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Old Photographs, Recognition, Handwriting Deciphering => Free Photo Restoration & Date Old Photographs => Topic started by: gerryg1 on Tuesday 22 November 11 08:54 GMT (UK)
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This photo has been in my mothers family (Proudfoot) for years it was always thought to be of some of the family on an outing, however I recently discovered that a grandfather of an aunt was listed in a Belfast Telephone directory as a Cab Proprietor. He was William Tedford from 221 Holywood Rd. Belfast. He was about from 1848 to 1912. I'm afraid I don't have the actual photo here with me just my scan so no edges/corners, there was no card and I'm sure there was nothing on the back. The Proudfoots lived around the Dee/Mersey St, Park Ave, Sydnenham Ave area of Belfast. I'll post it to two areas Photo Dating and one of the old Belfast posts, so any help on the photos date or perhaps someone may even have some other facts. Any help appreciated, thanks, Gerry.
Ps. Do you think the driver and William are the same person?
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I don't think the driver is William - the face shape seems wrong to me.
The vehicle in the photograph is a jaunting car - very popular in Ireland in the nineteenth century.
Cati
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Sorry cati, just noticed I never thanked you for your input, I assure it was appreciated, Gerry. :-[
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Don't worry! Glad to be of any assistance.
Cati
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Gerry I would change the tile of your post by using the modify button and add a request for a date to bring it to the attention of the daters on here...What a lovely postcard....not sure they are the same person though :-\
Carol
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Thanks Carol I'll take your advice. Gerry.
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Very interesting photo - I wonder why the eyes of the three people standing appear to have been covered! Or are my eyes deceiving me? When enlarged they seem to have white strips across their faces!
Wiggy
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I'm not sure what you mean by covered, Wiggy ?
Sorry, you've added to your reply since I read it. I think they look like marks or scratches on the picture.
Pels.
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You don't think that's just the subjects moving their heads? the photo really is a mess, probably saved from the rubbish by my mum. The chap on the left is apparently my great grandfather and I know of no animosity in the family that might cause him to be covered up. Any Belfast people think this might be Kellys Bar which used to be in that area?
Regards, Gerry.
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A date, Gerry....well, since the ladies are almost completely covered up it's hard to say. The hats are the only clue really. I would venture a guess at around 1900 or so. The lady on the left is the more likely to be fashionable, and her hat style seems to be somewhere in between the tall narrow creations of the late 1880s and the very wide style of around 1910. So, late 90s, 1900ish?
I found a photo of what I think is the Kelly's Bar you mentioned, and it seems to be red brick all the way down to the ground.
http://www.belfastforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=25389.165
Cheers,
China
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Thanks again China, to be honest I really don't know a lot about the area it was just that I remember my mum saying something about a Kellys Bar where she used to get sent to find he Da. All the other patrons used to give her pennies. After I included that comment I realized the spelling would be a little unusual, Kelley, but found there were 279 in the 01 census, we're Irish, say no more, lol. ::) There was a Kelly, wine and spirit merchant in Scotch St in the area in 1911 but the street seems to be gone as I know the pub has, from a different source.
T'was just a thought, thanks anyway for the fashion advice, lol. ;D
Regards, Gerry.
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we're Irish, say no more, lol.
I know what you mean...my great-grannie was from Belfast, around the Shankill Rd I believe, and she's STILL giving me fits :P :P ;D
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Gerry
You have the names so will know - but a thought, your aunt's grandfather could be your gr grandfather - the small man standing does look a little like your inset photo.
Kath
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Thanks Kath but no not possible, unless ::) well you never know.
Regards, Gerry.