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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Wicklow => Topic started by: cati on Monday 26 December 11 11:07 GMT (UK)
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If anyone had cuase to visit Kilmacanogue Cemetery, could you photograph a headstone/grave for me?
I believe the grave number to be 94: the inscription reads
In Loving Memory | of | my dear husband | LEO P. WICKHAM | died
9th Nov. 1960 | aged 60 years | also his beloved wife | RUTH
ISOBEL | died 27th Feb. 1985 | R.I.P. | "Thy Will be Done" |
Erected by his loving wife and sons.
Many thanks
Cati
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there's a photo available on the IGP website - see :
Wickham - No. 94 (http://www.igp-web.com/igparchives/ire/wicklow/photos/tombstones/wicklow-kilmacanogue/target94.html)
Shane
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Oh, many thnks shanew!
I didn't know about this site - I'll bookmark it now!
Cati
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they have headstone transcriptions and photos - you have to scan through the photos to find the one that matches the number.
Kilmacanogue "New" Cemetary
Transcription - part 1 (http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ire/wicklow/photos/tombstones/1headstones/kilmacanogue01.txt)
Photos - part 1 (http://www.igp-web.com/igparchives/ire/wicklow/photos/tombstones/wicklow-kilmacanogue/index.html)
here's the Wicklow headstones homepage (http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ire/wicklow/photos/tombstones/markers.htm), and the IGP homepage (http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/).
I think the numbers are references used by the IGP to keep track, rather than official grave numbers.
Shane
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You are quite right Shane.
I am just writing to confirm that we number photos and inscriptions to match, so that folk can easily find a photo if they have found an inscription of interest, and vice versa. They are not grave numbers.
I am pleased to see that the work we did at Kilmacanogue has helped someone.
Joyce Tunstead
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thanks for all the hard work with these - I have some Kilmacanogue connections, and you've documented a few of mine there also.
One of my gt-uncles was a long serving chairman of the GAA club, and it's now named after him..
Shane
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Good to hear that too! It was a nice cemetery to do - all in good order. I would love to get back into the old Kilmacanogue Cemetery but it is kept locked. We had completed a day in the "new" cemetery and found the gate open to the Old one, so managed to grab a few there too.
Perhaps in 2012 I shall get around to asking for the key for a day! Pray for some good weather this coming Spring and Summer !
We could do with some more help, so anyone reading this and interested please get in touch
Joy
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I've been in the old cemetery a few times, two out of three Sunday mornings when I went it was unlocked.
Let me know if you get to organize something, and if I'm available I'll chip in..
Shane
p.m. sent
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That would be great. Morning time is best as most headstones face east. If you wish to leave me some contact details by contacting me direct, please do so. My email address is on IGP pages.
I doubt if weather will be o.k. before about April.
Joy
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they have headstone transcriptions and photos - you have to scan through the photos to find the one that matches the number.
Kilmacanogue "New" Cemetary
Transcription - part 1 (http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ire/wicklow/photos/tombstones/1headstones/kilmacanogue01.txt)
Photos - part 1 (http://www.igp-web.com/igparchives/ire/wicklow/photos/tombstones/wicklow-kilmacanogue/index.html)
here's the Wicklow headstones homepage (http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ire/wicklow/photos/tombstones/markers.htm), and the IGP homepage (http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/).
I think the numbers are references used by the IGP to keep track, rather than official grave numbers.
Shane
Once again, thanks very much Shane, Great Uncle Leo was a distant relation by marriage, but it's nice to have this information on my tree.
Cati
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Hi all, I have a few generations burried in Kilmac and I'm looking for someone in the old graveyard but so far have had no luck finding him, a lot of the gravestones are quite worn but I would be willing to help if I'm available the day you're going, if you haven't gone already??
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what names are looking for ?
I have some notes on the old graveyard I could check if you wish..
S.
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That would be great, thank you!! Looking for George and Sarah Doyle (nee Carroll) Sarah was married to William Neale/neill before George so she may be burried with him!? Also Sarah's parents Eugene and Joanne/Jane Carroll. Thank you!!
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I have Doyles in the area, so I've some notes to hand on the headstones with that surname in Old Kilmacanogue ... no George though, and the husbands of the two Sarahs listed are named Simon and Denis.
I'll check if I've anything on the other surnames you mentioned...
Where did your Doyles live ?
Shane
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They are not my Doyles, they lived in Kilmurry and my Doyles are from Carrigoona commons and Glencormac. Sarah is on 1901 census with my gt grandfather(her son) Edward, address is Carrigoona commons west, district of Delgany. She's written that she's still married but I can't find George, it's a very common name!!
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I was concentrating on much earlier dates when I checked for Doyles - before 1870 or so.
One of the Doyle headstones I noted mentioned Kilmurry and some later dates - dont know if there's a possible connection with your Doyle ?
a summary of that headstone - Simon Doyle of Sugar Loaf, Kilmurray, died 17 Aug 1899 age 78, wife Mary died 18 Jul 1897 age 56.
update - just realized I misread your reply... your Doyles were from Carrigoona not Kilmurry
Shane
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Unfortunately not, all George's and Edwards and Anthony's in my Doyles:) George and Sarah married 27 June 1881, rumour has it that William Neale wasn't too long burried at the time, who knows!? Don't have death record for either of them as the names are so common it's taking a while to track them down!! George Doyle was originally from the Scalp,dob 14 nov 1842. I know the headstones are quite hard to read in old graveyard so just might not be able to read his one. I did have a look at registry for graves in parish office but info for old graveyard was a bit sparce:)
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I've a similar problem with my Doyles - there's so many of them in Bray parish it gets difficult to tell which family each person belongs to, particularly since most of the records dont list an address. My Sarah Doyle's mother is named is Mary Byrne, so just as difficult as the Doyle.
