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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Stirlingshire => Topic started by: Mollydog on Wednesday 11 May 05 07:36 BST (UK)
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John Menzies (Coal Miner) was killed on 11 November 1902. I am trying to ascertain the name of the coal mine he was killed in and circumstances surrounding the accident. All I know at this stage is that he was found dead at the 4th Pull No. 5 Pit West Longrigg. I have searched the Durham Mining Museum, but they only seem to list the names of those killed in mining accidents where 5 or more people were killed. Can anybody help.
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Hi Mollydog,
Try searching on Google for West Longrigg Pit, Stirlingshire.
You'll get tons of sites but you might have to do a lot of reading to find who you're looking for.
Good Luck!
Anne
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Many thanks Anne for your reply. I am new at this. I will try what you suggested.
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Hello, hope your search was fruitful.
Just beginning to search my wife's lines in Scotland.
Have you ever noticed a Janet Minzies who married a John Leckie in the area of Campsie . Not sure of year but one of her children was born 1805.
Any help appreciated.
Sam Wehunt
USA
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Sorry WehuntSam, haven't come across any Janets in that era so far. Happy hunting!
Regards
Mollydog
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Hi WehuntSam,
I hope you find Sam!!!
I found the following for you on the British Vital Records:
LECKIE, Alexander
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 18 Oct 1795
Recorded in: Campsie, Stirlingshire, Scotland
Father: John LECKIE
Mother: Janet MINZIES
Source: FHL Film 1041973 Dates: 1730 – 1820
LECKIE, Alexander
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 28 Apr 1797
Recorded in: Campsie, Stirlingshire, Scotland
Father: John LECKIE
Mother: Janet MINZIES
Source: FHL Film 1041973 Dates: 1730 – 1820
LECKIE, Cathrine
Gender: Female
Christening Date: 16 Apr 1799
Recorded in: Campsie, Stirlingshire, Scotland
Father: John LECKIE
Mother: Janet MENZIES
Source: FHL Film 1041973 Dates: 1798 – 1800
LECKIE, John
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 11 Jun 1801
Recorded in: Campsie, Stirlingshire, Scotland
Father: John LECKIE
Mother: Janet MINZIES
Source: FHL Film 1041973 Dates: 1730 – 1820
LECKIE, James
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 29 Dec 1805
Recorded in: Campsie, Stirlingshire, Scotland
Father: John LECKIE
Mother: Janet MENZIES
Source: FHL Film 1041973 Dates: 1805 – 1805
LECKIE, William
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 1 Oct 1808
Christening Date: 2 Oct 1808
Recorded in: Campsie, Stirlingshire, Scotland
Father: John LECKIE
Mother: Janet MINZIES
Source: FHL Film 1041973 Dates: 1730 – 1820
LECKIE, Helen
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 29 Jan 1812
Christening Date: 9 Feb 1812
Recorded in: Campsie, Stirlingshire, Scotland
Father: John LECKIE
Mother: Janet MINZIES
Source: FHL Film 1041973 Dates: 1809 – 1855
LECKIE, Elizabeth
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 6 Jun 1814
Christening Date: 12 Jun 1814
Recorded in: Campsie, Stirlingshire, Scotland
Father: John LECKIE
Mother: Janet MENZIES
Source: FHL Film 1041973 Dates: 1809 – 1855
John and Janet would probably have married in 1794 although I can't find a marriage for them in Campsie or in Stirlingshire.
Hope this helps.
Anne
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Hi
Janet Menzies was married to John Leckie a grocer originally from Gargunnock and who settled in Lennoxtown. John died in 1855 and Janet in 1854 aged 84. Their daughter Janet died aged 78 in November 1881. All three are buried in Lennoxtown. Their son William became a farmer in Gooseholm and married Marjory Stevenson in 1840 in Dumbarton. They had 8 children, all of whom were born in Dumbarton.
John's parents were Alexander Leckie and Helen Keir who married in Balfron 5/12/1767. If you have any information on Alexander and who his parents & siblings were, I'd love to hear from you.
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Hi Mollydog,
I know this is an old post and completed, but I would be interested in what you have found concerning John Menzies death.
My wife is a direct descendant (MS Menzies) and has the family bible detailing the entire family, his parents including of course John's demise.
We have all of the published information concerning his death and of course his brother Richard's death in almost identical circumstances many years earlier.
This family had a great deal of tragedy and many other siblings died very young.
Please let me know if you have any info and of course I will reciprocate.
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Hi, thanks for your post.
My grandmother was the daughter of John Menzies. You mentioned that your wife is a direct descendant of "MS Menzies". Who is "MS Menzies" and where does he/she fit in to the family?
Regards
Mollydog
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Hi Mollydog,
My wife's maiden surname is Menzies and her grandfather was Thomas Warden Menzies (John's younger brother). Their father John Menzies snr, was married twice ( 1st to Marion Lumsden and later to Isabella Warden and between them had a total of 17 children.
Female siblings were Mary, Rachel, Margaret, Marion* and Jane*. Perhaps your Grandmother was one of these sisters. They were all half sisters to Thomas and full sisters to John jnr.
* died in infancy
Hope this helps a little and should you need any further info please let me know.
Regards
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i know this post is completed but don't know if you ever found the details of john death if not here it is
1902 November 11
West Longrigg Lanark Darngavil Coal Co Ltd
John Menzies 35 Miner
Falls of roof
Deceased was setting some breaking props at a longwall roadhead while his brother was boring a machine hole for a brushing shot. A stone, 3 feet 11 inches by 1 foot 7 inches by 2 feet 1 inch which it was intended to blast down, suddenly fell from between two parallel and nearly vertical joints, and killed deceased instantly.
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Thanks for the info. Its the same as I have and it is more tragic when you find out that his brother Richard was killed in almost identical circumstances!
Richard Menzies 30 April 1863 - 21 June 1897
Killed by a fall of stone spinal column fractured in lumber region with internal injuries.
1897 June 21 North Motherwell No 1 Lanark Merry & Cunninghame Ltd Richard Menzies Miner 43 Fall of roof at working face.
23 June 1897 Newspaper:
Miner Killed - A miner named Richard Menzies met his death in No. 1 pit. North Motherwell colliery yesterday. While in the main coal seam a large stone, weighing over three tons, fell from the roof and crushed him to death. He was thirty-four years of age, and resided in the New Logans. He leaves a widow and family. [Scotsman 24 June 1897]
The real tragedy is that Richard's father John Menzies snr outlived serveral of his children and died in 1913 aged 77.