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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Waterford => Topic started by: RosemaryJoan on Sunday 01 January 12 14:33 GMT (UK)
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Can anyone help find this person? Richard Bannister, father William born around 1847 in Waterford. His birth in Waterford is given in the 1881 and 1911 British census. We can find very few Bannisters in Waterford and wonder if anyone can help us.
RosemaryJoan
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Richard's birth is before the start of civil records so you will need to check for parish records. Do you have any idea which part of county Waterford your Bannister family came from ?
(presuming that birth year should read 1847, rather than 1947..)
Shane
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Sorry- slip of the finger! I have found a baptism for an Ellen Bannister, father William, mother
Mary Kelly in Portlaw District, Waterford - the only baptism I can find!!
RosemaryJoan
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I presume you found that on RootsIreland ?
they only have RC baptisms at the moment, so wouldn't have any details if your Bannisters were some other denomination.
What's William's occupation on the marriage cert for Richard ?
Shane
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William was an 'overseer of winders', which we believe would have been in a spinning mill, but I can't think of any spinning mills other than in Belfast, Lisburn etc.
RosemaryJoan
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I'm sure there were other Spinning Mills around Ireland - I know Greenmount Mills in Harolds Cross here in South Dublin were operation in 1846. Here's their entry from Slaters 1846
Greenmount Spinning Company, cotton spinners
and manufacturers by power, Harold's Cross;
office and dye works Green villa, Love lane, Cork st
Shane
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The parish and town you mentioned of Portlaw is on the River Suir, so I checked the description for the town in Slaters - part of the entry could provide a clue...sounds like a substantial operation :
... change originated in the establishment of the extensive cotton factory of Messrs. Malcomson Brothers....The process embraces the preparation of the raw material, and finishing the fabric complete for use. The number of hands employed is about thirteen hundred, and all the machinery used is made on the premises. A canal has been cut by the spirited proprietor of these works from hence to the river Suir...
see : page 107 (http://www.failteromhat.com/slater/0107.pdf)
Shane
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Just found this - a Spinning Mill in Portlaw in the right era!
http://www.portlawns.com/Pages/history_of_portlaw.htm#The Portlaw Spinning Co.
so this may take us a step in the right direction, though I don't know where we can find Richard's birth. Reading the history - it looks as if the family may have moved to Lancashire because of the failure of the mill.
This is where Richard turns up in 1877.
RosemaryJoan
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what denomination were your Bannister family ?
Shane
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Richard married in a Catholic Church in 1877. The baptism which I bought fromRootsIreland didn't give a denomination.
RosemaryJoan
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They only have RC baptism records for Co. Waterford, so it has to have been RC. The transcription should show the parish and denomination. RC baptism records for Portlaw go back to 1809.
The Civil/Church of Ireland parish for Portlaw is Clonegam, and records go back to 1845.
Shane
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I will take it that it is an R.C. record. However, this is what it says:
Name: Ellen Bannister Date of Baptism/Birth: 01 May 1854
Addesss not given Parish/District PORTLAW
Gender not given County: Waterford
Denomination: not given
Father: William Bannister Mother: Mary Kelly
Occupation: not given
sponsor 1 Lucy Ruystow
nothing else.
RosemaryJoan
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Hooray! We have found William Barrister (!!) living inCoolroe, Green Island in Griffiths. Now, the next question is - Are there Valuation Manuscript Books, so called 'cancelled books' for Co. Waterford? These were kept up to c. 1930 in Co. Armagh.
Hopeful.
RosemaryJoan
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they should be in the Valuation Office - Irish Life Centre, Dublin 1
Shane
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Hooray! We have found William Barrister (!!) living inCoolroe, Green Island in Griffiths.
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that's a good find... the cottages, nearly 60 of them, at Green Island seem to be for people working in the mill. The landlord for them is the family that ran the mill.
Shane
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Thanks ShaneW. Will keep this in mind.
RosemaryJoan :)
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Mary Bannister died 2nd October 1873 aged 65 , factory operative. district Portlaw, informant Ellen Bannister.
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Thanks for Mary's death. She was one of the ones we were looking for. Any sign of William's death? (her husband)
RosemaryJoan
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Your very welcome, no information on his death sorry.