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Title: CADWALLADER - WALLET
Post by: stunock on Sunday 15 January 12 15:04 GMT (UK)
Hi All,

I am looking for help in finding details around Lot Cadwallader.

I have records from 1841, 51, 61 census - where he appears as Wallett.

A death record from 1865 where he is Cadwallader.

He seems to have been born in about 1817 in Dawley or Old Park, but I cannot find any form of records to verify this.

He married an Elizabeth (which maybe Groome or Hand) again recorded as Cadwallader in 1840.

Lot and Elizabeth seem to have had seven children:

Isaac 1841
George 1842
John 1847
Emma 1849
Martha 1851
Henry 1853
Levi 1857

All the family are recorded as Wallett in all cenusus upto 1891.  In the 1901 all of the male family members and their children appear as Cadwallader.

The family appears to have remained in Dawley / Malinslee / Old Park throughout all of the 1800's.

If anyone can shed any light on the Cadwallader / Wallett name changes or detail around Lot and his parents I would be most grateful.

Thanks

Stuart
Title: Re: CADWALLADER - WALLET
Post by: Mr Gwynne Chadwick on Sunday 15 January 12 15:55 GMT (UK)
Hi,

Welcome to RootsChat.

On a transcript of Wellington All Saints marriages we have;
Lot CADWALLADER, s of Isaac of Ketley Wood, to Elizabeth HAND on 12 Apr 1840.

On a transcript of the Wellington 1821 census, there are these in Ketley Wood, but not necessarily a family group;

Isaac WALLET, age 36, a Collier.
N/K WALLET, 38.
Elinor WALLET, age 11.
James WALLET, age 9.
Mary WALLET, age 7.
Lot WALLET, age 4.
Hannah WALLET, age 1.

Burial on 16 Jan 1848 of Isaac WALLET, age 62.

Regards,
Gwynne
http://www.rafbridgnorth.org.uk
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Title: Re: CADWALLADER - WALLET
Post by: Gadget on Sunday 15 January 12 16:37 GMT (UK)
Hi Stuart :)

This seems to tie in with the info that  Gwynne has given:

Marriage, 26th Dec 1808, Wellington

Isaac Wallett and Sarah Dorsett
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/NKH2-CYW

Baptism, Eaton-Constantine

14 July 1782, Sarah Dorsett
Parents - Francis Dorsett and Mary
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/N537-PZZ


Not found a Cadwallader link yet though  :-\


gnu
Title: Re: CADWALLADER - WALLET
Post by: Gadget on Sunday 15 January 12 16:46 GMT (UK)
Maybe another generation back:

Baptism, Little Wenlock
23 June 1786
Isaac Wallett
Parents - Issac Wallett and Mary
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/NYPL-488

Marriage, Dawley Magna

15 may 1779
Isaac Wallett and Mary Dunning
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/N28G-ZQ2

Still no Cadwallad(e)rs


gnu
Title: Re: CADWALLADER - WALLET
Post by: Sharon01 on Sunday 15 January 12 17:06 GMT (UK)
Hi,

Family search has the following baptism's with parents Lot Cadwallader & Elizabeth in Malinslee, Shropshire

Isaac 1840
George 1842
Thomas 1848
Emily 1849
John Henry 1861

Sharon
Title: Re: CADWALLADER - WALLET
Post by: Mr Gwynne Chadwick on Sunday 15 January 12 17:47 GMT (UK)
Hi,

Any connection to this chap?

From a transcript;
In the 10 March 1819 Shrewsbury Chronicle. John CADWALLADER alias WALLETT, of Wombridge. The accused at a murder trial.
Another record;
In the 26 March 1819 Shrewsbury Chronicle. John CADWALLADER of Wombridge. Manslaughter trial. Killing of Joseph WOOD.
Another record;
In the 26 March 1819 Eddowes Salopian Journal. John CADWALLADER of Coal Pit Bank, Wombridge. Accused of murder.

Gwynne

Title: Re: CADWALLADER - WALLET
Post by: stunock on Sunday 15 January 12 20:31 GMT (UK)
Thanks for the quick responses guys!!!

Gwynne,  as John was tried in 1819 and Lot was born in abt 1817, he could have been an uncle, and I guess the alias pulls together the Wallet and Cadwallader link.  Odd it was never used in the census until 1901 though.
Title: Re: CADWALLADER - WALLET
Post by: Chardonnay on Tuesday 21 February 12 21:44 GMT (UK)
Hi.  The John who was tried in Shropshire for murder in 1817 is presumably a relation (though I haven't been able to determine what relationship) to my 3 x great grandaddy Levi Cadwallender (or Wallet), christened Wombridge in 1782.  John and Levi were both accused together but both found Not Guilty, though reading through newspaper reports of the trial it sounds very suspicious to me!!
Levi's parents were Samuel and Mary but I have no information about them except for their children's christenings.  I don't know where Lot fits into my family tree but I'm sure he'll be there somewhere.  I'd love to be able to add him to my tree if anyone knows where the link is between him and Samuel.   :)
Title: Re: CADWALLADER - WALLET
Post by: stunock on Wednesday 22 February 12 16:53 GMT (UK)
Hi Chardonnay!

Unfortunately, I cannot find any links between us.

If it helps you, my Wallet's became Cadwallader's in around 1850!  I cannot find out why, all I have is a sudden surname change for any children born after 1850 to the same parents.

I'd love to be able to help further, but I think we may be looking at different families - I could help you with some look-ups if you need it.

Stuart
Title: Re: CADWALLADER - WALLET
Post by: ggrocott on Wednesday 22 February 12 20:44 GMT (UK)
I have Lot on my tree.  Son of Isaac Wallett and Sarah Dorsett, grandparents Isaac Wallett and Mary Dunning my link is Proculla Wallet daughter of Isaac Wallett and Mary Dunning. Proculla is Wallett on her baptism and Cadwallett on her marriage.

PROGULA WALLET - International Genealogical Index / BI
Gender: Female Christening: 01 MAR 1789 Wellington, Shropshire, England
daughter of Isaac and Mary Wallett

Groom, Richard Powes Bride's Name: Procula Cadwallett Marriage Date: 29 Jul 1811 Marriage Place: Sedgley, Stafford, England
Title: Re: CADWALLADER - WALLET
Post by: stunock on Wednesday 22 February 12 21:33 GMT (UK)
Thanks for the update.

I haven't got Proculla on my tree at present, but about to add her now.

I'd not seen the Cadwallet name used before though, that opens up a whole new window of research for me...
Title: Re: CADWALLADER - WALLET
Post by: wolliter on Friday 23 February 18 17:34 GMT (UK)

 I have a William cadwalleder married Sarah Luther Shropshire
Thanks karen
Title: Re: CADWALLADER - WALLET
Post by: weste on Monday 26 February 18 15:21 GMT (UK)
it's possible that one of the mary wallets born 1808-1812 approx., may be earlier in Shropshire may be my greatgreatgrandmother. Also my nephew whose mother is from a different line of westwoods to me has cadwallader and at times it changes to cadwallender. I received a 4th cousin dna match for him the other day and it linked him with a cadwallader. I have seen it transcribed in one instance as cadwallater.
jean
Title: Re: CADWALLADER - WALLET
Post by: wolliter on Monday 26 February 18 16:41 GMT (UK)

Hi
I have cadwallader changed to wolliter/waliter /wolliter maybe that was the original name?
Thanks karen