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Title: 1851/1861 Look up please.
Post by: Long Tom on Sunday 04 December 11 02:40 GMT (UK)
Could i have a look up please in the 1851/61 Census for a Hugh Twist born about 1839, and likely to be living at Sutton in the Prescot Registration district.
With thanks,
   Long Tom.
Title: Re: 1851/1861 Look up please.
Post by: keyboard86 on Sunday 04 December 11 03:28 GMT (UK)
Hi Long Tom, 1851 Census:-

Henry Twist 47 occ Coal Miner
Martha 42
Margaret 18 occ Lab at Colliery
HUGH 12 occ Coal Miner
Ann 9
Sarah 6 months
Daniel Hughes 16 Visitor occ Coal Miner b Liverpool
All born Parr, bar Daniel
Residing at Parr Flats, Prescot, Lancs.
Census Ref HO107/2195/451/43

1861 Census

Hugh Twist 22 occ Copper Smelter b Parr
Margaret 23 Wife b Wales
Martha 2 b Sutton
Sarah 1 month b Sutton
Residing at Watery Lane, Sutton, Prescot, Lancs
Census Ref RG09/2754/8/17

Marriage Hugh Twist to Margaret Lewis Sept 1858 Prescot 8b 789

1841 Census

Henry SWIFT ( Twist on original) 35 occ Coal Miner
Martha 30
Samuel 15 occ Coal Miner
Margaret 8
Betsey 5
Hugh 2
Residing at Parr Flatt Lane, Prescot
Census Ref HO107/516/ 9/32/15
Keyboard86
Title: Re: 1851/1861 Look up please.
Post by: Radcliff on Sunday 04 December 11 06:26 GMT (UK)
All Saints Rainford,
11th of July 1858
Hugh Twist ,full age batchelor labourer of Rainford
Margaret Lewis ,full age spinster of Rainford,
grooms father, Henry Twist collier
Brides father,William Lewis ,labourer,
witness to marriage,Robert Lawton(X) and Rachel Dagnal (X)





Martha Twist,baptism,
4th of Jan 1859,
abode Sutton
St Nicholas Sutton,

Sarah Jane
2ND of June 1861,
born 10th of March,
abode Sutton
St Michael Burtonwood

William
5th of April 1863
St Michael Burtonwood,
abode Parr,
born 22nd of Jan,

children of Hugh Twist a labourer and Mary
Title: Re: 1851/1861 Look up please.
Post by: garstonite on Sunday 04 December 11 08:15 GMT (UK)
Re Henry Twist and Martha in the 1851 census in Prescot

Marriage 27th february 1825 St Mary the Virgin, Prescot,Lancs
Henry Twist (X) bachelor Collier of this parish
Martha Madison (X) spinster of this parish
witness James Atherton (X) Ann Atherton (X)
married by banns bt Thomas Boultbee  Curate

allan
Title: Re: 1851/1861 Look up please.
Post by: Radcliff on Sunday 04 December 11 08:30 GMT (UK)
On the 1841 census you will see a estimated 7 year gap between Samuel and Elizabeth,


John Twist,
baptised St Mary St Helens
19th of November 1827
abode Parr,

Ann baptised 16th of August 1829,
St Mary,St Helens,
abode Parr

Ann (Twiss)daughter of Henry and Martha
burial 1st of January 1836
aged 6 years,
scarlett fever,
abode Parr Flat
st Thomas Ashton in Makerfield
Title: Re: 1851/1861 Look up please.
Post by: garstonite on Sunday 04 December 11 08:33 GMT (UK)
other children of Henry and Martha which are not on the 1851 census.

