 or 1892 in America.
However 1890 seems most likely as I have seen a record which I believe to be his returning to U.S.A. in 1912,age 22, an American citizen.
I have no info.on his fathers first name. nor have been able to find a Marriage Cert.or a Death Cert.for Mary.
I had never heard of the existence of this branch of my family believing my grandfather had only 2 brothers.
I cannot help wondering if there is some mystery attached.
For example did they marry else where in Ireland as there is no record of their doing so in Marys Parish.
Would think they were married as the son had a different surname to mother.
On enquiring with my aunts ,now deceased they told me they thought Mary(their aunt) had died as a child in view of how their mother spoke of her, only when asked.
Further questions were discouraged so they never knew of Stephen Flynn who had returned to U.S.A. before they were born.
I found a Stephen Flynn born 26th Dec.1890 in Sarratoga with Corinth connections but had that checked out & the mothers name does not match.
Another on Mormon Records,Social Security Death Index,for 1966.
Not enough info. on that .
Many thanks : Maura
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Here's your Stephen McFlynn in 1901 and 1911 Irish census records- 1901 gives Stephen's birthplace as Co.Leitrim:
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Leitrim/Mahanagh/Derrintawy_Glebe/1473109
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Leitrim/Mahanagh/Derrintawy_Glebe/655344
The 1911 census gives Ellen as having had 6 children but only 3 living so Mary might, or might not, have died before 1911.
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Is this the Stephen Flynn you found?
Passport application for Stephen Flynn (1923) gives the following details- born 26 Dec.1890 Co. Leitrim, father Peter Flynn born and residing in Co. Leitrim, to US 1912 from Londonderry, naturized 1919 in San Francisco.
Passenger manifest 30 Sept.1912 "California" arriving in New York gives Stephen Flynn going to cousin Michael Flynn, father Peter Flynn of Knockatean Drumkernon(?). Entry has been crossed out so perhaps he actually sailed another date.
This is likely Stephen Flynn's father Peter and family in 1911 census-
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Leitrim/St__Patrick_s/Knockateenan/655651
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Thank you very much,Aghadowey.
It is confusing 2 different places,America & Co.Leitrim are given for Stephen Flynns birth.
I always took it as America only.
The Stephen I found with d.o.b. as 26 Dec.1890 had mothers name as Byrne (?).
Mary McPadden would have died prior to 1911 as the 3 remaining children were my grandfather & his 2 brothers.
Two died in infancy as they are not on 1901 census & big mystery is where & when Mary died.
Peter Flynn of Knockateenan could well be Stephens father.
However he is not with the family in 1911 census.
The Peter mentioned on the census would be his father.
Havent checked their 1901 entry,must do so.
In an ideal world it would solve everything if I could find a Birth Cert. for Stephen & a Death Cert. for his parents.
Have you any idea of a central address in U.S.A. which I could contact.
To cover all bases I will now check in Co.Leitrim too.
I will be very happy to get any further suggestions.
Thanks : Maura
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Vital records in America are kept by the individual states so you#d need a location. Also, the date of birth registration varies greatly according to the state so even if you find a state there may not be a certificate available.
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I have applied to Registrar B.D.M ,Co. Leitrim to day for a Birth Cert. for Stephen Flynn.
Will see what transpires.
From the details you supplied it certainly is a likelihood
Maura
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I have recently had a check done for a Birth Cert.for Stephen Flynn in Leitrim none could be found.
However almost simultaneously got further info.through a friend in U.S.A which points to his birth there.
World War One Draft Reg.Cards.
Stephen Flynn,d.o.b 26 Dec.1890
Born : U.S.A.Manhattan,New York.
Living with wife at 154E 62nd St.,New York.
Card signed 5th June 1917
New York Passenger Lists
Stephen Flynn d.o.b. as above.
Departing 6th Oct. 1912 on Cameronia from Londonderry.
Address in New York 469 9th Ave.,62nd St.
Social Security Death Reg.states May 1966.
D.o.b. is correct.
Last residence 12822 Corinth,Saratoga.
James,his son died 30th March 2007.
Born 10th April 1922.
All this info.from his Obituary,which also lists his relatives.
Shortly afterwards I phoned a relative giving Stephens details
& was told his mother was Mary Byrne,which of course was his wife.
This totally threw my search into disarray.
Wires may have been crossed as there could have been a son,Stephen.
