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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland Resources => Topic started by: Fresh Fields on Wednesday 23 November 11 09:26 GMT (UK)
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Hello there.
It appears that manners are a dying art. Yet another web site (http://www.scottishmining.co.uk). is considering withdrawing it’s public contact access, with offers of assistance, because the privilege being voluntarily offered, has been abused by the enquiring public, not familiar with archival practices, and protocols.
Original copy, ceases to be ORIGINAL COPY, if archivists are expected to “correct” what appears to be errors.
If your research finds what can conclusively be proven to be in error, don’t shoot the messenger, but publish your findings with suitable attachments / notations in support of your claim. Above all else, the volunteer is not showing disrespect, by not altering their original copy, or original transcripts.
Volunteers are a valuable research resource, with in depth knowledge about their archive holdings, and should not be subject to abuse, because of the detail contained in any resource they locate for the inquirer.
- Alan.
Edit: Spelling correction.
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Hi Fresh Fields
How really sad that a small minority of people can have such a negative effect for many :-\
I have read through elsewhere comments from one of the people from www.scottishmining.co.uk and it certainly sounds like things have got out of hand for them. Also, reading on, it would appear that SM are not only considering removing the public access and contact but in fact they already have, see www.scottishmining.co.uk/389.html
They have also taken the opportunity to remind everyone of their current copyright requirements on material from their site www.scottishmining.co.uk/390.html
Monica
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Also, reading on, it would appear that SM are not only considering removing the public access and contact but in fact they already have, see www.scottishmining.co.uk/389.html
Can I just add a note of clarification in case anyone sees the phrase "removing the public access" and assumes that means the actual website is either gone, or no longer open access. The site is still freely available to the public, and hopefully will remain so for a long time (don't like to claim forever :) but here's hoping!)
The only change is we have removed all contact forms so the only way to comment on the site is via the publically accessible guestbook.
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Thanks for the clarification, JSHC :)
Monica
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HI
One of my Grans sayings was manners maketh the man ( or woman).
More people need to remember that.
GG
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Hello Grangreet.
To digress I assume, you too, would appreciate this clipping I came across when researching Hezekiah MANN, to do with another RootsChat thread.
- Alan.
http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/cgi-bin/paperspast?a=d&cl=search&d=ST18890214.2.27&srpos=17&e=-------10--11----0hezekiah+mann--
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Great websites about coalmining in Scotland
http://www.scottishmining.co.uk/
http://www.scan.org.uk/education/coal/
http://www.educationscotland.gov.uk/scotlandshistory/makingindustrialurban/coal/index.asp
http://www.cmhrc.co.uk/site/maps/scotland/
http://www.nrscotland.gov.uk/research/guides/coal-mining-records
http://scotland.forestry.gov.uk/activities/heritage/industrial-heritage-sites/coal-mining
http://ssa.nls.uk/film/3942
http://www.sorbie.net/lanarkshire_mining_industry.htm
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Relating purely to Fife Mining http://www.fifepits.co.uk/
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Some more websites of use for research into mining in Scotland
• The Scottish Mining Museum - www.scottishminingmuseum.com
• Scotland's Shale Oil Industry - www.scottishshale.co.uk/index.html
• Scottish Mines http://www.miningartifacts.org/Scottishmines.html
• Ironstone mining in Ayrshire http://www.gov.scot/Resource/Doc/224888/0060851.pdf
• The natural heritage interest of bings (waste tips) in Scotland http://www.snh.org.uk/publications/on-line/advisorynotes/50/50.htm
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Hello,
Looked through the links but can't find what looking for.
Relative James Spiers who died 28/5/1877 in Udston Colliery disaster.
Looking for any advice on where to find information regarding this event.
Regards
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Hello again.
Found it
Cheers
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Phew, I'm pleased the Scottish Mining website hasn't closed down as it's been a valuable resource for me and I often re-visit to check if anything new has been added. I'm particularly keen to discover how/when Allan M'kenzie of Clyde Ironworks died sometime between 1841-1851.
My interest started with seeing my gg g/father Donald M'kenzie blacksmith ancestor, from Urray, in the 1841 census worked at the Clyde Ironworks which initially I hadn't realised was allied to the coal mining business until my surfing landed me on the Scottish mining website.
It was his son Kenneth M'kenzie, mining engineer, who bought a stake in the Bank mine at New Cumnock which I believe was named "Seaforth" because that is the family's branch of the M'kenzie clan. When I saw the initial asking price, then even the lowered asking price of the business I wondered how on earth a son of a humble tradesman could even think of buying into such a project. I was a "self starter" in business with no assets so I know it can be done, but I didn't have to lay out such a large sum of money. I believe Ken raised funds from various contacts. For instance his sister Jane was married to John Crum, stationer, Glasgow. in 1841 John was an apprentice blacksmith living with his widowed mother in Little Dovehill but in 1847 he'd managed to find money to set up in business and owned a wholesale stationery company. (He re-printed Alan Ramsay's "The Tea-Table Miscellany in 1871 which is still circulated today). John Crum had various contacts such as Robert Dalglish MP because John's cousin Lilias Crum married Robert's brother Andrew Stephenson Dalglish, a well known benefactor who had fingers in many pies.
Cheers, Rena
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Great resource and is full of relevant information given the vast majority of my family worked in local mines in Ayrshire.