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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Norfolk => Topic started by: FindingAncestors on Friday 13 January 12 03:27 GMT (UK)
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Hello
Hoping someone can help -
At the Norfolk Parish Registers database at
Family search dot org - which Parish would I
search for HEIGHAM baptismal records? There doesn't
appear to be a HEIGHAM parish listed - although there is
one called Potter-Heigham --
FreeReg have some marriages from HEIGHAM,
and I have found the marriage of Griffin LAWS
to Sarah HEARN 1797 at Heigham, grooms
abode is given as Heigham - most of their
children's baptisms were registered at East Winch
but I have been unable so far to find a baptism for
Griffin LAWS (in any parish) his birth would be circa 1771, going by his burial details
at East Winch parish registers, his age at death in 1832 was given as 61 yrs -
I very much prefer to 'see' the original if possible so I can bypass the transcriptions
which understandably are not always correct - I am only able to search online as I live
in Australia -
Hoping some one can point me in right direction
Many thanks
FA
(Char)
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Hello Char,
The Family Search site does have the Archdeacons Transcripts for Heigham for the dates you're looking at - http://www.rootschat.com/links/0jof/
I did have a quick look but couldn't find your Griffin Laws baptism - his marriage is on image no. 125.
Yorkslass
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Hello Char,
The Family Search site does have the Archdeacons Transcripts for Heigham for the dates you're looking at - http://www.rootschat.com/links/0jof/
I did have a quick look but couldn't find your Griffin Laws baptism - his marriage is on image no. 125.
Yorkslass
Thank you Yorklass !! I didn't look at the Archdeacon's Transcripts !! Perhaps I will find some else that relates - thank you again
FA
(Char)
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Hoping I'm not throwing a spanner in the works, but I'm also researching HEARNE (variant spellings) in Norfolk.
From census info, I am concentrating on North Repps (red herring, I think), Southrepps (looking promising, actually), and Thorpe Market. I believe they are about 20 miles from Heigham. There are plenty of HERN/HURN/HEARN/etc., in the area.
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Hi
I have probably come much too late to this, but St Bartholomews Heigham where Griffin Laws married is a parish just on the western side of Norwich. Griffin's birth can be found in Little Dunham, Norfolk, where he appears baptised on 24/7/1773 as Greffen, the illegitimate son of Greffen (Griffin) Hoy and Mary Lors (Lawes).
Grey Jet
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Here's another on FamilySearch showing him born c1785 East Winch,Norfolk. Married to Sarah Hearn born 1786, Heigham, Norfolk. they had 9 children.
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Hi
I have probably come much too late to this, but St Bartholomews Heigham where Griffin Laws married is a parish just on the western side of Norwich. Griffin's birth can be found in Little Dunham, Norfolk, where he appears baptised on 24/7/1773 as Greffen, the illegitimate son of Greffen (Griffin) Hoy and Mary Lors (Lawes).
Grey Jet
Hello Grey Jet ! Well well well - That's brilliant ! Thank you ! I wonder if it's himself ?? I guess I'll have to strain my eyes again with those transcripts lol -
Many thanks Grey Jet - I'll get onto that asap :)
FA
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EDWARD and ELIZABETH Hoy Baptised a Son Edward, 6 Nov 1772, St Margaret. Little Dunham.
Edward Jnr seems to have Bapt Children there also under HEY
(Griiffens Hoys 1773 Baptism is there also)
(Source FreeREG)
Edward Snr may be a Sibling of Griffen Hoy.
Also maybe possible Mother?
Baptisms same Church;
ROSE Miller 16 July 1784
PETER and PAUL Miller (Twins) 14 Oct 1785, buried 18/23 Oct.
MARY Miller 9 March 1788
ROSE Miller 2 Aug 1790
Parents JOHN/MARY Miller, Mother nee LAWS***
Fathers Occp Labourer
(FreeREG)
Cant find a Baptism but JOHN Miller age 10 was buried 7 July 1791, Son of JOHN/MARY
Notes;
John Miller Jnr' ' Late Mary Lawes* Spinster
(FreeREG)
Also as Griffen Hoy seems a unusual name this may be related;
Burial;
Griffin HOY
age: 36
birth: 1783
death: Suffolk, England
burial: 16 May 1819
(F/S.Org)
Marriage;
Griffin HOY to Ursula CRONSHEY, 18 May 1812, St. James, Bury St. Edmunds, Suffolk
(F/S.Org)
Children;
MARY ANN Hoy 16 April 1813
SARAH Hoy 30 June 1815
CHARLES DAVY CHRISTMAS Hoy 31 Dec 1817
(F/S.Org)
May be a Son of Griffen?.