As far as I remember Bray parish records, which covered Kilmacanogue, dont include any death/burials.
S.
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Byrne is a real Wicklow name so good luck with that:) I know it's nice to name your children after your grandparents etc but not easy on your future generations!! I have similar problem with Dwyers in Tipp, all named Mary or Michael or John...impossible to track them down without a detailed family history:) Thanks for looking anyway!! Offer still stands to help in old graveyard! I find that kind of stuff fascinating.
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JAD
I have just been reading tonight's chat about Kilmacanogue. I hope to get to do some more work on the old Kilmacanogue cemetery during the months ahead - just waiting for some decent weather. We need sunshine early in the day in order to get decent photos. The photos/inscriptions I have recorded to date are on IGP Archives
If you want to send me some details re how to contact you etc. I will keep a note of it.
Do you know when the cemetery is open, or how to get the key?
Joyce
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Hi Joyce, Key is kept in parish office but graveyard does be open some Sunday's and for blessing of the graves in August. The first church on the site dates to the 6th century so it's well established!! Kilmacanogue used to be bigger than Bray but when the famine arrived people moved to Bray because there was a better supply of food. It's the oldest church in the area as far as I know, next to glendalough of course!!
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The day I happened to find it open was shortly before a blessing was to take place. I have been meaning to return ever since. Hopefully in the not too distant further.
Thanks for the information re the key.
Joyce
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I am looking for a grave for ancestors from Bray - possibly Kilmacanogue old graveyard - buried late 1800's.
James Mc Dermott
Anna Mc Dermott (nee Carroll)
Can anyone help?
Ann Mara
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Any relation to Eugene Carroll? Originally from bray but lived with his daughter on carrigoona commons
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I've no idea - I am researching her daughter, my great, great, Grandmother. All I know is that she married James McDermott. I cannot find any other information about either of them, except for the fact that they lived in Bray and had their children there - Jane and Susan (I don't know about any other children). I am currently looking for her grave, and that of james McDermott to see if I can find out any other information.
Can you tell me more about Eugene? Did he have a daughter named Anna?
Thanks,
Ann.
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In Brian Cantwell's Memorials of the Dead there is mention of an Anne McDermott of Bray who erected a headstone in memory of her mother Elenor Collins, died 1857, and her husband (name not on headstone) died 1882 aged 87. No other mention of McDermotts at Kilmacanogue Old Cem. but of course that doesn't mean that others aren't buried there
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Thank you so very much for looking into that for me - it is much appreciated.
Thank you for taking the time.
Ann.
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Sorry for delay, just busy busy this week! Dont know much about Eugene Carroll, I'm trying to find out more about him myself. He was married to Joanne Smith, his daughter Sarah is my line, she was married to William Neill and they lived on Carrigoona Commons/Glencormick but she married my gt gt grandfather,George Doyle in 1881. I cant find him anywhere either if anyone has any ideas? Good luck with your search!
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Hello,
I have been searching for the burial place of my Great Great Grandfather Christopher Doyle and I found this link while searching online - http://www.from-ireland.net/kilmacanogue-old-graveyard-records-wicklow/. Christopher was born and raised in Bray and his family were living in Glen of the Dawns, Bray up until the late 1890's and then for reason unknown they moved and he was living in Dublin on Charlemont Street up until 1913, I think he died sometime around 1915. I would be very interested in contacting the person who has the old graveyard records to find if the Christopher listed is the same man as my Great Great Grandfather. Does anyone know who to contact? I have ancestors with Surname Flynn and Byrne also from the Bray area so I have visited the old graveyard before but no matching headstones for any of my ancestors were found. This link is the first evidence I have that a Christopher Doyle is buried in the graveyard I would like to find out more if possible.
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I don't think there are any surviving records from the old graveyard, as far as I know they were destroyed/lost. You can contact parish office Mon, wed or Fri and maybe they'd be able to help.
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Hello,
If there are no records still available then where did all the information on this list come from?
http://www.from-ireland.net/kilmacanogue-old-graveyard-records-wicklow/
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Hello,
If there are no records still available then where did all the information on this list come from?
http://www.from-ireland.net/kilmacanogue-old-graveyard-records-wicklow/
Think this might be the best person to ask
http://www.from-ireland.net/contact/
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not made very clear on that site, but this list appears to be based on headstone transcripts. List of names looks similar to Cantwells work
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Hello,
I have visited both the old and the new cemetery and I could not find a headstone that matches the names of my ancestors. However today I found my Great Great Grandmother's funeral notice in the Irish newspaper archives - see below. Now that I am certain she was buried there on Tuesday February 9th, 1937 - how I can find what plot she is buried in? or even if she is buried in the old or the new graveyard? Its most likely that My Great Great Grandfather Christopher Doyle and lots of other relatives are buried in the plot also - I just need to find the family plot!
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as far as I know Cantwell only surveyed the Old Cemetery - a burial in the 1930s was probably in the new cemetery. A Christoper Doyle is mentioned on his list who died 1827, and at the time Cantwell read the headstone in the 1980s was barely legible
There are transcripts of the headstones for the new cemetery on the Irish Genealogy Projects website