Samuel Twiss baptised 25th May 1825 St Mary , St Helens ,Lancs
son of Henry Twist and Martha
abode Parr
occ  Collier
baptised by T Pigot

John Twist 19th November 1827 same church /parents/abode/occupation

Ann Twist 16th aug 1829 ...same details

then Margaret in Burtonwood..... can`t find the death of the 1st Ann b 1829
allan
Title: Re: 1851/1861 Look up please.
Post by: Radcliff on Sunday 04 December 11 08:41 GMT (UK)
Twiss Allan
Title: Re: 1851/1861 Look up please.
Post by: garstonite on Sunday 04 December 11 08:44 GMT (UK)
Sorry Radcliff...not awake yet...lol...it`s the smell of the breakfast putting me off ...allan :D
Title: Re: 1851/1861 Look up please.
Post by: Radcliff on Sunday 04 December 11 08:46 GMT (UK)
 ;D
Title: Re: 1851/1861 Look up please.
Post by: Long Tom on Sunday 04 December 11 11:11 GMT (UK)
Many,many thanks to all three of you for the prompt and extra detailed answers, much appreciated.
If i can conclude the requests for this family, could i please have a look-up in 1841/1851 for a William Twist born about 1835 in St. Helens [ 1881 census].
With regards,
  Long Tom.
Title: Re: 1851/1861 Look up please.
Post by: Gibel on Sunday 04 December 11 13:40 GMT (UK)
Is this the same William Twist we were looking for before? Or another possible candidate?

If you are in the UK you may not be aware that many libraries have access to the Ancestry library Collection some this is available free and some there may be a small charge.

www.lan-opc.org.uk which is a free website may also have inormation that is useful to you. The site gives a possible marriage

Marriage: 6 Feb 1859 St Mary the Virgin, Prescot, Lancashire, England
William Twist - Joiner bachelor of Parr
Jane Smith - spinster of Parr
    Groom's Father: Henry Twist, Collier
    Witness: Jonathan Johnson; Mary Worsley
    Married by Banns by: Francis L Horsham

It seems likely this William was born in Parr. The index on ancestry confirms that in 1861 and 1871 William states born Parr.

Gibel

Title: Re: 1851/1861 Look up please.
Post by: Long Tom on Sunday 04 December 11 20:40 GMT (UK)
Hi Gibel,
No it is a different William and is a confirmed line, but both are in the 1881 Census, and are Joiners.
I am in Australia and do not have any Library service on these subjects, but do use the Lancs OPC site as you kindly suggested, but thank you for the details provided.
The Census post was to determine the actual residence location, and William's siblings.
Many thanks,
   Long Tom.
Title: Re: 1851/1861 Look up please.
Post by: keyboard86 on Sunday 04 December 11 21:15 GMT (UK)
Hi Long Tom, as long as the William you require is the one married to Jane then:-

1841 Census

Henry Twist 45 occ Coal Miner
Sarah 45
Thomas 15
William 7
Thomas Melken b Ireland
All others born Lancashire
Residing at Peasley Cross Lane, Prescot, Lancs.
Census Ref HO107/517/ 4/26/ 12

1851 Census

Henry TURST 52 occ Coal Miner b Haydock
Sarah 53 b Parr
William 17 occ Joiner Apprentice b Parr
Margaret A Tarbuck 82 Widow/Mother in Law b Prescot
Residing at Peasley Cross Lane, Prescot.
Census Ref HO107/2195/210/5

1861 Census

William Twist 27 occ Joiner b Parr
Jane 23 b Parr
Henry 1 b Parr
Residing at Ascroft Street, Parr, St Helens, Lancs.
Census Ref RG09/2751/145/70
Keyboard86
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Post by: Long Tom on Monday 05 December 11 00:13 GMT (UK)

Sincere thanks keyboard86 for that correct detail.
Regards,
  Long Tom.
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Post by: 0113vanny on Wednesday 23 July 14 10:37 BST (UK)
hello I am trying to find this same family in the 1851 census and it is driving me mad,   I  am searching through every census in St Helens.  thought I would contact you!    I have looked under Twist and Turst.  help.
Title: Re: 1851/1861 Look up please.
Post by: keyboard86 on Wednesday 23 July 14 12:04 BST (UK)
Hi if you are using Ancestry on that census ref 1851 they are TAVIST.

Keyboard86
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Post by: 0113vanny on Wednesday 23 July 14 16:50 BST (UK)
thank you soo much, that has saved me another hour at least!   brilliant.   they are our ancestors.