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Looks very possible that Mary is Griffins Mother;
Marriage;
26 December 1774, St Margaret, Little Dunham
John MILLER to Mary LAWS
(FreeREG)
Other Children Little Dunham to JOHN/MAY Miller;
JOHN 16 Nov 1775 (must have died)
ROBERT 18 April 1779
JOHN 22 April 1781 (fits with burial 1791)
(FreeREG)
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Hello
The following may be of interest.
Just up the road from Little Dunham in the parish of Saham Toney a marriage was recorded for a Richard Hoy and Sarah Griffin in 1748. (Sarah Griffin was also baptised at Saham Toney.) So far I have only found four children for Richard Hoy and his wife Sarah and no Griffin Hoy but there is rather a big gap between the marriage and the baptism of first known child in 1755 and between the first child and the second child.
Sarah Hoy 1755 - died 1758
William Matthew Hoy 1761
Sarah Hoy 1763 - died 1763
Joseph Hoy 1766 - died 1769
Mary Laws/Lawes later Mary, wife of John Miller, had nine children after her marriage and was buried in Little Dunham on the 19th Oct. 1842 aged 93. It is possible an extra year or two may have accidently been added to her age over the years. Also at Saham Toney is a possible baptism for Mary, 7th June 1752 Mary daughter of John and Frances Lawes. John and Frances also had:
Philip Laws 1742
Philip Laws 1743
Elizabeth Laws 1745
Thomas Laws 1748 - died 1748
Thomas Lawes 1749
Robert, a son of John and Mary Miller, married Elizabeth Wright, a relative of mine.
:)
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From the parish registers of Mendlesham in Suffolk transcribed on Freereg:
Griffin Hoy buried 6th Nov 1781 (no more details)
Griffin Hoy baptised 27th Jan 1782, son of Richard Hoy and Sarah. It must a different Richard and Sarah to the one in the post above. This Griffin Hoy fits the one Trish found in Suffolk.
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A bit more information on the Saham Toney Richard Hoy and wife Sarah:
Sarah Hoy was buried 13th Jan 1773 at Saham Toney.
Richard Hoy witnessed a marriage of Robert Knopwood and Elizabeth Bacon 29 June 1772 and a marriage of Thomas Platfoot and Rose Hill 9th July 1773, both at S. T.
On the 23rd August 1773 Richard Hoy, widower, married Rose Hill, a widow at S. T.
Richard Hoy was buried 2nd April 1786 at S. T. Some details were also recorded. He was aged 60 years and son of Richard Hoy and Martha his wife. Martha was formerly Martha Cock.
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Thank you Poppy Rose and others. I had seen the Sarah Griffin and Richard Hoy entry and I also thought it likely this was the origin of the name for Griffin Hoy but couldn't be sure although no other option presents at the moment.
I was taking a different tack for Mary Lors (Miller) though, looking at Necton where Mary Lawes was baptised on 10/12/1752 to Clement and Rose Lawes.
However this family also seems connected to Saham Toney as Clement Lawes and Mary Wright married there on 2/2/1725.
Clement and Rose Lawes' children were Mary, Robert, Ann, John, Rose and Sarah.
Griffin Laws used the names John, Mary and Rose for his children, as well as Sarah, which fit this theory, but he also used Frances which would match the Saham Toney entry!
Griffin Laws' grand daughter, Lydia Laws, illegitimate child of his daughter Sarah Laws, married Abraham Cutler in West Winch in 1857 and migrated to Australia in 1868 having ten children. (my connection).
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The 1752 Mary, daughter of Clement Lawes and Rose, does look the better option and would explain the use of the name Rose among the Miller children.
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Hoping I'm not throwing a spanner in the works, but I'm also researching HEARNE (variant spellings) in Norfolk.
From census info, I am concentrating on North Repps (red herring, I think), Southrepps (looking promising, actually), and Thorpe Market. I believe they are about 20 miles from Heigham. There are plenty of HERN/HURN/HEARN/etc., in the area.
Hello sdbadger !
How did you go with your searching re HEARNE ? I'm wondering if my Sarah HEARN relates to your HEARNE family ?? It isn't a really common name, and to see it in the same county, and possible same areas, is a bit of coincidence, don't you think ?
We don't have much on Sarah except the record of her marriage and the births of her children, and her death - No baptism, no parents - so far - Unless someone out already has the info and hasn't bothered passing it on to other LAWS/HEARN researchers
I have recently done an Ancestry DNA test - I'm hoping others researching similar surnames have also participated and have their results on the site
Cheers :)
FA
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Hi - re Sarah Hearne
There was a Sarah Herne born in Pentney, Norfolk, to Richard Hurn and Mary Harper in 1772. Pentney is close to East Winch where Griffin laws and Sarah Hearne raised their family although records show this couple married in Heigham.
There is another connection to Pentney as Griffin Hoy, probably Griffin Laws father, was apprenticed there to a Cooper in 1771.
Regards
GJ
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my family codling, valentine, hammond married into Griffin law g
family. love to know more, jan