From previous info. we now know his father was Peter Flynn.
So one of the questions remaining is where his parents married,seems to have been U.S,can find no record in Ireland.
Also date of death of his mother Mary McPadden Flynn.
Many thanks for all the help.
Perhaps someone can make a connection with their family tree
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Having recently had more time to look into Peter Flynn in 1911
Census.
He is there age 69 yrs,wife Sarah age 57,sons Patrick & Michael
aged 31 & 21.
Its stated they were 34 yrs.married,6 children were born alive & 4 were still living.
My query now is was this
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Seems to be a bit missing from your latest post?
Having recently had more time to look into Peter Flynn in 1911
Census.
He is there age 69 yrs,wife Sarah age 57,sons Patrick & Michael
aged 31 & 21.
Its stated they were 34 yrs.married,6 children were born alive & 4 were still living.
My query now is was this
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Apologies about this.
Dont know how it happened as it was completed
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"My query now is was this..." ???
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To finish previous incomplete message.
My query now is was this Peter the father of Stephen Flynn or
was it a son of his,another Peter from a previous marriage.Peter in the census would have been 48 yrs.old in 1890 when Stephen Flynn was born while mother Mary was 21yrs.old.A huge age gap.
I am still looking for info.on Mary McPadden Flynns date of death.
Many thanks
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Hi Maura,
This is Kevin McGrath formally of Tullinamoile, Dowra now residing in New York.
I have been looking for your email address or a phone number so that i can contact you regarding the McGrath family tree connections. You spoke to my son Gerard a few years back but I never got to talk to you directly. I would be grateful if you could get in touch, my email address is Removed , I look forward to hearing from you soon.
Kevin.
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Maura,
I am not sure how old your post is but I am familiar with your family members.
I have spent 12 months tracking Mary (McPadden) Flynn & believe I have connected the dots.
Their were actually 2 marriages between the Flynn's & McPaddens. Namely, Hugh Flynn of Alteen & Mary McPadden of Derrintawy, also Mary Flynn of Alteen & Hugh McPadden . A bit confusing but definite links.
If your interested, drop me a line & I'll share what I have.
Can you share how your related.
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Thanks
Steve Flynn
Spring, Texas
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Hi Steve
Welcome to Rootschat ;D
Maura hasn't been online here since 2011 and according to her profile, her email address doesn't work anymore.
That comment would have been put there as a result of a previous email bouncing back.
Unless she returns to the forum of her own volition, there's not much we can do at this time to get you in contact with each other.
Dawn
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Hi Steve,
Would certainly be very interested to hear from you.Can compare notes.
This has remained a mystery to me for sometime.
Anyone who might have known was dead by then.
My account was hacked some years ago with considerable difficult consequences so scared me off for a while.
Regards : Maura
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Hi Steve,
I am finally back had some updating to do.
This is my relationship to Mary McPadden,she was born in 1869 to Hugh McPadden & Ellen Cassidy.
They are my great grandparents ,their son Stephen +Mary McGovern are my grandparents,while my parents were Hugh McPadden + Margaret Morgan.So my father & Mary were 1st cousins.
Derrintawy (Derrintovey)is in Co.Leitrim,all the above lived in Ireland,so there are quite a few cousins down the generations.However in Marys family there were only 2 siblings who had children,Stephen ,my grandfather + Michael who as the eldest son inherited the homestead in Derrintovey.Two of the family died young & whatever happened Mary.
Look forward to sharing info.with you.
Maura
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Steve--------------just to let you know I have posted some info on Rootschat.
Since its been so long since I posted you mightn't be checking.
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Maura,
Came across these postings today. I believe they go back to 2018.
I somehow lost the original links.
I am not a subscriber to roots and this might have contributed to the issue.
I can shed a great deal on the Flynn/McPadden relationship.
There were several marriages between the Flynn's & McPadden's
If you would like to continue where we left off,
Thanks
Steve Flynn
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Derrintawy (Derrintovey) is in Co.Leitrim.....
https://www.townlands.ie/leitrim/drumahaire/inishmagrath/mahanagh/derrintawy-glebe/
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There were several marriages between the Flynn's & McPadden's
Here were two-
Thomas FLYNN and Winifride McPadden 10 February 1879
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1879/11056/8044892.pdf
Hugh MCPADDEN and Mary Flynn 6 March 1882
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1882/10956/8004881.pdf