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Title: Bannister in Waterford
Post by: RosemaryJoan on Sunday 01 January 12 14:33 GMT (UK)
Can anyone help find this person?  Richard Bannister, father William born around 1847 in Waterford.  His birth in Waterford is given in the 1881 and 1911 British census.  We can find very few Bannisters in Waterford and wonder if anyone can help us.
RosemaryJoan
Title: Re: Bannister in Waterford
Post by: shanew147 on Sunday 01 January 12 14:40 GMT (UK)
Richard's birth is before the start of civil records so you will need to check for parish records. Do you have any idea which part of county Waterford your Bannister family came from ?

(presuming that birth year should read 1847, rather than 1947..)


Shane
Title: Re: Bannister in Waterford
Post by: RosemaryJoan on Sunday 01 January 12 14:45 GMT (UK)
Sorry- slip of the finger!  I have found a baptism for an Ellen Bannister, father William, mother
Mary  Kelly in Portlaw District, Waterford - the only baptism I can find!!
RosemaryJoan
Title: Re: Bannister in Waterford
Post by: shanew147 on Sunday 01 January 12 14:47 GMT (UK)
I presume you found that on RootsIreland ?

they only have RC baptisms at the moment, so wouldn't have any details if your Bannisters were some other denomination.

What's William's occupation on the marriage cert for Richard ?


Shane
Title: Re: Bannister in Waterford
Post by: RosemaryJoan on Sunday 01 January 12 15:27 GMT (UK)
William was an 'overseer of winders', which we believe would have been in a spinning mill, but I can't think of any spinning mills other than in Belfast, Lisburn etc.
RosemaryJoan
Title: Re: Bannister in Waterford
Post by: shanew147 on Sunday 01 January 12 15:34 GMT (UK)
I'm sure there were other Spinning Mills around Ireland - I know Greenmount Mills in Harolds Cross here in South Dublin were operation in 1846. Here's their entry from Slaters 1846

  Greenmount Spinning Company, cotton spinners
  and manufacturers by power, Harold's Cross;
  office and dye works Green villa, Love lane, Cork st

 

Shane
Title: Re: Bannister in Waterford
Post by: shanew147 on Sunday 01 January 12 15:42 GMT (UK)
The parish and town you mentioned of Portlaw is on the River Suir, so I checked the description for the town in Slaters - part of the entry could provide a clue...sounds like a substantial operation :

... change originated in the establishment of the extensive cotton factory of Messrs. Malcomson Brothers....The process embraces the preparation of the raw material, and finishing the fabric complete for use. The number of hands employed is about thirteen hundred, and all the machinery used is made on the premises. A canal has been cut by the spirited proprietor of these works from hence to the river Suir...

see : page 107 (http://www.failteromhat.com/slater/0107.pdf)


Shane
Title: Re: Bannister in Waterford
Post by: RosemaryJoan on Sunday 01 January 12 15:45 GMT (UK)
Just found this - a Spinning Mill in Portlaw in the right era!

http://www.portlawns.com/Pages/history_of_portlaw.htm#The Portlaw Spinning Co.

so this may take us a step in the right direction, though I don't know where we can find Richard's birth.  Reading the history - it looks as if the family may have moved to Lancashire because of the failure of the mill.
This is where Richard turns up in 1877.
RosemaryJoan
Title: Re: Bannister in Waterford
Post by: shanew147 on Sunday 01 January 12 15:54 GMT (UK)
what denomination were your Bannister family ?



Shane
Title: Re: Bannister in Waterford
Post by: RosemaryJoan on Sunday 01 January 12 16:13 GMT (UK)
Richard married in a Catholic Church in 1877.  The baptism which I bought fromRootsIreland didn't give a denomination.
RosemaryJoan
Title: Re: Bannister in Waterford
Post by: shanew147 on Sunday 01 January 12 16:15 GMT (UK)
They only have RC baptism records for Co. Waterford, so it has to have been RC. The transcription should show the parish and denomination. RC baptism records for Portlaw go back to 1809.

The Civil/Church of Ireland parish for Portlaw is Clonegam, and records go back to 1845.


Shane
Title: Re: Bannister in Waterford
Post by: RosemaryJoan on Sunday 01 January 12 17:53 GMT (UK)
I will take it that it is an R.C. record.  However, this is what it says:

Name:  Ellen Bannister  Date of Baptism/Birth:  01 May 1854
Addesss   not given                    Parish/District  PORTLAW
Gender  not given                       County:  Waterford
                                                    Denomination:  not given
Father:  William Bannister            Mother:  Mary Kelly
Occupation:  not given
sponsor 1  Lucy Ruystow
nothing else.


RosemaryJoan
Title: Re: Bannister in Waterford
Post by: RosemaryJoan on Monday 02 January 12 12:11 GMT (UK)
Hooray!  We have found William Barrister (!!) living inCoolroe, Green Island in Griffiths.  Now, the next question is -  Are there Valuation Manuscript Books, so called 'cancelled books' for Co. Waterford?  These were kept up to c. 1930 in Co. Armagh.
Hopeful.
RosemaryJoan 
Title: Re: Bannister in Waterford
Post by: shanew147 on Monday 02 January 12 12:21 GMT (UK)
they should be in the Valuation Office - Irish Life Centre, Dublin 1



Shane
Title: Re: Bannister in Waterford
Post by: shanew147 on Monday 02 January 12 13:13 GMT (UK)
Hooray!  We have found William Barrister (!!) living inCoolroe, Green Island in Griffiths. 
....

that's a good find... the cottages, nearly 60 of them, at Green Island seem to be for people working in the mill. The landlord for them is the family that ran the mill.



Shane
Title: Re: Bannister in Waterford
Post by: RosemaryJoan on Monday 02 January 12 13:14 GMT (UK)
Thanks ShaneW.  Will keep this in mind.
RosemaryJoan :)
Title: Re: Bannister in Waterford
Post by: vasaborg on Monday 30 December 13 11:58 GMT (UK)
Mary Bannister died 2nd October 1873 aged 65 , factory operative. district Portlaw, informant Ellen Bannister.
Title: Re: Bannister in Waterford
Post by: RosemaryJoan on Monday 30 December 13 13:45 GMT (UK)
Thanks for Mary's death.  She was one of the ones we were looking for.  Any sign of William's death?  (her husband)
RosemaryJoan
Title: Re: Bannister in Waterford
Post by: vasaborg on Monday 30 December 13 15:49 GMT (UK)
Your very welcome, no information on his death sorry.